On August 20, the release of the first public version of Manjaro Linux 0.8.0 which is distributed in three editions (XFCE, Gnome and KDE) and in the two most used architectures, i686 and x86_64.
But what is it Manjaro? I leave you a small extract taken from the blog of the colleague David Gomez.
«The idea behind Manjaro Linux is to offer a distribution based on the stable Arch Linux packages, making it 100% compatible with this popular but not very friendly distribution, managing the repositories with its own development tool called Boxlt which has been designed as git. "
One of the characteristics of Manjaro is that the installation process varies somewhat with that of Arch Linux which is always the "most feared" part of this distro.
En Manjaro This process is much simpler since it has some curious modifications, which allows it to be installed locally via a DVD or USB memory, and it has a redesigned system configuration menu where you can also add your administrator user. (not root).
Also from there you can put your system in your language (Spanish from Spain, Mexico, Peru etc ...), I would say that it is super easy to install, you just have to touch a little here and there and the rest is done by itself 🙂
Another thing that I liked is that if in the start LiveDVD you choose to start with nonfree drivers (Boot Manjaro Linux with nonfree graphics drivers) It automatically installs and configures the proprietary graphics drivers for your graphics, in my case the Intel drivers.
I would say that Manjaro is Linux Mint / Sabayon / Kororaa / SolusOS de ArchLinux 😀
For more information visit the official Manjaro Linux site or to see tutorials in Spanish visit DebLinux.
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It is true that Arch is not a very friendly distro in the look & feel of the installation process given its philosophy and way of understanding and seeing things. I use Arch both on my netbook (gnome shell) and on my desktop (lxde) and the traditional installation process is very simple and you don't have to be an expert to install the core and desktop environment you want. Some of the tools used by Manjaro are already obsolete in Arch (including AUR). I've been tempted to test it and I think I'll do it on a virtual machine to analyze it. You also have to consider that Arch is on the way to systemd and the process will not take long, so I would wonder, why install a derivative of Arch when you can have Arch (this without detracting from the very good and excellent work of the guys of manjaro). But I insist, I am going to test it and analyze it and if it convinces me and it does not present problems of migration to systemd with the tools it uses, I will put it on my little daughter's netbook, because the one I have installed she loves. Congratulations to the manjaro team and I hope you succeed and achieve an Arch based distro for many years to come.
Jorge: It is true but for example personally I could NEVER install Arch and leave it in place so it always frustrated me, the installation is somewhat simple but difficult and more for a novell user, after having successfully installed it I had problems to make it start my DM and even more make it start automatically at startup, if it is true that it uses Arch tools but Manjaro is oriented to average users and to be friendly with the user and still having the KISS principles
"It's true but for example personally I could NEVER install Arch and leave it in place so it always frustrated me"
Simply follow the Unofficial Beginner's Guide to the letter (published on the wiki with a link on the front page of the distro site).
I came from using Debian, Ubuntu and Kubuntu, always graphical and automagic installations, Debian had me rotten with its old applications, it was being 1 year behind in everything, Ubuntu was doing fine (well, fine ... how well Ubuntu could work ...) but I wanted to use KDE and Kubuntu was and still is insufferable, so the option was to stick my head in a pit like the ostrich by installing another automagic distros that came with KDE or stop bloat, install the best version of KDE and learn GNU / Linux on Seriously: I had no patience with Gentoo, although I really like the distro, it makes me desperate to continuously compile everything, so Arch was the second option: BAM! It was reading The Arch Way, downloading the ISO and installing it and falling in love at first sight with how easy and conceptually simple it was to do everything! Above the installation guide takes you by the hand!
It is true, I had not tried it and I ventured to write about it only with the data explained in its forums and website. The GNOME variant has some little details but other than that it is great and very good.
Jorge, one question. Is AUR obsolete? That is, have you stopped supporting and uploading new packages? If so, I had no idea.
I was about to ask the same thing. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that sentence.
