Slackware 14: Taking Down the Monster

Surely the majority of users GNU / Linux They have started their walk down the penguin trail with some easy-to-use layout.

In my case, as in many others, it was UbuntuAs time went by, I tried many distributions, perhaps almost all the existing ones at the time, going through the BSD and Solaris available, but the voices and texts of many users penetrated my head curiosity because the special complexity of three distributions: Arch Linux, Slackware y Gentoo.

Then I decided to test them using them for a time as base distributions, the first turn corresponded to the very famous distribution Arch LinuxWonders were raved about its performance, about the power of its package manager (pacman), its versatility, and its KISS philosophy.

It was certainly a complex task to install and configure, but it is also true that pacman It gave that extra that made you feel comfortable, after a while with Arch everything fully configured and walking was almost perfect. But the time has come that for the sake of progress in my knowledge I decided to give now the opportunity to Slackware.

There are many words that I had heard, "Compile", "Complex" and a lot of etceteras that all they did was create the image of a kind of distribution monster in my mind.

Determined to fight the great battle, I started to download Slackware 14, the first obstacle It came my way, I couldn't find an installation guide for version 14, so I grabbed one for version 13.37 and got to work, some things were a little different during the installation process, but what was my surprise what after "a few" minutes I already had Slackware 14 installed with KDE As a desktop and working 100% I couldn't believe it, the ease with which it was installed really blew me away, although I must mention that some not-so-basic knowledge is needed to accomplish such a feat.

Until now everything perfect, however, it was time to install the applications I needed for my day to day, despite the fact that Slackware in its full installation has a large selection of packages  ready to be used as audio and video players, office automation, internet, etc., there are some that are not available on the DVD and then, "Houston, we have a problem", he next challenge, the installation of packages.

Gathering information dropwise in our language, I was unraveling the secrets of package handling, but it wasn't until I discovered those little cherubs that they made my love for slackware will overflow, it almost seemed like a heavenly revelation, some kind of epiphany, the magic words for this "Slackbuilds" y  "Sbopkg" - which I will talk about in a later article - that's when everything changed, the simplicity with which the packages were installed left me so stunned that even though I go for Gentoo, I believe that Slackware and I will have a very long lasting relationship.

Something we owe take into account if we want to interact with Slackware, is that the package handlers that we can use, for the most part, do not resolve dependencies, in addition to the compilation time that can be used for certain packages and the little information in our language.

But like I always say It is not that there are complex distributions, it is that there are lazy users. Especially those who overflow laziness about research, about reading.

In conclusion, Slackware went from being that monster that they had built in my mind, to one of the most beautiful things with whom I have had the pleasure of crossing on this path of freedom, the path of the penguin.


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  1.   DMoZ said

    This morning I was just writing the installation guide for Slackware 14, in fact the first lines of this article were written thinking about it, but the words kept flowing until I decided to make this an independent text, I hope if time allow it, tomorrow have that installation guide here ...

    With regard to everything else necessary to have a more "manageable" system, I already have a very complete article on the matter, it is taken from another place with the express consent of the original author ...

    Cheers !!! ...

  2.   msx said

    Good post!

  3.   mr linux said

    I have precisely the Slackware 14 DVD on my work table and I had not installed it because I could not find a good tutorial, it would be good if you could make a guide on the installation of this important distribution. Very good your observations and impressions on Slackware 14.

  4.   davidlg said

    That, a guide would be very nice

    1.    tannhausser said

      A few weeks ago, coinciding with its launch, I installed it following this complete guide for Slackware 13, with hardly any difficulties:
      http://nestux.com/blog/tutorial-de-instalacion-de-slackware-13-0

      I only had it a few days in virtualbox but it seemed like a very stable and reliable distro, so I'm looking forward to seeing those entries about sbopkg and slackpkg to know it a little better
      Regards!

      1.    mr linux said

        Thank you.

    2.    Martial del Valle said

      Anyone who has done an archlinux installation is in a position to successfully install slackware, now another thing is the installation of applications and some necessary configurations.

  5.   abimaelmartell said

    I thought it was a guide XD

  6.   Hyuuga_Neji said

    I used Gentoo once but despite its configurability I have never liked the idea of ​​having to compile almost everything, however I join a Slackware installation guide (which if they let me have XFCE or LXDE)

  7.   jorgemanjarrezlerma said

    How about DMoZ. You know I haven't used slackware in years. The last version I used was 4.0 (1999) and then a sharp change to 7 (because 5 and 6 were not there). The truth required some work to install it but afterwards it was a pleasure. It is an excellent distro and the truth once you are located is like any other. Gento makes me lazy just thinking about it in addition to being somewhat careless about the distro.

