Elementary Os Luna, finally stable! Review

Was wearing Lubuntu these days quite happy, except for some errors that I had with the relocation of certain program windows.

I finally enter Google+ And I remember the announcement that it was probably going to come out Elementary OS stable. I go to the web and I already found the ISO. I bring it down and test it on Live CD.

In the first place we find a Desktop Environment, clean, beautiful and simple, very similar to that of Mac OSX.
So far everything nice on the live cd, until you realize that your hardware is not well supported by Kernel 3.2 and table 8, so I set about installing the distro and then using xorg edgers ppa to have the last table, and Kernel 3.11 from the ppa of Ubuntu Kernels.

Once all this was done, I decided to start the review of the environment step by step, we will look at each of the applications.

Noise:

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 14:45:25

This pretty looking app, inspired by iTunes. It offers us the classic 3 viewing modes, by covers, list mode and "artists, genre, albums" mode.

The application is very simple, it also offers us synchronization with LastFM and so far nothing new that they do not already offer, Banshee, Rhythmbox, Clementine, Amarok, Audacious ...

In my testing the app mysteriously crashed the first two times I wanted to set the music folder, the third time was the charm.

The presence of radios, such as Shoutcast, Icecast, as well as a now playing plugin for Empathy is missed.

Geary:

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 13:58:12


First to say that I really like the vertical style of the program's trays, it reminds me a lot of the Mail application from Osx.

I have perfectly loaded the images of the Gmail emails, which did not work at all well in KMail.

The problem is that when they go from minimalists, they have forgotten something that for me is totally necessary. I'm talking about searching for emails, searching for words, content, days, etc. It is really uncomfortable to search for a message from the year 2012 without having the search box.

Midori:

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 13:58:41

Once again to say that the version of Midori granite looks very successful, the navigation is quite fluid and I have not suffered unexpected closures as it usually happens to me with browsers based on qtwebkit.

But once again, even following a post from the Elementary guys, I couldn't get flash to work in this browser (64-bit). So it was just one more Internet Explorer that helped me to download Chrome.

Files (Phanteon Files):

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 14:49:22

I really liked this program, it does what is necessary, it has the 3 types of classic views, folder mode, list etc. It does what is just and necessary that a user needs, neither more nor less. Its aesthetic reminds me a lot of that of the OS X file manager, but in this case, being much lighter.

So a +1 for this app.

Calendar:

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 14:49:30

In this case, I cannot give a specific opinion, I have never used this type of application, so to this day I do not really understand how they can help me.

Applications menu:

Screenshot from 2013-08-12 14:54:49

Quite a success, compared to Gnome Shell, as there is no reason to have a menu that fills the entire screen. We have the possibility of alphabetically ordered view, as well as the possibility of listing by types of applications.

System preferences:

There is not much to say about this, it is a copy of the same Ubuntu application that was in turn based on the same one from OS X. Practically the same, it fulfills its function and the only thing I miss is that it allows me to decide whether to put folders on the desktop. Which I solved with Gnome Tweak Tools.

Software Center:

I thought we would finally find ourselves in the new hub that they had announced, but in the end I just came across the same Ubuntu software hub.

Finishing this look over the distro, we can conclude that it is a simple, clean, beautiful distribution that tries to catch the user giving a very maquero style, but that suffers from three quite annoying things:

  • Somewhat old software packages that require the use of PPA, both in Kernel and in MESA, as well as in basic Libreoffice-like applications.
  • Libmutter 3.4 is not as polished as 3.8, which gives a somewhat lower graphics performance than it could if it were based on something more up-to-date.
  • The applications are too simple and lack things that many believe are essential.

Final note:

6 final match.

Very little for more than a year and a half of development.


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  1.   elav said

    Fuck! You got ahead of me 🙂

    However, the Review is very good to be just a taste. I agree with you that things that are too simple can be annoying. You mention Geary (which by the way is a shame that it does not have POP3 support), but the same thing happens with the File Manager. I really miss being able to search for documents and others from the same application, what's more, I don't remember that eOS has a tool for it.

