I just read this news in OMGUbuntu and I couldn't help having a contradiction in my thoughts, but I explain why. According the fountain, Canonical is going to develop its own Server for the X, which is named Mir.
Apparently Mir you will have different options than those offered Wayland y Xorg, then according Canonical, they need to have different requirements than these two offer. Mir currently it is only capable of running on top of free graphics drivers, with GDM, DRM and support KMS.
So far that is the information I have, and a question comes to mind Why Ubuntu instead of collaborating and improving Wayland o XorgDo you risk developing your own server for X? Will we be able to use it once it is implemented in the rest of the distributions?
And if I go a little further, yes Unity at the end will be written in Qt / QML on all platforms available for UbuntuWill it still run on Gtk on PC?
Please, if there is someone more knowledgeable on these issues, clarify for me.
In my opinion, it is clear that Canonical wants to make Ubuntu an increasingly differentiated and independent system from the others. And although criticism rains down on me here, step by step it becomes the Apple of the Linux world.
I thought that myself at first .. but I didn't want to put it in the post .. 😀
I understand Elav. But since I have nothing to lose, I say so. Knowingly, I have used Ubuntu for years and collaborated in any way I could. But Canonical is not what it was a short time ago, even more so when Mark made it clear that user opinion was not important.
Ubuntu continues to build the foundation to become a worthy Apple disciple under a single goal $$$$$
As I think no one has answered you, I will: Ubuntu Next will also be used on the desktop, therefore it will not run on GTK on a PC Yuju!… Oops… I missed it ;-).
Yes, exactly, I also don't remember when, but Linus Torvalds also said something like: «Ubuntu would like to be the new Apple»
And little by little they will try to move a little more from GNU / Linux and be more independent, let us not be surprised that they stop relying on Debian or that they "try" to create their own kernel (although this is already too tedious)
I personally don't like ubuntu too much on a philosophical level because it incorporates too much proprietary software (it's just a personal opinion).
Ubuntu is not what it used to be…. I still remember when I started with Ubuntu, which included Gnome 2, it was sweet.
I would also like to talk about, what is for me, the worst of Ubuntu, it is not a technical section, if not social. Ubuntu seems to have become "the distro", "The linux that never fails", "The standard linux" or "the best distro to start with". This makes many people use Ubuntu and just because it is "What people use", I am not saying that Ubuntu is bad, but you have to try several things and stick with what you want, if you eat ice cream for 20 years. Chocolate without trying the vanilla one, I never gave the vanilla one a chance, and maybe he would have liked it better, but he bought the chocolate one, because it was "What people eat."
I've even asked people: "Do you use linux?" and they have responded with a: «No, I use ubuntu». Nothing more to say….
A greeting.
So far I totally agree with you ... Ubuntu is going towards "the path of evil", that's why I've never used it ... it's not bad that they have their way of seeing things, the bad thing is that they don't give you the option to think differently .
I totally agree with you, the path to Linux was taught to me by Ubuntu and I think it has done an excellent job, nowadays many people know about Linux thanks to Ubuntu, although it is not the distro I use today but I think it went to through her I met other distro.
Regards!!
we are the same ... I think most of them started with ubuntu and little by little as knowledge grew we tried other distros until using the current one ... however, since the creation of unity everything went down
Well, I started with Mandriva, and although I had a pleasant season with Ubuntu (between versions 10.04 and 10.10), today my distro is OpenSUSE.
Just what I thought, instead of collaborating on GNU / Linux, try to get away and be associated with it as little as possible, in order to have more public.
Yes. I think a good thing to do would be not to recommend this distro to new users, especially because of what has been said about it being spyware.
Because patching so much gnome, and unity, which is a titanic task, the same thing that should happen with the x server, I personally find the healthy and sensible one, it is not to improve Linux, only its product, avoiding the philosophical straw, it is a natural step ...
