For all those who know me, you know that I am a restless person when it comes to trying distros, or as my friend Nano said. "I'm a top-notch jumper distro" XD, and all due to my personal search for the perfect layout ...
This time I decided to try Sabayon for the second time, leaving behind an intense romance with Chakra and a fleeting reappearance in Archlinux, which left me with a rather bitter taste ¬ ¬. But come on, let's get to what really concerns us: D.
What is Sabayon?
Sabayon Linux (formerly known as RR4 Linux / RR64 Linux (32-bit version / 64-bit version); it is an Italian distribution based on Gentoo, created and maintained by Fabio Erculiani ("lxnay") and the Sabayon Team.
Sabayon Linux differs from Gentoo Linux in that you can have a complete installation of the operating system without having to compile all the packages, since it uses precompiled binary packages. As they themselves say: "Sabayon Linux is (and always will be) 100% compatible with Gentoo Linux".
His philosophy follows two simple rules:
- OOTB (out of the box) Functionalities: There should be no problems and everything should just work.
- KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid!): Keep things stupid simple!
The philosophy Out of the box from Sabayon, makes life much easier for all those who like to have a complete system ready for action once the installation is complete. To expand the idea a little more, I will tell you that it installs: drivers, codecs, flash, wine, virtualbox and some extra tools by default that escape me. So nothing to break your head with these applications 😀
Other important points are:
- It is a rolling release distribution, so we will always be using the most current versions of our applications: D.
- It does not have a defined release schedule, as its creator says: "A new version will come out when it's ready ..", although normally there is not much time between launches;).
- You can choose between several window managers or desktop environments, such as: Gnome, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox, E17.
- Sabayon provides its own update notifier, which is called Magneto Updates Notifier
- In this distribution we can install or remove applications in two different ways, either through the Entropy Store, which is the most recommended way, or like Gentoo, using Portage. It should be noted that it is only recommended to use one of these two options, otherwise, it could cause system instability: S.
- A particularity of Sabayon when installing proprietary applications is to ask you to accept the license terms before continuing with the installation. This personally is great for me, since in this way I can see which applications are completely free and which are not.
- Sabayon does not automatically update the kernel, this is to give the user the opportunity to choose whether or not to do it, great 😀
- It has impeccable artwork work, very few distros can boast of this ¬¬.
Here are some screenshots:
What does Sabayon 8 bring back?
Although the latest version of Sabayon came out a little over a month ago, until now I had the opportunity to try it (all because of Chakra XD), but here are the features that this release has:
- Linux kernel 3.2
- Extreme-Rolling Layout
- Native support for the Btrfs file system
- KDE Software Compilation 4.7.4
- GNOME 3.2.2
- Xfce 4.8
- LibreOffice 3.4.4
- GCC 4.6
- XBMC 10.1
- Java 7
- SubVersion 1.7
- Entropy Framework 1.0 RC86
- Support for IME and non-Roman fonts
- Allows to install non-Latin languages
- More than 12.000 applications available in the default software repositories
- Cinnamon desktop manager (available in the repositories)
- Razor Qt desktop manager (available in the repositories)
- Support for ARMv7, with more than 2000 packages ready to be installed
- And many bugs corrected compared to previous versions
System Requirements
Minima:
- I686 Compatible Processor - Intel Pentium II / III, Celeron, AMD Athlon;
- 512 MB RAM for GNOME or 768 MB RAM for KDE SC;
- 8 GB of free hard disk space;
- 2D video card;
- DVD reader.
Recommended:
- Dual Core Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo, AMD Athlon 64 X2 or better;
- 1 GB of RAM;
- 15 GB of free hard disk space;
- 3D video card - Nvidia, AMD or Intel;
- DVD reader.
Installation
By having Anaconda as a graphical installer (same as Fedora has), installation becomes child's play. We just need to boot the liveDVD and start the installation. And for the most demanding, it is also possible to install in text mode: D.
Once the installation is finished, we will proceed to restart our computer so that in this way we can enjoy this great distro.
Post-Installation
Once we have logged in for the first time, Magneto Notifier will show us that we have many updates available (it may take a little time, remember that it is a recent installation;)). Before taking the initiative and running to try to update the system, we must be patient, since we still have to make some small adjustments to avoid startles and voluntary hair loss for this same reason XD.
As Sabayon recommends using the Entropy Store for application management, we will build on this. If someone wants to use Protage instead of Entropy they can follow this link Updating Entopy using Portage.