I say the same
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No, I mean that certain tools such as AIF (for example) will no longer be supported because there has not been (as I understand it) someone to give it a little tweak. The truth is, I think that the application used by the manjaro team can be modified and adapted to arch and once again have a friendlier installation environment, even if it is in text mode. In fact I use a lot of AUR to install applications that normally are not in stable repos
Ah! ok, is that in the first comment you wrote AUR when I think you wanted to say AIF, hehe, what a scare you have given us, the heart in a fist when I read that AUR had no support, ;-).
I directly thought he was talking nonsense, hahaha. Luckily it was just a misunderstanding. 😛
+1, it is good to find posts with criteria from time to time (possibly because most of those who talk about Arch Linux don't even know about GNU / Linux)
The only advantage in installing a derivative / compatible of Arch that comes canned is that supposedly "everything works" from the beginning although in reality it is a lie since when you start looking at the configuration files you realize that you need to configure EVERYTHING: the kernel line in your boot manager, all the / etc configuration files (including the new systemd, sysctl.conf, makepg.conf, pacman.conf, etc.), configure the graphical environment itself, and much more.
Be careful, not only with Arch derivatives but with any distro that supposedly comes ready to use (Ubuntu, openSUSE, etc.), if it is used as it is installed, it is taking advantage of% 25-% 30 of the power of the distro which is what a non-technical end user uses: so installing a canned distro has only two benefits:
1. get you out of trouble for a certain task at a certain time
2. install it for users who you know are going to use what they see, who are not even going to explore beyond the first or second layer of applications and settings.
In other cases, it is better to install your entire system from scratch, as in Arch, Gentoo or Debian minimal, for example, that although it takes a little longer to have it ready when you finish, you will have the system as you want it VOS and fully configured - and ready to make images that you can clone on the computers you want ... more practical than installing canned systems and then having to configure them!
Last night I installed it with XFCE, the truth is that I am surprised by the speed it has and also, for my taste, it looks very nice. I think it can be very successful. The developer team includes the one who until recently was the leader in Chakra Linux.
Another Arch distro, this one contains three desktops, this is good too, since for openbox -> Archbang (my distro together with sabayon) KDE–> Chakra, Gnome–> Kahelos and surely there are more,
install Arch following the multitude of guides that there are, it is easy well not very difficult, putting some features is more difficult but everything is sooo well documented.
Besides this the aui script that can help you install the equipment, the script looks very good
A couple of things for those who want to try it.
1) If you are going to test it on a VirtualBox, you cannot change the screen resolution to more than 800 × 600.
2) If you are going to test it on a USB, Unetbootin should NOT be used. You have to use the dd command
Correct or an Imagewriter that in the end is the same only that you have more control to be able to see its progress
You may not have installed:
virtualbox-archlinux-additions
virtualbox-archlinux-modules
Installing these packages on the guest and following the wiki will give you full VirtualBox support for any Arch Linux VM.
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That's right, in virtualized environments it is necessary to install these packages for arch to move better.
It catches my attention a bit, as if to test the Xfce version. I'll see if I dare to download it 🙂
Friend AurosZx, it would be very good if you try it, since you are an expert in XFCE and your opinion is important.
I was testing it a few days ago and I prefer Arch original. It is true that it has a simpler installation, but for a user who does not know Arch it will continue to be quite difficult to install it. Since you still have to configure the system files. For the rest, I tested it with the xfce4 desktop and it goes very well, although it is simply an Arch with certain configurations already made from the Live-CD and with some programs already installed. The good thing is that it has its own repositories, which I suppose will be compatible with Arch's.
Very good info, compa.
Manjaro is 100% compatible with Arch repos and AUR can be used with yaourt or packer as in Arch
Manjaro uses systemd. The next version, 0.8.1, which is already in development, could also bring the Spanish language in the live cd and installer. 😉
I have had the Xfce for several days and it does not run, it flies!