And it's very unfortunate, because Ubuntu "sells" the idea of being the flagship of Linux, and the gateway to all that this means.
I do not see anything strange / bad. It is normal, after all they have to optimize ubuntu for Smartphones / tablets.
Ubuntu no longer focuses on the desktop, having that as a basis of thought, the movement of having an optimized and functional graphical server for this type of "gadgets" so lacking in resources, is simply the idea.
Someone to solve this question is known: does Android use X to serve its GUI?
No, it uses SurfaceFlinger (and Ubuntu Touch too).
It is a pity that every time it is distancing itself more from the user and the communities ... I always recommend Ubuntu to start in Linux since it is quite friendly and the information of this community is a lot ... anyway ... in the end I think it will end like SUSE and there will be an Ubuntu maintained by canonical and OpenUbuntu maintained by the community
There is an error in the article. The display server will not be written in Qt / QML, but Qt / QML will support the display server, as will GTK3, and XUL, which implies writing backends for those toolkits. For other toolkits, a traditional X server will be used in rootless mode.
You cannot write a display server in Qt / QML,
Thanks for the clarification .. Now I correct the article.
However, you can write a window composer in Qt / QML, they are doing it and it's called Qt Compositor, and it will be used by KDE instead of Weston. I wonder if maybe Mir will be a modification of Wayland to the taste of Canonical or will they actually write something so complex from scratch and release it just a year from now. The documentation is somewhat extensive and technical so I did not quite understand how the matter is going.
The Qt Compositor is a component of Qt, it is not written in Qt / QML but in C ++, and it is intended for creating composers on top of Wayland because Weston requires client-side decorations rather than server-side, which has no drawbacks.
Anyway, what Canonical is supposedly developing is a display server, and its own composer.
Whoops. I correct myself:
s / which does not have its drawbacks / which has its drawbacks /
Well, what I like is triple XXX
With a single X I am not satisfied: /
There is the Yoyo, he has seen an article with an X and he thought it was talking about porn on Linux xD
Exactly, internet and Linux is for pron 😛
hahahahahaha, fuck it! what a disappointment for voice ...
Is that when you see the global picture, it is clear that Ubuntu has long wanted to be seen as a Linux distribution, and instead wants to become the new Apple: users do not know what they want, we do, the branding above all, I develop my own tools for everything (Unity, UbuntuOne, Ubuntu Phone) but I don't make it easy for them to be ported to other distributions… ... And I still use its derivatives but it is evident that I prefer what is maintained by the community.
On the question of the article. Why not collaborate with Wayland or Xorg, because according to Canonical the semantics of handling input events is very complex. In other words, it is a protocol design problem. They also mention something about the privileged way Wayland interacts with the system shell.
Anyway, it is a slightly strange announcement; To date Canonical has not hired enough people who are experienced in graphics drivers and other low-level issues to build a display server in the proposed time. I suspect what they want to do is fork SurfaceFlinger, used by Android. In fact, current ubuntu on phones ROMs include this server.
Greetings.
Forget this part:
"They also mention something about the privileged way Wayland interacts with the system shell."
I got confused as it is not the System Shell. It seems that here the Shell is one of the components of the display server. Apparently the parts of the protocol that talk about the interaction with these components are considered privileged.
Needless to say, the arguments as to why you shouldn't collaborate with Wayland (or Xorg) are from Canonical, not mine. In fact, many Xorg and Wayland developers don't share them at all.
It seems to me the worst thing they could do, they are trying to separate Ubuntu from the other distributions by creating their own ecosystem, which is going to cause more useless fragmentation. Ultimately Ubuntu will end up being like Android, which many define as "the linux that is not linux."
Until recently the biggest criticism of Linux was the incredible variety of desktop environments that there were, it is difficult to make applications that work well in each distribution. Now several graphic servers are added; X, Wayland and Mir ... developers will not be able to create applications for those three things, this will cause more fragmentation.
