Let's talk about Cinnamon.

Let's talk about Cinnamon, quite a new desktop environment, in fact I think it is the newest we have within the desktop ecosystem GNU / Linux.

Well, I think everyone should already know what the hell I'm talking about but none of them should have tried it or are actively using it now, maybe some, I'm not going to generalize, but well, in the absence of information about this new environment and specific opinions, I'm going to give the task of talking a little about it.

Note: Images at the end of the post.

It should be noted that I use this environment as the main one and actively participate in the reporting of bugs and discussions within the project in Github, for which to all interested I recommend searching on github linuxmint / cinnamon and sign up for issues.

A bit of theory:

We all already know that Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome Shell, based on Gnome 3. It has a minimalist but quite pretty appearance and the functionality of Gnome 2 mixed with some things from Gnome 3 as the area of ​​applications and desktops already well known in Gnome Shell.

But let's move on to what interests us, the environment itself and my opinions about it.

First of all, it must be made clear that, although it is already in a "stable" phase, it is still in a vertiginous development since it is not more than 3 months old, so now this desk needs to grow, in fact , I dare say that in less than three more months we will have a fairly complete environment capable of standing up to the greats like Shell, Unity, Xfce, KDE and others, and I say stand up, not overcome or compete directly, but defend yourself even with your eyes.

I'm testing it low Ubuntu 11.10 (Courage doesn't take long to jump to try to cut my neck) and so far it has been going pretty well for me; quite a bit better than expected.

At the level of resource consumption, the environment is heavy, it must be admitted, before adding the PPA and reinstalling the packages, it consumed me 1.1GB of RAM while doing almost nothing, that's a smack when you don't have a lot of RAM (thank goodness that I have enough and with good speed / latencies) but as minimalist as it looked, it wasn't light. After reinstalling with everything updated I could notice that Cinnamon went on a diet and now does not eat so many resources, has dropped to 600-700MB while I have Firefox, Banshee, Deluge y Empathy open, although from time to time it still shoots me to 1GB of consumption, I am not going to lie to you, although we must not forget that there is still A LOT to polish this desktop environment and that in new versions they will surely stabilize this problem that I have already reported linuxmint / cinnamon on the GitHub issues.

Bugs? Of course it does, I'm not going to lie, I'm giving you my full and honest report and opinion, the environment presents some annoying but not serious bugs; At least not for me.

The first is that it does not show some programs in the mintmenu, entre ellos UbuntuOne y Software Center, so if you don't know how to move around the terminal, I still don't recommend using Cinnamon since I, at least, do everything from the terminal and if I don't get or don't know the names of the packages then I do:

$ sudo aptitude search

And now, delete it, all set.

But if I still can't find what I want, then nothing:

$ software-center

And voila, I run the program.

But it is still something that they must correct within this environment, I do not know if it happens to others but it does to me.

Another little problem that I found is that I can't change the theme of the windows, I don't know why but I only recognize the one that comes by default, but it's not a bad thing to die so it doesn't bother me, in fact, I find it nice so Why make balls out of this?

Outside of that and consumption, nothing bad more to report on my part ... for now.

Now, regarding usability I must say that I am very satisfied, it is simple, everything is within reach of a couple of clicks and it is not even remotely complicated to understand.

The management in the notification area is super simple, the music area is comfortable and the windows are clear and easy to understand, in use I give it a 10 out of 10.

And… The configuration, extensions, customization and tools of the environment?

Well, it is not that he is very strong in that area if we compare him with monsters like KDE that has more than ten years in constant development and evolution, or with Xfce who even has his own look.org, or with his brother Shell that has infinite themes to customize ...

It has, as far as I know, a climate extension (that I don't use for now) and at least 5 own songs (very cute, but few), obviously Gnome TweakTool and its own configuration system "Cinnamon settings" that has just appeared, so in that aspect it is still very basic but I repeat again, all this has been achieved in less than three months and we must give credit to the community for this since we are not going astray.

So in my personal opinion I can say many things, the first is that Cinnamon I love it, I really like it, it's scary and period, it can stand up in simplicity to the famous desktop mouse called XFCE (I'm ready to fight you bald) and it's very pretty, like KDE (also against you Gaara), but it needs to grow to really be able to say that it can make a space next to the greats.

When dealing with the issue of efficiency, the poor man is still somewhat maimed, but he is evolving and this has to be changed because it has to be changed, although I am not bad with my 4gb of ram (ddr3 @ 1600mhz, without eagerness to believe anything, it is just one piece of information) and my other hardware.

If we get into tools, configuration, etc, then I say yes it is lazy here too but the repentant dog returns; all this has been achieved in a short time, give credit to clem and the community, that if you do not make a cucumber to help you cannot speak either.

