6 years ago there was a huge mess when KDE 4.0 was announced and the transition from KDE 3.5 was abysmal. But today with the release of KDE Plasma 5, they assure that nothing bad will happen.
For starters, the default Breeze theme. Clean, monochrome, flat and high contrast. Along with the use of OpenGL to improve graphics performance, they put together the biggest changes visible to the user. Then there are the modernized launchers, the convergence of the shell, better support for high-density displays and fewer notification windows, etc. And to that we add the KDE frameworks 5, with its 80 modules divided into 3 categories based on their run-time dependencies and 3 levels based on their compile-time dependencies. Still more things are missing like the complete support of Wayland or the complete migration to qt5.
Anxious people can try with this Kubuntu based ISO: downloading and compiling the sources.
Another news, mozpeg 2.0 comes out
Mozilla releases version 2.0 of moz peg, its own JPEG encoder, which reduces the size of images by 5%, with some images showing greater reductions. Facebook claims to be excited about mozpeg and plan to use it in their tests, in addition to donating $ 60.000 to Mozilla.
Undoubtedly two excellent news. Regarding KDE, I say the same thing I said on Twitter: If I were them, I would have waited longer to release this version, which is not 100% polished. Meanwhile I'll stick with the old KDE, 4.13 or 4.14 when it comes out 😀
Now it's the distributions' job not to release the new KDE like they did with 4.0, when it was unusable and the "crash handler" window popping up every five minutes. The KDE developers have said that they will support 4 for two more years as an LTS ... but people are very impatient and whatever happens ...
Wow I saw the video and everything they added is excellent I loved it, much more professional than it already was, in addition to giving a modern look to the desktop, very good use of the technology they have. Although, it seems to me that the step from k3 to k4 was much greater than what this is, this just seems like a very nice improvement of the plasma k
It looks absolutely amazing ..
Wow 6 years so soon? I feel old hahaha, but great KDE 4.5 looks very well done 😀
Kudos to the guys at KDE. The KDE makeover team has done a splendid job, especially with the taskbar and the look & feel from the taskbar.
For my part, I'll wait until version 5 comes out, already 100% tested and optimized, because KDE 4.8 unhinged me with QT and not being able to configure it properly (when I migrate to Arch, I'll tell you how it went, because right now I'm on Debian Jessie with XFCE).
I hope you have more filming
this very good
The truth is that from my perspective Kde has the losing battle. They should have abandoned the Plasma concept and started something else from scratch. Plasma is a failure and a totally useless concept. In fact, Kde4 with six years of development continues to have unforgivable bugs, and we are talking about six years now. For example, with Kde 4.13.1:
1. I use two monitors, well, Kde likes it when I have the secondary monitor off to put the login screen in which it is off, so I have to turn it on to start. What's more, it also has the habit of opening windows on the secondary monitor, so I have to turn it on again and move the window to the main monitor.
2. When I copy a file to a pendrive, it gets hit and I have to pray that it doesn't make a mistake. To solve this I have to modify some kernel lines so that it copies the files properly.
3. He also has a good habit of telling me that the recycle bin is full when there are no files, and it is necessary to do another pirouette to solve the problem.
4. The blessed tearing with nvidia owners there is no one to take it away. For this I have to put a script in the profile.d folder
And many other bugs that I no longer remember…. And the question, like it or not, is that with Gnome 3 everything works out of the box, I don't have to modify anything, everything works. Sorry but it is my experience. I'm afraid of Kde5, if kde4 with so many years is so extremely buggy, I don't want to think about what can be found in kde5.
I repeat, they should have screwed up the Plasma concept, it is a failure and makes any user who approaches Gnu / Linux flee.
And all this without troll, it's just my experience
Well, we go in parts to see your point of view, but before I give you mine I will tell you the following: NOT everyone has the same experience with the same product. And I differ with you in something, although with KDE 4 many (and I include myself) did not trust Plasma, its concept and implementation was something very advanced at the time and today, many of us still do not get half the benefit of it.
It has never happened to me, in fact, KDE is possibly the desktop that offers more options and advantages when using two monitors.
There I agree to you in part, but from my experience it is not a KDE problem, it is a general problem because in my case it does not happen with all USB memory sticks. In fact, you just said it yourself: I have to modify a few kernel lines, and not a few lines from KDE. By the way, what do you do to the kernel to fix it?
It doesn't happen to me.
I could not tell you because I have always had Intel graphics, but on the other computer (where I have the two monitors) with an ATI card it works without problems.
If you do better with GNOME according to your experience I congratulate you, but I do not agree with that Plasma is a failure, because as I said at the beginning, I am sure that you do not get the most out of that technology. The failure has been to try to get users' heads into an interface for Tablets (Windows 8 and GNOME) that is so unproductive and tell the user that it is so and it stays that way, because they believe it is the best (OS X style).
Plasma can be adapted to the needs of each user: GNOME NO !. KDE is the most customizable Desktop Environment out there: GNOME NO! KDE has very powerful applications and tools full of options: GNOME NO! But hey, I repeat, if you have done so well with GNOME congratulations, but I don't think it was the panacea either.
