As many of you know, I have been using Archlinux and I think it is time to draw a quick conclusion from my experience in this period of time.
In a brief way I am going to expose the good and bad things that I see in this Distribution.
The good:
Rolling Release:
It is true that having a distribution of this type is very beneficial. We do not have to be aware of a launch every 6 months (as in the case of Ubuntu) and we can enjoy the latest versions of the packages as they come out. That for my versionitis is a great stimulus.
Knowledge:
If there is something good about this distribution, it is that it forces you to learn. With its daily use you come to understand the operation of things that before you did not imagine how they worked. That may not interest a normal user, but I do.
Documentation:
To the topic of Knowledge I add this. The best Wiki that currently exists in the GNU / Linux Community he has it Arch. What you find there is the same for Debian what for Fedora. You just have to search and read a little.
AUR
What is not in the AUR? I think you can even find a box of the dead if you want. The system you use (similar to Ports de freeBSD) is just great.
Kiss by kiss .. (KISS)
Another plus point. Although some think otherwise, configure Archlinux it is not so difficult. Everything is in a specific place, following a logical order. I love being able to build things to my measure, with what I need nothing more.
The bad.
It should be noted that the main problem with Archlinux It is not because of the distribution itself, but because of the limitations that I personally have of connection and access to Internet. There are many packages found in the AUR (Turpial, Marlin...etc) and therefore for me they are inaccessible.
It also does not have a super spectacular performance with respect to Debian. Outside of this I have no other complaints so far. I will keep using Arch until completing the tutorials of Installation of Xfce, and then you may go back to Debian Testing. 😀
You have made me wonder about leaving xubuntu, debian and mint.
Well, do not hesitate, the problem with elav is the connection, nothing more
Eh garbage I say courage, how are you doing with the kde guide?
First they have to leave me, and the base system I can use by linking to elav, so I avoid reinstalling because Virtualbox gives me problems
What problems does it give you? Did you read the wiki correctly? because I installed gnome 3 in virtualbox without any problem.
http://www.imagengratis.org/images/pantallazlc4tl.png
It is a mistake that the sandy one has in the mail and that he sent me to shit, see if I look for him and tell you
Eh by the way you didn't notice what I called you upstairs, "Garbage I mean Courage" are you blind or what?
It's that I've gone from you like shit hahaha
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The doubt is for the same thing, I have a 128k internet connection, you cannot imagine the sad life I have.
How do you want to win the lottery if you don't play it? Nothing ventured nothing gained
fredy I can tell you that AUR is practically the same as using the core, extra or community repos, in fact aur uses a script that downloads the sources and compiles them for arch, it has been practically the same as using the other repos. I do not exactly understand Elav's problem, perhaps I would have to put myself in his shoes to understand him, if he does not have problems with the official repos, theoretically he should not have problems with the Arch User Repository.
If it is because of the low connection speed, it is something that affects any distro, because the others you still have to be downloading updates and when not, then the iso. Only that in arch is seen a lot, but it is something that may be misleading.
That is where my problem lies, that it has to download the sources from different places to which I do not have access.
Well although there are many packages and I do not doubt that they are useful, it is not that they are needed to have a complete OS, in fact I have about 14 that are not absolutely necessary for the correct functioning of my system, (with the pacman -Qm I fixed I have to delete a few that I don't use: D)
http://www.imagengratis.org/images/pantallazuo5ru.png
Ok, they have convinced me, I have been sitting in Ubuntu for years and the time has come for the change, when I succeed I will tell you.
greetings.
I was installing Arch, but it seems that I installed it wrong: S
Install Slackware, and I'm still using it. I love Slack and have learned a lot. I know it is very complicated, but the important thing is to obtain knowledge. =)
Regards,
Kitty
And what happened to you? The same is something that I know and I can help you (yes elva, sorry elav does not get jealous of course hahahaha)
I think it was something about the graphics, since I didn't want to install KDE and I had to install Xfce ... And it looked horrible. But one of these days, I get back to work and try to install it. I'm going to miss my Slacky though: C
Did you install the graphics? But on the other hand it sounds like demons to me, specifically the dbus that you did not add.
KDE? If you let me, I can put here a guide to install Arch Linux with KDE and there let everyone leave any doubts they want
Well, if you want, make an entry giving step by step ... I'll need it XD
Well, if you install the graphics.
Well, go ahead, you have an account here and everything ... you just start doing it and that's it, when you finish it you let me know by email to approve the post 😉
Arch is great to learn, the wiki is amazing… I've been with Arch for about 1 year. I never thought it would be so stable having everything so current.
What you mention is bad ... and yes, we depend on a good Internet connection, but ... which distro doesn't need it?
regards
It is a shame for the connection problems, although between you and the sandy and others more could maintain a local repository similar to AUR. Although obviously it takes constant work to get and keep the sources updated and to go from tar.xz to pkg.tar.xz, obviously with the packages that you consider necessary.
Although I tell you something, Elav using the AUR repos has been like using core, community, extra when it comes to the connection.
I don't actually use the AURs at all, the applications that I find in the AURs I simply don't need them, or they are not urgent 😀
Arch installation seems like a hassle to me.
If you make a mistake selecting conflicting packages, and there are hundreds of them, KISS does not allow you to easily fix the mess. That is, if you make it go to me, it is even better than LMDE.
Now I am with Chakra exceptional installation, the best in my opinion of all the distros, but it does not have the AUR, for example freeciv is a nuisance - compared to the installation in ubuntu, LMDE, Sabayon or SUse among which what I tried.
I'm thinking about replacing chakra with Kahel, which I think is totally ARCH and also KISS in the installation because I can install several GDM, Gnome / XFCE / KDE. and I will have access to the PPAs.
A challenge: a package for Multisystem to work in Arch, is what I use to test distros, and it only works well in Ubuntu - I suppose in Mint 12 as well - in LMDE since the last update it doesn't let me do it, but it works for me.
http://theunixdynasty.wordpress.com/2011/02/19/tutorial-instalacion-y-post-instalacion-de-kahelos-gnulinux/
It's mine
Uhm, there's nothing you do with pacman that you can't undo, unless you load up your system so much that even the console won't load you. And I say again that following the steps of the wiki there is no loss to install.
If I'm not mistaken, Multisystem is in the AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33187
yaourt -S multiboot
regards
MMM I think existence is complicated.
Arch is very easy for me, with very basic knowledge.
Simply follow the Wiki (English) step by step.
I use Arch + Gnome 3, for pearls.
Much archero, to see if they fix your user agent.
Good.
Well, I'm precisely in the opposite direction: D. I've been from Arch recently and I agree with what you say, good and bad. I have tried other distros like Mint (I love it), Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE ... but having Ubuntu I said: "Okay, I have everything mounted and everything done, it's nice and which and which ... and?". I was looking for something that would force me to learn even as a novice and normal Linux user. I came across Arch and I loved it. Now I have discovered that Debian has its light or superlight version and I have it installed to learn more about it as well, following Arch's philosophy. I suppose you will already know Archbang (Arch + Openbox) as I also discovered CrunchBang (Debian + Openbox). I even try Crux (where Arch was based). In any case, welcome to Arch, I am not completely gone, but I fully agree on what you say, good and bad. For me, a great distribution that I wish I had discovered much earlier.