Greetings to all. You've surely seen me commenting since Debian and my favoritism about that distro and others with legendary stability, like CentOS / RHEL y Slackware.
To tell the truth, among the three Marys of stability, the one that has most caught my attention has always been Slackware, since many times they do not play that distro or they hardly mention it, and it is the most enigmatic I have known so far.
To begin with, the installation of Slackware, when I first got to know the GNU / Linux universe, they have always commented that the installation of Slackware was difficult (the same they say about Arch, but that is another story that @elav has previously told us in a previous post) and that is usually a headache when solving dependencies after having installed a program.
Well, many of those myths have already been discarded, and thanks to the help of writers like DMoZ who have enlightened us towards the right path to install this distro y put the finishing touches without dying in the attempt.
When installing it without remembering the DMoZ tutorial and after almost 6 years of having made a failed attempt to install it, I realized that Slackware was just as easy to install as Debian, only that the installation was [almost] assisted in its entirety, in addition to the fact that in the ISO of the DVD it even comes with the Slackbook included to be able to learn more about this distro that, apparently, almost nobody gives importance to it.
After having successfully installed it, I am surprised that the console seems to come to life, since it immediately gives me a saying, a joke, a famous phrase and / or a motivational phrase when I start it or when I go to log in. Actually, that detail has left me astonished, since in many distros, it is not seen that the user is motivated to fully enter the use of the console, also that although it follows the KISS philosophy, it really provides a tremendous facility even for configure the repos to use.
This long-lived distro has really astonished me for its modesty and ease with which it has surprised me, also that although it is Cycling Release like Debian, it gives you the possibility of being up to date with the release branch as is the case of Arch, although you may experience problems, as in Debian Testing.
Many users have been complaining lately about the current version of GNOME (3.X), but Slackware, apparently, has anticipated that fact, since in 2005 it has removed the GNOME desktop from its repos, as well as you can choose from KDE to Fluxbox, although I opted to use KDE and this distro is where I felt KDE was a feather compared to Debian and other distros. Honestly, this distro made me value KDE more than I have ever done before.
Another thing that may catch your attention is that it does not come with an artwork, since in many distros it is easily recognized by its default artwork that it includes, but in Slackware it lacks it, so it is hardly recognized by its Boot in LILO with the Slackware logo that is nothing more and nothing less than text with a mechanical typewriter font.
Although I explained its pros, now comes the turn of the cons. The first of them is the few Hispanic people who know about it, so if you want to help solve problems about this distro, you should go to register at linuxquestions.org and see if that aforementioned mess has a solution (according to the slackbook, initially Slackware had an official forum, but as it was filled with trolls and fanboys, they closed it and later declared that the linuxquestions.org forum was the official forum).
Another point against that distro is that it is somewhat tedious to put that distro into Spanish, although with the links to the DMoZ post that I left you, there should be no problem, although it still does not have the support like the one it has distros like Debian or CentOS.
Apparently, Slackware is the friendliest and easiest to manage KISS distro, although I expand with the following posts the uses that can be given to it, in addition to solving some problems such as solving dependencies through slackpkg and installing slapt-get ( a clone version of Debian's apt-get that automatically fixes dependencies based on what the repo contains) to make the process of solving dependencies less tedious, really this distro has convinced me to follow the philosophy KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid | Keep it simple, stupid in Christian) without dying in the attempt.
Hmm .. I thought it was a detailed step by step guide to installation .. Or does that come later? 😀
The detailed guide is that of DMoZ
https://blog.desdelinux.net/slackware-14-guia-de-instalacion-2/
Yes, it's true, but I thought eliotime3000 was going to make a more personalized guide for your needs, that's why I said so 🙂
I will, although with much more detail to allay fears.
The installation and configuration will come in separate articles, in addition to expanding points that have not been touched in the DMoZ guide, and I will expand the topic of using the slapt-get in order to facilitate the use of dependencies, even with slackpkg .
Greetings Elio !!!. I also thought it was a detailed article.
It will come, although for now is the introduction.
I thought it was a guide ... it comes it comes
And they will come in quantity.
I think we were all coming for the installation guide .. Hmm ..