First of all, we open a terminal and do the following:
su
we enter our root password. We update:
equo update
Only if you have problems, try with:
equo update --force
Once this is done we need to update Entropy before starting the full system update:
equo install entropy sulfur equo --relaxed
We should always update equo conf after updating Entropy:
equo conf update
We update once again:
equo update
we continue:
equo repo mirrorsort sabayon-weekly
We only have to update the system:
equo upgrade --ask
During this process, it will ask us to accept some licenses before continuing with the update. The update can take from 3 to 8 hours, it all depends on the download speed of your internet provider, of course we can continue working normally while this procedure is carried out or if we wish, we can do it overnight. Do not forget that it is a recent installation and that this distro is a rolling release;). Finally we do a:
equo conf update
Once you have updated our system and before restarting, let's check a couple of things (a * in the option selected by de facto):
Let's check what version of kernel we have installed:
eselect kernel list
We check the selected video driver:
eselect opengl list
Optionally we can verify the following:
Gcc version:
gcc --version
Latest version of gcc-config:
gcc-config -l
We check that binutils is configured:
binutils-config -l
Current Python version:
eselect python list
To finish, we do a final check.
We review our dependencies:
equo deptest
We checked our libraries:
equo libtest
With all this, we can now calmly restart our computer and enjoy it: D.
Install, uninstall and search for applications on Sabayon
To perform these actions we can do it directly from the Entropy Store, which is a graphical application manager, very similar to Debian's Synaptic. Here are some screenshots:
For terminal lovers, we can do the same in the following way, we can use sudo (which is already installed) or we log in directly as root with the command su:
Install an app:
equo install nombre_de_la_aplicación --ask
This will give us the opportunity to see the package before installing.
Uninstall an application:
equo remove nombre_de_la_aplicación
if we also want to delete the configuration files of said application:
equo remove nombre_de_la_aplicación --configfiles
Search for an app:
equo search nombre_de_la_aplicación
My impressions
Sabayon is definitely a great distribution, at the level of Chakra or Archlinux, it is very easy to use and extremely comfortable for the user, just like Linux Mint or Ubuntu. As an observation, KDE in Sabayon starts consuming a little more than half of what Chakra was consuming, that means that it is highly optimized: D. Its performance is excellent and with that special feature of not updating the kernel automatically, forget about the kernel panic and from the fear of updating the kernel because your hardware may not perform the same way it used to. It goes without saying that the user only cares about install and use, something only seen in Chakra and somewhat similar to Linux Mint. Another curious fact is that it has been the only distribution that takes advantage of practically all my connection bandwidth (5Mbps) when downloading applications from Sabayon's servers, which is great: D.
Post update
There is a version of Sabayon called Sabayon Awesome y Sabayon Core. A little more info would be:
Awesome is a window manager for the X Window System developed in C and Lua programming language. The latter is also used to configure and extend the window manager. Like many window managers of the type tiling window manager (mosaic type), it does everything possible so that the user can productively manage windows without the use of the mouse.
Sabayon Core: brings as a window manager to Fluxbox.
Regarding the characteristic Extreme Rolling Release:
It means that there is an automated management of the packages in the repositories with the Entropy Matter ebuild tracker, the package manager that is available together with the legendary Portage.
P.S: Thank you @Josh y @ Daniel for the observations 😉
Sources:
Extreme Rolling Release
I'm only going to tell you two things:
1- Great !!!
2- You do know how to sell a product ¬ ¬ I even want to try it, too bad Xfce may not be as optimized as KDE 😛
I already downloaded it, but I still have not been able to check it, I will try the weekend and let you know 😉
Hello greetings, good blog, included in my favorites; ·)
I installed sabayon 8 64-bit on my new computer, I had used other 32-bit versions and although not for too long (I like gimmicks), I always liked it and had it very much in mind.
To the bull: After installing the AMD64 version, the gnome manager was amazing, but it failed in the graph, when performing the update, I get a very normal gnome, the issue is that for this type of issue and fine-tune the distro , I would like you to provide me, if you are so kind, some sabayon community in Spanish.
I'm sorry, and finally say that I love the distro at the moment since Ubuntu 11.10 and mint 12 for 64 bit disappointed me a bit. Pclinuxos, somewhat less, but neither.
Thanks and sorry again
Thanks for your comment bro. This is the address of the official Sabayon forum (in Spanish) 😉
https://forum.sabayon.org/viewforum.php?f=83&sid=6b27f765f31e0bcbcde963f0f3ad58fb
Greetings and we hope to continue seeing you here 😀
Excellent post, as always so elaborate.
