FSF statement regarding the new iPhone, Apple Pay, and Apple Watch

As it is known by most on September 9, 2014 Apple showed its new range of products iPhone 6, 6+, Apple Pay and Apple Watch. The Free Software Foundation [FSF] made a statement about it:

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FSF Statement Regarding the New iPhone, Apple Pay, and Apple Watch by Free Software Foundation

Posted Sep 9, 2014 02:14 PM

La FSF encourages users to avoid all Apple products, in the interest of their own freedom and the freedom of those around them.

Today [9/9/2014], Apple announced new models of the iPhone, a smart watch, and a payment service. In response the CEO John sullivan I make the following statement:

¨It's dazzling to see so much press technology acting like Apple's marketing extension. What is on display today is complicity in hiding the broadcast of the most important announcement - Apple's continuing war against individual computing freedom - and for the extension of freedom of expression, association, privacy and technological innovation.

Every criticism that does not mention Apple's insistence on using the Digital Restriction Management (DRM) to block the devices and applications they sell, is doing a disservice to their subscribers, and is a blow to the development of a digitally free society that we currently need. Anyone who talks about technical specifications without first exposing the unethical fabric these products produce is helping to lead people down a path that ends in complete digital disempowerment.

Keep a count on how many reviews today mention that Apple threatens anyone who dares to try to install any other operating system such as Android on their phone, or faces a criminal trial under the protection of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Count how many criticisms mention that Apple devices do not allow the installation of any application that is not approved, threatening again with jail time if you try to do this without the blessing of Apple, how many of these criticisms highlight that Apple uses software patents and an army of lawyers to attack those who develop a computing environment freer than theirs.

We've seen several examples since the last product Apple announced, the times when smartphones and other equipment have been used for political activism and free speech. We have also seen several examples of times when those expressions have been censored. If we continue to allow Apple this kind of digital control, censorship and “free speech zones” it will become the permanent norm.

There's a reason the inventor of America's first in-house programmable computer rejects Apple devices as the antithesis of the life forms of creativity. But it is not enough just to say “Don't buy their products ". The laws that Apple and others use to enforce their digital restrictions, giving them a competitive advantage over subsidized products that respect user freedom, should be repealed.

At least the watch ended up having a detachable clasp - we were concerned with this.

We urge users to investigate ways to support the use of mobile and portable devices that do not restrict the essential freedoms of users. Such projects include Repeat, an Android-based free software fork, and F-Droid, a repository of free software applications exclusively for Android. People should also let know Tim Cook at Apple how they feel.¨

I do not consider myself a "Taliban" of Free Software, or in other words, I am not one of the most "purists". I was a very happy Opera user until they abandoned their engine, not really caring much if it was 100% SWL or not, Android is not 100% SWL (nor is it SDK) and still love it.

Where I want to get to is that ... one thing is not to be an "extremist", and quite another is to give away your freedom as you want. Apple does not respect any freedom, if you buy a device from them for an amazing price (and not in the positive sense) almost that is NOT actually yours, it is "leased", because you pay a huge amount of money for a completely overvalued device and Still, you can't do what you want.

And that is another point, the price ... it is incredible that the iPhone 6 costs so much money and is a hardware almost that of 2 years ago ... come on, incredible ¬_¬ ...

Anyway, what do you think about this?

PS: Source of the translation humans.


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  1.   eliotime3000 said

    It is not for being a taliban, but at least Google has in the account preferences the info in which it has scanned you (even your browsing history). That is insanely useful even when you missed the web page you wanted to put up when writing an article.

    And last but not least, Gizmodo shows that Apple is a haters charming.

    Besides, has Apple already put two buttons (left and right click) on the touchpad of your MacBooks or your mice? Because I can't stand having a mouse click, and even less so, with such a mediocre scroll.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      And doing Off-Topic, here comes the news that the Debian Team and the FSF come together for users to learn how to choose the hardware they need.

  2.   Staff said

    Offtopic
    Using terms, such as those in quotation marks, takes a lot of seriousness from the site, just see how the most professional sites in the field do not.
    Perhaps because a page whose slogan appears with the word "freedom" and marks those who practice it as "Taliban" does not sound very congruent.
    You cannot be "extreme" if what you do is follow the norm. Although following that rule is not common.
    And it is that we like it or not when owning a site forms opinion among your readers, so you have to take care of the forms. You have one of the richest languages, Spanish, there are thousands of ways to say the same without promoting pejorative stereotypes.

