We all know the story of OpenOffice.org and the various events that prompted many of its developers to create The Document Foundation and the fork called LibreOffice.
Story that in the end ended better than expected, well OpenOffice.org ended up in the hands of a giant, a doer of projects OpenSource of great connotation: Apache Software Foundation. So what is this article about? Simple:
What you are seeing is a new panel (in the Calligra style) which will be available in Open Office 4.0. And this is where the doubt enters me, well Apache is betting on a change in the interface, something that many users have been crying out for.
I do not know how is the development of both Office Suites, I do not know if they "lend" the improvements, changes and others, so I could not say if LibreOffice will take the same initiative, but if not, which one would you choose? Because if I'm honest, this change in appearance pleases me a lot, so I just have to compare and see what they hide under the hood.
You can get more information about the changes in OpenOffice en this link.
It looks good, but I don't see myself using a vertical panel day to day. I stay at Libreoffice.
I loved that in Calligra, what happens I don't like how it is designed in that Office Suite ... I find it somewhat complicated.
we are two. There's nothing like the classic office 2003 interface
Well, not long ago I asked in another blog article why no one was talking about OpenOffice anymore and ELAV told me that Libre had already gone ahead. I use Windows on a daily basis and even so I prefer OpenOffice to the MS suite, it is faster to load and (obviously) does not cost me a half. I don't know the ins and outs of Open and Libre, but I do know that Open solves all my problems for me and I'm too lazy to start "inventing" something different. I mean, I'll stick with OpenOffice!
I've already commented on it sometime around here, and I don't know if this can be considered a bug or how to report it, but LibreOffice Writer has unified the Heading and Heading styles, breaking hundreds of template-based notes, so I had to go to OpenOffice to see them correctly, and since then I continue with him that, actually, today there is not much difference beyond certain details. With this change, I encourage you to continue with this suite.
Now that I think about it since I was using Ubuntu and switching to Libreoffice, I didn't give Openoffice any other chance.
Too bad that as I see in Chakra (where I am standing) it seems that it does not have it in the repositories.
I had to install in Arch from AUR, I think they don't have any external dependencies so you can try Packer, yes, then you will have to download the language pack and install it by hand copying the files in / opt, which is where it is installed .
A facelift would be good, anyway I don't install openoffice because most of the distros bring libreoffice as default.
Although I think that instead of paying so much attention to appearance, perhaps they should concentrate their efforts (speaking especially of Libreoffice) on fixing some details that still have pending.
This panel is, like other features that will be implemented, especially the interface, the same one that existed in IBM's Lotus Symphony office suite, which was based on OpenOffice and was also donated by IBM to the Apache Foundation; so I think that both office suites will be merged from this version.
I had just read that, that it inherited things from Lotus Symphony ... now, it would be necessary to see if LibreOffice also adopts them.
su - trollmode
password: ********
THE ONE THAT USES RIBBON AS AN INTERFACE !!
exit
Elav, bro, as @EnjoyConde says, this image shows part of what Lotus Symphony was, I'm already seeing the web browser that had this office suite integrated and that's why I was getting started :-P.
At last, they had already been late. This indicates that Oo and Symphony will merge, great !!! You made my day XD.
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Well, if LibreOffice doesn't adopt these changes ... I'm going to OpenOffice 😀
I already have one foot there, believe me XDDD You don't know when bro?
¬¬ Go with that BSD and that Chrome out of here .. HAHAHAHA… I already give you the link so you can download and try ..
Dear Elav
This design is beautiful but it is not optimized, that is, it is poorly designed, because the fields that have a horizontal shape, such as the field for selecting the font, should not go in a vertical bar because they are horizontal, in a laptop with 11 and 13 inches, tablets, takes away a lot of visual field and does not take advantage of space.
It is true that there is a visual improvement but not a design improvement and both things are important to take into account in interface design.
This is constructive criticism.
Elav.
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LibreOffice or OpenOffice; As long as they remain as Open Source projects, I don't think it makes much difference to use one or the other, because in the end they perform the same tasks and truly maintain the standards (not like MS Office that does not conform to them), I think that the use already It will depend on the tastes of each one and there is nothing written about that. For my part, I stick with LibreOffice and pray that they do not join the trend of vertical panels (I really hate them) and ultimately, if they do, that there is at least the possibility to disable them and continue using the style "classic"
When I first heard the news that Oracle was transferring OO authority to Apache I thought "why !? efforts are diversified, it does not make sense "
Obviously I had the myopia that non-GNU / Linux users have when they ask "why are there so many different distros" ...
It is interesting that Apache continues the development of OO because it is precisely this spirit that fosters innovation and growth.
Beyond the facelift - very welcome - I have a renewed interest in seeing how OO will work and what ratio of resource consumption, features and compatibility with MSOffice it has compared to LibO.
I don't know if I'm exaggerating but I think it looks better than Calligra's menu.
But I prefer to wait for it to be in the testing repos. I'm not in much of a hurry to switch libreoffice at the moment.