Yes, guide ...
And the guide? ¬_¬
Just kidding, I read the article and I liked it, although for now I'm not going to try it.
Greetings.
There will be a better detailed guide, although I am preparing my Virtualbox OSE for the screenshots.
It's good that there is interest in Slackware on this popular blog, Slackware is truly a unique distribution that unfortunately few dare to use. Apart from KISS, it is the longest-lived and the most similar to UNIX.
I hope you mention a post about the advantages and disadvantages of applications that resolve dependencies during package installation.
By the way DMoZ made the installation guide look at the first paragraphs there is the link ...
Greetings.
In my humble opinion, Slackware is quite friendly to newbies when you use the terminal (if you know intermediate English, sure), and it helps you a lot to handle the kernel as if it were a tutorial.
OFF: The first thing I expected before reading the post .. was to see you comment .. xD
I did a little extensive Slackware test ... I have to say as an advantage, that it is ideal to install a server quickly and efficiently ..
On the other hand, I don't like all the packages that the full version brings by default.
Despite everything, I couldn't leave Arch anymore ... I feel very comfortable ..
I'm elav, but from an Acer Chromebook C7 that I'm testing… 😀
Well, nothing, I hope they will update us soon with a good guide to install Slackware .. 😛
Would you paste your user agent and your chrome://plugins/ to see if I can trick Netflix and be able to use it desde linux
Well, I was testing on an Acer C7 Chromebook, but I don't have it anymore .. Sorry.
I believe that since 1996 that I tried Slackware and I hit the trident graphic for weeks without raising the X I have not tried again. I suppose it will have changed enough by now to reconsider.
Type in the terminal startx and you will see what it will lift.
I am planning to buy a pc (since a laptop does not convince me about the win $, and the post from recently does not convince me either).
I had planned to put Arch + Debian + Gentoo / Slackware we'll see which one wins, but I think it will be Slackware because I don't know how to use the flags
Debian has something that makes me abandon it every time I use it, I don't know, I prefer Arch, Slackware and Gentoo which have a similar essence.
I am now on Salackware
Agreed.
Well I hate to admit it but I advise you: Arch.
Elav, let me tell you that I love how the blog is looking, I really like it very much. My sincere congratulations. Go ahead and continue supporting free software.
Thanks ^^
Arch is more Read The Fucking Manual than KISS. In addition, it is intended for those who suffer from versionitis.
And I'm already preparing the next post about the installation.
I use Arch of the main distro, both on the pc and on the laptop and on the raspberry, I have debian in the same ones as before and in a PIII, which is somewhat slow but is wheezy, surely with squeeze it would be more fluid, but I I was too lazy to put it on the usb
Pacman for slackware would be the… .., since pacman is addictive
A couple of images wouldn't have been bad. 🙂
Yes, but I put Tux with his pipe in a featured image, but I think it was too much and they put another image on it, I don't know why.
Anyway, I'll be putting Tux with his pipe in the next Slackware post.
I was referring to explanatory images. 😛
I use Slackware, its performance amazes me, which in Arch would lock my computer in Slackware I have about 20 tabs, I'm compiling and listening to music and I hardly notice a drop in performance, and that the CPU is at 100%.
I installed Slackware with Mate, of course at the beginning it leaves you a console and I compiled Mate before anything else. Everything works very well and fast,
"Slackware is a distro for Arch users who want a stable system"
Yes yes, Slackware is very nice and everything, but compiling, well I don't think so. I don't know, it's like wasting a lot of time.
Not so much ... it is true that time is wasted, but the results are seen. I used Gentoo for a while, and it's not a lie that I spent a lot of time compiling (LibreOffice?) But the performance is amazing. With the flags you optimize your apps to your needs and your hardware.
Installing MATE on Slackware is just as easy as on Debian. If you don't believe me, go to the MATE site, in its downloads section.
Yes yes, Slackware is very nice and everything, but compiling, well I don't think so. I don't know, it's like wasting a lot of time.
This sounds to me like: Yes, making love is very nice and all, but that of being "flirting" (interacting with another hominid in order to give us a little sex ...), well I don't think so. I don't know, it's like wasting a lot of time (I prefer to watch a porn and be self-satisfied).
