Under this title in the LinuxMin blogt, Clem has published an article explaining that we will meet in the long-awaited 4th update de LMDE.
This update, which is in the testing and preparation phase, contains the following changes:
- Linux 3.2 kernel
- MATE 1.2 (with mintMenu and mintDesktop fully ported to MATE)
- Cinnamon 1.4
- KDE 4.7.4
- GnomeShell 3.2.2
- Xfce 4.8
For users who want to preserve packages from the Update Pack 3, that is, keep your Gnome 2, you can use these repositories:
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/gnome2-frozen testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/gnome2-frozen/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/gnome2-frozen/multimedia testing main non-free
However, although it is not yet known which will be more popular among Cinnamon y MATE, This second option can be a perfect alternative for users of Gnome 2, although seeing what Gnome Fallback can look like, for me MATE it's a step back.
As an extra, Clem lets us know that the ISO's de LMDE with the Update Pack 4, also points out that MATE y Cinnamon they may not be the default desktops, but will nevertheless be included, and both will be fully compatible. They are also updating Firefox y Thunderbird to version 11.0. So you know guys, we'll have news about this shortly.
I updated my lmde to pack 4 a few days ago, 700 and so many megabytes of updates and more than half an hour of installation resulted in a rather slow system, both in startup and in general operation, I don't know if it was my error or what, but in passing from gnome2 to 3 the change was radical, for the worse, so I was forced to install cinnamon which is not going so bad, but in truth, the change is lost a lot, it does not have the same configuration options, among other things , so I think I will change the distro, as an open question, how is chakra going in its latest version? I liked kde and in live it goes like a bullet, installed I don't know, I await your answers, greetings.
ps: excellent your blog, one of the best I have seen, current and with important data for linux users, greetings
Chakra is a very good option.
And in general performance ?, I will have problems for example when installing firefox since it is by bundle, I say, the configurations stored in .home will be kept, another question, I can install synapse and it operates, I did not see them in bundle manager or in the program installer in live mode
I used Chakra for 6 months, last year, and I was really happy with it. You can install Firefox without problems, from the bundles, which are packaged GTK applications that "do not pollute the system with its dependencies," and also from the community repositories, the CCRs. From synapse no idea, but Opera comes in the official repos. If you like KDE, go ahead.
I forgot, the configurations are saved normally, whether bundle or not.
thanks for the comments, cheer me up and I just installed and configured chakra linux, it is going extremely well, fast and without major problems, greetings
Thank you sebas and welcome:
I think that in this case it would be best to wait for the .isos to be released with Update Pack 4 to avoid these big updates.
Thanks for what you say about the blog, we try to please everyone 🙂
regards
PS: When you find a taste for KDE, you won't want to try anything else 😉
hehehehe Mr. Gaara is right, regarding KDE !! great news that one of my favorite distros (LMDE) comes with KDE. Although cinnamon will really have a future.
cinnamon will have a good future .. and hopefully it will dethrone the market to that error of nature called "Unity"
so is .. !! I didn't keep using KDE because dolphin doesn't show a summary image of the videos like nautilus does. that's the only thing I don't like about KDE the only thing ahahaha
You can activate the video thumbnails in Dolphin by installing kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs, for example, but the truth is that by now it should be standard.
EXACTLY
wow I didn't know that O_O… is there a way to do like in Gnome2 with the audio files? that is, putting the cursor / pointer over an audio file, it starts playing? thanks 🙂
KZKG ^ Gaara, as far as I know, no, although I haven't done my best to find information about it. And it is that in Dolphin, if we activate the information panel, we can already preview the multimedia files, although it is not the same.
mmm yes you are right, with that panel it is done, but my screen is only 14 inches ... with 1024 × 768 spending space on that panel as it is annoying 🙁
Chakra is going great I come from Kubuntu and I feel at home, regarding the performance it is very good install a base and from there start installing anything to your liking. Regarding Firefox you can install it from the Bundle, it is a firefox not very integrated, it has another option that is firefox-qt integrated but only look at it ugly peta x_X.