Hey and what happened to Chakra? You deserted, traitor! xD
XD, I really love Chakra a lot, the only thing I can't stand is its extreme philosophy for GTK's: P, if they were more tolerant, believe me I wouldn't move it from my team 😀
If it is true, it can be very annoying, you have to improve and increase the GTK's repository, but the ones that exist are enough for me.
You're right, Chakra is very extreme when it comes to GTK and with bundles that fail every two by three ... I'll try Sabayon to see how it is.
regards
Thanks for visiting and commenting bro.
A cordial greeting ;).
Sounds good to me, to achieve a high purism.
For me sabayon is the best distro that currently exists, a short time ago it was quite unstable, but it has been improving a lot in that aspect in a short time: p
ahh and I forgot that it is one of the distributions that I have tried that works best with btrfs, which I also quite like
Having known it before XD, I have already wanted to try it for a long time, but I could not because of the stability doubt. Thanks for the data and greetings 😉
I've been using it with btrfs, the kernel version of sabayon is quite well treated for heavy loads and also in a month of btrfs I have not complained, although there are still programs to use this file system well, I do not know if it is the moment to go to this file system in a serious way, in any case sabayon is a very interesting distribution and with a very friendly forum in Spanish
Most likely, sabayon will not come with Nepomuk and maybe akonadi at the beginning. The updates seem to be a bit awkward from what you count: /
Believe me that nepomunk is de facto active.
You mean "default". But hey, as long as you don't say "by default" (pronounced "by default", that is, bad), all good.
Congratulations on the Sabayon article, it is very interesting and makes you want to try it.
Hello, would you pass me the download link is that your website is all bundled I want the dvd for amd 64 bits with kde salu2
Direct download:
ftp://mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/sabayon/iso/Sabayon_Linux_8_amd64_K.iso
ftp://mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/sabayon/iso/Sabayon_Linux_8_amd64_K.iso.md5
Torrents:
ftp://mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/sabayon/iso/Sabayon_Linux_8_amd64_K.iso.torrent
Greetings 😉
For me it is my second favorite distro, behind Mint12, because of the PPAs, because what works is better in Sabayon.
I would think the same as you said and add three little things:
1.- great community, IRC and forums, not by size, but by wisdom, I learned thanks to them to use su instead of sudo, and much later patches were released for various sudo problems
2.- what is not in Sabayon, if in gentoo it can be installed with EMERGE, but if they incorporate it later, they will update it from equo, which has an excellent backup system for your packages. For example, Chrome is in the gentoo repos, but not in Sabayon's, which only has Chromium.
3.- The kernel is compiled at 1000 Hz and not at 100 Hz like Ubuntu's, it shows in the speed
3. 1/2 Gnome Shell and Cinnamon with ATI catalyst are going to give a screenshot from time to time, but much better than Ubuntu OO and in Ubuntu PP whatever they go - known and repeated bug of system crash when playing videos -. They have done a trick although I don't know which one.
That data I did not know, it is quite interesting. Thanks for sharing 😉
So that people do not get confused, nothing more. Sabayon is not the same as installing Gentoo in 5 minutes ... Sabayon packages are precompiled, the grace of Gentoo is that you can compile it yourself, optimizing the code for your processor, and also, when compiling the kernel you can compile only the drivers what you need ... in short, whoever dares with Gentoo will do better, and although they are supposed to be 100% compatible, you have to be careful, because Sabayon uses its own package tree, so to speak, yes You have a problem in Sabayon and you are looking for the solution in the Gentoo forums. The solution may not be valid, it all depends on what the problem is. Salu2
A very good article, I am currently using the version with xfce and it works very well; it consumes very few resources and is excellent (in my personal opinion). There is a version called CoreCDX, which I think can be installed similarly to Archlinux. Do you have any information on that version?
Thanks for the article and the commands.
what they say about this version is that it is; the Sabayon 8 CoreCDX that comes with Fluxbox
That's right, as my comrade says Keopety, the Core version comes with fluxbox, whether you want to use this window manager, need it for a team with limited resources or it could be an excellent option for a server;). You can even use it to create your own personalized version of Sabayon 😀
sabayon .... what to say about it! It is if not the distro that most impressed me at the time when I first tried it, I do not remember how many years ago, but more or less 7 to 8 and it continues to be, I do not know what it has but I like it.
