Apparently the guys at Canonical want to cover more market than they are generally looking forward to.
Now we see that he wants to throw high and chop the tablets with the news that an installer has come out "One-click" to install Ubuntu on Nexus 7 of Google. That while it doesn't seem like a bad idea or a bad move to me, I question myself the fact that Canonical is wanting to cover so much.
In theory the installer is used in a simple way and all you need is to have the bootloader unlocked to do this process. Before you ask me, I have not investigated how to do it nor can I tell you why because to be honest I am not interested in installing Ubuntu on a tablet; Canonical mentions that this is just a testing phase and that the system still lacks a lot of things, so it is aimed at people who want to test and flirt with some geek girl for a while and tell her "Look, I have Linux on my tablet", but for everyday use, or even functional, I doubt it will work.
Touching again the statement of wanting to chop more than it can chop, for me Canonical is dispersing the effort too much instead of focusing it on important points and carrying out more complete projects, I say, Ubuntu as a system has its problems, they have the project with Android and they have Unity, which also needs more strength to be printed on it.
In short, the news is not too long or deep, nor do I intend to talk about what Canonical does or does not do.
Well, ubuntu looks cute on a tablet, although we won't have to wait for the final version to give a complete criterion
Those from Canonical ... look that I use Ubuntu but ...
I think Canonical should try harder to consolidate its operating system and make it more stable in its desktop branch. First things first.
It does not make sense to be monopolizing many areas if you are not giving 100% in any of them .. tablets, ubuntu tv, mobiles..pufff.
Tabluntu: - $
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Let Ubuntu Tablet Remix come out.
Hahahahahaha .. I pissed hahahaha So not Tabluntu? Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Question, if Ubuntu is free and free, where is Canonical's profit in all this? Well, I don't think they take as much work for the love of Linux as it happens in other distros. The truth is I don't know where they want to go, or what to think of them.
Interesting question. Not all business models are based on selling their product as such, look at Google, they don't sell you anything, they don't charge you to use the search engine, the search engine (and all its associated free services) come with a peculiarity: they are made to support the google advertising platform.
Canonical does not earn and will not earn anything by selling Ubuntu, because to buy an operating system, I stay with Mac or Windows, they earn with the software center, selling support, working together with manufacturers ... in the case of tablets they can simply earn money being on another platform that allows them to cover more space. It is something very difficult to explain.
My dear nano you hit the spot. The business model used in the * NIX world is different from that used by others and this has greater advantages.
Most companies that support a Linux distribution have their income from support, there are few that also sell any software.
In the case of Ubuntu, in addition to the income from support, it is copying a bit of Apple's business model (especially with the sale of music) and with the commissions that it will charge for purchases on Amazon through its OS.
And outside of Linux that is very common:
Model 1: I sell you the expensive software, but I give you the support at a very low price or for free. (like the one Microsoft follows, for example)
Model 2: I am selling you a support contract for X number of years, but the software is completely free or at a fairly reasonable price. (It is the most common -which does not mean the only one- in free software companies and independent professionals)
Personally I prefer it to be used in Kubuntu Tablets, KDE plasma Active 3 works better than I expected, the truth is, I managed to install Kubuntu for Tablets on a Woo tablet of those sold in Carrefour, well here in Colombia, I don't know if They will sell it in more countries, but let me tell you that it is impeccable, I do not miss KDE and this is a great and very good advance, that's why I say I prefer KDE on tablets, and even suddenly Gnome Shell instead of unity.
I would personally install Tabluntu on my galaxy tab. I have been using CyanogenMod 10 for a while, but unfortunately android does not fully satisfy all my needs on a mobile device. Tabluntu would be a very good option for me, from any point of view, it has millions of customizations available, giving us to choose the ones we want. I'm sorry to see that with every Android that comes out, they continue to use the same old java engine, which all that does is stall development and expansion of the system itself, although it sounds harsh.
Hopefully Canonical do it and do it well, that, despite everything, I do have faith in them, since it was they who brought me closer to Linux (who is the one who feeds me today).
Greetings Friends.
This version they have is for development and testing, so it would not be recommended.
Now, regarding Java, +100000000000000000000000, I support you as you have no idea, but that's what it sells and what people develop (I don't know why there are better languages out there).
So as not to get too long. Do you want Linux on your tablet? It uses Plasma Active, based on KDE and Linux, which is already stable and very well developed.
Wow, it looks good, I would still like to read a well-done tutorial out there, I'm afraid of getting a brick if I do something wrong.
I'm going to try, if it works, I comment.