Yes, I also see it much better.
Personally I think it is good that there are two branches of this fantastic suit. This interface gives me the reason 😀. And regarding Calligra, it would be my favorite if it weren't for its incompatibility with .doc documents
I have abandoned OpenOffice.org since LibreOffice came out, and it has been my daily bread, despite its details (like the one Gadi says) and its appearance that make me a bit unhappy.
If OpenOffice.org turns out to not have the problems that I have now with LibreOffice then go ahead, I'll adopt it. Besides the appearance is not very good in either of them, I like Calligra's more but it is a pity that it lacks many things that the others do have and have bugs.
regards
Now that I think about it ... I've never used OpenOffice. The closest contact I had had with OpenOffice was when I was using Windows, and I was super excited looking for the new Microsoft Office 2010, which in its time seemed wonderful to me, and in the search a link to OpenOffice.org appeared in Softonic, but I was not interested. Ahh, I also remember the KMS to activate MS Office, that I had to run it every week with automatic updates.
But so far OpenOffice, I guess I'll give it a try.
I like that vertical style.
When reading the title I said, Obviously LO !!
But as usual Elav, you covered my mouth ..
Although I may not really try it very soon, because I am so comfortable with LO.
But the good thing is that its development is advancing, and they are no longer dedicated only to copying the news of LO.
I think you're wrong, I don't know where you get that they copy LO. If you search and learn a little, you will find out that the teams in both suites are sharing a lot, and it is evident that they nurture each other. LibreOffice version 3.7 will incorporate Apache's SVG graphics import library, and don't be surprised if the OO bar ends up appearing in LO as well if it works well.
regards
LibreOffice 3.7 is not in the LibreOffice roadmap, it will be 4.0, although Lo since 3.4 imports svg.
Well, then maybe I fell into a delusion, since it is put here:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating
Am I deluded?
Through their official blog, the people of The Document Foundation have announced the release of version 3.6.5 of the Libreoffice open office suite, which includes improvements and stability.
This version is a maintenance update so it has no new features or functions and is focused on fixing bugs.
It is worth noting that this version will be the last update to be made in the 3.6.x branch.
The next big Libreoffice update will be 4.0.0 and will be released between February 4-10.
For now LibreOffice took another path ……… let's see what happens in the future.
To my personally »firefox people» in LibreOffice it will seem that it has little functionality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccFUl7RlgjE
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LibreOffice. Why? Because in it I can make corrections in the translation - I am the translator;) -, because the development is much more active, because it has the support of the distros and the big free software companies (Canonical, Red Hat and SUSE / Novell, in addition indirectly from Microsoft) and because it guarantees the user's freedom with its license, which Apache does not do.
Okay, a translator ... maybe you can clarify a question for me, is there an equivalent in GNU / Linux for Trados? is that until now I have searched and nothing appears to replace it and it is one of the few Windows softwares that I am forced to use ...
Hi charlie I have never used Trados, and I don't think there is anything in Linux that is a perfect clone of it, but I can recommend Virtaal; once you learn the keyboard shortcuts, it is the most efficient and fastest program out there. There's also KBabel, GTranslator, and POEdit, but they don't seem to include as many features as Trados. Who knows, maybe one day those proprietary software companies will stop ignoring us and will release a version for Linux ...
Trados is torture everywhere you look at it, not only because it is the de-facto tool for translators and it requires you to learn and use it for all kinds of official sworn translations, but also because in addition to running only on Windows, it needs to be installed yes or yes. the MSOffice suite as it is saturated with ActiveX and VB macros.
Trados is a product that deserves to die soon, not because it is exclusive to Windows but because the way it is "developed" is horrible, it is a troll to the programmers of the world, nor can you do something so horrible on purpose.
Interesting, but I think that LibreOffice is already far ahead of OpenOffice (Orable took a long time to release). The Apache Foundation will have to make a great effort if it does not want to be left behind.
What I think would be even more interesting is for each person to take their own path, but to “forke” each other their best characteristics (advantages of free software).
forkinception!
Can you have the two suites and choose which one to work with? That way it would be easier to see the advantages and disadvantages of each one and then decide which one to eliminate and which one to leave behind.
This is one of the most important problems in the world of free software. The question is really, is it worth having two projects of these characteristics in parallel?
In Libre Office they have focused on improving the code, providing stability and improving performance, while a change in the interface (which indeed users cry out for) seems to be worse than secondary.
Now in Open Office a renewal in the interface is launched, which can be beneficial.
Isn't it that they both have very good things? Why spend so much resource and effort doing double duty?
In my opinion, this issue is one of the most important to overcome, if you are looking to enter with force users who for now do not know or do not take advantage of the advantages of Linux and free software.
In my personal opinion, I think that having two projects that compete and collaborate at the same time is beneficial for everyone, despite the apparent duplication of efforts that you mention. When there is only one option, projects can stagnate, but competition is often a useful spice to incentivize development.
