Coincidentally yesterday I had read the comment of Linus Torvalds in your account G+, and the guys from VeryLinux translated it so I'm bringing them here.
As you can appreciate, Linus lashes out at the security options of openSUSE that from my point of view, are excessive. But beware, these measures have not only been seen in this distribution.
Unburdening myself.
I don't think I can talk about people in the "security" segment without cursing, so maybe it's a good time to cover your eyes.
I gave to openSUSE a chance, especially since it worked really well on installation on my Macbook Air, but I must say that I can no longer. There's no way in hell I can recommend it to anyone.
First of all I wasted weeks debating in bugzilla that the security policy of requiring the password to change the time zone or include a new wireless network card was stupid and wrong.
I think the wireless network issue ended up being fixed, but the time zone issue never did, and it keeps asking for the administrator password.
The moron who thought asking for the admin password for everyday features and functions like this and called it "good security" is mentally ill.
So this is my request: if you have something to do with the security of any distribution, and you think that my children (replace “my children” with “sales representatives” when you consider that your clients are companies) need to have the password of administrator to access any wireless network, or be able to print something, or change the date and time preferences, please kill yourself right now. The world will be a better place.
… And now I need to find a new layout that works well on the MacBook Air.
Well, nothing, there you have it as always, no mincing words. If they want they can go on their own in G+ and they suggest a distro, but be careful, it won't be something that sends them to hell!
Linuz's tantrum is somewhat childish, but he is someone who as a person is uninteresting to me, it will be because I reject arrogance and Mr. Torvalds flaunts it.
I do not know why he does not continue with Fedora, also he criticizes something that you modify only once, unless you travel, as surely is his case, anyway the reaction is extremely exaggerated I use openSUSE because I like it and although there are details that I consider They must be improved, like the speed of Zypper or YaST, I would never think of throwing a "tantrum" as a pre-adolescent, and even more so for someone who is much more than just a user.
What bothers me is the way the entry is presented, it is implied that openSUSE is insecure, when in fact it has an excellent firewall and AppArmor by default. Do not be yellowish that openSUSE is not insecure at all.
Very good reflection. I also do not like the arrogance of Mr. Linus, his outbursts are becoming more common, a shame.
That doesn't mean you can't comment, but there are other ways. I do not like this character, he is pedantic and his opinions seem destructive rather than constructive, he does not give the feeling of help but just the opposite.
On the other hand, it is great that others work and he takes fame, a little humility would not hurt, he is very grown.
Now that I realize you are right. Asking for the admin password for such silly and secure things doesn't make much sense
And this develops the Linux kernel? The mother who bore him ...
How old are you?
Because I have noticed your absurd and childish attitude when it comes to anything to do with apple or anything other than linux.
Having a macbook does not make it a better or a worse developer and if it is about that stallman idealism about being proprietary and whatever. So you shouldn't even use the internet since for Stallman it is a spy tool and therefore he doesn't use it.
He is a minor, yes. But he has skills. Don't link Stallman to Courage. Courage will never propose his girlfriend's name for the GNU kernel. He also likes Metal, Stallman likes the Free Software Song. And although they are both admirable, they can have hobbies like any neighbor's son.
I don't like the forbidden apple either but I respect the posh / designers who savor it. If they give you a Mac and you change the operating system, I respect you even more, but nothing happens if you entertain yourself with an iPad, an iPhone or an iLoqueseacool.
If you give me a Mac, iPhone, iPad or iPod, the first thing I do is sell it, I find some money with that and I buy an equivalent with Android (or Linux directly) and I have money left over 😀
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What I like most about Apple products is the price they have, they are sooo expensive hahahaha… so if I sold one some day, I would win a pasta LOL !!
If you give me a Mac as a gift, I'll keep that piece of machine and dual-boot it 😛
Dual boot? What nonsense, precisely the grace of the Appl € is in its system
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I'm not giving away a Mac, so don't get your hopes up :-P. Buying products with inflated prices seems impractical to me.
Well, it doesn't have to be specifically a Mac either ... HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nonsense, you only speak nonsense, let's go by parts baby:
1: Age has nothing to do with the tastes of each one or their knowledge
2: Childish absurd attitude? Uff…. How bad you are ... I You are never I say things without arguments.