    On Topic
    The world's best-selling phone is unfortunately the obvious target for those who like espionage and control (Today we have evidence, even officials that prove that this is not a conspiracy idea) in consumer societies.

    1.    roader said

      Rather, they do it to prevent people from being offended. But it seems that you can never please everyone.

      1.    Staff said

        I reiterate my comment, if what is intended is not to offend anyone, then pejorative stereotypes should not be generated to any group.
        Look at any specialized medium with a certain degree of professionalism (From any medium, not just computing) and see if they generate distinction among their readers through labels. Not even in the most tendencies it is seen.
        I can't imagine a CNN newscast ...

        -And in international news:
        A group of "extremist Sudacas" demonstrates in the capital city square to demand a change in the cabinet of "thieves" who accompany the senator, candidate for the party of the "Reds", as always, the same group of " crybabies »...
        We put it in quotes so that NAAAADIE is offended, and now in sports….

    2.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

      If I put them in quotation marks, I read this comment, that if it reduces the seriousness of the site and so on ... however, if I put them without the quotes, I will read comments from users who feel offended, that if «I don't use proprietary codecs and that doesn't make me be a Taliban or an extremist ”… and the like.

      As you can see, there will always be someone who will comment on their disagreement with the post, the information, or my way of putting it ... incredible come on ...

      1.    Staff said

        If they are offended with the quotation marks, and without the quotation marks they are offended… Mhh «You don't have to be a genius» (in reference to the commercials from Samsung) to see that perhaps the quotation marks are the least of it, and the FORMS are the problem, try not to use those words and you will see how no one is offended.

      2.    elav said

        Staff: The problem here is not the quotes, it's the comments (offtopic or not) that contribute nothing and only create unnecessary controversy. If you have any suggestions for the author of a post, or an Admin of DesdeLinux, the communication routes are in the link to US » https://blog.desdelinux.net/nosotros/

      3.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

        Yes, so I should not put words like extremist, Taliban, or whatever it is that alludes to the degree of commitment, use, acceptance or fanaticism (in a good way) that someone has regarding the SWL ... interesting ...

        Come on man!

        Here we are all older, if someone wants to feel offended because I say something like:
        It is one thing to be an «extremist» and another to give away our freedom to anyone ... «- referring to the fact that although there are users who prefer not to use proprietary codecs or non-free drivers and others, yes, one thing is that level or decision and another is very different it is simply giving ourselves to Apple with all that that means.

        Well, it's honestly because:
        - You want to be offended, just like that
        - You have a bad day and react to anything that bothers you just a little
        - Try to touch the balls a little 😉

        By the way, it is not the same thing about "reds" or "sudacas", because these are directly ways to offend or belittle someone.

        I sometimes call some people extremists or Taliban (like Stallman we go) who want to be more purists than anyone, you know ... purists because they decide to use pure SWL, extremists because they go to the extreme, in the end ... 100% SWL and 0% proprietary. They are completely valid adjectives come on, I do not understand where the problem can actually be.

        Even at times I have been called directly a fanatic, extremist and Taliban, and I have not been bothered by that nor have I been beaten, I do not even take the adjective seriously to refer to me.

      4.    yukiteru said

        @Staff the truth is that:

        1.- With quotes they are offended.
        2.- Without quotes they are offended.
        3.- Without using "those words" they are offended, but if you use them without the previous ones it is worse.

        Anyway, there will always be a complaint about a post, for X or Y reasons, because each head is a world, and many of them are a complete disaster.

      5.    Staff said

        @Elav
        Let me use your words ...
        "The problem here is not the quotes, they are the TERMS (offtopic or not) IN THE ARTICLE that do not add anything and only create unnecessary controversy."
        So that such? Why, what does tagging people bring?

      6.    Staff said

        We begin by clarifying that I am not offended, I have already said it here on several occasions, I do not take personal anything that I read on the monitor.

        But when writing an article visible around the world you have a certain degree of responsibility.
        For example, in the country where I live, the term "black" does not have a culturally entrenched racist connotation. But I can't even use it to refer to a friend who is so called if I am writing something that can be read by people from another country that a label like that can hurt.

        So if you think that:
        Well, it's honestly because:
        - You want to be offended, just like that
        - You have a bad day and react to anything that bothers you just a little
        - Try to touch the balls a little;) »
        Maybe the one with thin skin and takes it personal is you.