For example, when people started talking about wayland, most video card developers like nvidia said that they were not going to support wayland, that they would continue with X ... if there was a remote possibility that they thought to work with wayland, now they would add to the Ubuntu party with Mir… Ideally, they would have bet on Wayland as they said a few years ago. But hey, it's too early to draw so many conclusions, time will tell.
More or less. Developers do not write applications directly on the graphical server, but rather on Qt, GTK, etc. Thus, a GTK application will work on all display servers that that library supports.
However, I agree that Ubuntu has wanted to differentiate itself from the rest for years. What's more, Ubuntu is the only distro that does not talk about Linux in the press releases, but about the Ubuntu Kernel.
+1
But drivers will not be written for wayland for example. By doing this they are hurting the linux world a lot
Canonical is the "Apple" of the F / LOSS world.
Likewise, you have to give them time and let them develop their products, Ubuntu 12.10 is a very good distro, on par (or better) than 11.10, which was the best version so far.
Do not worry, if NVIDIA and ATI do not adapt the graphics drivers for that server there is nothing to do, which will cost them to adapt for Wayland. But I hope that the manufacturers do not end up designing the drivers for Mir leaving aside Xorg or Wayland and harming all the distros, because we all know that Ubuntu is the most popular.
Linux is just a kernel.
Also, I don't see a problem developing a new project, as long as it is free software and can be used by others.
I really don't see as a problem that the folks at Canonical want to do a single distro, so to speak. After all, it will still be GNU / Linux.
Although I use everything for my work, I put GNU / Linux on top because it is simply better. What is, is that "Linux" is a word that is scary. Some Ubuntu users don't even know what GNU / Linux is. Why? Because like most of the population they only look for things that work for them. They do not care about the rest as long as they "work" (I clarify that that does not mean that I think that most are okay, they are just facts). So Canonical is offering a system that 'works', 'stable' and is 'trustworthy' with a user and business focus. I do not see this wrong because, unfortunately, in the world we live in, some GNU / Linux distribution needs to do something like that. Why? Because always one distribution is based on another, and another is based on that other, and so on. For the end user, it does not matter what it is based on or not based on, but I think that if Ubuntu wants to stand out more they still have to subsist on their own. I'm not talking about "going private," so to speak. That it remains Open Source but that I leave Debian (even if it sounds blasphemous and they ban me from the page), although I find it difficult. Let him grow up, do new things, why not?
For those who criticize so much: remember that the philosophy of Ubuntu Open Source, as well as the much adored Android that, being based on GNU / Linux, never mentions that fact anywhere. The Free Software philosophy is different and even so, you can have Ubuntu only with free software. It is up to the user. Freedom is not imposed because it would not be freedom. I am not against any kind of philosophy ... I also believe in user privacy, which is being lost thanks to social networks. Even more than that, I believe in freedom and its definition.
To finish, I think that the GNU / Linux community has not grown because the same community has not wanted to. For many years, the same people who were the oldest in the community hinted at it. Why wouldn't they want to grow up? That is the question ... and there may be many answers to it, just think. In my opinion, it is time to see some GNU / Linux distribution on the battle line. Which Ubuntu is the best known (by people who don't know about GNU / Linux)? Let him do it. If it had been Debian, it would also crush it, just as it would crush Arch, Gentoo or any other distribution ... unfortunately, it is Ubuntu who is at the forefront and who have taken on the task of, little by little, launching into fight with greats like Apple and Microsoft. As I said, if it were any other GNU / Linux distribution that had been in this position, it would also support it. It is not a preference with Ubuntu, although it is the one I use. I have tried many others that are very good, but as the main distribution I use it out of habit ... and Manjaro. Well bye. I shouldn't have written so much.
Android is adored by whom? Probably by Java programmers who found a new market.
Android (Dalvik) = Java + heavily modified Linux kernel. Java sucks, it's really horrible.