Although it is easier to install than Arch, you also have to play a little here and there. For the newest (among which I include myself) I left a short video tutorial explaining the installation of Manjaro step by step and in detail 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_fFi0dh30M
regards
A short video xD
hahahahaha
I tested it in a virtual machine but the version with Gnome / Cinnamon and let me tell you that it looks ultra mega horrible ... in my opinion it looks much more beautiful with XFCE even though I don't know much about that environment ..
The advantage of Manjaro is that it brings everything (codecs, applications, flash player etc) but I don't know ... I think the mother is better Arch bone even though you have to know well what to do when installing .. But however Manjaro is a great tool and aid to catapult users into the wonderful world of Arch and .tar.bz
I have been told that it is still in beta ... I don't know how true this is.
Whoever told you that he is in beta state, you tell him from me to go and comb his hair.
Manjaro 0.8.0 is the Stable. There is another version in development, the upcoming 0.8.1, which is in development and can be downloaded for public testing. http://deblinux.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/ya-esta-en-marcha-la-proxima-manjaro-0-8-1-disponible-para-descarga-la-build-de-desarrollo/
Yoyo I know that it is already quite stable but check this post on the Manjaro blog where they explain it in detail:
http://blog.manjaro.org/2012/08/22/are-we-good-for-noobs/
In itself, it is not that 0.8.0 is unstable but that the project is just consolidating and has a few errors there, I in the post of the launch of Manjaro Gnome I put a comment0 of several APPS that I would like to see by default in Manjaro and this is what they answered me
in guinux words:
«We will first focus on stabilizing our system and providing a gui-installer.
When you think about our default apps, be sure that all your suggestions will be examined. »
I just tried it on virtualbox, and I must say that with 1.5 gb of ramm it is fast, quite a bit, I surfed the internet, downloaded some files and watched some videos.
The bad thing is that when I wanted to install it, the installer did not work, I know that it is a matter of my hardware.
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The truth was that I had my doubts about this distro (as I pointed out in a previous comment) given the changes that are taking place in Arch Linux. I have downloaded it in both XFCE and GNOME 3 (Shell and Cinamon) and the truth is that I have been very pleasantly surprised. This distro includes all the changes so far generated by Arch, the AIF-style installer is very good and the best of all is that it has most of the proprietary drivers for some wireless and video cards. It is a great distro and fully compatible with Arch Linux. Another pleasant surprise is that one of the founders of chakra is part of the Manjaro project and the truth with the experience acquired by him, I believe that this distro has a promising future, especially for those who want to try Arch and are not encouraged or the installation process intimidates them. Congratulations to the Manjaro team and best wishes.
Isn't it true that Manjaro is great? XD
Let's see, "the installation process" IS ARCH, it's like with Gentoo: if someone is "intimidated" by the Gentoo installation process and installs Sabayon to say "I did it, I have Gentoo installed!" the reality is that you didn't install any brother Gentoo, you installed Sabayon.
The reality is that if you are going to use the system only through the graphic varnish that the distro presents to you (beware, the "graphic varnish is said by a KDE fan", xD) and you are going to "be afraid" of opening a terminal or use the base distro as it was conceived to use it (WTF, what is that fear? It is a computer program, not a psycho killer or a bomb to explode!), install Windows man.
Arch, Gentoo, Source Mage GNU / Linux, Gobolinux… if you only use them through a level of abstraction such that it allows you to "escape" from the base distro then you are not using that base distro, you are using what you installed for something It has a different name from the distro on which it is based, however compatible it pretends to be, do not be fooled.
Arch is simply Arch !!! Of that there is no doubt, I had cinnarch, chakra, manjaro, bridge and they really do not provide the stability that Arch gives ... It is like eating a stuffed arepa in the street to prepare it yourself to your liking, it is the same but when you taste it you notice the difference….
Haha, what a good explanation!
hopefully i can migrate from xp to linux hopefully