        With this, I hope it is clear that, I am not saying that you want to offend anyone.
        Rather, using those terms is incorrect from an editorial point of view.
        Look for any reputable media and see if their articles appear voices like that, quoted or not.

      7.    elav said

        @Elav
        Let me use your words ...
        "The problem here is not the quotes, they are the TERMS (offtopic or not) IN THE ARTICLE that do not contribute anything and only create unnecessary controversy."
        So that such? Why, what does tagging people bring?

        The thing is that at no time has anyone specifically been tagged. However, I repeat, if you want to question the terms, the forms, or whatever with respect to work in DesdeLinux, I already gave you the link to the contact links of each of us.

    3.    Staff said

      @elav
      And who said that the labels are particular?
      You can perfectly label a GROUP (Which is made up of PEOPLE) or generalize, and have the same result.

      I think another point to consider is that comments are a perfectly valid medium for feedback on a blog.

      1.    elav said

        Staff In what language do I have to ask you? In Russian? Я. только писать комментарии, которые не имеют ничего общего с темой поста .. or do you prefer it in Turkish? Sadece yazının konu ile ilgisi olmayan yorumlarınızı yazabilirsiniz ..

      2.    moony said

        Che, piece of human being ... each one responds and puts together an article as they sing. Stop calling attention to how you think it should respond. This is a blog of good people and puts together articles as they can, want or like.
        What happens that you are envious that people who according to you write without stupid and more correct idioms are more read than you.
        Good night, piece of human being and why are you not going to look at "your emotional idioms" that are much more annoying than what you are trying to point out.

      3.    Staff said

        @alunado
        I could tell you that you do exactly the same thing that bothers you so much, projection psychologists call it.
        But I better explain to you what the difference is between you and me.
        I'm not trying to be the center of attention at all, my achievements are in my work and my person, here, on the internet, I don't use my real name, so any attention I get will never be for me.

        I have even written articles for this site, always aware that everything that is published is subject to criticism. in which I wrote for desdelinux I was criticized (not in a very good way) even for my writing, but I was not offended, I did not ask for respect, much less that I was contacted by email for complaints. On the contrary, I accepted my shortcomings as an editor and promised to try to improve.
        Regarding idioms I tell you that, at least in my country, in official government documents it is forbidden to use certain "stupid idioms" that can offend specific groups, and although the media do not have these prohibitions, they do not use them simply CRITERION.

  3.   elav said

    As I mentioned in humanOS:

    On the one hand, I don't think the FSF should waste time announcing things like this, first of all, because simply no one will listen to it. How many of you know that it really stops using proprietary codecs because Stallman says so?

    I was also able to see the launch of the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, and I must say that I was embarrassed. Apple has released two phones that, removing the processor and the camera, is now using technology from the year 2012… 1080p, NFC? please ... but hey, Android users know what I'm talking about.

  4.   santiago alessio said

    Apple was always the same, their products excessively expensive and they don't have much difference from the competition (only the obvious price) but they sell by the brand, because most of the people who do not understand anything about the technical aspect or technology in general is the one who buys it, someone who knows a little about the subject does not buy it. And it seems a bit exaggerated to me that the FSF comes out to say something that everyone (referring to people who are interested in free software and technology in general) know, apple always (in my opinion) was worse than microsoft, because it is a purely marketing company and it always was, but the people who buy its products are not on these pages and much less interested in the world of free software

  5.   Zironide said

    Personally, I do not like Apple at all, both for its price and its policy. The other day I read (I don't know how true it is) that the iPhone that costs us $ 800 to Apple costs $ 200 ... Good deal, right?

    Something that terrifies me, and that they did not comment on, was the Apple pay. Let a single company know who I speak to, what pages I enter, how many pounds of chicken I buy? That seems appalling to me. If Apple continues to do as it is, with the NSA behind it, we will be getting closer to the setting of "The Minority Report", by Philip K. Dick (very good book,), in which the police "predict" the future and arrest criminals before they commit crimes.

    Anyway, we have to wait and see where this roll ends.

  6.   patodx said

    I did not imagine that the FSF will speak of Apple so directly. I think that speaking once is fine, to leave the concern in the people who get the message. Now it is known that the commercial machinery of Apple is brutal, using these products is synonymous with social status. Here in Chile, Apple is taking more and more strength at the level of specific stores in shopping centers, I know people who really do not have significant income, but if they have it for an iPhone. In short, that everyone wants to use what they like, only that a balance must be reached where the privacy rights of the end user are respected mainly.