In terms of image and style for me there is no one who beats him, one thing that costs me about sabayon is the commands, for me they are very cumbersome, this and that when I tested it on my brand new laptop, I could not install the drivers for my graphics a new ati at the time, but I think it's time to give this distro a chance and see its potential now, ……
From version 5.5 I think sabayon is no longer necessary to install the drivers for the graphics or Wi-Fi also at that time it was not equipped that greatly facilitates all tasks related to packages, since it is not necessary to use portage: p, I tried this distribution in version 4 when it was necessary to use portage for packages and I was not able to keep it stable for a long time with equo everything has changed a lot
Yes, when I tried it I had little time and I also had Linux so imagine how it ends, but I liked it more than Ubuntu, which was the first one I tried
is that portage is amazing but knowing how to use it has its merit, you have to be careful with many things and the panic kernels came out every 2 by 3 after a medium important update if you do not know what you are doing, with equo all the configurations have been alone and You just have to update without worrying, little by little it is being really stable and equo is becoming one of the best package managers I have ever seen, although that is a personal opinion, in theory it is the easiest to use rolling release kde
one thing, does anyone know what sabayon awesome is and what they said about sabayon 8 which was the first extreme rolling release distribution? I didn't understand those things at the launch of sabayon 8: s
Awesome is a window manager for the X Window System developed in C and Lua programming language. The latter is also used to configure and extend the window manager. Like many window managers of the type tiling window manager (mosaic type), it does everything possible so that the user can productively manage windows without the use of the mouse.
Here is a screenshot:
http://ur1.ca/8pi0w
Source: http://ur1.ca/8pi16
What of "Extreme-Rolling Release", means that an automated management of the packages of the repositories is carried out with the ebuilds tracker Entropy Matter, the package manager that is available together with the legendary Portage.
Source: http://ur1.ca/8pi39
I hope I got you out of the doubt 😀
Finally a tutorial of a not so popular distro but that they say is excellent, I think it is very important that Linux sites stop giving so much time to Ubuntu, Linuxmint, Fedora, OpenSuSe etc., it is good that new users have documentation of the manageable distros, but it is also important that those who are already on Linux and want to take a leap can have a tutorial as God intended, and I say it because it is difficult to find a good tutorial from Sabayon and above all updated.
Thanks for the comment comrade, a pleasure to have you here 😉
You're welcome, comrade, with what environment do you have Sabayon? If it is not a nuisance or a violation of your privacy, could you give us a screenshot of your Sabayon desk to see how it looks, as a colleague from the distro said, I am also comfortable with Arch. Greetings ..
The post images are from my desktop, from what you can see I have KDE on my computer: D.
regards
I also like KDE, apparently you also like minimalism, you have it well native, in my case I like conky and luckily I have had problems with transparency, and the desktop I leave it free of icons, I put them better in the panel (Chromium, Konsole and dolphin), I just use the analog clock and that's it.
I'm Italian and it's hard for me to say it, but really kde never started well on my laptop, the live dvd desktop and the gnome shell were always loaded, imagine how it was going with the proprietary drivers, for now I have no intention of trying it again, soon I will have my intel with an nvidia and that's it XD.
Yes, it's because of your ATI card, if I remember correctly. Many distros have that same problem.
I installed it in February when it came out, from the live dvd it runs fine but when I installed it I never got up the graphical environment so it was disappointing.
I also want you to buy an acer aspire 4750-6625 laptop that brings windows 7 and a recovery partition and neither fedora 16 nor alpha 17, it raises the graphical environment for me, as for ubuntu 11.10 and ubuntu 12.04 it does not install the kernel so i'm losing faith. Fortunately Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit if I manage to install without problems but I wanted to have something more current and 64 bit since my laptop is a core 5 with 6 ram and I wanted to get the most out of it, the truth is I feel very disappointed
The problem itself is not one of the distros you tested, it is due mostly to your type of hardware. Read this article from my friend MoskosovMaybe I can be of use to you
https://blog.desdelinux.net/nvidia-optimus-en-tu-portatil-con-linux-instalando-bumblebee/
Greetings 😉
Perseus I thank you for your willingness to try to help but my laptop does not have a dedicated graphics card because it has an Intel 3000 graphics chip or something like that, well now if it is colder than a pallet
I wonder how its support will be for Xfce / LXDE… Because the truth seems like a very interesting distro to try.
"The update can take 3 to 8 hours" This surprised me.
God patience with this distro. 😀
What I liked EXTREME ROLLING RELEASE.
