Less than a week has lasted me Kubuntu on the work computer and is that the simple fact of being able to have KDE 4.10 does not obscure the stability and speed it had with Debian-KDE.
The problem started when for any reason I got an error message, the one that has the option of sending a report to the developers and calls itself Bring. I would go out for anything, finish watching a video and close Dragon player (for example), and BOOM !!! the little message .. and so with all the applications. The message can be removed, we will see how to do it in another post, but come on, when the river sounds ...
Suddenly the notifications disappeared from the panel and went to the upper left part of the screen. Some applications were not running .. anyway. So neither short nor lazy last night I turned to Debian Testing.
I will not blame Kubuntu o KDE, in the first instance because I don't know which of the two is to blame for these things happening. I blame myself for wearing a PPA about a version of Kubuntu which has proven to be stable on other computers, with its version of KDE figure.
But the reality is that I go home, where I feel better .. and my Desktop is looking like this for now .. For those who are interested, the Plasma theme that I am using is openSUSE and the background belongs to the wallpapers of elementary moon.
Moreover, KDE 4.10 proved to be in excellent shape. Although Debian I will have to wait a long time to be able to use it, the wait will be worth it, also, this version (the 4.8) does not misbehave ..
It's great, personally, I like debian, I'm new to linux, and I don't know how to install KDE or other interfaces, but I repeat, Debian is great with KDE. Cheers
Thank you. Well if you want to try this can help you: Debian Wheezy + KDE 4.8.x: Installation and customization..
In that article I explain how to install a more or less minimal KDE .. but I would advise you to simply install the meta-package: kde-full 😀
For now I only have to install it in VBox, since the bios of my pc does not support ANY linux. So thanks for the tut, and to try it, by the way, the wallpaper link? greetings again 😀
I got them from here..
On the Debian website look for → "ISO CD images" select the example download medium → "Download Debian CD / DVD images via HTTP / FTP" select whether CD or DVD. Now the i386 or amd64 platform, within the available iso, select → "debian-6.0.6-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso"
I advise you to use an image prepared by Debian with KDE by default:
6-bit Debian 32:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
6-bit Debian 64:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso
7-bit Debian 32:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
7-bit Debian 64:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso
I just started with debain testing KDE, I come from PClinuxOS. I am happy, I have managed to make everything work quite easily, which has left me very satisfied. I've been using linux for a few years but I'm not an expert. I think I will stick with Debian for quite some time.
My first comment! Greetings and congratulations for the blog, it is a pleasure to read it.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting .. I'm glad you found in Debian personal satisfaction .. 🙂
Thanks for commenting 🙂
Indeed, the stability of Debian Testing (added to some versions of current software) make it an excellent option, it is a pity that KDE is so far behind there 🙁
And thanks for that last thing you say haha
I already knew that it was not going to last you 😀
I'm just waiting to install PC-BSD… hehehe
Hopefully it's worth it, but I'm telling you, with our current situation .. you'll be back to Debian in less than a month hahaha ..
We will see ... it is possible, yes, but we will see.
For now I am motivated to learn about BSD systems ... ipfw, use something other than Bash (although I know I will miss it haha), etc etc ... I want to learn about BSD, it catches my attention 🙂
www, archbsd.net
FreeBSD with a userspace according to the time we live in 😉
PC-BSD is a great option, and I don't know what your situation is that they mention, but PC-BSD is very similar to how we install the programs in windows:
.pbi => .exe
The pbi bring everything (dependencies) and weigh more, they just install them and that's it.
http://www.pbidir.com/
They even install in a specific directory (I think it was / usr / Programs /)
And as for bash, you're going to have to just use tcsh or sh or install bash.
Still I use FreeBSD 😛
regards
Why don't you dare to try Debian GNU / kFreeBSD and report back to us how it goes? [smiles maliciously]
For the part that says "Debian" ...
(running to wash my hands!)
You also have this repository to have a more recent version of kde (not 4.10 but 4.9.5)
http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/
Unfortunately when I tried to use it I had too many dependency conflicts .. 🙁
Baby come back !! Goodbye Kubuntu, Hello Debian >>> this happens to elav.
Baby come back !! Goodbye Debian, Hello Fedora >>> this happens to me.
Baby come back !! Goodbye Kubuntu, Hello Debian >>> this happens to elav.
Baby come back !! Goodbye Debian, Hello Fedora >>> this happens to Garbage_Killer.
Baby come back !! Goodbye Fedora, Hello Arch >>> this happens to me…. XD !!!
