This new victorhck had already advanced it a week ago but now confirmed. Factory, the active development arm of openSUSE, will now also be a rolling release distribution. They say this change will shorten the stabilization process for the final versions of openSUSE.
Now the packages, before going directly to Factory (as always), will go through pre-integration tests consisting of manual and automatic reviews using the openQA platform. If they pass the tests, they would enter the Factory there. Then openQA is used again for the post-integration tests for the packages that Factory and there would end up in the versions available for users.
So openSUSE users, if you are curious for this new Factory, you can install it downloading a snapshot.
Oh by the way, if you ask about Tumbleweed I leave this other article by victorhck
Very well, what I am wondering, is how codecs and other things are installed in the factory.
Excellent, I will have to try it right now 😀
If this is going to replace Tumbleweed, I think it is a step backwards, because Factory looks less stable. And we return to my Debian article: if something fails, they will tell you that you are not in stable, ergo they eliminate a branch whose stability was tested except for proprietary drivers and other programs with modules in the kernel for something that will surely give more errors but for which they are not responsible.
On the other hand, if eliminating that branch is going to make the new stable versions more polished, it does seem like a success to me. But it gives me that that is not the objective, 🙁.
Factory existed before Tumbleweed. Like those tests that you are talking about, they have been done for a long time, it seems to me, in fact there is a way to have Factory without any automatic test, but it is more unstable.
Tumbleweed was created to have a "rolling relese" distro with the most stable Factory packages, but it is not bleeding edge, instead Factory is bleeding edge and has more rolling release than Tumbleweed, since you do not have to update a lot of packages or downgrade some every time a new stable version of OpenSUSE is released. Rather, Factory is responsible for creating the new version of OpenSUSE, since it acts as a base, but it always keeps with the latest versions of all packages, I don't know how the releases of OpenSUSE versions affected the Factory repository, but I calculate that It behaved the same as the Debian SID repository, which indicates that it is not completely rolling release, since every so often there is a very large flow of updates, instead of gradually updating the Arch-style system.
I suppose that since they say that it has now become Rolling Release, they mean that it will be updated little by little like Arch and it will not depend so much on the versions that OpenSUSE releases, although it is still the basis of them.
PS: I know I seem to be saying that Factory doesn't update a bunch of packages every time a new stable OpenSUSE version comes out, but I meant to say that it does, but that the process is simpler and there are a lot fewer packages as it always It is up to date Factory, it only stagnates a bit when the new version of OpenSUSE is about to be released, but when the new version is released they already start to try a lot of new things, that is why Factory is considered unstable, only it is considered relatively stable when the new version of OpenSUSE is nearing, as they stop trying new things and dedicate themselves to fixing bugs and problems.
Think that Factory is where the new version of OpenSUSE is "manufactured", so that's why there will be a time when it is more unstable (which would be normal) and another when it will try to be more stable (when there is little left to release the new stable version of OpenSUSE). And once the new version comes out, they will start to differentiate little by little it seems to me or they may directly send a lot of new updates and new things to try.
By the way, if they become really rolling releases, I suppose they mean that Factory is going to become independent from the stable versions of OpenSUSE, with which it will always update and not focus so much on fixing bugs at any given time, but that if they fix a bug, they do it when possible, it would be more like arch linux. So to get the new stable version of OpenSUSE maybe what they do is grab a frozen image from Factory and, from it, build the new stable OpenSUSE.
Good article, I thought about being unfaithful to Archlinux with the chameleon distro but I could not install it, Factory has a bug that does not allow me to install it on my lap (it is an Asus; if someone happens the same please tell me). I tried to test it from the stable version but I can't even enter the desktop after installing it, I don't know if it's exclusive to my lap or to someone else….
Thanks for the info. I will have to wait for it to mature a little more…. with what strikes me that it is rolling. 🙁
you can skip it using plop
http://www.plop.at/en/home.html
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Great idea from OpenSUSE. With these new package testing and update policies, the problem would be the existence of Thumbleweed.
At the end of the day, it seems that OpenSUSE is partially mimicking the stabilization process of the distro resembling Debian.
Not imitating, if not improving haha.
Yes, I thought so, but what difference does it make, as long as it is stable and works, it is better than Debian Testing haha.
Okay. I'm using Debian Jessie, and it looks like they've fully implemented SystemD at the end of July. And the boot is in a jiffy, from what I have used these last few weeks.
No, I have had a lot of problems with Debian Jessie lately, I better stick with Arch which is solved in a blink 😀
I have tried to install it, but I have not even been able to do the live usb, even with the dd command, it gives me an udf error, I do not know what XD, nor does it pass the tty
Try rufus http://rufus.akeo.ie/
There was a bug reported in bugzilla .. They have made new isos which should work: D.
I wonder if LXQt can be installed to make it my default DE. I'm interested in it being rolling-release, although now with Manjaro I'm fine 🙂
We will have to try it, what really kept me away from openSUSE was the lack of packages, that is, I invite you to look at the existence of Ettercap (ncurses version) and p0f (passive OS detector), you will see that there are available are not official, but build system and do not work, therefore between that and when I installed it I had to add at least 2 external repos that had conflicts with official openSUSE things, I said ... well ... we better get away from here. Because to have to go around building my RPM if the package is not there (many will tell me that) I do like now, using CentOS and Stella and what is not I compile it locally ...
Curious, it looks excessively like the Sabayon Linux development model (which I use):
1. Submission would be the RPM of the original software, which would be the Gentoo ebuilds for Sabayon.
2. Automatic revision or compilation would be the equivalent of the Sabayon Hell repository.
3. The manual review would be the equivalent of the Sabayon Limbo repository.
4. The switch to the official repositories (Factory) would be the equivalent to the Sabayon Daily repository.
5. The move to the stable repositories would be the equivalent of the Sabayon Weekly repository.
If the model is repeated, OpenSuse expects to eat all the RPM distributions out there in the world. With the community that OpenSuse has, uh, it's going to be the most stable and updated of all.
Hold onto Fedora!
Woww !!! I'll try it * _ *
What is the difference between "Current" ISOs and "snapshot media"? I want to try the Opensuse Factory without dying trying, thanks
Having a good connection is not so bad to continue with the new classic versions.
I'm going to try it, it's the first rolling release distro I download 😀