It only remains for me to say that I feel a little bad for not being able to do much more for the environment since I do not program well, I am still a rookie of the 3rd semester and I am stumbling, but I support as I can and that is reporting bugs, solving doubts and participating in all kinds of tests and discussions to at least give my grain of sand. If they want they can do the same and thus help the project a little, or if not, do it with any other, it does not matter, the point is to give something back to the community that gives us so much.

For my part, I have achieved my environment and it tastes like earth, I mount sewers what they say, the bald man with Xfce, Mr. anime with KDE and me with Cinnamon, to see who else joins with another environment.

Images:


Peladito desk ...

The mint-menu, simple right?

Dialogs for anchors.

Music, networks and calendar dialogues soon extendable.

Easy to change themes and retains that Shell preview feature that I love.

The consumption skyrocketed, this is the downside of Cinnamon at the moment.


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  1.   Courage said

    Well, well, I thought it was going to be light, well, we'll see over time

    1.    dwarf said

      According to what they explain to me is that the higher the ram (4gb in my case) the system will take and use more.

      1.    Sergio Esau Arámbula Duran said

        Correct, as I explained it is light to me and I LOVE CINNAMON, it is the best shell I have seen and it is even on par with the Gnome shell XD

  2.   Alf said

    That of the greater ram, the greater use, it must have a limit, did they tell you something about that? I mean, if you have 4 gb of ram and I take 1, how long will it take me with 8 gb of ram?

    I think the environment must have some limit.

    1.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

      Let's see, I'll explain a bit what that "the higher the RAM the higher the consumption" is about.
      The application as such, the software consumes the same good if you have 1GB as if you have 4GB or 8GB, now… where is the difference?…. simple, in the cache that the application / software uses.

      In other words, Cinnamon detects that my system only has 1GB of RAM, so it limits itself / configures it to use a maximum of 100 or 200MBs for its own cache that it needs (I have given example numbers).
      If it detects that the computer has 8GB of RAM, obviously it will not be limited as much (100 or 200MBs) and could well consume 500 or 600MBs and use it for cache.

      The meaning of this is not very complex, that is ... the more cache the application / software uses, the more fluid everything will be, the application will work more dynamically, faster.

      regards

  3.   Alf said

    Very clear explanation.

    Thank you

  4.   rogertux said

    The other day I tried it and for the little that they have it is quite good. What I like about this project is that it shows us what gnome could have done if it weren't in such a rush.
    Because the gnome-shell works fine but for a desktop, the traditional environment is better. (For now)

  5.   Sergio Esau Arámbula Duran said

    Well, no……. I have a 1 GB PC and even in Cinnamon 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 I never get to consume something close to 1 GB, I went to 600 MB

  6.   Tina Toledo said

    From the moment that Cinnamon It was available I installed it on my Linux Mint to prove it and the truth is that despite being a great proposal I still do not end up liking it, but we must confess that it is more for customization reasons than for operation.

    I hope that Cinnamon already ripe for next version of Linux Mint LTS

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      By the way Tina. Firefox 12.0a1? 0

      1.    Tina Toledo said

        LOL! Yeah it's kind of FireFox Testing rolling release.

  7.   KZKG ^ Gaara said

    It honestly doesn't look bad ... it's not disgusting to look at, just ... “It consumes too much to allow SO little”… that's where the problem is.

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Don't inflate KZKGGaara balloon. Cinnamon allows everything that Gnome 3 allows. You can't compare it to KDE (don't even think about it) because it still has little more than 3 months of development. Also, users don't always use most of the features of a desktop. Or will you tell me that you exploit all of the KDE options?

      Cinnamon has been the best idea the guys at Mint have ever come up with, because they give Gnome 2 users the experience they didn't want to miss out on using the Gnome Shell.

      1.    Sergio Esau Arámbula Duran said

        Correct, for example I do not use Nepomunk and I do not need it at all XD Cinnamon works well and allows to be changed the subject with only 2 clicks, Cinnamon still in its early state where the translations are not available yet is already comparable with the shell of Gnome and in fact it has fascinated me, I LOVE CINNAMON and in mint I can't stop using it 🙂

      2.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

        I am not going to start with the same as always ... just remind you that it is better that there are plenty of options that are missing. It does not matter if the user does not use them, it is better that they have 1000 options because in this way it ensures that I, you or any other user, will have what they want and more, and not with only 10 options.

        But this is just my opinion 😀

        1.    elav <° Linux said

          Each thing with its objective. Xfce has never claimed to be what it is KDE, to give you an example. Just having so many extra things is one of the reasons why KDE is slowly digesting your RAM. Or did you forget Akonadi + Virtuoso + Nepomuk? What I mean, each thing has a goal and as I was saying, you can't think of comparing one thing with the other.