Luckily new mobile operating systems are appearing that do not depend on Java to work =)
Tizen and FirefoxOS which are also Linux, right?
Java was a balloon that they sold to companies, they created a language with a super inflated API and promoted it as impossible to use it wrong, all the managers with ties swallowed it like holy water. And Sun charging for courses to learn how to use the API and fix his tie to make the JVM work better. 😉
Great, even more divisions. What does it cost you to collaborate with Xorg?
They still do not finish with Unity, they just start with cell phones and now this ... I see that soon they will release their own Kernel ....
Because Xorg does not work for mobile. Wayland is more appropriate, but it has some of the X11 design issues.
In a previous comment (# comment-42333) I explain it a little better.
All this according to Canonical of course. The Wayland developers do not share it.
The same XOrg developers are the ones working on Wayland.
This seems very strange to me. On the one hand, Wayland has been doing it for years by people with much more experience in this type of thing than those of Ubuntu. And Canonical is not Intel or Google, it has neither the resources nor the necessary engineers to be doing this kind of thing.
I'm afraid of all this, the things that ubuntu does are usually very difficult to use in other distros (for example unity)
This will damage linux, it has always been difficult to get support for graphics cards, with this it will be even more complicated
It's like I said in a comment above (# comment-42333), it's very weird. But I have a theory that what they are actually doing is a fork of SurfaceFlinger, the Android display server. In the ROMS of Ubuntu on Phones that same server is used.
Each distribution does what it wants as long as it does not interfere with the GNU license, it is up to us whether to "use" or "promote", something that I personally have not done for a long time simply because the design decisions it has made do not like me.
Total that simply if they do not use it they do not have to worry at all.
regards
Yes that worries me, because it affects the support that Nvidia and Ati are going to give Linux
With what they have taken to support x11, I do not think they will rush to support another as fast as you say.
I still do not understand the desperation of some to give root permissions to closed binary executables ... do they want the same spyware system that is in windows? Are you missing him? There you have the free drivers, every day improving, worry not to give root privileges of your machine to companies that already know how they behave with the user.
Honestly, is it so difficult to understand this? Because they don't use windows so they will feel like at home.
I once said on a page that Ubuntu is on its way to becoming a closed system, and if the negatives had been bullets it would already be underground. It is clear that Canonical needs to recover money invested, especially in these times economically worldwide, and I see no other way out than to close the system and start marketing it. That is what Linus meant by "Ubuntu would like to be the new Apple", as @ Francisco_18 reminds us.
regards
For more information, it was in the September 2012 issue of Linux Format magazine, they asked him "Is Ubuntu the new Apple?" and he replied "He would like to be. That is the best answer I can give.
They can't because of the licenses, I don't know when they're going to continue with that.
Exact.
What interested Ubuntu in the community was the free labor. Now all developers are angry with ubuntu that does things without warning anyone
Here is the reaction of some developers to the announcement
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzY
Ubuntu is a tremendous shit looking to get rich by following in the footsteps of mac today Linux mint if it is free if it were not for its java and flash codecs that offers a clean, easy-to-use environment. elegant and fast, also many of us are using other distros because of the egocentric users of ubuntu who believe they are computer gods, really opensuse, it is good and in my opinion one of the best distros.
It's funny that the biggest criticism comes from people who don't use Ubuntu. If you don't use that distro, you don't have to worry, that's what it is about each one using what best suits each one.
These criticisms, in form, do not differ much from those that Unity had in its principles, and now we see it ported to the distro of "simple stupid" among others and you read comments from users who try to make you commune with millstones saying what was shit is not so much anymore because he has a letter of the alphabet or a green bug stuck up his ass.
What Ubuntu does in this case is not so different from what it has been doing for years within the SL, I don't like your path, because I get angry, I take my scatergoris and I set up my own game with those who «suck my po .. ».
It is laughable to see how people tear their clothes because someone does not do what he wants or what he considers correct. It seems that they are aiming at their heads so that you use that thing yes or yes, as if there were no other alternative.