    For my personal taste the package manager is the heart of the distro and to my personal taste, arch pacman is very advanced and polished when compared to how things are done in Slackware. Of course, the latter does not detract from this distro (I used it for a long time and I loved it), but as I say, it is a matter of taste.

    Excellent post and it would be good if you wrote a small tutor of the installation process.

    1.    DMoZ said

      Greetings Jorge.

      Sure, for color tastes.

      I agree with you about the package manager, but in Slack it is very simple knowing how to handle it, I will talk about it later.

      Installation guide in progress.

      1.    jorgemanjarrezlerma said

        You know, as I told you a long time ago that I have not used it (12 years approximately) and I see that the installation process is "almost" the same. I have a relatively old PC and I think I will install it (but I will put XFCE on the machine) to do a good installation exercise, quite outside the current canon (GUI's). Although I am in love with Arch Linux and it is my base distro, the installation process is somewhat "different." I will install it to remember old times and especially because it was the first linux distro I used.

        Greetings and I hope that you will soon post the installation tutor to us.

  8.   Blaire pascal said

    The only monster I still have in my mind is called Gentoo, although Slackware seems to be a distro for the non-end user XD, it strikes me.

  9.   diazepam said

    If you ever happen to talk about Gentoo, you have to do an article on kernel compilation and USE flags. They say it's the hardest part of the whole system

    1.    diazepam said

      Correction. The most complicated part of the installation.

      1.    msx said

        It is the easiest actually, you just have to know what you are doing.
        In Gentoo there is no fixed recipe to compile the kernel -AKA configuration file- but rather following the philosophy of the distro, each user compiles their kernel according to their needs.

        If you don't feel like compiling your kernel or you don't have time, many times it is suggested that you directly use other already compiled kernels such as the one from SysRescCD or, for servers, the Ubuntu kernel.

        1.    anti said

          But does it distribute the standard kernel or are there others by default? I would be interested with Linux-CK, but hey.

          1.    x11tete11x said

            sys-kernel / ck-sources [Masked]
            Latest version available: 3.6.2
            Latest version installed: [Not Installed]
            Size of files: 80,503 kB
            Home Page: http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/ http://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/ http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/ http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
            Description: Sources for the. linux kernel
            License: GPL-2! Deblob? (freedist)

          2.    msx said

            Louis CK is much more fun.

            Louie Louie Louie Louieeeee, Louie Louie Louie Louaaaaa !!

  10.   hexborg said

    Slackware was the first distro I tried back in my college days. That was what there was and the experience was very good. But now, the fact that the package managers that it has do not resolve dependencies pulls me back. For the moment I stay with arch. What I would like is to install a Linux From Scratch. That really has to be cool. 🙂

    1.    hi iam said

      Hence the `kiss' philosophy, pacman -Sy && pacman -S file-name;

      I doubt …

  11.   Gebra said

    I have used Slackware since version 7.0 and I must admit that your comment is very close to reality. Beyond the fact that the installation is done in text mode, it does not present too many difficulties since there are only a few questions. If I think that a weak point is the partitioning of disks that in graphic mode is much more comfortable.
    Its big drawback is really the dependencies, they take a lot of time at times. But this distro reveals how linux works so internally that you learn much more than with any other. I have gone to many others (Debian is excellent and Ubuntu too) but I always end up coming back.

    1.    DMoZ said

      We agree that Slackbuilds are pieces of heaven in this regard, in the article regarding the installation of packages I will explain how we can make the work of the dependencies more bearable through sbopkg.

      Cheers !!! ...

    2.    msx said

      Slack is not for people who use graphical installers so I don't find partitioning "lazy" at all.
      If you use GPT instead of MBR with GNU / Parted you won't have any problem partitioning - in fact I did it to align the sectors of my new 4 kilos HD.

      If you still use MBR cfdisk is the most comfortable tool in the universe and its surroundings.

  12.   kik1n said

    MMM I don't recommend Gentoo as a base distro and even less on a portable one.
    I recognize its complexity, stability and number of packages, but it takes forever to install a basic package, now if you are going to update KDE (OO). Today we all want things now, ready for action.

    Talking about slackware, I am fascinated, it is very stable and current, but the dependencies lol.

    Now I have installed Arch for almost a year, I really see power over it and always have current and stable packages, I see few as arch.

    regards

    1.    DMoZ said

      Of course, Gentoo has it in mind for the extra knowledge it can bring me, the Linux world is my world = D, I plan to dig deep, we'll see where the path takes me.

      Like I said, I think Slack and I will have a long relationship = D ...