Very good article. I have installed Debian a couple of times, but I end up removing it, because I don't know how to connect to the internet via wi-fi. If someone tells me how to do it ...
But the problem is that you don't know how to use Wi-Fi or that Debian won't connect?
That, I don't know how to use Wi-Fi, I don't know how to connect it, that's why I removed it, because it bothers me to be connected with the cable, greetings.
Let's see. If the distribution (in this case Debian) already has the corresponding firmware installed with your Wi-Fi hardware, you just have to enable or disable it using NetworkManager or Wicd. As simple as that.
OK thanks. When I install Debian again, I will try NetworkManager. And one more thing, do you know when Debian 7 comes out?
If all goes well (and hopefully so), by March ..
I really think that you will last a month or at most two and then you will try something else ..., well xd
Well, no. In fact, before installing Kubuntu I had Debian installed with KDE for several months .. although well, you never know 😀
Several months ... That's called sick fidelity.
The truth is I think it will last longer, Debian has something that holds people back for longer, before I switched to Ubuntu again (to have a more recent Gnome shell), I lasted 8 months in Debian Testing, and I'm sure that I'll go back to Debian once that branch is unfrozen and they start updating the software versions again.
I've always used Debian .. I always try other things and come back .. always 😀
I was surprised that you have been praising Kubuntu for so long, but I didn't say anything because I was almost certain that it was a temporary glare and that sooner rather than later you would return home, hahaha.
Hmmmmm, I have tried Debian very little, at most in a virtual machine, but it doesn't really appeal to me. It is true that it has stability and low resource consumption, but it would feel a big hole when using apt-get instead of pacman as package manager. Besides being a super-frozen point release. The truth is that I will give it another chance, because I just had a very ugly Xfce desktop (obviously before customization) although maybe I can remember my old days with Ubuntu Xfce, with a plank below and a nice panel custom 26 px above and custom gradient made in GIMP. Ahhh, what times were those. In a way, I feel nostalgic for using an ultra-modern Archlinux with KDE, and having so abruptly dumped my beloved mouse that it gave me so much joy.
Yes, it sounds ridiculous, but that happens.
Where did you get the topic of plasma? I have not found it
It was sent to me by a friend who uses openSUSE.. You can download it from this link.
Ok thanks 😀
Congratulations elav, good decision.
Look around here you can see the bugs left to release wheezy.
http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&merged=ign&rc=1
Some Bugs seem a bit silly to me .. but anyway .. Thanks for the tip 🙂
If that's why I hope they will be resolved quickly.
A question elav, in a PC with Intel Pentium G620 2.6 Mhz dual core processor with 2 GB of Ram will Wheezy + KDE run well?
Uff, you are left over .. 😀
Thanks, proceeding.
What icons are you using? They look very interesting.
How are people going !!!!, from Buenos Aires commenting on my experience with KDE 4.10.
On Kubuntu 12.10. I get errors everywhere, there are applications that do not run, little error report signs appear, shutdown, logout, a disaster. The previous version was 4.98 which worked out of 10 !!!. Does anyone know how to go back to the previous version or update the current one, which also does not come with animated backgrounds.
Thank you hug !!!, Osky
Going back I don't know, because if you are using the Backport PPA, I doubt they will go back a step 😀
Thanks for answering. Look I use the Backport PPA. If there is no going back, how would you solve the issue in your opinion. Thanks for the collaboration.
Well, unfortunately right now I can't think of a solution .. Because maybe a downgrade could be done if you had the old packages in the apt cache, but I don't think it is 100% satisfactory .. besides being cumbersome. Thanks to you for comming.
I use Kubuntu 12.10 64 bits, what happens that I am in the office at the moment !!!!. A consultation should reinstall everything !!!!
I guess removing the ppa, uninstalled kubuntu-desktop (I think that's what it's called) and reinstall it using whatever is available in the repos.
Yes, but I would go back to KDE 4.8 or something like that ... and I don't know if what you want is to go back to KDE 4.9
just use ppa purge….
I will try ... Thank you
Very easy OiaO27: try to install Chakra 2013.02 «Benz», KDE experience pure and without problems, at least for me it has been and is a super stable distro
http://thechakrabay.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/un-vistazo-a-chakra-2013-02-benz/
One distro with kde that I really like is chakra, apart from having a large number of programs in either pacman or ccr they keep them updated and without losing the stability of the system. You even have prawns (RAD on linux) that I'm currently using.
By the way, the blog is very good, from Chile.