    The calendar is cool, but it has a problem (at least the last time I tried it), it doesn't notify you of your events, so if you don't open it, you don't find out about anything.

    Midori still has something that I don't like. And I don't know in the stable version, but in the Beta when I tested it, I didn't like that the modal dialogs are or have the same style as in GNOME.

    Outside of this, it is a highly recommended distribution for new users. By the way, your last assessment has given me an idea 😛

  2.   Yoyo said

    My opinion is summed up very well in Franchesco's last sentence:

    «Very little for more than a year and a half of development»

    My congratulations to the Elementary Team but ultimately, we already knew what was out there and we were not surprised by this launch.

    A greeting.

    1.    Javier Fernandez said

      I was a little disappointed after the first impression, I had a lot of expectations with this distro, but as a whole I like it for my friends / clients who do not know anything about computers, the better the simpler, well openbox would not be for them although it would be for me. 🙂

  3.   ejmalfatti said

    It is so simple, so simple, that there is "something" missing. For me they are small details, that have been left aside, that does not make it functional for me. But I really liked its aesthetics, but even so it is not functional, as if it can be Manjaro XFCE.

  4.   Density said

    What bothers me the most is that you cannot add keyboard shortcuts, only modify the already preset ones.

    For the rest, it is quite good and it goes really fast, really, a joy compared to Unity, Kde or even Xfce. For that alone it is already worth using.

    As for applications there is not much problem, they are all installed without difficulty.

    Simplicity, speed and an incomparable visual style.

    8/10

    1.    msx said

      Stop and the minimize button !?
      It's fine that sometimes you minimize from the panel icon but if you have the mouse at the top of the screen it's torture, you have to go all the way down to minimize the window !?

      It is beautiful, it is well integrated and for someone like my sister who uses the machine in a very light way it fits perfectly, but we are left "hungry": Maya (the calendar) does not synchronize with Google Calendar or with another service ... o_O When you access your data in the cloud in different ways, it is imperative to have everything synchronized (in my case the smartphone, the laptop at home and the desktop at work), the desktop is not going to die but the Cloud simplifies our lives a lot.

      It also continues to have the same problem with the Ubuntus / Debian: being a cyclical release, it is full of old apps (GIMP 2.6? Come on people, I use 2.8.1 a lot and it has many improvements that do not exist in the Precise / GIMP elementaryOS). What Francesco says about PPAs is exactly what distanced me from Ubuntu, when you start to change parts of the system it becomes unstable and the update is a lottery.

      elementaryOS is very nice, yes, but the oversimplification of some features flattens it too much.

      I agree on the score 6/10

      1.    elav said

        The excuse for the Minimize button is that applications are supposedly opening and closing so quickly that opening and closing has the same effect as minimizing. It is true that you can minimize directly on the dock icon, but come on ...

        1.    Nicot said

          install elementary tweaks and holy remedy. you go up one more point ...

      2.    jamin samuel said

        STRONGLY AGREE

      3.    xxmlud said

        Here is a link for you to add the minimize button.
        http://www.linuxinicio.com.ar/2013/05/agregar-boton-de-minimizar-en.html
        I hope it is not spam.
        regards

  5.   pepE (@valdezpepe) said

    For those who are testing to see if they stay in this distribution, I recommend going through: http://www.elementaryupdate.com/ where you can install the elementaryOS community PPA with which you can install Elementary Tweak, Wingpanel Slim and various themes to customize it among other things ...

    1.    xxmlud said

      Thanks for the Web, I did not know it, it should be put in the post itself. As much as the minimize button is added.
      Greetings and Thanks

  6.   Richr said

    very good post they have made me save space on my hard drive. 🙂

    it would be nice a review of solydxk in its kde version would be greatly appreciated

  7.   babel said

    I have had a complex relationship with elementary, from loving it to hating it. My criticism has always focused on the lack of customization (icons, mouse themes, GTK themes, etc.) because I think that, among other things, that is what Linux is all about: making the desktop your own; however, the careful aesthetics makes me want to use it, although the distro is clearly more aimed at novice users than old sea lions like me.