My comment may be marked by certain prejudices:
- I have been using Slackware since 1994 (before I used SCO and BSD)
- Slack has always included "everything you need to make compiling a pleasure, simple"
- I love the stability of the Operating Systems
- I feel like I owe something important to this distribution (and to Patrick Volkerding)
- I like the simplicity (the BSD-like boot, which by the way also uses Arch, is clearer than the Systen V)
- I can't stand the "easy and fast" (that philosophy that floods the lives of millions of people in the West: "I want it easy and I want it for yesterday") ... Not even when it comes to women 🙂
- It is true that I try almost all the distributions that are "born", but I always have a Slackware OS and a BSD OS installed and they are my head systems. (By the way, other Slack-based distributions like Salix OS and / or Slackel based on the two above, are making good contributions for those who fear using a terminal).
I use it because it is the lightest I have tried so far, and it is more exquisite when it comes to installing dependencies with the slackpkg. Besides, I don't get ballsy like Arch does.
Yes, since I couldn't find an Arch LTS edition, I opted for Slackware.
Arch is stable, I have it for more than a year and without problems
1 + ..
More or less the same amount of time on both my desktop pc and my netbook..no problem .. 100% happy .. 😀
I started with Slack back in 2001/2002 with version 7. I bought at Galeria Jardin (for those who are from Buenos Aires) the box of slack that came with the Linux Essentials book. One of the best linux guides I've seen (but pure linux, almost none of the singularities of slack).
With that distro I learned, it took me 3 installations to get it working. The only thing that can complicate a newbie is the issue of partitions that must be made a little more "by hand" than with other installers, but other than that, it is an excellent distro to learn. Despite having tools for dependencies, the truth is that I don't remember having problems with them. As a server it is the most solid that exists. I think I have read that in the USA there is a song. important of people who use slack for server. And not to mention the crazy people who installed a slack 3 version or there and have been updating all the way without reinstalling (although they have had to recompile a kernel from time to time due to the hard change).
Personally I left it because I turned to test more functional distributions for a common user (more attractive, with more chiches, codecs, etc).
What slack has against it is that if you do a full installation it will install a lot of programs that you will never use (do you want ftp? Well it installs 10 clients, 5 ftpservers, and so on). You have the tools of a lifetime, each and every one. And mean that for a distro that I used a lot for the console, consuming 6 Gb of disk seemed a lot to me.
Other options based on slack could be options to consider due to having selected packages. But hey, it goes in tastes.
What if, Slack has one of the lightest KDEs that I saw, (about 154 MB of consumption when booting into slack 13, not to mention how fluid it was despite my outdated hardware). There was a time when the creator of the distro, Pat Volkerding, got sick and the releases stopped for a long time (but there was always a security update). Currently a new version comes out every 2 or 3 years, but they are tested a lot. They always come out with a well tested kernel, no versionitis or stuff.
Do you need to mount a fast server? The same slack installer lets you run Apache with Mysql and php, or the mail server running out of the box in about half an hour.
Embrace.
Thanks for advising that in the United States they use Slackware. See if I can manually install the ZPanel with Slackware.
I can see that you are excited about this article, although I admit that it was very vague on technical details.
In the following articles I will expand on several things, in addition to doing a more detailed tutorial about installation and configuration to fully enjoy it.
On the MATE site they give you the repos to install the desktop in Slackware without compiling it.
I would like to try Arch but I'm scared hahaha I'll try it in a virtual one because unfortunately I'm Archero and from there not even God moves me hehehe
Do this, as Slackware is easier to install than Arch itself.
The installation does not intimidate me ... I am intimidated by the installation of parcels and others, according to the medium I had read, mention of some slackbuild or something like that but it is not clear to me so that some day I have time I will try
No problem, I'll talk about that and how to fix that problem even with the same slackpkg.
I said that, I've been looking for a stable Arch for a long time. And well that was Slackware. Try it, I used to pay a lot of attention to the comments and in the end you realize that the experience is different from just saying it.