      About Arch I can't really say more than just good things, at first it can be a challenge, but after a while it is also wonderful ...

      1.    msx said

        Do you want to dig and go a little crazy on the way?
        http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/index.html

        There you have to entertain yourself ... and really learn GNU / Linux - everything else is just the tip of the iceberg and the way each distro is handled, just that.

        1.    DMoZ said

          I had already heard the term, although I had not investigated about it, now I have done it and this is noted as another of the pending issues that I must address from now on, thanks for the information.

          Cheers !!! ...

      2.    kik1n said

        It's what I think of gentoo, extra knowledge, just that.
        It will use very little slackware, but if I have time I will install it.

    2.    x11tete11x said

      I would like to know why you do not recommend it ... A slightly more solid argument ... I have it on my notebook, a Sony vaio, compiled with -O3 and with a kernel to which I made 1000 achurias, low latency, interrupt frequency, and how many options that I find it interesting (in 3.6.6) ... I'm sorry to disagree, but the "we all want things now, ready for action" speaks for you hahaha, you don't install packages all the time, the time it takes me to compile all of Gentoo (3/4 of a day) returns it to me every day, by far the fastest distribution I tried, and KDE takes 2 hours to compile, Gentoo saves you a lot of headaches, appmenu and all those things that cost outside of Ubuntu an egg to make them work, they walk as if they had been developed for Gentoo, on the other hand, nobody forces you at the point of a weapon to watch how it compiles ... Uu

      1.    msx said

        You have good heating!

      2.    medina07 said

        I could not agree more with you. I did the complete installation of Gentoo including the KDE desktop in 4 hours and 27 minutes (taking into account that I took a few moments to prepare the occasional cup of coffee, as well as the revision from time to time of the installation guide), for what time could have been less; From there to the installation of the applications that I usually use, such as: VLC, Caliber, XBMC, among others, it took just a few minutes ... so everything depends on the performance of your computer and the internet connection that is possessed.
        An important point when installing Gentoo and I imagine that it would also apply in Slackware is to know the hardware of your computer because based on that information is that you will have a custom system, as it will not be a standard installation to common computers , but it will be exclusive according to your needs, not one more package and not one less and a custom configuration.

        1.    hi iam said

          I believe the installation time the rest, tall tales.
          You haven't recompiled anything.

      3.    kik1n said

        Hi.
        I am not slandering or against gentoo, only that it is somewhat tedious or "slow" to install programs and systems.
        When I installed gentoo on my laptop, I was fascinated. It is stable, Current in some packages, etc…, But it took hrs in the base kde installation.

        Instead arch, in 30 min with kde running and several applications.

        Just say.
        Gentoo consumes me time, of which arch I take advantage of.

        1.    lucas said

          If we see it from that side, ubuntu and linux mint are much better than Arch and Gentoo XD

      4.    Angel_Le_Blanc said

        I am already convinced of what x11tete11x says, in particular that of compiling.
        It takes a long time to get Slackware running with all the packages, but it's worth it, everything works very well and smoothly.
        In my formula my magic trio would be Gentoo, Arch and Slackware, but for now I left Gentoo because my computer is low on resources, in the future I will use Gentoo again.

  13.   helena_ryuu said

    slackware is a veteran in linux distros, in my distro hopping days it never occurred to me to try it, and now that I use arch…. I look interesting slack, it's like gentoo, I feel that the only thing I would gain is some knowledge and a lot of time wasted, because arch is more than enough, some day, in the future, I will install slack or gentoo to test my patience and knowledge ^^
    by the way, excellent post!

    1.    msx said

      If you have pacmanitis, you won't last a week in Slack where everything stays exactly the same throughout the days.

      Penelope...

      1.    helena_ryuu said

        Oo well when I thought about robustness debian came to mind and but I must ask, in slack do you have newer packages than in debian?

        and I don't think I suffer from pacmanitis xD I just said that I already settled in arch, and I spend more busy doing "normal user" things (documents, web, programming, image editing, anime and manga, downloads, listening to music, blah blah blah) but it's not that I can't really learn to use slack, I read the installation guide and it's not a big deal, just like gentoo's, just that you have to be more careful than in an installation of a "common" distro.

        although the knowledge that I could acquire is really invaluable… .. now I feel it as a kind of personal challenge ñ_n hahaha
        cheers!

        1.    msx said

          "Well when I thought about robustness, debian came to mind and but I must ask, do you have newer packages in slack than in debian?"
          What do you define as robustness !?
          Virtually any of the established distros are "robust", the entire Arch infrastructure runs on Arch servers (obviously, of course) and that I know nothing ever stopped running =)

    2.    DMoZ said

      Indeed, as msx says, pacman is something that can be missed, also the rolling release, but when they tell you that Slack is robust and stable, believe me, they are absolutely serious ...