Let's see, what I said about the Mac is because the Linux code is supposed to be open, which the Mac is not, so it seems a bit hypocritical on the part of Torvalds.
The next time you are going to accuse someone of being childish, at least give evidence, if not, it is not worth
Well and ... what does the closed code that contains MacOS have to do with the fact that Linus has a mac? huh?
That is, if Linus knocked him down MacOS (because with how special it is I doubt that he has kept it) it is not so hypocritical.
If you bought a macbook, it is because you could afford it, because you liked it, for X or Y reason and that does not affect your ideal at the time of developing the linux kernel.
If you get the point?
You "internet" kids are always asking for proof, my best proof is that I read this blog often and I often see you saying nonsense like the one we are commenting on at this moment.
Age has nothing to do with the points you have made, never judge your ability or your intelligence, much less your tastes. The comment was rather to emphasize that your mind cannot conceive that the fact that you are a puritan of "free software" does not mean that Linus himself is.
You will have your ideal when coding the linux kernel, but it does not mean that you should therefore deprive yourself of certain things by reflecting your ideal all the time.
I agree with you. Furthermore, a MacBook Air it is nothing more than a set of powerful Hardware, mixed with elegant design and appearance. Now, it would be necessary to see if it still has the MacOS installed and even if it was, I do not see anything hypocritical in it. He can simply afford to purchase and pay for what he is using. And honestly I don't care if you use Windows itself, as long as the kernel development continues to improve with each release.
Anyone (which I am not so much) can see him wrong, even the most fanatics would jump to BSD for it.
It does not matter to me whether the code of an application is open or closed, I am not a programmer, therefore I cannot do anything with that code.
Another thing is the issue of hardware and its optimization, although on the Mac I had I never installed Linux, so I will not comment on how it works
Now you find out that torvalds has a lot of XD macs?
Well, at least he uses Linux on Apple hardware, not like you who use Window $, hahaha.
Fuck that heavy hahaha. I'm going to paste the comment I said yesterday to the sandy one:
Better not talk about it ...
I try Debian and it gives me errors, I try Arch and the same.
They give it to me with Kubuntu and as soon as it is turned on it remains blocked, I could not access any menu or anything.
These have given me the computer as I have taken them, only with Kubuntu instead of a real distro.
It seems to me that this computer is going to stay in the storage room and that when I get some money I will buy one
I already told you that it is not the computer's fault. It must be the hard disk that you put or some problem with other specific hardware (memory, cpu, motherboad) .. The fault is not Debian, nor Arch, nor Kubuntu.
That they have not put anything fucking on me !!! And I know it's the hard drive but it's not worth spending € 60 on a new one
and what's wrong with using Macbook? Apple the only thing that knows how to do well is hardware .. and we have to abmitiro a macbook is a good team. that he wants to put linux uff is an excellent and wonderful idea .. IT IS THE SHOULD BE to install linux to everything \ o /
Precisely the grace of MacBooks is Mac O $ X, buying a Mac to install on Linux seems like a sovereign bullshit, because for what the Mac is worth you buy a piece of computer that you shit from another brand
To my knowledge, Linus uses Fedora.
XD well, I'm not the only crazy person who doesn't like opensuse XD anymore. That's the bad thing about being an "influential" person, when they talk, everyone expects something transcendental to be said ... Let's give it a break, don't you think?
In fact looking at the feedback comments, rather than suggesting a distro they suggest new computers to you. Some responses from linus:
1) Show me a better laptop. Seriously, I tried. They do not exist. They are all big and clumsy.
2) (Responding to someone who said Lenovo is still making decent hardware) no, Lenovo doesn't. I have the Lenovo X1. It's bigger, plastic, and with a worse battery. However es easier to install without hesitation.
mmm I thought the same about Tavo, the title gave me to understand that he was complaining about the security of my favorite distro, I was already worrying that he had some serious bug, thank goodness that he is not.
I find it curious that he would abandon a distro that is doing well on his laptop for something as insignificant as that. I wonder, should we all have abandoned linux when the power consumption problems started after kernel 2.6.38?
Curious things this man says.