  7.   pears said

    Usually the users of GNU / Linux, and the defenders of free software in general, charge the ink against Microsoft, it was about time that this other company was criticized and censored, since its practices are the same or even worse than those of the giant of Redmon, to name a few: complicity with US security agencies to which they provide information without any prejudice from any of their users.
    And in the vein of what the FSF says, last week when the theft of photos of North American celebrities happened, news that I followed closely, it was embarrassing to see how the only newsletter that spoke clearly that the theft had occurred on iCloud was the A3 news program Complicity? Fear of possible lawsuits? Patronage? Excessive passion for the brand (Antonio G. Ferreras and if iPad ...)?
    But without a doubt the worst thing about this brand is its lack of ethics and critical sense, they go around suing "all christ" for plagiarism and patent infringement when the apple brand is what it is thanks to open source. That it would be Mac OS X without BSD, it would be years since the company would be finished, and it is not that it is a legal practice, which it is, but as we know that legal is not always moral and for me, and many other defenders of free software Taking an open source, improving it and instead of sharing it, restricting it is immoral to everyone.
    By the way, three or four years ago I bought a Mac Book Pro, I began to read all its licenses and three days later I returned it, when the clerk asked me what was wrong, I answered nothing, I simply did not like it, I was a defender free software and did not agree with the licensing system, he told me that it was the first time that a Mac had been returned to him and that it was almost better to put "defective" in the box to prevent the house from hitting me and giving me the "Pain in the ass" for a long time.

    1.    Carlos said

      If you're an advocate of free software, why the hell did you buy a Macbook Pro?

      1.    pears said

        Due to misinformation, I thought that being based on BSD it would be opensource; and I didn't buy it, I returned it.

  8.   French said

    For PC's I can think of a totally original software; VEGNUXNEONATOX; for mobiles; UbuntuPhone.
    For years I have seen the psychological profile of Stallman and his "Free Software Foundation," also the company of the late Steve Jobs.
    My basis on which I support my statements are:
    The FSF is the same as the EFF, ICANN, OSI, INTERNIC, IEEE, that is, international organizations that "PLURALIZE" telecommunications and technology standards in general, the ISOS "quality" certifications are also not saved.
    Testing: The FSF talks about freedom, however when a programmer uses a non-free language, like C ++ to optimize the GNU-TLS libraries, the foundation crosses it out.
    The EFF and its TOR project, talks about anonymity On-Line, and yet it is anything but that.
    ICCAN does not accept original COM domains, such as: mywebdeinformatica.CORP
    And so on ... from my point of view all technology regulatory bodies have been imposed by corporate global elites, linked to politics and diplomacy, and we follow those standards in universities =)
    On the other hand iPhone and other restrictive technology, symbolizes closed technological patents, among which are Android, Nokia, iPhone, to continue is to advertise them.
    Conclusion, the human being is not free to choose free software or proprietary software, because, how we see both are like the politics of left and right; a hoax.
    The only form of freedom I can think of is to use their technocratic power against themselves.
    Respects

    1.    elav said

      Ubuntu Phone lacks a lot of Apps. As long as it continues like this, you can never get ahead.

    2.    Staff said

      Your comment seems very accurate.
      But you have to see the difference between the FSF and the others from the point of view of their attributions, because if we are not equating, I don't know, green peace with UNICEF.
      Using your same examples:
      If ICCAN doesn't accept certain domains, no one can use them.
      If you want interoperability between devices you need the blessing of the IEEE.
      That is governing the EXTERIOR of the organization.
      The FSF rules INSIDE and only controls its projects, but if anyone wants to create C ++ bindigs they can take the code and do it (On their own) which is free for that.
      With the rest I completely agree, even the FSF is subordinate to what the large multinationals that control all kinds of technologies allow us to do with hardware.

      A few weeks ago in muylinux they asked the question, Who controls Open Source?

      This was my answer:

      “Those who control Open Source are the same as those who control proprietary software.

      But this control is not absolute, no matter how hard they try, they cannot impose only what they want, so they simply "make one thing fashionable" and then another, in an effort to delay as much as possible the day they lose their status. which is inevitable.