      Cheers !!! ...

      1.    msx said

        And besides being robust and stable, it is the GNU / Linux distro that is most similar to Unix that exists, if you want to deactivate a daemon so that it does not start at startup, all you have to do is remove execution rights from the script, simpler ...

  14.   medina07 said

    Good post DMoZ. And I do not agree with any of the comments above, both Slack and Gentoo are not wasted time ... it is the opposite, and no, Gentoo is not a distro that is neglected, it happens that it is not used by the majority either out of fear or lazy, but its users and developers remain at the foot of the canyon.
    Most GNU / Linux users are afraid to try this type of distribution for mere unfounded myths ... In my case and without being an advanced user, I have installed both Arch Linux and Gentoo using the guide offered by each of them in their respective websites and I have not encountered those difficulties that are so much touted in the GNU / Linux ecosystem.

    1.    DMoZ said

      Thank you.

      I have tried to install Gentoo a few times and if I have not finished doing it for something it is because of the time that the installation could take, which although it is not so complex if you have certain knowledge, it can be laborious. I also agree that with you, Gentoo is not neglected, on the contrary, being a distro rolling release as you point out, the developers and their large community are at the bottom of the canyon ...

      I have also relied on the guide on your wiki and it is "simple" to follow, well, Gentoo is a pending issue ...

      Cheers !!! ...

    2.    x11tete11x said

      +1 how it bothers me that they say that Gentoo is careless because it does not give you the "next next next", and those who talk about compilation time, I ask, is there a guy with a gun next to him forcing them to see how it compiles everything?

  15.   doc said

    Well, I disagree with the initial comment that 'it is not that there are complex distributions, it is that there are lazy users'. I rather believe that what there are are users, let's call them, 'normals', who want to install a Gnu / Linux operating system that makes their computer and their favorite applications work without major problems or efforts, and some users , let's call them, 'research lovers' (in other times they would be called' geeks') who love to occupy their time building (compiling) or adjusting the operating system, so that for them it is almost 'the end' and not 'the medium 'to use the PC, and its applications.

    So they are two very different user profiles, both very respectable, and that can coexist perfectly without the need to despise anyone, because the great advantage of Linux is that there are distributions for all tastes ... and for each one to choose the preferred niche ... even for every moment of your life.

    1.    DMoZ said

      Of course, and in short I am not referring to "normal" users because they limit themselves to using the simplest and most efficient distribution they can find, I myself go through life recommending Linux, and obviously I do not recommend the three that I mention in the article nor others that present some difficulty to those users.

      And with respect to the other point, you don't have to be a "geek" to be a lover of research, I say, under the strict sense that is given to the word, for example in my case, I practice a martial art tàijíquán, I go to gym, I play basketball, I work, I play Gears of War and I still take time for my friends = D… It's just a matter of approaches…

      Cheers !!! ...

    2.    msx said

      I think he always talks about technical users.

      It is obvious that my girlfriend is not going to install any distro that is not absolutely graphic ... and not even that. "Normal" people, as you mean, I suppose they refer to the "end user"; for these users, even the Windows or Ubuntu installer - the best installer in the history of the OS - is complex.

  16.   Ñandekuera said

    I would rather say, it is not that linux is complex, it is that there are lazy programmers ...

    1.    DMoZ said

      I do not agree.

      The distributions have different users to whom they are directed, for example Arch and Gentoo take the KISS philosophy to the limit and it is really appreciated, as well as the simplicity of SolusOS for example.

      Cheers !!! ...

    2.    proper said

      Do not believe. When programming for the end user, the most difficult thing to program is the simple and intelligent interfaces. I remember once I had to program a search engine for a client's system and I came up with the brilliant idea of ​​making a simple search engine, using only a textbox and a button, the algorithm that I had to create to make the search engine "intelligent" it was an odyssey.
      In short, the easier and simpler for the end user, the more difficult it will be to program.

      About the post:
      Very good, it made me remember when I was using Slackware and I agree with you in everything you say.

      regards

      1.    msx said

        Excellent, finally a comment from someone who knows ...

      2.    Ñandekuera said

        "In short, the easier and simpler for the end user, the more difficult it will be to program."
        That's exactly what I meant 😉
        It seems to me that accusing the user of being lazy is not a good programmer.

  17.   x11tete11x said

    Danger, if you install Gentoo you are in danger of becoming addicted, says another addict hahaha

    1.    DMoZ said

      Yes, something similar has happened to me with Slack xD ... We will see later what adventures and misadventures I bring you with respect to Gentoo ...