Greetings and thanks.
I'm curious, what are those languages you mention that are better than Java? because the truth is, I also dislike and despair. I am not a programmer, nor do I know anything about this kind of thing.
Now speaking of environments for tablets I have also read that Enlightenment also has an option for tablets that I actually found when I was testing it a few months ago and although I did not try it I found it somewhat useful in fact I remember having read that a Nokia model I incorporate it into one of its terminals, who has tested it? It would be interesting to know someone's opinion about it, although in the videos that I have seen it works very well.
Before you screw me, I'm in an office and on a borrowed PC, that's why I don't comment. desde Linux.
Better languages than Java? Many. First and foremost, understand that Java is not a compiled language as many believe, NO, not at all. Java is a clearly interpreted language that compiles the interpreter using heavy virtual machines, which makes any large Java application a resource-eating ogre, not to mention that its syntax is simply disgusting.
Now, if what you are looking for is speed in execution I doubt that you will get anything better than C or C ++, unless you are one of those hairy males who dares to program in assembler. If you want to aim more at web programming you have Python and Ruby together with their respective frameworks Django and Ruby on Rails (and many more interesting micro frameworks), or, in the worst case, PHP. For the desktop you can also use Python without problems since it has bindigns for almost everything and as long as you don't need exceptional performance, you can use it, in fact, I would say it can be equated with Java since there are projects that compile Python to ByteCode in very efficient ways and they turn Python a bullet (Cpython I think is one of them).
It is a big world, I recommend you review and learn.
I agree with you, except in your opinion in the worst case PHP, if you see PHP there are techniques that make programmers mediocre, I can tell you that being one of the most used server languages gives it an elk, the truth is that PHP it is a very good language although many methodologies and techniques are disastrous
Ubuntu's foray into tablets was announced since the presentation of Unity, in any case, it is always good to have one more option ...
That such.
I don't like saying this but: "I told you so." For some time now, the Cannonical business model was pointing to one very similar to that used by the apple company (eniendase apple). As already mentioned, the output of unty, the fact that many of google employees use a customized version of ubuntu, the similarity of unity to google plus, the interconnectivity with adroid, the phonobuntu, TVuntu, tablebuntus, etc, etc, etc,. They finish squaring the circle. Microsoft already feels steps on the asotea and is working to do something similar with its wintables and winphones that will be totally closed (just like Apple). Curious no ?.
Ecosystems, and especially mobile devices, are a market niche that is beginning to take shape and determine in a "certain" way tastes and customs. Apple has very good control over this, Microsoft does not want to be eliminated or restricted to very specific environments (understand PC's) and ubuntu, hand in hand with Google, are working to not stay out of business.
KDE with its tablet version and Gnome with its Shell is a sign that mobile devices will be the spearhead in the IT business and PCs relegated to a second term (but they will be an important part of the ecosystem).
Now, Mozilla and HP are working on their WebOS and in fact Mozilla's can be installed on Ubuntu (it is still in evaluation versions), so we have:
At present and in the medium term, the efforts of the major players in the industry are focusing mainly on mobile devices, so that sooner or later the interfaces of these devices will have to focus on a "similar" interface so that the learning curve for average users is minimal and with the maximum possible market penetration.
Not for that reason there are many similarities (eye is not the same as the same) between for example KDE Tablet, Gnome SHELL and Android and if we speculate more, these interfaces will be very similar, not only between them but also on the PC and if they want a An example is Android for PC and a "resemblance" with Gnome Shell and KDE Tablet and the truth is I do not think it is a coincidence (as I have said before, I do not believe in coincidences and more in this business).
I know that what I have commented will mark me as a heretic and profane and like Giordano Bruno, I will be asked to condemn me to the stake. I know that not many will agree with my statements, but in truth before throwing myself into the flames investigate a little and you will see that although it seems crazy and hallucinated what I comment in reality is not so much.
It is not a lie what you say, the only thing I do not agree on is that the pc will be relegated. The thing is, PCs have always offered something that neither phones nor tablets will ever offer: customization and repowering.
Simple example:
I can increase the RAM of my pc, but not of my other devices. PCs do not have programmed obsolescence, perhaps their components, but these are interchangeable and changeable (overclock, etc.), the PC will never cease to be the queen, even though "mobility" is prime, there will always be moments when you just walk around and that's where a PC is a thousand times better.