  8.   pandev92 said

    Right now I ran into the problem that if I try to install skype, it wants to erase the entire desktop environment ...

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      Use DPKG (if it includes a console, of course), and thus avoid sending the entire desktop to the devil.

    2.    Javier Fernandez said

      Well, I have installed it without any problem.

      1.    pandev92 said

        And I, after fixing how bad the repositories were in my sources.list .., for some reason the ubuntu repositories were duplicated.

  9.   Patrick said

    The truth was I was very excited when I saw that eOS had already been released, I also really liked that they made a review so quickly, now, I have a couple of doubts:
    1) What version of Ubuntu is it based on?
    2) I use Ubuntu a lot (at home and at work). Do you recommend switching from Ubuntu to eOS?

    Greetings great, Patricio.

    1.    elav said

      1- About version 12.04 🙂
      2- For me yes.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        1.- Better continue with Wheezy and use Ubuntu Server.

        2.- It could be that I pull the Elementary Shell PPA and thus let my GNOME Fallback rest.

    2.    pandev92 said

      Something that stands out is how successful the integration of the qt is with the elementary theme, that was very good.

  10.   Felipe said

    I don't like that it is based on gnome3, although it looks much better than gnome3. If they had been based on capable kde it would install it ... xd.

  11.   JESUS ​​8) said

    Regarding Midori and Flash, I would like to comment that it must be activated in the EXTENSIONS options.

    From what you say, if you had it installed and you couldn't see videos or flash animations in Midori, then it is because you had not marked it as active in the EXTENSIONS preferences.

    I recommend that you give this magnificent browser a try. Very light, simple and very fast. 😉

    1.    pandev92 said

      It is marked and I followed the post http://www.elementaryupdate.com/2013/05/flash-in-midori-web-browser.html

      But I get an error and it doesn't work.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        I better put Iceweasel on it to avoid problems displaying HTML5 videos.

  12.   jamin samuel said

    Based on Lubuntu ??? So are you saying that it is based on LXDE?

    Well I totally differ ... Elementary is not based on LXDE, in fact it has a Shell on top of Gnome 3.4 called "Pantheon" and along with it a series of applications developed by Elementary developers .. But it is still Gnome 3.4 with new clothes.

    And well, if one of the things that disappointed me was how outdated it is in terms of packages ... a kernel 3.2 a libreoffice 3.5 huy no no no ....

    The only solution that remains is to have the ppas to make it good, so what is the point of using a ppas to use a kernel or a package in its most recent version when there is an Ubuntu 13.04 with the updated package?

    In short ... People use elementary for the visual not for the technical, because it seems ridiculous to use a ppa to have a more current package when you can easily install a Lu, Xu, Ku, Ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 (if it is very in a hurry) and enjoy the current Linux world

    1.    jamin samuel said

      Elementary OS is the dream of every Linux child…. that your system resembles as much as possible Mountais Lion OS X

      1.    cat said

        No

        1.    jamin samuel said

          NO?

          pufff ajajaj tell it to the chorrera of people who installed this distro just because it visually resembles the MAC

          1.    eliotime3000 said

            Well, my ex loved GNOME 3 fallback and was really dying of envy to realize how simple Debian GNOMe 3.4 was.

    2.    Juanra said

      Um ... he said he was using the Lubuntu distro not that eOS is based on Lubuntu

      1.    jamin samuel said

        It is true !! I had not noticed ... I read very quickly and understood that he was saying that elementary was based on Lubuntu xD ahahahaha

        sorry !!

        And because Lubuntu (in my opinion) is the most stable flavor of the Ubuntu family, there are no problems at all

        1.    pandev92 said

          ok forgiven ahahaha!

    3.    pandev92 said

      Have you read the article XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD? I said I was using lubuntu…, not that elementary is based on lubuntu.

      1.    jamin samuel said

        xD

      2.    jamin samuel said

        By the way no one uses the User Agent like before….

