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Short and simplistic version:

Fayerwayer: "Linux world freezes, Red Hat will incorporate its 'CentOS' clone as its own."

Linux Magazine: "Red Hat and CentOS Bury the Ax of War and Decide to Work Together."

Linuxera farandula magazine that does not exist: «The intimate photos of RedHat and CentOS and Fedora's jealous reaction. "

My opinion: RedHat «buys» CentOS and it will make it a Fedora for servers, without ceasing to be free.

Large version:

RedHat: We are joining forces with CentOS to build a new CentOS, capable of leading towards the development and adoption of next generation open source technologies. This collaboration reinforces Red Hat's proven business model by extending its open source development ecosystem. Red Hat anticipates that taking the role of catalyst within the CentOS community will allow it to accelerate the development of enterprise-grade subscription solutions for customers and partners, such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux, RHEL OpenStack Platform, RH Cloud Infrastructure, RHE Virtualization, RH JBoss Middleware, OpenShift by Red Hat, and RH Storage.

CentOS: Together with this alliance with RedHat, we released a new web page y a new political organization of the project. There will be a governing team of 8-11 who will take responsibility for the vision of the project (now there are 9, 3 from Red Hat and 6 from the CentOS community) and special interest teams that are responsible for building the system, adding and maintain functionalities, etc.

We also want to clarify what things change and what does not: It does not change the CentOS platform, nor the bug handling system nor the independence between CentOS and RHEL, much less the free CentOS. What does happen is that some members of CentOS will also work on Red Hat (not RHEL) and that Red Hat will offer support to implement Red Hat solutions on CentOS. He even proposes to create variants CentOS specialists for each of those solutions.

For more information, this other site: http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/


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  1.   FIXOCONN said

    It does not change the CentOS platform, nor the bug handling system nor the independence between CentOS and RHEL, much less the free CentOS.
    if so, we are still on the right track

  2.   elav said

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      That is the dilemma. Although it seems that RHEL and CentOS could be launched simultaneously to avoid unnecessary fights.

      Waiting for a Russian CentOS Remix.

      1.    diazepan said

        http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/

        Will CentOS releases be synchronously available with those of Red Hat Enterprise Linux?

        No, CentOS releases will follow shortly after the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux source. Release timing may also be based on the release schedule determined by the project to include additional components.

      2.    Fedorian said

        That existed, it was based on Scientific Linux and it was called RERemix (Russian Enterprise Remix) Unfortunately, it was discontinued.

        Although if you look for it it will still be around. I think the last version was 6.2.

        1.    diazepan said

          What there is is a ROSA Server

          http://www.rosalab.com/products/server/

        2.    eliotime3000 said

          It is not to discriminate against the efforts of the redhateros, but I hope that they do not commit the imprudence of saying that "it cannot help them" for absurd reasons (if it is community, it has to be, but it does not have to mix one thing with another).

          1.    Ivan Barra said

            You mean what happened to Fedora some time ago because of the embargo countries? If so, I expect the same as you.

            Greetings.

          2.    eliotime3000 said

            That same.

    2.    let's use linux said

      Post. How strange all this ...
      For now, let's celebrate. 🙂

  3.   moscosov said

    Strictly speaking, your version is Linux Magazine.

  4.   Gonzalo said

    "The intimate photos of RedHat and CentOS and the jealous reaction of Fedora." LOL

  5.   dhunter said

    According to a u / digitalwhisper on reddit:

    «This makes so much sense for RedHat. CentOS serves as an entry point for future customers. Once the operation gets big enough, they are going to want to pay for support and have a smooth transition to RedHat proper.

    Aka the Freemium Model. »

    http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1unij2/red_hat_and_the_centos_project_join_forces_to/

  6.   woqer said

    At first it seems like good news, I suppose that RedHat wants to take advantage of the pull of the community for its own purposes and in return will give a bit of support to CentOS, it seems correct to me. Hopefully there are no dark ends behind this pact

  7.   invisible15 said

    The idea sounds good ... At the moment, I hope it does not take a dramatic turn over time.

  8.   fernandom2010 said

    The Spanish version is missing: our servers with centos go from having a stable and free Red Hat to being testers of the next versions and we will be able to pay to help us solve problems that usually arise.

    P.S. but not even so I switch to debian

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      That's the attitude. If they confirm it in the news in English, OK, it is accepted, but at least, I hope it is just a testing branch (they already have Fedora for that work). With CentOS having the beta and stable (or RTM) branch, I will be satisfied.

  9.   DanielC said

    Those of Fayerwayer gave this news as good for the Linux world. You can tell that his world is that of Apple and gadgets.

    Knowing what RedHat is like, this note cannot mean anything good. At least not for the CentOS users and community.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      That union meant only one thing to me: The old Red Hat Linux is back.

  10.   Outdated said

    If you can't with the competition, buy it hehehe. It is clear that Red Hat wants to make a clear distinction between its enterprise version and centos (you just have to read the note on its website), although both are 99% similar and only the people who have created the packages from them change. the sources and little else ...

    What will Red Hat do to convince people to pay for the subscription? That is the key to the matter. They have in favor their technical support service, their security patches and their image and business reputation, plus some other private source code that they have not released to the public ... I see little else.