+1
I personally started years ago using LibreOffice, later migrating KOffice in KDE environments, now I use KDE with OpenOffice and everything is great. I would like to test in the near future the new version 4 of OpenOffice and Kalligra that I have not had the pleasure to work with yet.
I believe that regardless of whether one offers a facelift while the other focuses on optimizing performance, I believe that both initiatives if kept open will greatly benefit users since there will be options to choose from and that is the important thing about free software, the user freedom.
Obviously libreoffice has a slight advantage with respect to openoffice mainly because of the time the project was practically stopped, to which the people of libreoffice also focused on optimizing the code, improving compatibility and one of the most important things that they had announced when they started the project, to leave the dependency on java and I think they have done an excellent job so far.
obviously, apache folks can "sharpen" openoffice thanks to the fact that ibm gave them Lotus Symphony and logically a combination of openoffice with Lotus Symphony would be very interesting to see.
It is very likely that the document foundation will start to port openoffice visual features to libreoffice in its version 4.1 or maybe 4.2, while apache will surely also port internal features from libreoffice to openoffice…. In short, as long as both projects remain open, we will all benefit!
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Personally, I like the vertical panel more, because it would make better use of the space on widescreen screens, especially when working in spreadsheets and presentations, where you require more vertical space to have a better view of the document. Therefore, I would use the suite with the vertical panel.
Greetings all.
I think exactly the same.
I work with two machines, a desktop with a 24 ″ widescreen monitor and a laptop with a 15,6 ″ screen, and in both cases there are huge gaps on the sides unless I choose to display two pages at once, but not I see sense because I only edit one at a time.
In LO I have in a sidebar the Document Navigator and Styles panels. Both are very useful to me in text documents, which is what I use the most.
All free alternatives are welcome, this is the beauty of open source ...
Hello,
Lately I am looking at pages that defend privacy and do not sell our data to third parties, do not censor, make use of free software since knowledge should be free and accessible to everyone and I have come to this page looking.
The point is, changing the subject a bit, 90% of the pages that "fight" against companies, against organizations that violate some of our rights and a long etc ... almost all use Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter, Google, etc ... which for my point of view is somewhat illogical, since you are "complaining" about some practices that are then carried out by all the pages in which you have the links ...
That said, and in case it helps someone / you ... there are free alternatives that do not violate our rights. Lavabit.com (mail), Duckduckgo.com (google), Diaspora, Line, Identi.ca ...
Make use of it ...
regards
Thank you very much, I was completely unaware of avabit.com, Duckduckgo.com, etc. It seems to me that I will not use Google again. What you learn here !!!
What if I have seen Oo that I do not like, is its spell checker is still bad as much as Google's, problems with accentuation and with the spelling itself, in that Libre Office is a step forward. The face lift is good, you always have to renew to refresh yourself and continue, although of course not so much because it can kill you.
I have tested the two suites and I think LibreOffice is much more functional xD, personally I am not interested in the look & feel of an application, I am more interested in its functionality ...
Man, is that in osx libreoffice how it takes the look and feel of the system, it still looks passable.
Hopefully all of this is for the better, but I think I'm still sticking with LibreOffice 😀
To the big one !!! The only thing I ask is that the same document look the same in both suites ... I hope that the people of Calligra will also listen to me, because the last time I went through it, my graduation project, completely transparent and well done in LibreOffice, was messed up completely in Calligra ...
For my part, I'll be what they call a Linux "hooker." And if you have to choose an office suite ... I'll choose all three. For me the adaptation, be it from distro, DE and now office suite, has always been transparent 😛
For me what I really see lacking in Libre Office is the support that if it has Open Office because it has a large community that knows a lot in its forums about technical aspects when the editing needs go beyond the basic ones, and that is something that LO It still does not supply neither with the mailing lists nor with the documentation.
Hello everyone, I am a member of the LibreOffice Venezuela community and I have the news that LibreOffice will also make an interface change. The ProjecLibre style panels will be incorporated, which are very similar to those of MS Office 2007+
Interesting .. is there a place where you can see that more detailed information?
regards
http://www.projectlibre.org/discussion/marketing-tips-projectlibre#comment-167
Hello, I found these videos and I found them interesting, I share them with you.
In this video you will find some of the differences between libreoffice and openoffice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6sZKk9hRIs&feature=youtu.be
To make a correct migration from MS office LibreOffice or OpenOffice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU0vJ79d61U
For complete libreoffice and openoffice courses you can visit
http://www.tutellus.com/2359/libreoffice-y-openoffice-en-un-solo-curso
Well, I am a Windows user, and the first suite I used was OpenOffice, calligra style ??? Well, I remember that this interface is from IBM Lotus Symphony, which was based on OpenOffice, and when the code was donated to the Apache Software Foundation, a change was logical, and the truth looks very good, but the compatibility of lotus was better
Well, nothing, I'm excited that this excellent suitte offimatica evolves. Congratulations to both projects and Thanks for Free Software… Which is a powerful tool to fight for freedom.