        I only see the empty chrome logos with Tux next to it xD

        1.    pandev92 said

          Ahaha in the end people got tired of editing the user agent XD

          1.    jamin samuel said

            Yes, and at the end of the day that extension that they showed there for Chrome works fine, the only bad thing is that when you open Gmail it does not open it, so you have to deactivate the extension to be able to enter your email account ahahahahaha

            I prefer to stay like this ...

            Although there should be a better option here on the site where you can graphically select the distro that you want to appear in the user agent

    4.    cooper15 said

      No, it didn't say anywhere that it was based on LXDE. On the other hand Ubuntu 12.04 is LTS which gives it some stability, in fact I think that its packaging is quite similar to the current Wheezy, however this fact does not deprive us of wanting to install newer packages, either out of necessity or due to versionitis , The fact is that for that there are ppas or backports respectively, which provide you with new packages without having to sacrifice stability, especially if you have a productive environment

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        Debian Wheezy is more flexible in terms of new packages (except in the case of installing Steam, of course).

  13.   fenriz07 said

    Good article"

  14.   diazepam said

    I also want to add that Sabayon 13.08 was also released
    http://www.sabayon.org/release/press-release-sabayon-1308

    It comes with kernel 3.10.4, GNOME 3.8.4, KDE 4.10.5, MATE 1.6.2, Xfce 4.10, LibreOffice 4.1, systemd as default initialization, fixes with the UEFIBoot, etc.

  15.   rots87 said

    The mail client reminds me of Thunderbird only simpler hehehe

  16.   msx said

    How come you can't change the amount of translucent in Terminal without going through elementaryupdate.com !?

    I'm fine with giving a distribution-specific twist, but _ taking away the ability to customize the system_ for advanced users is bullshit.

  17.   blackbird said

    I think Xfce runs faster and smoother than Elementary, at least on Manjaro and Debian which is what I use. It seems to me that this distro brings design and very little else. The one I would recommend for new users is Voyager = http://voyager.legtux.org/ , based on Xubuntu, apart from being very beautiful, it is very useful and functional, which elementary does not seem to me.
    The impression that it has given me is that it is like an industrial product, very well packaged and attractive, but after use it is very disappointing.

    regards

  18.   majority said

    As I said in other posts, I will give this system a chance, it looks beautiful and very careful in its visual style. I will uninstall linux mint 15 and install elementary os.

  19.   irvandoval said

    distro to show a novel how beautiful linux can look verse

  20.   elav said

    I think the only thing that ElementaryOS is missing to be a copy of OSX as God intended is the toolbar in the upper panel 😀

    1.    blackbird said

      The question, in my view is ... why does it need to be a copy? Isn't GNU / Linux customizable and versatile enough to create a distribution with your own personality?

      1.    pandev92 said

        The answer is very simple, many people like (me too), the apple look 😛

        1.    blackbird said

          Yes, of course, that is undoubted. I also like some things about the appearance of a Mac, others not. As I like some details of Win7, and others not.

          The fact is that, between having an "air", or being inspired by a Mac, and being a copy goes a long way. Being a copy of something already made, without contributing anything, seems to me a tremendous lack of creativity.

          And the case of this distro, is that almost the only thing that contributes is that, the design, in everything else, very little more the truth.

          1.    kirl said

            It is not so bad either, the visual aspect of eOS gives an air of MAC OS X, but it is far from similar.

            The top bar has nothing to do with it, neither do the icons, the maximize, close icons, well, I can continue and not finish.

  21.   sanhuesoft said

    With so much creativity they could have created a desktop environment (like Gnome, with its own applications and so on), and the result would have been much better.

    1.    pandev92 said

      You would have had it stable for 2017 xD

    2.    elruiz1993 said

      Elementary has its own applications: Noise, Pantheon-Files, Scratch, Maya, Pantheon-Terminal and others, plus Midori and Geary are attached to the Elementary team, so it is not only appearance but they are really putting a lot into it.

  22.   Yoyo said

    The truth is, and I did not say it before, is that it shits me that a distro or Shell does not bring the 3 buttons in the windows with what permission or moral authority have these of Elementary or Gnome Shell removed them?

    Doesn't Mac OS X, Windows, KDE, Xfce, Cinnamon etc still have the 3 buttons on the windows?