      Cheers !!! ...

    2.    msx said

      If you like source-based distros try Source Mage GNU / Linux, it's excellent.

      1.    x11tete11x said

        : Or, I've been looking at her very closely, what's up? did you have any experience? it's good? if so, did you try Lunar? It is based on Source Mage, I speak from ignorance, I never used them, I do not know if they are current or what is up 😀

        1.    msx said

          And ... the "good" thing is subjective, I think the best thing about the distro is the community, they are a bunch of very friendly nerds who have always been linked to the distro or source-based distros.

          A little clarification: both Source Mage GNU / Linux and Luncar Linux are forks of Sorcerer Linux, an _excellent_ source-based distro that although it was open development, the copyright was kept by its creator and one day he decided to close it and download it for a while. the net without -as everyone says- give any explanation.

          At that time it was decided to forge the distro into Lunar Penguin (later Lunar Linux) and Source Mage was created separately using a bunch of Sorcerer Linux backups, the rest is history: http://wiki.sourcemage.org/SourceMage/History

          As an interesting anecdote from the time I installed it -when I was investigating what was that about source-based distros- I liked a particularity of the package manager and that is that you can compile your packages using the USE flags in the Gentoo style or You can also interactively choose the flags you want to use for each package at build time.

          Sorcerer Linux site: http://sorcerer.silverice.org/
          Undoubtedly this sentence sums up everything about the feelings of the Sorcerer Linux developer and in general of the users of the source-based distros with respect to the rest of the distros: «Since each sorcerer box compiles nearly all the installed software each box has functional software development tools and header files. Watching boxes build and update provides assurance that the installed libraries and software works together instead of having a box built from pre-compiled binaries stapled together into something that resembles Frankenstein's monster. »

          Regards!

  18.   Manuel said

    Yes, I have heard excellent comments from Slackware, as well as being one of the parent distributions out there. For example SLAX or Puppu. Which are based on Slackware, do they occupy the same commands and packages as SLACKWARE? What I install or write in one, works for me in the other?

    1.    DMoZ said

      Slackware is perhaps the "most Linux" distro that exists, its KISS philosophy (keep it simple stable, keep it simple and stable) refers to the simplicity of the design, without excessive tools, therefore the commands are the usual ones, except for the handling packages that are different in each "parent" distribution but almost always "inherited" to the children, as well as the location of their configuration files ...

      Cheers !!! ...

      1.    msx said

        Plus it predates Debian by several months!

  19.   Chango said

    Hi Dmoz, if you liked sbopkg and slackbuilds, you will like slapt-get, the apt-get from slackware, much more. It comes by default in a great slackware-derived distro called Salix OS. Its repository has dependency resolution through slap-get, in addition you can install packages made with slackbuilds (or if you want with a system similar to arch scripts called "slkbuild") through a graphical utility called Sourcery. Everything is 100% Slackware compatible.

    1.    DMoZ said

      If I have already had the opportunity to interact with slapt-get, slapt-src and Sourcery, as I mention in the note, not all their package managers solve dependencies, leaving that little hole for these tools of which of course I will write more ahead.

      Cheers !!! ...

  20.   martin algañaraz said

    Slackware 7.1 was the second version of linux that I installed on my computer (the first was a version of linux that came to me as a gift in a magazine), slackware is beautiful if you want to know in depth the administration and configuration of the system, bring many apart scripts that make your life easier. Although in version 14 it would have to solve the dependencies alone, I see that as a major flaw. Open to try it to see there again, Thanks for the article 🙂

  21.   LU7HQW said

    As soon as Slack 14 came out, I downloaded it and installed it. I've used Slackware 12 and really liked it, then I used a couple of Slackware-based distros (Slax, Vector Linux mostly). But I have become somewhat "hard" not to use GNU / Linux and it is costing me an arm and a leg to configure the resolution of my monitor, which is 1440 x 900. Apart from having little and no time to dedicate to it.
    And it is true that "the less automatic the distro, the faster you learn to get the most out of GNU / Linux."

    And I think someone once said ... »Slackware is not complex, you just have to understand it» ...

    We are looking forward to a note describing the entrails of the beast.

  22.   downloads said

    They commented that if slackware had new packages, I currently use slackware 14.0, with KDE 4.9.3, libreoffice 3.6.3, vlc 2.0.4, adobe-reader 9.5.1, skype 4.1 (new version with support for messenger), as you see I use my desktop PC, without any special effects and it goes fine,

  23.   mr linux said
    1.    DMoZ said

      Thanks for the information, I am just giving the last touches to the one I did, and it is not for nothing, but it is a little more complete = D, I have added screenshots at each step to leave no room for doubt = D ...