It doesn't seem insignificant to me. At this rate they will soon ask for a password to change the desktop background. And in the future every time we click with the mouse with a minimum of 128 characters.
The kernel thing was an unintended problem, what Torvalds criticizes is the "brilliant" idea of an enlightened one.
Yes, Linus Is right; it is an excess… however it does not seem to me the way it claims. So I agree with the substance, but not with the form.
Sometimes we forget that they are people and can spread like other mortals. He has written it on an informal social network, I forgive him :-P.
"The moron who thought asking for the admin password for everyday features and features like this and called it 'good security' is mentally ill."
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Windóusico I do not agree with you on anything, quotes:
"At this rate they will soon ask for a password to change the desktop background." it is possible to know why you say such nonsense, that it has to do one thing with the other. It also seems unnecessary to me to ask for the password to change the time but it is not so bad, also what happens that Torvalds changes the time every day or what? a bullshit still say the things he said and criticize so harshly a distro that is offered for free for our enjoyment, whatever it is for that insignificant detail that it is.
"The kernel thing was an unintended problem, what Torvalds criticizes is the 'brilliant' idea of an enlightened one." Do not be offended but here the enlightened ones seem like you two with the bullshit they say. What is a serious problem is that of energy consumption and many of us have not abandoned linux at the first change for this reason and that they have been slow to give a solution, to the Torvalds that really gives importance to the things that need it. On the other hand, tell you that problems are not wanted, because they are precisely that, problems.
«Sometimes we forget that they are people and can spread like the rest of the mortals. He has written it on a social network on an informal basis, I forgive him "because I do not agree, I remind you that a social network is available to everyone and a person as influential as him with what it means for the linux world should take better care of your words as they can do a lot of damage to a project.
Anyway, I suppose I could answer him on his g + account, but I don't think it's worth it, because he is who he is, he should be more restrained and fair, but perhaps so many years of programming have affected his brain.
Sorry, but I do not agree here friend. That it is offered free of charge has nothing to do with the criticism it deserves, or that can be made (depending on the opinion of each one). Linux Mint has received and receives a lot of criticism, also praise. Ubuntu is offered for free, and you see the criticism it receives, just like ArchLinux (because before it had no signed packages), Debian for having outdated packages, and I could mention more that they are still free, and still receive criticism 😉
Now, on the subject of asking for a password to change the time ... I admire Torvalds in many things, but has it not occurred to him that he asks for a password because change the time to the system, to hardware as such (BIOS) it is an administrative task? 0_oU
I have not checked that in openSUSE, but I believe that when you change the time instead of changing it in your session, user, distro, it changes it to the hardware as such completely, using in the background "hwclock" 🙂
Can anyone confirm this to me from those who use openSUSE?
Jamin Samuel I also believe that he is mentally ill saying that he cannot recommend a distro to anyone for such bullshit.
Greetings.
I do not care what distribution you use, as long as it continues to maintain the fantastic Linux kernel 🙂, apart I think it does not specify much on the subject of your Macbook Air, it only says that you have Linux installed, the same is on another Mac OS X partition ...
On the subject, it may not be the best way to express it, but you are right, there are some distros that look like Windows Vista / 7, they ask for privileges for any trifle ...
This from Linus is very interesting. There is no Linux distro that does not have a hidden bug or two.
Now, we must consider that OpenSuSE always has the system at the forefront with its updates. The latest versions of packages as important as KDE, GNOME and the same Kernel are always available.
With this said, it is not uncommon that sometimes there are no functionalities that are not as refined as others.
In this case of Torvalds, he suggests that if Linux doesn't work exactly the way he likes it, it just doesn't work. It does not matter if it is well implemented or not, if it is well debugged or not ... be careful, we are not talking about a distro where when you move the mouse to the right, the pointer moves to the left, or worse, nothing moves ...
If you want to know how to correct the issue of adding Wi-Fi networks and printers without OpenSuSE asking for the root password, it takes less than 5 minutes because they are parameters of the policykit… here is the link: http://ptylinux.blogspot.com
LOL. In general that sums up all the
flames"Human opinions" and times Torvalds opens his mouth.I would have liked to see the reaction of the linux-boys if these same statements were made by Bill Gates, we are going to be an asshole and despise you would not lower it