      It happens in art (music, movies, books) where they stick to their old ways of marketing.
      It happens in politics, in which nobody (regardless of the current or political system) wants to let go of their elitist lifestyle and they perpetuate aberrations such as monarchies, maintaining kings of adornment with the taxes of the people.
      Software, which is already part of human life, is not exempt from this situation, fortunately with free licenses, everything they program can be used against them :) »

    3.    Xerix said

      The questioning of "left and right" is stupid and ignorant.
      Such a classification terribly destroys the reasoning towards different branches of thought.

    4.    Liv said

      I didn't know that programming languages ​​were licensed. As far as I understand, the implementations of those languages ​​are the ones that can be licensed. If so, I would like you to publish a link that contains the legal information of said licensing system, which is something that I have been looking for and apparently a judge has already handed down a sentence on this matter.

  9.   Hugo said

    Amen …. They can start by eliminating the icloud, my brother died and left an iPhone 4s that cannot be used due to their selfish blocking, the cell phone was paid for but it belongs to them… I prefer android for its wide freedom.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      That is common in such devices. What you can do is: either download the iOS in firmware file format and open them with iTunes (previous connection made and a good bandwidth to download the blessed firmwares, of course). And as those from EsferaIphone say, don't use safari to download it if you are on a Mac with OSX.

      Anyway, Apple has a long way to go to tease us if it wants to turn us into calves. 😛

    2.    Tina Toledo said

      @Hugo: From the outset we must clarify a point; no iPhone is locked from the factory, the only person who can do that, and only if they want to, is the owner of the device. The only person capable of unlocking it was your brother (qepd) and he probably chose to encrypt it as a security measure. It should be clarified that there IS NO -as far as I know- way to unlock it. The only way I know is for you to go to an Apple Service center, explain what happened, check that the iPhone is not stolen and they help you recover the password.

      So I clarify once again: It is not Apple who blocks the iPhone, but the people who associate that machine with their personal iTunes account. It is a security measure designed for users and controlled by users.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        That same. Apple has this optional security measure, so that request can be made on Apple's website in case the country in which you live does not yet have genius bars.

  10.   lynze said

    Hehe.
    I break off. This is like a soccer game where for each team the opposing team is the bad guy or the one who has no fucking idea or doesn't know or is an asshole (yes, I said asshole in a disparaging tone).
    Gentlemen, use what comes out of your balls (yes, I said balls), what is most useful for you, what solves your life a little more and / or what you want simply for the sake of it and let the others too they do it. What is old? Y? What is free? Y? What is the most complicated thing in the world world? Y? What is the most intuitive? Y? It works for you? You like? Well, buy it if you can and enjoy, for that you have spent your money on it.

    And yes, I am using a MacBook Pro 15 ″ from 2012 (technology surely very obsolete for many of you) and with Opera (the one that has changed to the evil evil engine and is now accused of being a backgammon).

    Life is to be enjoyed with whatever you want.

    A abrazo.

    1.    French said

      Thinking with the whistle instead of the brain degenerates into a chaotic society, without order or perspective of anything.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        It is a disgrace to live among so many hooligans that are pigeonholed into a single philosophy.

        PS: Good comment.

    2.    Tina Toledo said

      LOL…! You have said it very well Lynze, you just have to see the trouble that is brought about by the use of the word "Taliban" - thus, in quotation marks -: on the one hand, some people tear their clothes because they consider that the supporters of free software are they can offend… ah… but nobody says anything about the anti-apple sheep! Because for them those are Apple users. In other words, the double standard then: the Holy will of God be done, but on my compadre's oxen.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        That same. The same thing happens when you meet a windowser who is more Linux than any other you have ever met, knowing the pros and cons of both platforms and with a much more objective point of view than that of a hermit who is pigeonholed in a single platform of SW.

      2.    Tina Toledo said

        Hello Eliotime!
        Well, you just have to look at the speeches: "alienation and exacerbated consumerism", "attack of madness and stupidity", "millions of idiots" ... and then find "jewels" like this: "That cliché" Taliban "It is a very misconception that they should stop using to refer to those who have a tougher stance on software freedoms." (sic)
        That is the shocking double standard of the populist rhetoric of many, not all but unfortunately most, of Free Software supporters.

        Personally, I stay with what Franz said ... it is the most intelligent, objective and well-founded comment that I have read. Thanks a thousand Franz!