    Nothing more than that, because the 3 buttons are not included as standard, I no longer want Elementary or Gnome Shell, and don't tell me that it gets on a pee, I know, what I'm saying is that you don't have to take them off .

    I said.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      Even my GNOME 3.4 Fallback has three buttons. What a laziness that of the Elemantary OS developers.

    2.    vicky said

      Puff yes !! Going to Tweaks and choosing the button layout is time consuming….

      1.    Nicot said

        It's not for everyone ... these from elementary are crazy!

  23.   Charlie E Liarson said

    Even with the defects of the applications, the system seems perfect to me, I am delighted with it. The bugs and lack of details in the applications, I consider it an inspiration for programming. I really consider it the best desk for laptops and for the home, and for work it's not bad at all. It is stable, fast, simple, light, clean and beautiful. I think I will be very happy with Elementary OS for the remainder of the year and into 2014.

  24.   Jose said

    Obviously, it cannot be liked by everyone. It seems to me an effort that must be applauded: to get a desktop that they have decided on, above all simple, but in a distribution that for a "normal" user is more than enough. There is something to be polished, but they have achieved their own style… .. what distribution, except Ubuntu, can say the same ?. The fault is that they have started the house on the roof, reasonably relying on a somewhat outdated Ubuntu base already (if it had come out on a par with that one, it would not be reproachful). The important thing is that the hardest thing is done. Now only users are missing (it will be one of the recommendations in my environment) and to go polishing and improving things. Perhaps in the not too distant future it can be based on Arch or Debian Testing. I guess they have played it safe based on that version of Ubuntu. Luck.

    For my part, if there was some kind of quick switch to switch to pure Gnome Shell for convenience, I would use it for sure. The future will tell, but not at all. The Gnome 3 new application suite is more robust.

  25.   Jose said

    For me the effort of a distribution to achieve a perfectly integrated environment should be fundamental. That each and every one of the system icons and the applications match and not clash and are all on your site is an odyssey that the user has to work on. And it shouldn't be like that. That's why I like Gnome, because it seems to me to be the one that best allows it and along the way, with a series of perfectly integrated applications…. and that's why I would bet on my own distro. I don't know about you…. but it bothers me that, no matter how good the icon pack is, you always find someone who sings…. or browsing the guts of the distro to find icons from another era version after version. Not even Windows takes care of this. Apple quality point.

    1.    msx said

      «For me the effort of a distribution to achieve a perfectly integrated environment should be fundamental. That each and every one of the icons of the system and of the applications match and not clash and are all in their place is an odyssey that the user has to work on. »
      I agree, it is one of the reasons that always screwed me about the GNU + Linux distros, which, being developed by coders, don't care how they look, in this aspect and in the integration between applications (Granite, etc.) is where distribution really shines.

      As long as they do it on Arch or Debian it may not be important, if I am not mistaken in Arch _they really want the elementary desktop_ and the only thing they were waiting to port it completely was for it to reach its stable condition, I don't know how they will do to Deal with the GTK3 dependencies of different versions but if they can make it work it's a great goal 😀

    2.    kirl said

      +1

  26.   pavloco said

    I like the initiative. They try to separate themselves from the "business as usual" in Linux distros, but it is clear that they are more designers than programmers.

  27.   eliotime3000 said

    Very good, although it does not outdate gNewSense, that its latest version is based on Debian Squeeze.

    In the same way, it is the most massive and elegant shell I have seen so far, although I choose to continue using the fallback of my GNOME 3.4 that I have in Wheezy.

  28.   eliotime3000 said

    That's nothing. The GNOME 3.8 / 3.10 Nautilus is the one I hate the most, since I can't use the menu bar that allows me to go to more advanced options.

    For the 3 button, I sincerely support you.

  29.   cat said

    I have never liked this distro, but I still wish it luck and hope it brings people closer to the Linux world as well as Ubuntu.