In fact, Slackware is much more advanced when it comes to adding specific packages. It is a marvel, besides being able to give more utility to the Alien package converter so as not to have to compile EVERYTHING as it is in the case of Gentoo which is the first cousin of Linux From Scratch.
But do you have Slackware installed on a virtual machine or am I wrong? The ideal would be to install it directly on disk and that you will detail in the guide the possible problems and / or solutions that you will find in your hardware, you see that virtualizing is not the same as fighting with graphics or sound cards that can give a lot of war. As always, very good introductory article.
For now, I have used a virtual machine, but during the installation process, use the free drivers if it is Intel, but if it is ATI / AMD or NVIDIA, use the proprietary drivers.
Slack is a distro of respect. The only problem is to update it, you have to know what you are doing, read the changelogs very carefully because surprises such as conflicts between programs can even stop working several applications.
In itself, it is MRS. DISTRO. It was the pioneer in using packages, in putting an assistant on it, in making it very easy for novice users (for now, English-speaking), and of course, in being the longest living distro that exists in the GNU / Linux universe.
While she is not so much a fan of free software, she is much more assertive than Arch and Debian combined. That is why I am using it.
The only downside
The only drawback that I encountered with Slackware during the 2 months that I had it installed on my laptop was the boot time due to LiLo. It seems to me that there is a way to configure it to improve this time and even replace it with Grub2. Excellent distribution, somewhat complex in my opinion but very good 😀
Good, you edit lilo.conf and voila (if you mean the time it gives you to select for another system or kernel)
root @ darkstar: ~ # mcedit /etc/lilo.conf (or with your preferred editor)
then you run "lilo"
root @ darkstar: ~ # lilo
regards!
Cheers! Good post, I have been using Slackware for 9 years now, and it is the one in which I have always felt most comfortable, in turn, you find more and more tricks for it, it has been a while since I installed from scratch but updated, currently I am with the kernel 3.9.10 and kde 4.10.5, out there in some update some program you already had may fail, but I solve it easily, it is really the best for me. Long live Pat !!
Yes, although I use this distro on a virtual PC for now, I plan to install Slackware on my other PC which is a P4 and for now it has XP and Debian Squeeze.
I just wanted to add that Debian also has a lot of documentation on the installation dvd. It happens that one got used to googling ...
I see in the comments that someone says: keep supporting free software!
Do not take it the wrong way, I read the blog because it entertains me, but is it really a great contribution to make one more guide, of X, Y, Z, distro? and in the comments for the umpteenth time saying the same thing, what does this one prove, the other one, it's more kiss, etc.
Even more so knowing that these distros have excellent installation manuals ...
I think yes, something contributes, but if all that energy could be channeled into something more productive it would be better.
I hope I don't sound too troll. Regards.
What happens is that Slackware does not get much attention from Spanish-speaking Linux users, plus enough myths have been formed to discourage you from trying it. Hence why it is so striking that someone comes to disprove those myths and legends that interweave this particular distro.
Long live pure Linux distributions = SLACKWARE.
I've been running Slackware on my desktop + Win8 + openSUSE tumbleweed for quite some time. Slackware is the perfect way to learn linux. In stability it is incredible, you can have the packages to their last update and without breaking the system. Packages? You have all the linux catalog that it can offer you.
Without annoying unstable repositories, here you install packages by "hand".
Yes, Slackware has a small community in Spanish, but there are already tools to learn English or translators.
Comparing Slackware to the titans on Linux (which I have tried)
Gentoo / Funtoo, very good distro, but what bothers me the most about these distros are the USEs, in Slackware there are no such horrendous things.
Debian: Every day tries to limit itself to being free.
Centos / RH: Mmm Both are excellent 😀
Although also if you liked Slackware so much, you can try Freebsd: D.
Slack is the distro that I need to install, surely I will do it in a virtual machine hahaha, but I think that out of curiosity it is what I lack since Gentoo is too much for me. But hey, personally, I'm content with trying it, and I'm currently happy with Arch.