The other is to install from the ccr the firefox-kde-opensuse integrates very well not only visually if not in everything, but the problem is that it must compile and satisfy many gkt + dependencies and that it takes a long time to compile>. <But it remains very nice the damned nn and more if we install the oxygen KDE. This process is repeated in each new version x_X
One question, I currently have Xubuntu installed on my lap, LMDE with Xfce could be considered as a lighter and faster distro?
Greetings.
Lighter for sure. Faster …… ..I go for the gig of ram and I have the SRWare Iron with 6 tabs, the Firefox with 3, a terminal, the thunar and the gedit.
WTF !!!!
I'll tell you ... I have KDE 4.7.4 with Chromium with 2 tabs, Firefox 11 with 1 tab and Opera 11.61 with 5 tabs, plus a web server (Apache + PHP5 + MySQL) plus also Pidgin, KMail, Dolphin (file browser) open and Kate (text editor), likewise open Yakuake (terminal), Klipper, Bluetooth, and some other thing, and it only consumes 750MB of RAM O_O and your Mint consumes only with Xfce and some 1GB apps? ... fuck, go _______ that Mint, every day I am more convinced that it is a little overrated ...
And how much is your machine? Mine is 4GB.
Also I do not use anything that can "reduce" the use of ram
Only 2GB of RAM 🙂
PS: I only have Nepomuk deactivated… because the effects, transparencies, animations and Akonadi are working.
KZKG ^ Gaara
How can it be???
And I tried to install KDE more than a thousand times (In various distributions), but it is always very heavy.
I have a 3 Ram 2 Core PC, Intel video card (The most screwed up)
If you give me a KDE tutorial.
Well, two things:
1- Intel is not at all the most screwed up of cards, quite the opposite.
2- Both KZKG ^ Gaara, as I (some time ago) have installed KDE in Debian following this tutorial.
elav made one actually 😀
https://blog.desdelinux.net/debian-kde-instalacion-y-personalizacion/
Do you install the distro in 32 bits or 64?
I tell you, KDE is like AMD ... it has many myths around it haha 🙂
Hahahaha Elav, I didn't mean that. If not, I have one of the most fucked-up intel. Not that intel is screwed up.
I installed it on 32 bits KDE (OpenSuse, Fedora, Kubuntu, Arch, Debian, etc)
I disable the effects, Nepomuk. Restart the machine.
The first thing I notice:
The desktop freezes for about 10-20 seconds and then I can continue.
The consumption of my CPUs is 50% to 70% with nothing activated.
In other distributions the consumption is from 20% to 40% but when transferring documents from my removable DD to the pc, the consumption rises up to 100% in both CPUs or when opening an internet browser.
… LOL!!! HAHAHA!!! how I laughed with that HAHAHAHA !!!!!
impressive .. not if the low consumption is due to the powerful debian or is that your hardware is blessed by the gods ahahaha xD but once I tried to test KDE with Kubuntu and the memory consumption was cai 2 gb with just jdowloader + google chrome with 5 open tabs and vlc.
HAHAHA no not what happens, with ArchLinux the same thing happened to me (honestly I noticed KDE in Arch faster, but there I used KDE 4.8.1 and now in Debian only 4.7.4, for sure it is that).
Right now:
- Opera (6 tabs)
- Firefox (1 tab)
- KMail
- Pidgin
- Yakuake
- Dolphin
- Klipper
- Yakuake
- Apache + MySQL + PHP
- Bluetooth
- Rainlendar2
- Transparency effects + Animations
- Akonadi
Total consumption: 571MB of RAM consumed and the SWAP in 5MB or less.
then it must be to the new version of KDE that is 4.8 that the consumption was improved 🙂
I think so
Well I just installed LMDE last night, right now it is being updated, I hope everything is as expected.
So far so good, I just need to install the video and sound drivers ... etc ... I don't have the fucking idea of how to do it, but I'll see what I do, I have an ATI 5770, if you are going to help me, please don't put the link download, I already know what to do, what I want to know is the installation process.
thanks…
Give us the output of this:
sudo apt-get search atiwith "Update Pack 4" it reminds me of Windows "Service Packs" xDDD
It is because it is the same. It is the same as saying that the update manager remembers Windows Update.
+1 ...
AHAHAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
to wait for the stable UP4 to come out.