  30.   Charlie E Liarson said

    Guys, me, if I'm honest, in my opinion Elementary OS Luna, is what I expected with Ubuntu 10.04 ... instead of Unity. Unity, it's fine ... if you have a good computer, powerful and up to date ... but if your computer is medium or low gamma, pf ... no comment.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      Many complain about how outdated their included programs are, but if we compare it with gNewSense, many will withdraw what was said since the new version of that distro is based on Debian Squeeze, so that is nothing.

  31.   vicky said

    The environment itself is quite stable.
    What generally fails are some applications. The file browser still lacks a bit (although it has improved a lot).

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      At least the file browser has a bit more stuff than the current GNOME 3.10 Nautilus.

      1.    entel said

        But can Nautilus carry less stuff? In Gnome 3.8 I had to replace it with Nemo because nothing could be done with it.

        Where is Dolphin….

        As for Elementary, it is very beautiful and simple but to use it I install Ubuntu or variants of it and I get the same effect by changing fonts, icons, theme and a dock.

        1.    pandev92 said

          I don't know, I prefer a lot more mutter to compiz .., just for that reason I would not install ubuntu.

        2.    eliotime3000 said

          I use GNOME 3.4 fallback which came to me in Debian Wheezy, and the Nautilus is still useful.

  32.   Mr Black said

    I think that the appearance of this type of distros, focused mainly on the "user experience" (elementary, chakra, etc) shows that the base (kernel, libraries, etc.) of Gnu / Linux is sufficiently developed for some to be Dedicate only to the "superficial", I see it as a very positive sign, the ecosystem is in very good health. Regards.

  33.   David said

    Clarify some issues that have come out:
    -The distribution is more basic than the developers want, but better to start small and grow than to try to develop a giant and never finish. -With regard to the article, Geary the mail program is developed by Yorba, not the developers of Elementary. The search is scheduled for the next version of the program, but they are going at their own pace.
    -The developers know that the libraries are old, they don't hide that they like Arch and some of them also contribute to Arch.
    -Now it has been widely criticized for being simple, but it is a base, the next one will be better and in a year or two Ubuntu will shake.

    1.    elav said

      Interesting Do you like Arch? How nice would it be if they made a Elementary as Manjaro, that is, about Arch but with an easy installer and others 😀

      1.    msx said

        … For all of you, exclusive words from a Debian who has seen the light, brother! xD

        I'm going to make a painting with that phrase of yours 😀

        1.    elav said

          HAHAHAJAJAJAJAJAJA ...

      2.    eliotime3000 said

        If Arch developers make a form-style installer like OpenBSD, it would all the more reason to install Arch. At the moment, I'm still experimenting with the virtual machine.

        1.    pandev92 said
    2.    pandev92 said

      they go at their own pace

      I do not dispute that ..., at a snail rate xD

    3.    pandev92 said

      A year or two that ubunut trembles ..., the truth, even without being an ubuntu user and seeing that ubuntu pulls towards mir and the new unity, I doubt that this distro can surpass Ubuntu, it will be another more beautiful linux mint but nothing more.

  34.   Carlos said

    I have been using it for 4 days and so far everything is working very well. I miss it and as far as I know the proprietary drivers have to work better than the free ones but in this distro the opposite and that pleases me 🙂

    1.    kirl said

      It happens to me the same as you, the proprietary drivers are fatal to me, on the other hand the free ones are fine.

  35.   Vladimir said

    «First of all we find a Desktop Environment, clean, beautiful and simple, very similar to that of Mac OSX.
    So far everything nice on the live cd, until you realize that your hardware is not well supported by Kernel 3.2 and table 8, so I started to install the distro and then use xorg edgers ppa to have the last table, and Kernel 3.11 from the Ubuntu Kernels ppa. »

    Apply those 2 simple steps and the result is incredible ... the system flies ... FLIES ... of course, I made some adjustments, removing some effects, etc ...

  36.   Bee said

    I have been running Debian for more than 5 years (always stable), but on the laptop I was running a little slow (gnome shell) so I decided to try it to see how it behaves and the truth is that I liked it a lot, both for the speed, how light it is and how careful the interface is. Now install it on the PC, let's see if it is final.

    PS: what I can't find is how to edit the Applications menu, like deleting or changing a program category, if anyone knows….