What a good distro compadre 😀
Does anyone know of any fedora community in Spanish ??
This distro has always winked at me, but I have never dared to try it. I've been very comfortable with Arch for too long now. Maybe when I get mad I will try it at last.
I love this distro, it is among my favorites, the visuals are very successful (I love the startup animation of the bar, it is one of the simplest and at the same time successful that I have seen), and I like how well and fluid it goes everything.
It's cool that you post about other distros, and more about Sabayon, I think it's great and it doesn't have the prominence it deserves, just like its "mother" Gentoo.
I tried it but in the end I did not like it, I jumped from Chakra to Sabayon 8 and equo does not compare with pacman xD.
Now I'm in Pardus 2011.2 and who would say that TÜBITAK's daughter would be the one to steal my heart, it hurts that I was late with her and now her future is not known TT_TT
A long time ago I also installed Sabayon, I don't remember which version and I was also surprised by some things: I also liked the way of installing the kernel and it has a philosophy of doing things in a very simple way, which in most of Distros, if not all, x things are done in one way because it is Sabayon, following their philosophy, it is done in another way, for example, if I remember correctly, I think that to configure the startup of an application there were no different init3 or init5 execution levels there it was done differently. I was a bit surprised by those details because I had never seen it, I don't know how things will go now.
What I did not like is that it installs too many applications by default and loads the system with many folders, for example the user's home which does not happen in other distros and I did not see kde very fluid to be a derivative of gentoo and a higher consumption memory and some problem with the updates due to its rolling system although this I suppose will happen with all.
Hello, the comment is somewhat outdated but hey.
1st When I read it I wanted to try it
Now that I am installing the OS on my pc I was encouraged and I am liking it a lot, I am lazy to put it to update since it is time to sleep and I do not like the "noise" of the pc, I have installed xfce and I like the first impression that I'm watching, I tried Xubuntu and I didn't like it
PS: good post and it helps a lot what to do after installation
Hello, has been read this post and install it. I have to say that at first I had problems with the damn ATI Radeon card, but I solved it thanks to the help of the community.
Conclusion: for me this distro is revolutionary, several years with opensuse, 1 year with Ubuntu and this is the one that will stay! I am delighted ! and it is also a rolling release 🙂
I can only thank this blog for having "sold" me this marvel.
A greeting.
On the contrary bro, thanks to you for reading us :-D.
Cheers ;-).
lorenzo .. how did you solve the problem with the ATI RADEON card? .. I have an ati radeon HD 4670. I installed the sabayon 9, I did everything that says above, but after the installation and post-installation .. when restarting the The machine does not raise the X, and in the console when I write aticonfig –initial I get the legend devices not detected, and in /var/log/Xorg.0.log I get the following
[77.730] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[77.746] (II) Loading PCS database from / etc / ati / amdpcsdb
[77.746] (EE) No supported AMD display adapters were found
[77.746] (EE) No devices detected.
Can someone give me the links to download Chakra 2012 KDE and / or Sabayon 8 KDE both 32-bit ISO? Please I want to try those 2 distros
is there a large community in Spanish? I only saw the official one in English, but I didn't see many Spanish-speaking users who use it
I already have it installed but I'm afraid I won't be able to install my hybrid card since in Ubuntu I did know but here I have no idea I hope to be lucky, you could upload a tutorial for that question
Any PDF of the use of Entropy or Portage?
I've read the Sabayon wiki but I don't understand much!
Thank you!
Wonderful!! Thanks for the input. He has always "called" me Sabayon. Now I'm going to test it. Thanks friend
Hi my friend. I just installed sabayon. In an hour I have updated it. The problem is that Entropy does not open for me. I stick it and nothing. You asked me for a password. First I have put the uzuario, and nothing. Then I put the root password. The window that asks me for the password disappears and nothing else happens. Can you tell me something? Thank you and sorry for the trouble
With MATE it looks perfect! I'm loving it on VBox, we'll see what I do… 😛
hello, I have had the problem that after updating the system it simply gets damaged, the following appears: oops something went wrong and the system can not recover. Can someone tell me why ??? after not being able to recover my system and after installing it several times I installed arch. but I have the bad feeling of knowing what happened, because I had been using sabayon for a long time.
I have a query, I have to configure the video drivers (I have a SIS card). I can't find a way to install the packages I need to compile as it is done in sabayon to install them? = S
Taking out XFCE, none of the other desktops I like. Do you have any application to remaster your iso ??? I better continue with my Point linux where I have everything I need.