      Anyway, I hope to publish it today, at the latest in the morning they already have it here ...

      Cheers !!! ...

      1.    Blaire pascal said

        Excellent, I'm already getting desperate for a day without new posts around here XD. I am a very avid reader of the blog.

        1.    DMoZ said

          Hahahaha, yes, the same thing happens to me ... Actually I have other more in process, but I gave priority to the guide and it has been the most laborious xD ... I will have dreams and nightmares with her xD ...

  24.   downloads said

    For those who are fluent in English, a good installation and system configuration guide.

    http://www.fprimex.com/linux/slackware/install.html

    http://www.fprimex.com/linux/slackware/config.html

    1.    DMoZ said

      Thank you, I will review you to see what we can bring here ...

  25.   eco-slacker said

    Good post

    I am a Slackware user for just a few years and I can say that it is the best distribution I have tried, and in part it is because its structure is well thought out and very attached to simplicity (KISS), so natively I do not think that going to have dependency resolution (not even in Slackware 50 to say the least), there are many discussions about it by the team that keeps Slac? kware alive and it is not part of the plans. Moreover, those people who maintain the distribution, it is from the time when dependency resolution was not known, so many Slackware users do not need it. However, there are the tools that you already mentioned for the resolution of dependencies, I have not tried them all, but they sure work very well.
    After a lot of Slackware I have tried Arch for some time, when work tightened and there was not much time to go about installing packages because it must be recognized that in Slackware this takes time, and in the end I ended up going back to Slackware because I just did not get used to it everything came ready without customization options. Although the time it takes today to install something tailored for your system, the coming days will be more productive because the good performance is remarkable.
    And for those who have doubts, Slackware is a modern distribution and from my point of view modernity has nothing to do with the whole system being graphical, as its installer in text mode for example, it simply does what it should do.
    In addition, Slackware is kept up to date in its current branch (which please is not to be taken as a rolling release), and the SBo packages are kept up to date in their most recent version, but above all STABLE. Although of course it is linux and you can install whatever you want at your own risk, for example I use KDE 4.9.3, recent but stable.
    We must not be afraid of Slackware, Gentoo, LFS or any other distro that there are myths about ... we are Linuxeros and we must see them as a challenge from which we will learn a lot.

    1.    DMoZ said

      Greetings my friend, it is nice to see you here.

      I totally agree with you, one of the absolute hallmarks of Slack is undoubtedly its philosophy regarding dependencies, it is a very controversial topic but once you understand it you are completely in agreement with it.

      And indeed, Slack can be a very current distribution when the appropriate measures are taken without losing stability.

      I will try to contribute a little in that last section that you mention, breaking down the myths that surround some of these distributions making them look almost untouchable.

      I hope you will soon honor us with your notes on Slack on these sides, they will surely be very useful.

      Cheers !!! ...

      1.    eco-slacker said

        It would be nice to do what you say about the distributions that have earned that title of "almost untouchable", I like the idea.

        And of course I would like to collaborate, just that I am busy with many things, but we are in contact. It is a question of one taking time to do things, right?

        regards

        1.    DMoZ said

          We'll see what happens with that idea =) ...

          Time, blessed time = D ...

          Cheers !!! ...

    2.    msx said

      «... I have tried Arch for some time, when work was tightening and there was not much time to go about installing packages because it must be recognized that in Slackware this takes time, and in the end I ended up going back to Slackware because I just did not get used to everything coming ready without customization options. »

      o_O
      Are you sure you installed Arch Linux? Wasn't it Ubuntu or another distro !?

      1.    eco-slacker said

        Sorry

        I think I did not write what I wanted to write, correction: I did not find the configuration / customization options in Arch in the same way as with Slackware. Why? Simple rookie mistake, wanting to find in the same place the same options that I was used to in Slackware on a different system, Arch. And I used pacman simply, without even paying attention to what it was installed, why it was installed and with what configuration, so it seemed to me that everything came ready.

        Ah, by the way I have not used Ubuntu for more than two hours in my life, lol, it is a system that I do not know and I think I would not get used to using it.

        regards

        1.    Blaire pascal said

          Oo interesting. This post has been here for several days and has been quite successful. With your comments it really makes me want to use these three distributions. I'm one of those who lacks available time, but it's worth it. The greatest contribution is knowledge.

          1.    DMoZ said

            That is the idea, my friend, to encourage users to lose their fear, it never hurts a little extra knowledge ...

            Cheers !!! ...