  37.   msx said

    In my case, I didn't need to change kernel or video stack, although I could try updating them to see what happens.

    Now what I do consider essential for everyday use is to add these PPAs:

    [Code]
    j: 0 ~> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
    birdie-team-stable-precise.list elementary.list.save loneowais-fogger-precise.list patches.list.save versable-elementary-update-precise.list.save
    birdie-team-stable-precise.list.save erasmo-marin-photo-daily-builds-precise.list loneowais-fogger-precise.list.save sgringwe-rdio-precise.list webupd8team-tribler-precise.list
    caffeine-developers-ppa-precise.list erasmo-marin-foto-daily-builds-precise.list.save nilarimogard-webupd8-precise.list sgringwe-rdio-precise.list.save webupd8team-tribler-precise.list.save
    caffeine-developers-ppa-precise.list.save google-chrome.list nilarimogard-webupd8-precise.list.save shnatsel-dnscrypt-precise.list webupd8team-y-ppa-manager-precise.list
    cassou-emacs-precise.list google-chrome.list.save nuvola-player-builders-stable-precise.list tombeckmann-ppa-precise.list webupd8team-y-ppa-manager-precise.list.save
    cassou-emacs-precise.list.save inkscape_dev-stable-precise.list nuvola-player-builders-stable-precise.list.save tombeckmann-ppa-precise.list.save
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    With that and all eOS doesn't have a decent image viewer and I had to install Gwenview - sucks…

    1.    Bee said

      The first thing I did when I installed it is to remove the programs that it comes with by default and put the vlc, chrome, synaptic, thunderbird, dolphin and Libreoffice 4 and the truth is that I am more than satisfied

      1.    msx said

        Among many things, it lacks a window manager that allows to remember the previous position and size of the different open application windows.

        I repeat: there is no file viewer that allows you to change the graphic files, for this you have to use GIMP, which is equivalent to killing a fly with a hammer.
        Another alternative is to use the command line (imagemagik, etc.) but of course, it goes directly against the philosophy of use and target of eOS users.

        Files looks more like Alpha than green and, in all honesty, Dolphin shows its full potential when used with the Nepomuk integration - although without such integration it is still the best graphical file manager on any platform.

        Another intrinsic problem of the GNOME or eOS window manager: when we add a bookmark in Chrome / Chromium, as the system does not remember the size of the windows, you have to expand the bookmarks window by hand every time, a bitch.

        Audience: aims to replace Totem with its clean interface but does not have even a fifth of its functionality - again oversimplification works against.
        The KDE SC approach is infinitely more practical: «we give you a trillion possibilities (ok, maybe not so many), you configure the interface as you please» so that if someone prefers a minimalist interface they can have it without losing the power of the application, in eOS they directly remove the features for the sake of a 'necessary' simplification - not for nothing elementary Tweaks comes to solve some of these shortcomings.

        An example of oversimplification is Shotwell: it works as the default graphics file viewer, it has tons of complex options but not the one to resize an image - Yorba, they suck !!!

        Pantheon Terminal: Oversimplified terminal. Why reinvent the wheel when you can surely use GNOME or Xfce? On top of that, being a new development, there is no possibility of easily changing the colors, level of transparency or being able to subdivide the screen into several terminals such as Yakuake or Terminator.
        Yes, colors can be changed using dconf in a less than stupid way: https://gist.github.com/davidgomes/5162998

        The idea of ​​eOS is interesting, the system is effectively light and that draws a lot of attention being based on Ubuntu, it has good ideas (Wingpanel, Gazette) but it still needs to mature and as many say it is aimed at non-computer users.