PC-BSD, the desktop version of FreeBSD, will become a "rolling distro" this year 2013 (I put it in quotes, since it is not a proper distribution, as we know them from the Linux world).
Last night I left the article on my G + account, but I will comment on it again now and here, for those who were sleeping, and for those who have a problem with English:
http://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/02/status-update-and-future-plans/
There Kris tells us that, thanks to the new pkgng parcel system, the entire current PBI parcel system will pass to pkgng. Apart from this, it will do the same at the operating system level as well, using the "freebsd-update" utility to handle system updates at the binary level, but also for -RELEASE, -STABLE and -CURRENT.
The issue does not stop there, no. All PC-BSD's own utilities; helpers, scripts, etc, will also be available in the FreeBSD ports. This means that you can also install a FreeBSD, and in a moment have a desktop based on PC-BSD ready.
Thanks to all these changes, it will be achieved that, for example, when a new version of KDE appears in the ports, it will be immediately available. If there is an update in the apache version due to a bug fix, it will be available immediately, etc ... Also, not only will you be able to have a PC-BSD / FreeBSD system in the -RELEASE branch, you will also be able to have it in -STABLE without having to upgrade the code and recompile the system !!
All this, the truth, put me last night like a motorcycle. So much as to lie down and hang around for a while, because I couldn't stop imagining the possibilities ...
This year 2013 is really going to be an extremely interesting year for the FreeBSD / PC-BSD world 😉
PC-BSD just sucks.
To have a good desktop BSD the best as always is to install FreeBSD (or ArchBSD when it's ready) and add what we want to it.
And one thing: FreeBSD _is rolling release_, in fact stable snapshots are just that, snapshots of a certain point in the development tree. FreeBSD can be installed once and kept up to date without the need for obnoxious updates every 6 or 8 months or every 2, 3, 5 or 7 years 😛
Hi Elav,
I tell you that I have been using Kubuntu for several months now, the version that threw errors at first was 12.04, but only the first two weeks, after that nothing. Currently I use version 12.10 with KDE 4.10 and believe me, I have not had a single error with the applications, not even in some applications that I use with Crossover (SPSS), less in the native ones. In addition to the fact that I use Bespin, a theme that is not completely finished, and I have not had any problems, I think I was lucky.
What if, is that I have Kernel 3.7 installed, because for some unknown reason, Kernel 3.5 on my laptop gave me many problems, so much so that I reinstalled the system more than 1 time, I thought it was a Kubuntu problem and installed other distributions which coincidentally had the Kernel 3.5 and I got the same problem. With this Kernel it is difficult for my laptop to start, as it does not turn off completely and when starting again, it loads the Grub and then the screen remains blank and from there it does not happen, until after 2 or 3 button presses it reacts.
After searching online for a solution, and since I didn't find anything (I think I'm the only rare case with this flaw) in those days, Kernel 3.6 was released and, disappointed, I decided to install it, I told myself; "My system does not work well, what does it matter, let's try it" and oh, what a surprise, I did not have the boot failure again, to date, with Kernel 3.7.6 I have not had the slightest problem, my system flows quite well and smoothly.
Because of the above, I think that something different happens to all of us with certain distro (s); but I think it goes more hand in hand with our Hardware than with the distribution itself. That is my humble opinion.
Here is a screenshoot of my desktop:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m1x1ZBnWo7w/UR2x-6EcYDI/AAAAAAAABTE/tI43dPC6ZQA/s800/Kubuntu%252012.10.png
Greetings to all. XD
The problem is that I have only the Debian Testing and Ubuntu 12.04 repository at hand ... also, I would not install 12.10 so that it runs out of support in less than what a rooster crows 😀
How is it going, all good? I would be interested to know how the Kubuntu 12.10 64 bits is updated to the Kernel 3.7. You will be kind enough to explain.
Thank you from Buenos Aires, Argentina. Osky
Hi Oai, Kernel 3.7.8 is now available.
On this page they indicate the installation steps:
http://www.upubuntu.com/2013/02/install-linux-kernel-378-in-ubuntulinux.html
Once you make sure that your equipment and applications work well with the new Kernel, I recommend you uninstall the old Kernel, including the Headers, since in my case, Google-Earth gave me an error (it did not start); but I fixed it by uninstalling the old Header.
To see the installed kernels:
sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image
To see the installed headers:
sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
To uninstall both:
sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-XXX
sudo apt-get remove --purge inux-headers-XXX
I hope you find it useful.
Greetings.