Sorry, I think there are a lot of non-existent myths about this distro. I use it since version 7.0 (year 1999) when by chance a magazine came with the gift CD. We never part, I've tried loads of great distros, but none like Slackware. I think that for any Linux user it is really very easy to install, the packages are installed from txz packages without compiling. The only thing that if I think it is a con is that it does not resolve the dependencies of the packages so it can sometimes become tedious to install a package. But I think it's really worth it.
I did not know that the .txz packages came without compiling, since when installing, the programs appear ready to use.
Hello friends, I stayed with the thing you mentioned about debian testing and its problems I know that it has nothing to do with your post but the truth is that I have seen that in several parts first I tell you that I have not been in gnu / linux for more than 4 months and I learned Thanks to this forum and others and various information on the internet I have had stable debian testing and some will be surprised by another, perhaps not stable in my opinion, it is for servers and users who have just come from winbug and want everything normal and stable. I had big problems and the ones I had were only because I did not know some things, the dependencies are not a big problem, observe that a user of no more than 4 months told them, I wanted to have everything at the latest such as kde and some applications in terms of applications afterwards I saw that even with stable debian I could have the latest version of vlc aptitude -t experimental install package1 (obviously adding the experimental repo) with some other application they will have dependency problems eg ro I solve everything very well now I have debian sid and some dependency problem but the next update is solved and the truth is that I have been using debian sid for almost 1 month and not a problem for which I do not think that debian testing and sid is a problem It is false at least for me I have the latest version of everything and stable as testing and for my testing it is not unstable at all well I am new and I can be wrong but that is my opinion and finally debian can have the same installation complexity as others Distros like arch you just have to put expert text mode and it is customizable to the last corner from what I have seen I consider that they should, that is why the universal system can be easy or complex, stable as rock or at the end like other rolling release distros depends on the user And those who speak and say otherwise, try it, find out a little risk and give your opinion before that I think it is risky to give an opinion
To change from stable to testing and sid I did it from a clean installation I do not recommend the opposite and to go from testig to sid use apt-get that is less involved with dependencies and for normal updates aptitude to see what packages it retains and see If the dependencies that are minor are solved compared to when you go from testing to sid or from stable to sid
Greetings (I hope you do not delete my post since the previous one disappeared)
We do not delete it, it is just that the system automatically sends the user's comments to moderation if they have never commented before on the blog. Both this and your previous comment were as "Pending." Now I did delete the previous one since they are identical and there is no reason to have two the same. 😛
At the moment debian sid is stable since they have not yet uploaded new versions (for now it is the same to use sid or testing or stable) http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnome-shell&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all. When I used sid, the big change occurred gnome 2 -> 3 and the graphical boot fell directly and had many loose packages that were left from the old gnome ... We must bear in mind that they had to wait a long time to upload a new version, they were jumping gnome 2.32 - 3.2 - 3.6 without intermediates ... no wonder the instability at the beginning, which matures and remains solid as a rock every two years.
Curiously, I came here researching something else about Slack ...
The mention is appreciated, you will excuse the absence of the blog and the lack of articles on this great distro ...
At the moment I can mention that I am still in love with Slackware coated with XFCE, it looks beautiful and is a rock, from the moment I install it is still solid without the least detail about its stability, I have all the applications I need to work with my computer ...
There is no reason to fear this distro, I really recommend it, like me, they will surely fall in love ...
Cheers !!! ...
Salck has always caught my attention, I will be attentive to the publications of this distro.
I have used Salckware since I started with Linux in 1998, for me it is the best, clean and simple Distro that exists, the servers that I use in my work I install with this Distro, to date I have never had a problem with them.
Do you also use it for everyday use? What's up?
Very good!
I use it at home with KDE and it works perfectly for browsing, emailing, writing small documents, watching movies, downloading, keeping accounts, etc.
At work I failed trying to use it 100% because I was working with a team dependent on proprietary software, but the attempt was made ...
Excellent entry ^^ Just today I broke the fedora (: C) and it made me want to try slackware (to tell the truth I was scared of it).
You are right that not much is said about distribution. In fact, most posts, tuto, whatever, are very old. : /
I look forward to some guidance to use slackpkg well ^^ I want to try to use that before slapt-get 😛
Congratulations by the way!
regards