  26.   YAFU said

    My first distro was Slackware about 10 years ago. It is the first distro that I got someone to lend me the CD's. I had no idea about GNU / Linux. What was most difficult for me was to understand how I should partition the disk, which I did from a proprietary software in Windows. But the installation, if I remember correctly, was very simple. Although there was no graphical installer, the text mode installer was quite intuitive. I remember that you could choose the components to install and each one was accompanied by descriptions. That is, I was able to install it without the need for any manual or guide. Back then installing Slack was simpler than installing Arch today.
    PS: Try Slax 7, KDE 4 at 190MB 🙂
    PD2: Slax recommended only to be used as a pocket live distro, mainly because by default it is used as root

  27.   dmazed said

    I have tried quite a few distro (such was that the dd stuck to me and I had to move a few cables to get it back to itself) I could not install Slackware because I could never lift the X, then I tried Sabayon 10 in both kde and gnome and I liked it quite a lot but it caused me conflicts with java-based apps, currently I am a faithful lover of Arch (it took 6 weeks to install it) and I think it will be difficult to stop feeling love for it, Gentoo kills me but I see it as a pitbull with bad rage and I prefer to appreciate it behind the bars….

  28.   Master said

    I still use slackware I like your post

  29.   jnzer said

    Well, only what I am missing is how slaptget, "Slackbuilds" and "sbopkg" are used, hopefully soon it will be possible and what I do not understand is because if I have my file edited I keep writing in English, does anyone know why?

  30.   victorhenry said

    Excellent!!! The truth is Slackware is the only distro that I have used in the Linux world. The first time I tried to install it (I did it on a friend's Vaio) and I damaged the system I had installed ... hehehehe ... thank goodness as always, a user with a bit of common sense has an "independent" partition for data and well ... there was not so much problem -hahahahaha-. Then it took me almost a year to try to install it again, by then there was a new version… 12.0 🙂 I downloaded it and installed it on my sister's PC… jojojo… and there were no problems. Then I re-installed it several times on the same PC to be able to have a clearer installation steps. By configuring and installing some things, I ended up well tangled up ... then I would do the whole process again. I like this distro ... although I spend little time on it. Only until last night I installed version 14.0 and waooo… I love it !!! on the same PC as always I feel it run with more subtlety and elegance ... as if it were lighter. I can't wait to sit down to "talk to her" or to "discuss and fight with her" lol, because sometimes I'm stubborn and I don't know how to do certain things ... in the end we continue to "talk" as if nothing had happened! 🙂

    Well… It's something I wanted to share.

    Greetings from Colombia.

  31.   victorhenry said

    Ahhh !!! I would like you to publish the tutorials mentioned here.

    1.    kik1n said

      Hahahaha @VictorHenry
      In the same way I just installed it for a few minutes, I got sick of debian and I was impressed.
      Use the video drivers perfectly, lilo I detect 100 Win8, only I can't play my music that is on another hard drive, today I will dedicate all day to Slackware.

      Also, his repos reminded me of the Arch in the old days.

      1.    Percaff_TI99 said

        kik1n what is the error that throws you when trying to mount the other hard disk or is it another partition.

        1.    kik1n said

          Greetings.
          Thanks for answering, but I figured it out, apparently it was gstreamer.
          But I can not install pulseaudio, well it installs, but it does not run, continue alsa

          1.    Percaff_TI99 said

            you put these lines:
            # groupadd -g 216 press
            # useradd -u 216 -g pulse -d / var / lib / pulse pulse

        2.    kik1n said

          Yes, I actually liked sbopkg, in the end what do you have to do or the problem.
          In fact, after installing pulseaudio, I installed alsa-tools and the audio no longer served.

          1.    Percaff_TI99 said

            Okay. I'll try to install press on my Slackware to see what happens, I use it to test and learn it doesn't matter if I break everything. I use Debian Wheezy as a stable system. I've read that Slackware has a lot of issues with pulse, not even Funtoo / Gentoo gives me those issues.

            Regards!!!

        3.    kik1n said

          You also use Gentoo. Wow.
          I just installed Gentoo alongside Slackware for comparison and I didn't like gentoo. I see him very annoyed with the USEs and the order of the packages haha.

          I'd better stick with Slackware, although I also tried Debian and…. I am not used to handling apt or aptitude, they do not convince me.

          1.    Percaff_TI99 said

            kik1n I have installed pulseaudio, I have audio but how do you see which one runs. In htop there is the line / usr / bin / pulseaudio –start and no alsa.

        4.    kik1n said

          I will try again. Why do I remove the audio.