Thanks for the suggestion, I put it into practice and I tell you. A hug from Buenos Aires. Osky
So have you managed to run SPSS under crossover? Interesting. May I know which version of SPSS?
Hello Hugo:
These are the SPSS applications that I have installed on Kubuntu 12.10:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eEvJGS2auU4/USEblv3GsUI/AAAAAAAABTY/_88B5CR5VRA/s496/Aplicaciones.png
These work with Crossover 11.3.1 and I tell you that to date I have not had problems, when working with the databases or programming within the application itself. It is version 4.5, it is somewhat obsolete; but quite functional for what I do.
A curious fact is that these do not run on Windows 8, only Win 7 and XP.
Greetings.
It's good to go back to Debian, with ubuntu in general I never get along except with the occasional lts (and in the server branch), but the truth, in Debian, it is the times that become problematic, there are things that are desired a lot and one gets used to it or bursts.
You get out of the stable and you go up and things happen a little faster, but it is still slow even if the packages move faster (patching the code is still a good policy). Also people let themselves be a bit appealing to the stable, you can find some Debian 4 in production.
At home I have Debian running for file management + backup, it is still the dominant one on my computers, but for the day to day, little by little I am moving to Arch (where downgrading is a little easier and I can say that I use unity, without ever having installed a unity with ubuntu 😛) and profiling towards bsd (I already have at least one, the firewall at home).
regards
Thanks for stopping by and commenting .. It is true that sometimes we despair to have new things, but right now the stability and (the feeling that this gives) that I have right now I do not change it for anything .. KDE is still a bit old compared to other distro, but this version 4.8 works wonders ..
It's great, debian has something that makes you come back. I also have debian testing + KDE, I don't have it so personalized, since I like KDE and Oxygen effects.
http://www.subirimagenes.com/imagen-es-8300811.html
that's my desk.
Air looks nice in KDE 4.10, but it still lacks a little bit .. Also, I am a little more attracted to the dark color panel .. but to enjoy 😀
Hi Elav,
in the end I also left openSUSE KDE which I consider a very good distro and I have returned to Debian Wheezy. The stability and agility of Debian is comparable only to RHEL or CentOS and these have a somewhat "old" package. It seems that once one develops in Debian and does what he wants, he dominates the administrator and it is difficult to get out of Debian's hands… I always come back .. It is simply the best distro :-). I leave you a PrtSc from my desk ..
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ko6bhsiv6xx8nmu/sn%C3%ADmek1.png
Greetings Debianeros 🙂
Dear @elav, you should give OpenSUSE a chance, a distribution, in my opinion, not suitable for versionitics. At first, it may be a bit heavy for you and I admit that the distro's resource consumption is not the best. It is sure that it is the most robust and stable kde distribution that I used (I am encouraged to say the same as Debian but much more updated).
Anyway I write from stable Debian and last week I installed Crunchbang Waldorf (based on debian testing) on the work computer, I consider myself a must but the day I leave Windows Seven on my notebook, I have to admit that it has not given reasons to remove it , I would surely install OpenSUSE kde. Always the repositories of the latest kde versions work very well on this distro
It is precisely NOT the most robust or stable distribution starting with its poor PACKAGEKIT integration that has ten thousand problems, or the heaviness of Yast2 that is also graphic torture.
The best KDE SC is Arch Linux 64-bit period.
Sorry but I don't agree. Arch may be the best for you, you have enough experience to install it, outline it and leave it to your personal taste. For most mid-level users (let alone newbies), Arch will never be a valid option, whatever desktop environment is chosen, for the simple fact that they won't know / will be able to install it, say "cleanly".
I'm still in my thirteen: the best KDE SC right now is Chakra 2012.03, if you press OpenSuse.
Thanks
As you say, Mr. owner of the absolute truth
not really, no.
HAAHAHA, they bit several! xD
Obviously it's the best _for me_ but nothing more than that 🙂
You were trolled 😀
After trying all of them and I say ... all the xD distributions I have come to the conclusion that Kubuntu is the best distro, since version 12.04 things have changed and according to my experience the latest version of kde always works better than the one that comes by default , those error messages sometimes come out but whenever they came out it was my fault, for trying things out, it's a fantastic distro, I install them to my friends and family and everyone is delighted, I went to Linux more or less 15 People and all of them after 1 or 2 weeks no longer want to start their windows, hopefully kubuntu continues on this path now with bluesystem, excellent blog but those errors will not come out for touching the system too much? xD greetings
Everyone has the freedom to use the distro of their choice, but some of us lean towards old-school operating systems like Slackware and Debian.