This is confirmed by Clem Lefebvre in an exclusive interview that will appear in the next issue of Linux Users & Developers And I can't help wondering. What do you have in mind, Clem?
As Unity, Cinnamon so far is a SHELL for GNOME, and not relying on it at all in the backend only means two things:
- Or they change libraries.
- Or fork GNOME
I can't think of a third. In either case, Cinnamon 2.0 It will be a huge effort on the part of the Linux Mint and hopefully the play goes well for them, since some distributions that included it by default left it aside.
Sure, I highly doubt right now that Clem cares, as his goal is to Cinnamon works fine on your distribution, but the higher your user quota, the more likely it is that more and more developers will be able to join your team.
So let's wait for the next issue of Linux Users & Developers to come out and if we're lucky, for the interview to be published online.
I think that with this Cinnamon could end up establishing itself as the 3rd great Linux desktop.
Maybe they have found help to get something like this forward and that is why they are going to win, such as with Mate, which in coordination is maintained by several developers from other distros and projects.
It would be a dream if they opt for QT 🙂
They have me flat with the qt wea, for me both gtk and qt are good, and I would find much better if these 2 codes or whatever they say, were compatible with each other
so there would be no problems to use gtk applications in qt environments and vice versa
I don't know why those who develop them do that
PS: I personally like gtk more at the moment
I thought I read that they already have the gnome fork and will continue on that path ...
- This is the story of a boy named Gnome, who after a brilliant start became conceited and pretentious.
- This attitude of his did not like his friends and colleagues, so they began to turn their backs on both Mint, Ubuntu, etc.
- Finally, your colleagues invested a little time in getting other people to do the same as Gnome did, only these new people (Mate, Unity, Cinnamon) were much cooler, better people 😀
- End of story ... Gnome was left alone, hardly anyone visited him or spoke to him ...
LOL!
Yes, you can tell stories ...
I fell asleep from the first line. xD
Hopefully and I know, because as it is now, it does not fit me. The GNOME-Shell I see faster. I like the Cinnamon's Nemo more than the native GNOME-Shell's Nautilus. By the way, little or nothing has been said about how fast the Red Browser works in Wheezy now. After I install it on my business WorkStation, it just flies. The Network does not hesitate to show itself and there are more than 105 machines.
That is based on QML and uses Unity base. I mean, the mouse is on track ...
They didn't want to use gnome as a base because it wasn't very stable (it changed version by version) and they are going to move to unity? hehe that wouldn't make much sense.
If you want to do a project in qt to help maui-project and your desktop Hawaii
http://www.maui-project.org/
Anyway, I don't think they will go to qt but from what I understand there are almost no advantages in terms of performance and use of ram memory between qt and gtk3 (even those of lxde are making a version of lxde together with the razor-qt programmers )
Mine was sarcasm !! xD
XD
Sarcasm is difficult to detect online 😛
The GNOME project is ongoing. If the Linux Mint developers can't adapt ahead of time or don't like the changes made by the GNOME developers.
It is the best decision Linux Mint can make to create a desktop environment independently to avoid conflicts and mishaps with GNOME.
I had problems with NEMO when using GNOME CLASSIC and it was all due to incompatibility. GNOME took its path and that path is very different from CINNAMON and Linux Mint. Linux Mint can't waste time adapting to GNOME decisions
I wish the best to both GNOME and LINUX MINT projects.
Because if they do well, then the free software community will do better.
Hahahaha some of these messages remind me of what happened with Ubuntu when it decided to create Unity, now I see them very happy with a similar story. Mint + Cinnamon.
What are things, to see how many disband and create another XD distro.
I find it excellent, Cinnamon is one of the best heavy desks out there
Elav: If you take into consideration that the total size of the 13 .deb files of cinnamon_1.6.7 + lmde_i386, necessary to install in Wheezy, is only 10.5 MB, I think you are correct when you affirm the change of libraries or make a fork from GNOME. And the rest of the dependencies are in the normal Wheezy repository.
Thanks for the tip, Fico. What's more, I think I'll put it as an optional desktop so I don't have to depend between the Shell and the Fallback.
Long live Cinnamon
This decision seems reasonable to me
I've always said: "Gnome will become a proper Operating System very soon" and it's called GnomeOS
Gnome Foundations will be closing the libraries more and more so that NOBODY uses their base system.
Ubuntu has to do the same as Linux Mint is doing, stop relying on base Gnome and migrate to Unity to QT or something else.
Closing a gpl library is impossible, congratulations for the aberration you just said. xD
Jamin:
1.- You have not discovered the black thread. Gnome for 1 year have been saying that they are going to make their OS, and that idea they had been handling for 2 years.
2.- It is impossible for them to close, besides that they themselves have already said that it is not the intention (that nobody uses them).
3.- Canonical since 12.04 has already released its version with some Qt things, and already announced months ago that it is moving Unity to Qt / QML and will be ready for 14.04.
I think you are not very aware of what you are criticizing.
I hope they make it so there will be no more whining with each new version of GNOME.
By the way, I looked at MuyUbuntu's Facebook post talking about this topic, but the title indicated that it was already a reality. Of course, I thought, "I'd better go DesdeLinux, which must be false.
I am honestly curious about the decision. It seems to me that LInux Mint has been clear about its future for a long time but many have not realized that: It wants a complete and integrated system in its distro. Point. No more no less.
That goal may be criticized but at least it seems brave to me, desde LInux mint 8 Helena I recommend to all my newbie friends that they start with Mint (usually the version that is based on the LTS of Ubuntu), so, at least my affection for Mint is not because of its separation from Unity, it is that I have always had better results with them.
I really hope that the bet turns out well for them, I find their proposals very interesting, mainly Cinnamon, it is aesthetic and classic, ideal; of course it lacks development and nothing will ever be perfect but at least the bet is interesting. We will see.
KDE SC is hyper flexible, in fact it can be molded to your liking so that virtually every installation can be unrecognizable.
For those who complain that the window composer needs extra resources, let's leave the old-fashioned gossip, in fact Mutter needs more requirements than KWIN.
Why reinvent the wheel?
KDE SC in its main edition, Xfce and friends for those who like them.
It seems like a logical step after looking at the GNOME policy. But a question comes to mind, perhaps because I have read so many criticisms of Canonical for not using GNOME Shell. What would have happened if Canonical forked or totally stopped relying on GNOME? I mean the racket of criticism. And for those who say about Qt in Ubuntu, remember that Unity is written in Qt, but the backend is Gtk + .-
Finally Linux Mint opted for a reasonable solution but for which Canonical was criticized. In the end, Mark was right.
Totally agree ... history repeats itself and now who will be the bad guys and who will be the good guys?
GNOME 3 has gone from guatemala to guatepeor with Shell and the impersonation of fallback with a too heavy "classic" that looks like a hybrid of Unity with MATE. I'm happy with the default GNOME Fallback in Debian Wheezy.
I hope Cinnamon has the best of luck with its independence from GNOME.
Let's see if they upload the interview when it comes out (:
I see it well, I do not like the attitude of taking advantage of a project and on top of complaining that they break this and that, if your interests are different from those of the mother project, better do something else, a total fork or something and go your way.
Good decision by linux mint.
And more fragmentation for the Linux world ...