          1.    Percaff_TI99 said

            kik1n This is what I have installed and configured:
            Installation of pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Then I created ~ / .asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf file and copied the following content into them:

            pcm.press {
            type press
            }
            ctl.press {
            type press
            }
            pcm. default {
            type press
            }
            ctl.! default {
            type press
            }

            This is for me to use pulse audio by default if I remember correctly and finally I gave it execution permissions:
            chmod + x /etc/rc.d/rc.pulseaudio

  32.   victorhenry said

    Hi kik1n, yes or no that Slackware is a BEAUTIFUL FAIRY?
    For the other discs, I mount them once at the time of installation and I have no problems with it (although I think it would be better to mount them when you need them: P) ... still, you can always mount them from the system same.

    Greetings from Colombia!!!

    1.    kik1n said

      Totally agree.

      Since I finished the installation, I love it.
      I've been using slackware for almost a day now, and I highly recommend it.

  33.   Eu said

    Many people see this distribution as a monster, but after a few days playing with it, the monster tames itself, and ends up being your faithful, stable and complicated simple (K.eep It S.imple S.tupid) pet. In fact, I put aside my favorite ubuntu (at least until 13.10 is released)

    Thanks to the TXZ and TGZ packages there is no more complication to install than:
    1.- Right click on the package and question.
    2.- Click on «install txz package»
    3.- Wait a few seconds and… .. done !! You already have the pidgin working to talk to your friends, thunderbird for emails, google earth…. torrents… .. Wine for any .exe application… come on, what you would expect from any operating system. But with the reliability that "no_se_kuantos error" will not jump to you.

    If Slackware 14.0 can be defined in one serious word: Stable.

  34.   omeza said

    I have been using Slackware for more than 10 years (when it was installed from diskettes) and I think that the biggest difficulty when you are installing is to configure the partitions which is very easy if you read the Slackware book that is on the same site, the rest it becomes practically automatic ...

  35.   WSN said

    Well, I just installed slackware 14.1, I had tried some other renowned distros, I even thought that I already had the final one with fedora 22 ... I was wrong.

    Neither fedora nor eight quarters, the performance of my computer has improved remarkably with slackware and by saying remarkably, perhaps I should say brutally.

    Like everything, things need to be polished, like the keyboard configuration, accents, those things, I think this is the distro that I'm going to marry>)

    1.    DMoZ said

      Do not forget to stop by ...

      https://blog.desdelinux.net/author/dmoz/

      Cheers …

  36.   Ivan said

    Very good and stable distribution ... my monster fu Arch what gave me battle was the video card configuration, a lap p3 512 ram, hehehe I'm still using it.

  37.   Inukaze said

    Hello very good, I am currently on Slackware64 14.2. I came from 1 week ago in Gentoo xD (Which I deleted for a simple and simple reason I realized very late that I should have chosen the 64-Bit distro instead of the 32-Bit, and if I was lazy to spend 7 days Downloading, Configuring and Compiling everything so that in 7 days you will have: Base System + Graphics System + Nvidia Private Drivers without mtrr 304.134 + Wine + Steam

    Well, I have returned to Slackware for the third time, and to my surprise, Nouveau works in both 2D and 3D (Which I can't make it work in many other distros I've tried: Gentoo, ArchLinux / Manjaro / Chakra / Bunseslab, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CalculateLinux, etc)

    But anyway, for me the only thing Slackware needs is to work more and better based on "sbopkg". If you are a package manager that works with Slackbuilds.org. since I prefer applications to be compiled. preferable if you pass the optimizations "-O2 march = native mtype = native" and "make -j3" (That's one of the things that can be easily set in gentoo to do whenever you compile)

    As I was saying sbopkg would be great if
    1 - Resolve the dependencies, at the moment I am restoring the dependencies of "clamtk" that has several dependencies, which in turn have many perl dependencies, and those also have dependencies. So if I am lazy to solve them all manually when there are too many

    I have already been 1 week, before knowing sbopkg, and did all the downloads manually from the site

    2 - Once that is completed, you can use a GUI that has the simple Synaptic. because honestly it is the most optimal package manager that I have used, even more than octopi. but I would like it to have the performance and speed of «pacman» which is much faster than apt.

    And well, although Slackware64 14.2 is the best distro I have gotten, after spending 7 days on gentoo. and then 1 whole week manually solving Slackbuilds with dependencies. I basically want a Slackaware64 14.2 with a package manager like pacman

    Does anyone know of a distro with a number of packages equivalent to Debian Stable, based on Slackware, that uses Pacman by default?

    A possible distro quantity that I have is Frugalware, but I don't know how much it has in its repositories or what other slackware derivatives that are active, do you suggest?

  38.   Anonymous said

    This is precisely the same concept I had of Arch before installing it, we will have to see if the same thing happens to me with Slackware