Linus Torvalds, supports a device only by one user

Linus Torvalds, the «benevolent dictator» returns to generate a bit of controversy with his comment, although this time (and unlike previous ones, as with Nvidia) is a positive thing

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It happens that as a result of the launch of Linux kernel 3.19 a user on the development roster dropped the idea of ​​simply, stop supporting the LAN driver EISA FDDI, taking into account that this hardware device was obsolete 20 years ago.

EISA FDDI was only really used between 1988 and 1995, then it was discontinued when PCI Bus appeared, it is a 10Mbit LAN controller

A user from the list (Maciej W. Rozycki) answered that he has that LAN card, and that he wants to continue using it:

Well, I would like to keep my x86 alive and online (…) is the maintenance of this really so complex? The amount of code that would be removed would actually be miniscule or negligible

So linus answered:

As long as we have a user and it works (the code or support for that hardware) then no, we will not eliminate support for EISA. It's not like it really affects us, or that it's broken (means that it was problematic to keep it operational) as the old i386 was (...)

And this has been it 🙂

Linus has attitudes that sometimes annoys a lot of people, however, as he himself once stated, he is not there to seem like a good guy or to be nice to everyone, he is to program, and this my friends ... program, lead the development of the Linux kernel, it does really well.


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  1.   charlie brown said

    It's looks very good for me; In fact, there are still many industrial computers that are controlled by EISA and ISA bus cards and have not had replacement with PCI or PCI-e cards, so maintaining support for supposedly "abandoned" drivers would be a strength of Linux (another plus)…

  2.   dbillyx said

    After reviewing the sources I wonder ... what happened ... lack of time to review the list ... or mail full of lists that does not give time to review everything ... I mention it by the date January 20.
    And suddenly from 20 to today, February 10, linus was out of the loop and decided "yes" to remove it xD

    1.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

      I am moved by your concern about the support or not of this device, in case Linus after these weeks decided to throw back what he said and in effect, stop giving support. Don't worry, he hasn't, you can sleep peacefully 😀

  3.   mario said

    The Extended ISA bus is still found on new industrial motherboards (as indicated by the initials ISA). There are also ISA CPU cards, whole computers with minimal power consumption (20 years before a Rasperri Pi). By itself the distributions disable ISA support and very old IDE / Audio / Network cards (personally they are a headache), it does not affect the desktop user today.

  4.   Adolfo Rojas said

    If so, we should convince him to support PS / 2 again

    1.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

      HAHAHAHAHA but it does not have support for PS / 2 port ???

  5.   zetaka01 said

    It is assumed that Linux is not just desktop, that there are industrial distributions. This is a fake or nonsense. Mostly silly.

    1.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

      Fake? Did you click on the links in the post? . I mean, so you can read the conversation on the mailing list yourself.

      Although, well maybe someone spoofed Linus' identity, cracked his email password and used it to trick us all into EISA support ... LOL!

      1.    joaco said

        So is it stupid?

      2.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

        hehe well then who are they calling stupid, Linus or Maciej?

      3.    joaco said

        I'm just saying that the guy said it's a fake or nonsense and you only said that it was not a fake, so logically it is nonsense xD

  6.   eliotime3000 said

    And that is why it is even worth using Nanolinux (to give it a second chance that Windows will never give it in its existence).

    1.    zetaka01 said

      Linus is a nag and rude, and he doesn't develop the kernel, he just keeps the rights to changes or something like that.
      Yes, he is a good seller.
      You haven't known what the kernel is about in a long time, except from reports.
      I hope it continues like this.
      After what started. you have the right to live on it.
      All the best

      1.    PT The Earthman said

        OMG hahahahahaha.

      2.    zetaka01 said

        Because of the jokes, Linus is the "spiritual boss" and creator of the kernel, after so many years the boss does not develop looks like the others develop. The "benevolent dictator" thing sounds fatal.
        And yes, he is rude and a provocateur.
        By comparison, Stallman is a radical Epicurean "who envies", and maintains the education. And charges a fee per conference.

        1.    KZKG ^ Gaara said

          Does Stallman maintain education? I don't think it's very polite to wear shorts and flip flops to a conference or event, but hey, everyone has their own tastes.

          Anyway I repeat, Linus is NOT out to be nice, socially popular, or a pop star ... that's NOT his job.

    2.    zetaka01 said

      I don't know if nanolinux supports it, it sure does.

  7.   Andrew said

    That guy buy a new network card and stop fucking.

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  8.   Taregon said

    I think I got a tear: ') Enough of the drama that men don't cry. It is to applaud the decision he made and how he sustained it, that is the aptitude. Great Mr. Linus

    1.    joaco said

      Linus is the second coming of God in the form of man, he is the Messiah who comes to profess the Linuxera religion. Linus is love, Linus is good. Praise linus… ok no.

    2.    zetaka01 said

      Developers, developers.

  9.   zetaka01 said

    I don't think you get the "epicure" thing about Stallman, he goes his way but he doesn't insult. And yes, you are right, Linus's job, as I have said before, is not to program. I would not either, but in addition to provoking to cause expectation, a little education would not hurt. It can be called whatever you want politely, like Stallman, or it can be teased like Linus. By the way, I do not agree with the extremes of Stallman, I only used him as an example.

  10.   zetaka01 said

    Also, I didn't come to Linux because of Linus or Stallman. People don't even know them.
    People always come to Win, they put it on the computer that they buy without asking and it works for them.
    When a brand releases a model with both OSs, what a coincidence! It turns out that the Linux one has broken hardware. Curious.
    I'm talking about established brands, IntelMS.

  11.   zetaka01 said

    I got linux through Debian on floppy disks. Oh, also Windows 3.0-1, on floppy disks and OS / 2 Merlin. Except Debian, I bought the distro. I also bought the Suse distro and its manuals.
    I don't need Suse's configuration, in LMDE, automatic now. Before it was a fun fight for the drivers.
    Now with installing the programs, okay. And also firewall and security. Among all, 6 hours minimum. That custom, by default 15 minutes.

  12.   plated! said

    It seems to me very good that Linus respects the user like that, others who are in Redmon or Cupertino could learn.
    NO TO SCHEDULED OBSOLESCENCE!

  13.   archlinux said

    He said it well, he is a programmer; not an improvised addict to software development environments that hides source code (abstract, encapsulate, etc.), to make PC users more and more dependent on those misnamed dictatorships, if we do not put effort into programming ourselves, We do wrong to complain about who we say is a dictator.
    Open source and free software are invaluable human heritage, for those who not only want to use programs blindly and under eternal dependency.