  8.   Tina Toledo said

    BTW… does anyone around here think that Cinnamon is it a throwback? I do not ask it in a bad mood but because I have read in other places that Gnome Shell y Unity they are the most "nice" and Cinnamon it's just to appease the whim of those who got the desk from ten years ago.
    I personally believe that cinnanon It is a great proposal and that type of desks will never stop being functional but hey… I would like to know what you think.

    1.    dwarf said

      I think it is to give freshness to the old ... Cinnamon uses concepts of Shell like what my pictures show and it uses Gnome3 technology, so it doesn't have any "Backlight" at all. In fact if we talk about desks Cinnamon is, along with KDE, XFCE and some others the only one that is really functional on a desktop unlike Unity that looks better focused on the touch or Shell that I see focused on the same, touch ...

      In fact I think that the aforementioned are the whim of other crybabies who wanted something new, something that looked good but did not work as it looks and I have my reasons to say it ... How many clicks do they make to get to something in Unity and how much space can your dock occupy? Or for example, how useful is Shell without your extensions? And now ... what should be done to Cinnamon so that it serves well?

      If this desktop concept has survived so long it is not on a whim, it is because it works and everything that works lasts ... Why haven't the cockroaches become extinct or why is it so difficult to eradicate ants? Come on cunt, all this controversy about desks is pure desire to crush the eggs, because I go back and repeat, Cinnamon It already has a new base with the usual usability and I have no doubt that it will incorporate the best of other environments over time and also put its own concepts on the table ...

      Dime Tina Do you see Cinnamon as such? I think that each one has its pros and cons, because if we talk about avant-garde without a doubt KDE is the one that has the advantage with everything it offers and is exactly the same as Cinnamon at the window management level ...

      1.    dwarf said

        Ok, damn, I didn't close a strong in the last comment and I screwed up, sorry ... I don't know how to edit the comment

        1.    Sergio Esau Arámbula Duran said

          No, not everything is fine, everyone has their opinions and it is valid.

          To all this I agree with you one hundred percent to the point where I liked it, I discard it, just take care of your way of expression and everything will go well, it is normal when someone wants to remove the accumulated

          In fact I just called the attention of someone on my blog who with a derogatory humor began to annoy me, and to dirty my blog

  9.   kik1n said

    I love it.
    Easier, FAST, stable (Still in beta).
    I have 3 Rams and I barely consume 50 megabytes in my Arch.

    For me it is the desktop of a lifetime even in beta.

  10.   Cristhian said

    Can I use Cinnamon on Tuquito 5? Which is the same as Ubuntu 11.04. All the post I saw is to test it but as of ubuntu 11.10. Someone may know how to help me 🙂

  11.   Luis said

    The truth is that all desks have their own, I am not a fan of any. I always liked gnome 2, and in fact I still have Mint 10 Gnome together with LMDE with KDE environment (I confess that when I updated and saw Gnome 3 I was shocked and spitting fire from my mouth). Now that gnome 3 is more usable than when it came out, he decides to give it a try, I'm trying to learn how to use and configure it (a bit tedious, more if you want to change any color of the themes), but over time I do think gnome 3 be a desk that promises. I have to take the time to test XFCE further. It all depends on the need and what we want to do with the desktop, it is the most beautiful thing in this Linux world. Regards.

  12.   Manual of the Source said

    I just want to point out that Cinnamon in Arch is currently consuming 51MB on my laptop with 2GB of RAM, and with Evernote and Chromium running, the latter with 6 tabs open.

    With this I want to show that although its consumption is not exactly light, it is not nearly as high as that indicated in this post; I don't know if because they have already fixed that bug or because Arch behaves lighter than Ubuntu.

    The most I can remember seeing it consume is around 100-150MB of RAM, and that's working with countless tabs open and multiple applications running at the same time.

    1.    Courage said

      because in Arch it behaves lighter than in Ubuntu

      Can be

      1.    Manual of the Source said

        I assumed it is most likely but I still don't want to take it for granted. 😛

      2.    lolopolooza said

        I see a lot of user windows here hehehe

  13.   yathedigo said

    Notice for navigators: The new ati drivers (12.1) now allow the cards of this brand to work with gnome shell; Not so with cinnamon 1.2 that I have installed but it presents oddities when closing or maximizing windows ... although in the end it will be that I have gotten used to unity :-)))

    Oh what a life this is!

  14.   David said

    Hello Cinnamon is the best simple shell and it shines with looking at it ... well and I tried many gnu linux distros and honestly I stay with the new one which is linux mint debian 12 huf I have no problem well so far I have only been a week and have not run games with wine ... the super fast and in my case it consumes me only 258mb of clear ram I have not put effects on it is born .... Well I hope the linux geek supers will achieve the direct and goodbye windows although with wine the games that run it have a better quality and greater behavior than in windows good goodbye and

    I stay with mint debian 12

  15.   dude said

    I can't open system settings with cinnamon