      3.    Xerix said

        There is precisely your problem. Have you carried out a rigorous account at the global level to know that most of the sympathizers of free software characterize them "that shocking double standard of populist rhetoric"?
        Let me tell you that is impossible. Just correct and ask respect to the people where you have seen that phenomenon.
        Lynze's argument is terribly bad. Based on the pursuit of pleasure without considering the consequences of the actions of a society as a whole. I am not against using different tools if you need to use them. But there to take a disinterested position for others and social problems, is terrible and comes from a person who is not very critical. Well, software as a tool depends on the consciousness of the individual, so the factors around it and its use must be studied.

      4.    Tina Toledo said

        @Xerix: My problem you say? Well, look at your double standard, I, like the others, enter the game and say what I think. Isn't that what everyone has done, including Jhon Sullivan himself? You don't need to show proof of something; NOBODY HAS SUBMITTED THEM, therefore that is the rule of this game. So why do I have to prove something? Let those who affirm that there is “alienation and exacerbated consumerism”, “based on the pursuit of pleasure without considering the consequences of the actions of a society as a whole”, “attack of madness and stupidity” and “millions of idiots prove it! ”!

        So is this not a topic to speak freely? Or is it that you can only speak ill of Apple and its users and if you do not do so, you are a "not very critical" person? What I see here are offended Free Software sympathizers, throwing ashes on their heads and tearing their clothes because they used the word "Taliban" but I don't see any Apple user complaining about the "anti-Apple sheep" or the fact that call them "alienated", "crazy", "stupid" and "Idiots" because finally in this type of subject nobody will ever prove something, they will only post what they think and that's it.

      5.    Xerix said

        You have not responded to my criticism. I just mix up bits and pieces of other people's comments and create a single misrepresented argument for your convenience.
        You did not read my comment well: «Just correct and ask respect to the people where you have seen this phenomenon.»
        Where I explain, that before irrationality you correct others who are wrong. They are users of free or proprietary software. Many of the criticisms of those who support free software seem bad to me. Like defining "idiots" to users of other operating systems. But not for that, I will interpret that: "That is the shocking double standard of the populist rhetoric of many, not of all but unfortunately of the majority, of the supporters of Free Software."
        Nor do I read my comment of: "I am not against using different tools if you need to use them."
        Also never talk about Apple and its users, so I did not get into that.
        Unjustifiably labeling users with pejorative nicknames should not be done. Otherwise, your argument is unreliable. And this applies to all people.
        I criticized Lynze's argument and gave the reasons for it. And I also criticize those who speak wrongly about Apple or its users.

      6.    Tina Toledo said

        I already answer you. That you do not like my answer is another ticket and the truth is I do not want to debate nonsense -because both you and I are only going to expose subjective opinions as «arguments», I only wanted to express what I think, and I still think, about how many sympathizers Free Software treats users of other operating systems.

        On the other hand, read at least one book, please ... it takes a lot of work to understand you !:
        «I only mix ...» Only of loneliness (adjective) or only of only (adverb)? I mix: conjugation in the present tense, indicative mood, of the verb mix in the first person: «I mix ...» Do you mean that you, in your solitude, mix?
        «… Pieces of other people's comments and I create a single misrepresented argument for your convenience. - I believe: conjugation in the present, indicative mood, of the verb to believe in the first person: «I believe ... Are you trying to tell me that you believe in an argument for the convenience of ...?

        »" Just correct and ask respect to the people where you have seen this phenomenon. "» Correct? What does the word Corriga mean? Phenomenon? Aren't you trying to say freak? Are you referring to a phenomenon or a behavior?

        "Where I explain, that before irrationality you correct ..." Explain: conjugation in the present, subjunctive mood, of the verb explain in the first person: "I explain ..." Are you going to explain?
        Conjugation in the second person in the affirmative imperative mood: «You explain ...» Do you demand that I give explanations? Again, what does "correct" mean?

        «But not for that, I will interpret ..» I will interpret: conjugation in the future, subjunctive mood, of the verb interpret in the first or third person: «I will interpret ...» «he; she; you will interpret… »Are you going to interpret? Is he going to interpret? Am I going to interpret?

        "Also never talk about Apple and its users ..." Talk: conjugation in the present, imperative mood, of the verb to speak in the second person: "(you) don't talk ..." Do you want to tell me that I don't talk about Apple users? Conjugation in the present tense, subjunctive mood, of the verb to speak in the first person: «I speak ...»