If you think you can contribute something, join the work and work on it, if not the best thing you can do is stop fucking and keep using what you use.
Finally, we must not lose sight of the fact that the objective of Canonical, like RedHat or SuSE to cite 3 palpable examples, is to make money, and they will do it in the way that they believe is best or in the way that best for them. It suits your business model, serving the community is secondary, it's the icing on the cake to say look how good we are and how cool we are. While the user in his fanaticism «distri-mononic», helps him by betatesting in fedora, opensuse or non-lts versions.
there is a difference between the negative reviews unity and the a mir, in the case of mir, the ubuntu decision may affect other distributions regarding the development of drivers and the implementation of the same mir in other distributions
What happens is that those of us who do not use Ubuntu recognize that for better or for worse Ubuntu is our letter of introduction to those who do not know GNU / linux. In general, all Linux users start with that distro
I don't think anyone, including myself, wants Ubuntu to do badly, but many of us have the feeling that Ubuntu is highly overrated and its erratic changes hurt us.
Not in my case it has always been Linux Mint, I have never recommended Ubuntu.
I started with Linux Mint, which although it is based on Ubuntu, but it is better because it is maintained by the community, personally a Cinnamon will always be better than a Unity.
I recently migrated to Chakra but I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed on another partition to test the evolution of the distro on real hardware and the truth is that it works very well.
Just a picture to say regarding
http://xkcd.com/927/
LOL 15 standars ...
I could never test Ubuntu as such, my computer never worked with Ubuntu, since I started with Linux Mint, the truth is I to newbies (Speaking as if I were not XD) I always recommend Linux Mint never Ubuntu, for the reason is that it never worked for me on an XD machine. But I have tried its derivatives, Kubuntu 7.10, Xubuntu 9.04 and Lubuntu (I don't remember which version).
And the truth is, I learned the basics in Linux desde linux mint 5 Elisa with KDE, Ubuntu is no longer Linux, it is just a separate system that uses the same kernel, you know like OpenBSD and Mac Os that use the same kernel but nothing to do with Juana. XD.
How about community.
I made up my mind not to get into controversy when this topic was brought up, but the truth was I couldn't resist, so I will.
Remember, Cannonical is a $$ company and as such requires income $ o $ to survive. Uncle Mark announced that Ubuntu is still not profitable and therefore has to enter a market niche that can be more profitable $ or $.
I have mentioned many times that there are trends in IT and these point to high mobility, more standardized interfaces, interoperability and above all APPS. Look at iOS, Android, and Windows PHONE. Enter the remove Windows 8 ARM / PC and the next MacOS will follow this line. If we analyze with a cold head, all smartphones or smart phones have an almost identical interface (understand iOS & Android) and even the applications or APPS (most of them) on both platforms. Microsoft got into it with Windows 8 and the truth is walking towards the direction of iOS and Android. In fact Windows 8 is the latest version that will support the traditional desktop and will completely migrate to the iOS / Android style APPS environment. MacOS won't be left behind works on something similar.
Linux is still stuck in the classic desktop and the wide variety of these and the forks, remakes or whatever you want to call them make progress extremely SLOW. The ones that are half saved are GNOME Shell and KDE since the first bet on an interface of the MOBILE type and KDE, due to its great configuration capacity, can make the necessary adjustments.
The great dispersion of LINUX is its great virtue but also its greatest curse and this implies investment of time and resources in duplication of projects that make it even more difficult than this environment of the definitive jump.
EYE, although I am writing this comment from a Windows PC, I am an Arch LINUX user and a GNOME user to die.
Honestly, I do not see bad that canonical does that, the problem is in the reaction that the various graphic card manufacturers will have, will they support so many servers? I don't want to imagine the truth, 100 or 200 are made, in the end the manufacturers will only support one or at most two, the problem is, what will they be?