        1.    Bee said

          In my case, as an image viewer, I use gthumb, I modified the transparencies of the terminal from dconf, the elementary Tweaks never worked for me, perhaps because I uninstalled Pantheon Files, something that I shouldn't, the truth is that I don't need it for now touching some other file and everything is as I like

  38.   jesus jimenez said

    hello friends, I started with linux with the fedora 14 distro and stayed until 17 after that I had many problems with my graphics card and a lot of slowness, after that I decided to try ubuntu and no, it was a mistake, I better move on to windows 7. Now I return to linux with fedora 19 and no, the effects are too slow and that affects me, printer problems that after several attempts to install I could print. I'm going to Ubuntu 13.04 and it goes fast and I like it but watching videos I see this distro Elementary os luna, it was in beta and the day I downloaded it, which was at dawn, it was already stable. I installed it and it did not give me graphics card problems, it was easy to install adobe flash player and I saw that the midori browser for 64 bits did not work to watch videos and now I like it, I watch videos, I customize the system, I do jobs and everything is very fast, I will not say that it is the best, but the OS still lacks a lot but for now I'm doing very well. I hope and improve, greetings comrades.

  39.   4ZhaGratH said

    Hello, I have my elementary installed and I am quite satisfied, but someone can explain to me how to add the ppa to update the kernel

    greetings and thanks

    1.    pandev92 said

      It is not a ppa, if you have to go to the ubuntu mainline kernel, find the daily section, and download the kernel files headers generic, amd64 and kernel generic etc and then install them 1 by 1

  40.   maiko said

    I, an end user ... newbie to linux, I simply say ... deeply grateful for the great effort, time and dedication that people like the guys from this and any distro spend maybe without any monetary compensation, trying to make linux something attractive and functional for ordinary people… but I also see how so many people CRITICIZE and LOW their work; instead of THANKING and HIGHLIGHTING the many good things that their Systems have, that in the end, like 95% or more, or perhaps no one is capable of taking out a few bills to CONTRIBUTE to this type of effort ... and as I said at the beginning even in my novice linux vision and with all the ignorance on the subject I can only say «How beautiful is Elementary !! The latest from Manjaro is spectacular !!, »Very comfortable cinnamon with Linux Mint !! Debian is Debian !!! my favorite distro !! or what anyone can say about their distro ... instead of screaming like babes or complaining so much about the nefarious profession of looking for defects !! if it were as constructive criticism then welcome all! but how good it would be to help these people either in the code to improve the product or etc ... When that day arrives I think that Linux would be, regardless of the number of distros, the operating system perfected by its own community ... This is my comment about it.

  41.   paul honorato said

    There was not a single distro that worked on my notebook, some would install but after a restart / shutdown the graphical environment would go away, lots of kernel panics, on others I couldn't even start. With elementary it was the opposite, everything worked the first time, very stable and you can work with it. I installed netbeans, geany, gdebi, virtualbox, chromium, libreoffice and I thought that this would break the installation, but no. Everything as it should be.

  42.   Leonardo said

    Hello, I have installed it and I love it, elegant, light, fast, the only "bad" thing is to install all the applications you need, and something that if it bothers me a bit, is that you connect a pendrive or external disk via USB and It does not mount it automatically, otherwise it works perfect, ahhh and I had to do a manual update so that it would detect my phone

  43.   Carlos said

    I love this distro. I have a xubuntu + compiz partition, in another LMDE and when using eOs I really feel that the machine flies. It is very useful when you need to work and get things done quickly. Of course it lacks things that one misses, but I hope that with everyone's support, this project will grow, in my opinion, the best distro I have tested in terms of the performance of my Notebook (TM2, i3, 4MBRAM)

  44.   LEGOLAS said

    Esteemed Linuxeros
    Hello everyone. First of all, thank you for this site that broadened my perspective on Elementary OS Luna. I have always been a full user of windows since I work with professional software that perhaps due to lack of knowledge or resistance to change or because of objective reality, I have thought that they bring me limitations when working. However, I am a lover of a cozy workspace because when I open my PC, which would be the beginning of my work, I am of the opinion that the first thing I see before my eyes has to create a pleasant affection for the vision and the mood. From what I've read here, Elementary OS Luna would be like a godsend about it and I'd like to give it a try. I have some doubts about how to handle the pc drivers when installing the OS since I see that nobody has touched the subject. If someone can help me in this or anything else related to the subject, I would be very happy about it. Remember that I have never worked in the world of GNU / Linux and that I want to take Elementary OS Luna as a starting line.