        And they are just some examples, because you use a lot of words that are accented and you omit the accents. You do not want to argue that even poorly written what you are trying to say is understood because that is falling into the field of "assures"; if you don't understand this «... I like the others I enter the game and I SAY WHAT I THINK.» that I wrote clearly, why do I have to understand you if you write badly and with spelling errors? Also ... come on man, there is life outside of Free Software and the truth is that it would be better for you to read a good couple of books, which would help a lot in your personal improvement, than to waste time discussing nonsense with me! And with this I end my debate with you, because to continue arguing would be foolish on my part.

    3.    eliotime3000 said

      I completely agree with you, buddy. Opera Blink has turned out to be the best fork of Chromium that I have come across so far, and the truth is that I do not see anything wrong with it, only that they have not known how to get the most out of Chromium and Blink together with JS (if those of Mozilla They managed to make a PDF reader with just JS, I'd like to see an email client in Opera Blink programmed in JS).

      And on the other hand, apparently, I see that you are really getting the most out of your Mac, because there are fanboys of the brand who discard said computers to be "fashionable", and the truth is that, if they gave me the opportunity to using a 2012 Mac, I would gladly take advantage of it. I'm not saying it's a AppHole or anything like that, but sometimes, for not knowing a platform because simply you got carried away by the heap I can make you say nonsense and a half

      And beware: I'm more aware that Opera implements its link synchronization service for Opera Blink, because when migrating to Blink, this service has been put aside.

    4.    YOQSETIO said

      With two balls, totally agree Lynze.

    5.    Alberto Aru said

      I agree that everyone do what they want, but thanks to the FSF, at least we will know what to expect.

  11.   Satan said

    Apple for me has become a reliable and quality company, a company that inspires mistrust, and also full of scammers.
    From the leaked iCloud photos of the famous, for me that has already been the last straw, fuck Apple, I will definitely never buy one in my life, nor do I like the company or trust it. And now they have the hard face of releasing "Apple Pay", after what happened in iCloud, how do they intend to inspire confidence in their users?
    Fuck Apple.

  12.   Yoyo said

    I'm sorry to be the one to say so but those FSF recommendations are worthless.

    Apple (aka Fanboy) product lover doesn't give a damn what these products do without their consent.

    And to normal people, not geeks like us, those who do not understand how things work, they just want to give power and make everything work for them. Whether or not it is free, whether or not it has DRM, etc., comes to the point, most do not even know what those things mean.

    It is happening.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      Yes, well. Hope someone comes up with using GPG as DRM to make encrypted video calls using WebRTC and the tags to invoke DRM (in the hypothetical case, GPG) in HTML5 (input from MPAA).

    2.    Alberto Aru said

      Yoyo, you know what Apple does with your data and you have chosen to continue using its services, but there are many people who are unaware of Apple's hidden side, that is why there are the FSF recommendations, so that, once we have all the information, we can freely choose what to use. You have chosen to continue using Mackintosh, I prefer not to, but at least, we are informed of the consequences.

  13.   3rn3st0 said

    Alienation and exacerbated consumerism go hand in hand for those who, in a fit of madness and stupidity, consume lower quality products at higher prices. Not to mention the limitations regarding personal freedoms and spying on all your personal information. Millions of idiots around the world give their personal freedoms to Big Brother every day (read however you want to read it) and then cry for what they have given that they did not lose.

    Excellent article and even more because it clarifies many things that surely many of us did not know.

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      When I signed up with Apple to browse the AppStore on iTunes, it forced me to link to a credit / debit card. However, when I logged in from an iDevice, I didn't. What do you call that?

  14.   martin said

    The fact that the FSF defends free software tooth and nail does not mean that we are obliged to follow its guidelines.
    Each one takes what he needs and acts accordingly. For my part I prefer the freest environments, nothing else

  15.   Carlos said

    NEVER, and I am sure I will have an Apple product, apart from their restrictions they are extremely expensive and not good at all, it is an example that products are bought more for the brand than for the quality that they do not have

    1.    Chuk said

      That depends from the point of view of each country and people, an American can buy Apple products with a minimum salary since their economy is not subject to exchange rates and high inflation with respect to Latin countries that have a large TABU in their economy, as in my case Venezuela. To say that its products are expensive is without foundation because Apple does not have branches in X country where its products are imported subject to exchange rates, high inflation and seller's profit margin that double their value.