Regards
I got the file transfer solution from here: http://www.lasombradelhelicoptero.com/2014/04/solucionando-problemas-en-chakra.html. (Just tell you that Gnome does copy files properly without touching anything).
The point is that I do not take advantage of Plasma technology because I have plenty of everything, I do not need it. I would love to say that Kde is a great environment that anyone can use, but it is not. The environment should facilitate the use of the applications, not hinder it as kde4 does with so much "technology" as you say.
I repeat that it is a personal opinion, but I would have eliminated plasma ..
On the other hand I am glad that your experience with Kde is satisfactory, that makes me happy because the important thing is that Gnu / linux go ahead, with Kde, with Gnome or whatever.
What do points 2 and 4 have to do with KDE? It will be a kernel and Nvidia problem. Point 1 is probably your fault for having something wrong configured, but I don't know because I don't use two monitors.
Plasma is not my saint either and some old bugs are unforgivable, but not that it is extremely buggy. What can be done, hopefully in the not too distant future, is to use the LXQT panel and everything else KDE or use something less friendly like BE :: Shell if they move it to qt5, now that in theory everything is more modularized and you won't have to download 500 megabytes of dependencies to install just Kate and gwenview.
It has to do with Gnome 3 it doesn't happen to me, it's as simple as that. So from the kernel and from nvidia nothing. Gnome 3 out of the box works perfectly, and it doesn't have so much "technology".
it smelled like a gnomer ... and tell me, how does it feel to not be able to change the buttons on the left? What does it feel like to boast about CSD (gtkheaderbar) and only 4-5 applications use them ... not even something as trivial as the terminal ... Do you feel fighting day by day with "inutilus"? a lot of nice weather application a lot of map ... but we don't even talk about comfort (although this point is more subjective once I read a comment that perfectly describes the feeling of many «every time I use Gnome Shell I have to take the mouse ", but of course impossible .. some will say but the" hotkeys "blah blah blah ... the" blessed hotkeys "is even LXDE ... it has nothing special ... it is for those who like to press 22 keys to open firefox with marker number 4 on the list…)?
Regarding the points you mention ... it seems to me that there is a lot of your error in several points (to mention one ... the one that opens the window on the monitor turned off ... my god .. if you investigated a little KDE and did not pretend that it was another gnome 3 .. you can configure it graphically from the KDE preferences without doing anything strange .. it's called "smart opening" or something like that, and what it does is just open the windows in places on the screen where it doesn't cover other open windows…. but ... as most of them are dedicated to throwing shit without trying ...) ... especially because I know Gnomers that precisely what they criticize Gnome is the little harmony it has with the «dual monitors»
60 thousand? What miserable rats ...
What bad luck Debian has had choosing Jessie's freeze date, it gives me that it is going to run out of KDE5 and LXQt (or with very unpolished versions). The only thing missing is that between now and November Xfce and Mate go to GTK3 with new versions, 🙁.
Precisely I prefer a Debian 8 released with stable KDE and LXDE, for the new we will always have Testing and Sid.
x11tete11x I'm not a gnomer, I just say what works for me and what doesn't. Regarding the two monitors, I tried what you say and a thousand other things and there was no way. If the gnomers complain about the dual monitors I don't care, it works for me, period.
Regarding what you say, if I feel this or the other, I feel very good and very comfortable with Gnome 3. The truth is, I have never used such a stable environment and that everything works, without hateful bugs. The truth is that Gnome 3 is wonderful. I love it.
I retruco you then, if as YOU say to YOU it does not work, why are you coming to throw shit in KDE post? ... God knows ... each one with his madness ..
I did not come to throw shit, I came to give my opinion when I saw the exit of Kde5. And my opinion (and that of many Kde users) is that Plasma should go away. Be careful, I say Plasma and not Kde and all its apps that are the best there is in Gnu / Linux.
It just disappoints me that Kde5 is still exactly the same Kde4, a shame they continue with the Plasma concept; so they will never take off.
This criticism goes to the way of facing the development of the desks…. The eternal nonconformity of this reinventing the wheel once a year, don't you get tired? The thing is easy, they have no pale idea of what they want to achieve, a thousand changes and they will never end, guys, leave things alone and just remove the bugs, I wonder, do you think that end users are going to be re-adapting forever? if there are hardly any people who tolerate a change of icons!
This is the sea of dissatisfaction, it turns out that when something goes well, then it is no longer useful because it is old.
Crazy world of non-conformists.
Precisely plasma 5 is almost the same as 4 when using it, and on top of it improved, you've got the wrong news.
I would be interested to be informed of the development
Oxygen you suck xD
But today with the release of KDE Plasma 5, they say nothing bad is going to happen.
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nothing bad is going to happen, only the environment is ugly, just that 🙁
marvelous ubuntu 14.04 software i love i'm beating blind but i will learn in my almost 80 years
THE KDE 5 IS A M !!!!