Well, as a result of this announcement I have noticed that the developers of Wayland have left their caves. I hope this gets you back on track and motivates you to get wayland ready a little faster.
Defenders of freedom, those who say that "more is better" and that "long live diversity" will be happy, right? now there are 3 displays servers, that is, the controllers of our graphics cards will have to support all 3, and that will not be the case, because if we already have problems right now with "only" Xorg ... imagine with all 3.
Apart from the fact that manufacturers will probably opt for Mir, since it will be Ubuntu and it is the distro that most people use.
How beautiful the fragmentation is and how happy those who have always defended it will be.
regards
And you hurt the community by spending your time on what you want instead of improving the kernel and so on. Imagine how fast we would move forward if all Linux users only dedicated themselves to programming! Study medicine? Law? That does not benefit linux. They will be happy ...
What do you say? I can't improve the kernel, I don't know how to program at that level x)
I don't harm anyone, I just defend the community, are you stupid? is that to see if you understand, now there will be 3 graphic servers that manufacturers will have to support, does that benefit you ??? Obviously not, because this is fragment for fragmentation, if you were a little smarter you would have found out that Wayland DOES meet Canonical's requirements, except that they cannot control its development, then what Canonical is looking for is total control, it is usually call a monopoly, although perhaps it is exaggerated in this situation.
They should have helped Wayland, and not create their own, that would be the best for the users, and believe me that if I knew how to program I would help in the Kernel and with great pleasure, in fact if I help because I am a translator of some applications like MiniTube and Amarok ( I translate into Spanish and Catalan, which are my native languages).
So don't say that I hurt anything without being aware of it beforehand.
«How beautiful fragmentation is and how happy those who have always defended it will be.
Cheers"
A jerk comment from someone who is so new to the F / LOSS world that he still can't clean his ass on his own.
For your information, neither ATi nor NVIDIA "supports" the display managers, in fact these are the developers of the free modules (which do magic through reverse engineering) for said boards that strive to support all the features of the same without having any support (or at most in minimal specific cases) from the manufacturers.
Intel is a separate issue because its business is to create a card widely supported by free modules in order to at some point oust its strongest rivals, AMD and NVIDIA.
The "fragmentation" as it is baptized by idiots and Windows users who know little beyond turning on their machine and connecting to Facebook is what makes the F / LOSS community vibrant, thriving and innovative.
In fact, and I keep informing you, the new Google Chrome Pixel is considered much superior in terms of its performance than the 13'3 ″ MacBook Pro Retina and, for you to keep learning, all the software that the Pixel uses is F / LOSS .
You lack a lot of time to use F / LOSS software to be able to give your opinion, you still haven't even taken off your diapers (ergo your opinions and comments are nonsense without objective value).
Wow, dumb copywriter.
You could back up everything you say, with sources and such ... I just don't believe you x)
regards
In this, if we have not advanced, there are still children who even find it difficult to use Google or their favorite search engine.
I have my arguments, if you don't like those I have more.
It is not necessary to be so much drama, in phonorix there are even video using the famous Mir, personally I see it well if Ubuntu wants to do what it does, it does not harm anyone. Ubuntu is like that and it will always be wanted to be different and look for money at the beginning, he said it was to help the community supposedly but that we all know that it was a lie, the community that had broken down from Debian did not allow modifications but all those who took it later they realized that they were not very well as they thought.
Currently Ubuntu I see it with good eyes if they think that Mir will be easier for them less complex than Wayland or X it is fine that there is a possible third option, not everything is bad and the one that users like they will use or even all three as There is gnome kde xfce lxde or other graphical environments so they will feel with graphical servers with X.org Wayland and Mir. Each one is free to choose the option that attacks him if Ubuntu becomes the new apple in the Linux world, well for that reason there will be more variety in the community. The rest we can choose in the number of distributions that exist today.
Most of us will choose the graphics server supported by Intel, AMD or NVIDIA. So it will be the manufacturers who decide.