I step by step (that I am running to the hospital that my old man is very, very sick)
Something that I have noticed, and that is why I am using Xubuntu, is that after I finish installing the programs that I use the most and reboot just to adjust everything, the wifi goes away. The lap card is a broadcom, the button is on, all the drivers already installed and according to this working, but it does not connect (and after restarting or recompiling the drivers, apart from running out of wifi, I am left without ethernet) This problem happens to me in both LMDE distros (that is, with gnome and Xfce) and I don't even know how to find my dilemma.
I do not forget the other guys ... I really want to collaborate, but I did not count on everything that is happening around me. The stress is such that pffft, I can't even draw. As soon as I am a little more free and relaxed, something happens to them, because I do not have the scanner available and in reality, I have not been able to create anything of the design of the contest promo. A thousand apologies, it's not that I don't want to ... But then things happen.
They are major causes that are perfectly understood.
+99
What good news !!
Does anyone know of the release date of the LMDE ISOs with Update Pack 4?
Hello friends I have a question regarding LMDE, I have installed it and updated it but with Gnome 3 and I wanted to know if it still detects a single core, since in Gnome 2 and Xfce it only detected a single CPU.
Greetings.
That does not depend on the desktop environment, but on the kernel you are using. You have to install the one called linux-image-3.2.0-2-686-pae. You open a terminal and put:
sudo aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-2-686-pae -yIn the Grub I have:
LMDE, with the 3.2.0-2-486
LMDE, with 3.2.0-2-486 (recovery mode)
LMDE, with 2.39.0.-2-486
LMDE, with 2.39.0.-2-486 (recovery mode)
and Arch with his Fallback
So this is not if this pae, I think you can install the pae 686 from Synaptis.
Greetings.
When installing it for the first time perhaps the grub was installed in a partition and when upgrading to Gnome 3 install the Grub in another partition.
Well yes, you can install it from Synaptic. I didn't understand about GRUB: S
What happens is that in the grub I have these 4 options to select the 3.2 kenel and the 2.39 I don't know why
Because you still have the kernel from Update Pack 2 😀
But why? if in my sources.list I have it like this:
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest test main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing / updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia test main non-free
I have applied sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it follows the same.
Greetings.
Well install linux-image-3.2.0-2-686-pae -yy now I have apart from the 4 previous options I have 2 more entries with those of the pae 686.
Excuse my ignorance but I don't understand what to do.
regards
The only thing GRUB does (the first time) is allow what Kernel or Operating System to enter. All you have to do is access the first one above, which must be linux-image-3.2.0-2-686-pae.
Yes but the other four entries that I make with them, in a minute I thought that for the other entries I could log in with Mate or Cinnamon.
In fact, I almost installed MATE in the session with Grub 2.39, but first I wanted to consult, since by rushing in the past I have left disasters in the system.
If these entries are not fulfilling any function, could they be deleted?
It looks something like this:
LMDE, with the 3.2.0-2-686
LMDE, with 3.2.0-2-686 (recovery mode)
LMDE, with the 3.2.0-2-486
LMDE, with 3.2.0-2-486 (recovery mode)
LMDE, with 2.39.0.-2-486
LMDE, with 2.39.0.-2-486 (recovery mode)
and Arch with his Fallback
I hadn't noticed, but KZKG ^ Gaara has been using debian for a long time, won't he return to archlinux anymore?
Life things
regards
HAHAHA uch… that hurt… LOL !!!
Nothing, that Arch after the last 3 updates did not get up, when I updated a kernel the system did not start ... and I wasted too much time reinstalling, now with Debian yes, I have VERY old packages, but at least I can concentrate on working and not investing time in OS things.
Exactly what was stopping me, the time to dedicate to it, I was about to start testing arch, but tomorrow I have an appointment to see a job.
regards
I did not know how to quote the comment.
haha don't worry, I fixed it 😀
Thanks for leaving my doubts stagnant, Worry about the Operating System that you occupy and not the other back licks.
For another occasion, look for another instance to get into other people's things
Man you don't have to have that attitude. Anyway I'll explain: GRUB has nothing to do with the login you want. To choose MATE, Cinnamon or Gnome Shell, you just have to select it on the login screen, that is, in the Session Manager, which in your case should be GDM3.