    Hopefully Red Hat plays fair and both Centos and Red Hat Enterprise will benefit from this union.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      In the case of Fedora, synflag showed that if a redhatero comes, they can screw up with the embargoed countries and all that riot. But the problem is that if Fedora is supposed to be community, why do we have to stick to policies that are only valid for commercial services? Hence, the resentment that many have of Red Hat with the reckless politics it had with some Fedora users.

      With CentOS, they will most likely make the same mistake, since Red Hat tends to bring its members into said community (they do not influence, but they trolle with the same topic).

  11.   SynFlag said

    It is clear what happens and will happen here.
    On the one hand, Red Hat has been losing its customer base for a long time due to CentOS and to a lesser extent Scientific Linux.
    Anyone who reads the CentOS wiki or forums, will see that managing a CentOS is as easy as Ubuntu, at least as far as server is concerned, therefore, fewer and fewer hosting services want to pay for the Red Hat license, and more and more good dedicated ones are offered between their OS, CentOS and not redhat.

    Therefore, it is very clear, this happened years ago, Fedora started as a separate project to Red Hat Linux to the east dissolving, little by little, Red Hat was buying (if buying), people from the Fedora Core community, with jobs, etc, to the point that Fedora became DE Red Hat, which produces to this day, that they are not even FREE to decide which countries to support, when before, if they were.

    The same will happen with CentOS, in addition to that, surely, in favor of improving the technology (among many quotes) they will begin to put soft beta or RC in CentOS, in opposition to stability, this will force many to pay for the license of Red Hat, because CentOS will no longer be the binary clone, but it will be from Red Hat, just look at the union's FAQ, I don't know if you noticed this:

    CentOS Trademark

    The CentOS Project is a community project. The CentOS Project leadership has transferred the CentOS trademark to Red Hat for protection and stewardship. The CentOS Governing Board will be responsible for policing use of the mark.

    For more information about trademark and branding use, refer to http://www.centos.org/trademarks

    Nobody in their right mind gives the trademark to a company, unless they want to lose the right to their brand, logo, etc.

    For me, this is a problem, I will have to see what happens, if things happen as I think, I will have to migrate to Scientific Linux, or something stable for the use of KVM, Slackware, Gentoo or Debian in the worst case. (I say this because the truth is that I have been using things like slack or red hat for years, and the truth is that Debian has things that I do not understand because they complicate them).

    regards

    1.    diazepan said

      The note was not going to be complete without your opinion. Thank you.

      1.    SynFlag said

        Hehehe thanks. I was inquiring about the subject on IRC, in centos and others more related and it took me a pleasant surprise, for now, and I hope it does not happen to adults, although the truth, only time will tell, but for me, time will tell that Red Hat will start cramming its stuff into CentOS

        1.    eliotime3000 said

          It caused me mixed feelings, since thanks to the recklessness of the redhateros on IRC it made me try CentOS, which, version 6.4 left me more than satisfied to consider it an alternative to Debian, but as I see that Red hat wants add some features that would leave it with a stability like Debian Testing currently has, I'd better stick with Debian.

    2.    dhunter said

      Do you find Debian complicated? I've been with Debian for years and now I've had to play Centos and Fedora and I think the other way around. Is it a matter of experience?

    3.    eliotime3000 said

      I recommend Slackware, it is KISS but its range of options is much more complete to customize it however you want. With Debian, it can save you a certain amount of time with more than decent stability (proof of this is the VPS used by this blog), but if you are a freak with details, better use Slackware or Gentoo.

      For my case, I prefer to stick with Debian until I get bored (and I think that day will never come).

      1.    dhunter said

        Slack or Gentoo for server? o_O

        1.    eliotime3000 said

          Yes, since in Gentoo, you are not required to download the current version of the source code of the program you want.

  12.   petercheco said

    Red Hat begins making changes to CentOS.
    Proof of it:

    Export Regulations

    By downloading CentOS software, you acknowledge that you understand all of the following: CentOS software and technical information may be subject to the US Export Administration Regulations (the “EAR”) and other US and foreign laws and may not be exported, re-exported or transferred (a) to any country listed in Country Group E: 1 in Supplement No. 1 to part 740 of the EAR (currently, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan & Syria); (b) to any prohibited destination or to any end user who has been prohibited from participating in US export transactions by any federal agency of the US government; or (c) for use in connection with the design, development or production of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, or rocket systems, space launch vehicles, or sounding rockets, or unmanned air vehicle systems. You may not download CentOS software or technical information if you are located in one of these countries or otherwise subject to these restrictions. You may not provide CentOS software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise subject to these restrictions. You are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements applicable to the import, export and use of CentOS software and technical information.

    https://www.centos.org/download/

    Does it sound familiar?

    But apart from the clause, Red Hat has expanded the official CentOS repos a little more, which at the moment brings only good things for CentOS since it is not beta or RC software but stable software from RHEL repos

    1.    diazepan said

      Yes, it still doesn't talk about denying support as Fedora explicitly says so.

    2.    eliotime3000 said

      No, it's not Déja Vu. It is a copypaste of what I read in Fedora.

      Also, what do US export administration regulations have to do with precisely community software? It is not because of being resentful of Red Hat, but if they are going to start putting their redhatrolls, I'd better use Slackware.