I also don't get Ubuntu detractor even though it gave me so many headaches that in the end it's easy for me to use Arch (along with chakra my favorite distro) almost a year after my first linux installation (Ubutnu 12.04), so I see it even wonderful for the curious, which mint is not.
And despite this I am also concerned about the drivers, enough is the fact that it was impossible for me to have good performance of my legacy ati in arch (in Ubuntu the difficult thing was to find the correct ppa) so that now the drivers are unique of mir.
One way out that I see the apocalypse of drivers and compatibility is that it has so much similarity to X that drivers with a patch, hack or something similar are functional on either of the two graphics servers.
As an ex-archero (5+ years using Arch for laptops, workstations and servers), brand new Chakra user (still in awe of "Benz") and with a part of his little heart in Ubuntu, since it was the distro that opened the doors for me to GNU + Linux by allowing me to completely abandon XP, I tell you that Ubuntu 12.10.1 is incredible, it does not look like Ubuntu, and from what it seems in 13.04 there are many positive changes that, following the tradition of Ubuntu, I suppose will focus on the 13.10.
Beyond the plans they have for the distro [trolling] and despite being based on Debian [/ trolling], logical plans since it is a private undertaking using resources from the community and in turn giving it back an excellent and free product, Ubuntu is going to rock.
If Ubuntu is what you say (which I do not doubt, it is rhetorical) because it has not penetrated as would be expected with the manufacturers of PCs and other devices.
I know that a lot of new people enter Linux using Ubuntu, but from the above the numbers don't add up to me, taking into account that Ubuntu is Canonical's "business".
little more to add: Ubuntu is the gateway to Linux for most new users, and it seems clear to me that Canonical's strategy is to 'divert', as soon as you enter through that door, to 'your way ', to create a kind of ubuntu-dependency.
I think its objective is similar to the one that Microsoft undertook 25 years ago, to create little less than a monopoly of which it is (as it is now) very difficult to get out, because Word, PowerPoint, and to a lesser extent IE, Outlook, etc, in general Windows ... are standards for example for the business world ... and people (users) have to know them.
You are wrong and the reason is very simple: regardless of the commercial and business strategy that Canonical has and that as you say they try to create their own ecosystem (in this I agree with you because it is totally evident and it is not bad that this way do, Canonical is a company, not the Red Cross), users who only want to use the machine for their daily activities probably do not need much more than what is offered.
On the other hand, those users who hear from the terminal or console and are lit by the curiosity lamp (as happened to many of us) will begin to investigate to see what it is about, to use the terminal more and more, to find out and research and finally it is very possible that when entering the F / LOSS world they discover that other distributions have other ways of understanding the GNU + Linux paradigm and decide to try them, first as a hobby and then perhaps even migrate to other distros looking for their own way.
Some may find that Ubuntu is a development based on another development called Debian want to drink from its sources, others will find that they do not like the way the system is built and will try to try other distros.
In short, I say that you are wrong because neither Ubuntu nor Canonical will be able to "lock up" whoever does not want to be locked up, it is a matter of decision, of being awake and wanting to choose instead of accepting the first thing they put in front of your face , something like 99,9999999% of things left in life.
That common people have the ability to decide on their own is another matter.
According to Kristian Høgsberg, the lead developer of Wayland, Canonical wanted control over the graphics system, which is why not only has it undertaken its own when it said that it was going to support the development of Wayland, but also defamed it accusing it of security problems that they were non-existent; then Canonical retracted and said it had never said what it did.
Here they explain something else (in the language of the evil empire, sorry):
http://www.muktware.com/5341/wayland-incapable-delivering-what-mir-can
Greetings.
Well kwin will not support Mir
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/03/reply-to-all-the-faces-of-ubuntu/
http://ubunlog.com/kwin-no-ofrecera-soporte-para-mir-el-servidor-grafico-de-canonical/