      I use GNU / Linux as the main OS but I am not a paranoid fanatic, an extremist who does not see beyond X ideals, as I also use Apple and Windows products, each one has its advantages. For example, if Ubuntu wants to innovate by redesigning some GUIs of any software to facilitate its use, the extremists come out right there, disqualifying and defameing Ubuntu for not following its prehistoric ideals.

      Apple products are beautiful and easy to use by anyone without a minimum of computer knowledge they just want to consume the apps that are in fashion. That Apple products are bad are disqualifications and smears by people who largely do not respect other ideals. Now the hardware that Apple uses is the same that a person with resources can afford because nowhere are you going to find high-performance products even if you have GNU / Linux pre-installed for less than $ 1000.

      Same desdelinux This type of publication should be prohibited considering that it brings a lot of controversy due to X ideals.

      1.    eliotime3000 said

        The official currency of Ecuador is US dollars.

  16.   mmm said

    So the Taliban are extremists? What a beautiful expression has become popular, so fair ... the US that you build the image of the world well!

  17.   Ñandekuera said

    I am not an extremist nor do I consider the FSF as such. That cliché of "Taliban" is a very misconception that they should stop using to refer to those who have a tougher stance on software freedoms.
    For my part, I am infinitely grateful to the FSF for the great contribution that the creation and defense of free software has made for humanity.
    And Apple disgusts me.

  18.   franc said

    Why do some always clarify "each one should use what he likes best"? That is very obvious. The issue is whether you are aware that you are giving away your most private and vital information to a sinister corporation. Of this, the common population knows nothing. Even so, the freedom of those people to use what they want must prevail. Nobody forbids them.

  19.   mario said

    I have been able to use (borrow) some Apple products, and it shows a certain quality, more than the entire ipod. For example the quality of screen and sound, fonts, finishing of materials. When I wanted to get into OSX I felt uncomfortable in its terminal, since not being able to do a Ctrl + Shift + V to having to go around adding support to each FS, and missing console programs. Since most common people only look at the external (whatever I mention first), that explains their success.
    After the FSF issue, I would take it with a grain of salt, they also said "don't buy ati", "don't buy Intel", but if I buy AMD I would be buying radeon ... I better not buy anything 😛

  20.   French said

    Perhaps one day humanity can resolve their differences, and live together as TRUE brothers!
    http://devel.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/trisquel-mini_7.0-20140831_i686.iso

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      I will install it on my brother's PC as soon as he has time to migrate all his files from his hard drive to his laptop.

    2.    diazepam said

      retro wade!

  21.   miguelonz said

    What the FSF has said may seem exaggerated, I always value their point of view and although what was said in the article seems excessive, the fact is that they are still right.

  22.   toñolocatedelano_e said

    Yeah !!! Let's make the revolution… .. sitting in front of a monitor 😐
    Jaja

    1.    Ñandekuera said

      "Technique can be used to oppress the people or it can be put at their service to liberate them." Che Guevara.

  23.   Pablo said

    I believe that this is why GNU / Linux and free software do not advance. It is only a free opinion if you want, you can openly debate it, fanaticisms are accepted if you have them.

    I have never had a Smartphone, I don't need it, both Google and Apple are the biggest privacy violators after the United States government. What the hell does Stallman care about an iPhone? He doesn't even get to a simple 10 or 20 dollar phone number.

    Ordinary people ignorant of privacy issues are fooled with fancy advertising that is why Apple sells, I don't know why only Canonical does it, which if I know most people who use trademarks will never understand the welfare of free and open source software and not even because you show them cases of espionage or intimidation will they listen to you.

    The FSF instead of publishing things about Apple should work for its own benefit as a result of this news is that we see how Linux Fanboys live pending what Microsoft or Apple does.

  24.   jvare said

    I think the FSF people are making a serious mistake when it comes to presenting a commercial product.
    I think they make the same mistake, which they criticize at the same time, as many thousands of other people who favor Apple's marketing, talking about its products (and without charging), which are still commercial products, with which the company claims earn as much money as possible.

  25.   SynFlag said

    To see the freedoms of Apple, I invite you to read in Spanish the terms of service and use of iCloud, which recently made people talk ... it is mandatory ... that is how free Apple users are

    1.    eliotime3000 said

      In summary (and as John Oliver put it in his monologue regarding net neutrality):

      Suppose they put you el Mein Kampf in the iTunes license agreement, and you can only hit I accept, I accept, I accept.