According to you nano, the "demise" of PCs has been predicted for a long time; It happened when the laptop boom a few years ago and it happens again now with the rise of mobile devices. In my opinion, this is not going to happen because the most important factor that prevents it is the scalability of the PCs, which does not exist in the rest of the devices currently available, nor do I think that in the next appearance. The mere fact of being able to add more disks, graphics cards and / or tuners, memory, etc., will keep them alive within the current ecosystem.
If we pay attention, the "extinction" of some devices is not such, but an "evolution" through "crossing" with other species; for example: PDAs disappeared giving way to smartphones (a cross between PDA and mobile phone).
Under current conditions, and those foreseeable in the short and medium term, the coexistence of all the "species" of this ecosystem will continue, even if its composition changes, since each device responds to specific needs that are not fully satisfied as a whole. for another; see how tablets and ebook-readers coexist, even though we can use the former for the task of the latter.
Making Nostradamus in these times is not so easy, and even less when it comes to issuing death certificates.
And excuse me for the billet ...
No problem Charlie-Brown, in fact I do not consider myself a guru, fortune teller or wizard who, in the style of Harry Potter and the wand, envisions the future.
As an IT consultant, I have the need to investigate and analyze the possible scenario (s) that may arise since these influence in a certain way (indirectly and sometimes directly) the tastes and requirements of many services that some of my clients have to consider. For example, social networks, mobile access, cloud computing, data and application interoperability, etc. These features have to be part of some form of business solutions that seek to take advantage of "fads" or "trends" as novelties and a presumption of the use of cutting edge technologies. This, although it seems laughable, sells and at the end of the day an entrepreneur is what interests him.
Hello jorgemanjarrezlerma, for 9 years (until very recently really), my work was very similar to what you describe, so I think I understand perfectly what you say; What happens is that, in my opinion, the sequence of events would be as follows: advances in IT technologies, with web 2.0, the cloud compluting, etc., give rise to the appearance of new devices (especially devices mobile), which become part of an ecosystem, competing with existing ones in terms of market share, BUT, above all, complementing them. This becomes "trends" and "fashions" (as a social expression but also as a result of market manipulation) on which business solutions are finally assembled, which in the medium term demand and / or generate new advances in technologies IT, and so on ...
My intention in the comment was precisely to emphasize the complementarity of the devices (both existing and new) that does not imply in any way the disappearance of PCs, if you understood it as a direct attack on your comment, it was not that My intention, in any case, will be the market that will deny us and, unfortunately, without the right to reply.
How about Nano.
Although what you say about the PC is true (I also think the same) only that it will have a role to call it "secondary" in the sense that it would be the center of the ecosystem and that mobile phones will allow you to "take it" with you. In fact, some analysts consider that some mobile devices such as "tablet" will be a multiple hardware or in simple words, part of the PC and I put the example of the Acer Iconia which is a laptop with a detachable monitor and that works as a tablet.
Sure, it will never be the same as with a desktop PC that can be put on and taken off, but if you look at it, many of the components are "practically disposable" and have a shorter useful life than it was 10 years ago.
And that's how we lost sight of Ubuntu for desktop ... And he began his journey through the wonderful world of touch screens (^ _ ^)
As soon as the Vivaldi tablets with Plasma Active 4 are obtained, I will see if I can buy one.
Another option is to get some fucking tablet to erase the crap that it brings and install GNU / Linux for ARM, preferably Arch and if not what seems better at that time - Ubuntu sure not, it is too heavy and bloated for a tablet.
I think it is right that Canonical puts its spoon in various areas so that people who do not know free software begin to wonder what the hell it is. Ubuntu is great for Linux newbies (like me), personally it has opened the doors to this wonderful world of free software. I have successfully installed Ubuntu on almost 40 PCs and the first question that the people to whom I show the Operating System ask me is: And why is Ubuntu not so well known ?, and I think the simple answer is due to lack of marketing. In my personal point of view Canonical is committed to diversification as a form of marketing, the fact that there is a TV with Ubuntu, a tablet with Ubuntu, a cell phone, etc ... allows more and more people to start questioning the existence of this great Operating System and in the best of cases try it, install it and get attached to it as I have done. A greeting.
totally agree 😀
The world of tablets is, I would say, a gift from Apple, where developers have realized that they can add value to their mobility with desktop features, which in my humble opinion seems like a great idea, where many times it is not. You need so much computing power to work, and everyone chooses the equipment they need. Finally, I wanted to ask Ivan Ibarra how is Plasma Active 3 doing on his tablet?
Bad, I could not find a tutorial that explains in detail how to do it, so I continue with CyanogenMod 10.1 (Android 4.2.1).
Greetings.