Open Firefox which by default loads the home page (about: home) and just below the search engine a link appears where I am invited to Spread my Voice before the Governments of the world for an Open Web. WTF?
The objective of this campaign is none other than to stop something that is on the way and that we have already talked about on our blog: Control over the Internet. We just have to enter the campaign website and leave some data and our opinion ...
I don't know, the idea is very good, but coming from Google, It would be necessary to see to what extent offering this data does not affect the misnamed Privacy in the network. At the end of this page there is a link (How we use your information) that displays this message:
The name you enter may be published as part of this website and this discussion. Your specified country and other location information may be used to show the dynamic conversation going on around the world. Your email address can be used to send you updates on Internet policy initiatives.
Precisely Google, which has several countries censored (including mine) proposes an open Internet .. Paradoxical, no?
Never trust the good intention of an entity whose only motivation is to increase financial profit year after year.
Like any company.
I think that of the companies that are not directly related to GNU / Linux, it is the one that we have been able to take advantage of the most with open source. Google Summer of Code, Google code, Android, the ability to watch YouTube videos without the Adobe flash plugin. That is, perhaps Google in all this has double intentions, but Torvalds already said it: Linux (I add OpenSource) has been successful thanks to selfishness.
Let's watch and watch these companies carefully, but let's take advantage of the advantages.
For example Valve. Free 3D and proprietary drivers with the impulse of the arrival of Steam to GNU / Linux have advanced in a short time what they had not done in years.
Greetings.
true words. it's hard to tell where the enemy is coming from now on the net
Hello Fernando and also Kikilovem:
What would you think if you were told that content producers should pay for the traffic they generate on the network, would you agree? In the end, most of the traffic originates from "large corporations" that work to "increase economic profit", Right? ... Well, if that were to happen and the internet was "regulated" in this way, access to all the information that we have today within the reach of a click would be considerably limited and that is precisely one of the "regulations" »That they claim to establish and that Google opposes and is campaigning against.
So that you have concrete information about what this is about, I recommend you read an article published 2 days ago in Wired and that illustrates what it would mean and the damage it would bring to users, especially those from underdeveloped countries. Here is the link in case you dare:
http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/12/internet-users-shouldnt-have-to-pay-the-price-of-an-international-treaty/
At least I DID vote because my vote is not based on clichés about who promotes a campaign but how much fair there is in it and if it coincides with my principles; I always keep in mind a phrase by Albert Camus that illustrates this situation very well: «One does not decide what a thought really has, considering whether it is from the right or from the left»
The fact that the protocols are free does not imply that whoever uses them, in this case Google, offers its free service ...
As controversial as it may be in some countries ... Well, I already voted. It was fast 😛
I don't trust Google either, but I support the cause.
And since we are here, I would like to ask you, if it is not too much trouble, what is the most used search engine on the island? Which one do you use?
Greetings from Argentina!
Hi Ramiro, obviously from the way elav made his approach, it can be interpreted that Google does not allow access to its services from Cuba, which is not correct, here the most used search engine is Google, as well as the vast majority of its other services (Gmail, Google+, etc.), what happens is that SOME services IF are not available to users who access from the island (the only one I remember at this time is Google Code); Now, what is blocked is access to many Google services within the country, but NOT by Google if not by (or the) ISP of the island.
I'm particularly using DuckDuckGo these days, but as Charlie-Brown says, it's not that all services are censored, but some that are important to me, like Google Code. For example, I cannot enter this url: http://www.clementine-player.org/
I can't agree more with you Elav.
Regarding some comments that I read, I do not think that it is possible to separate who says something ("google") from what he says ("let's join the free web").
Google does not want to defend a "free" website. In reality, like ANY company, what it is doing is defending its business (because those who "create" the content or even the Internet providers want to charge Google) and to do so it tries to "disguise" its cause as a global cause in pursuit. of freedom of expression.
Of course, the current situation is better than the one we would experience if this were to take place. We could not possibly access a large amount of information.
In that sense, those who vote, do so knowing what they are voting for. Today's web is NOT "free", but it is much freer than it could be if what Google is trying to prevent and Google is trying to avoid to protect its business takes place.
Please stop saying that Google advocates a "free web." It's a lie. Elav made it clear by mentioning the case of Cuba. Raúl is right: "let's watch and watch these companies carefully, but let's take advantage of the benefits."
Cheers! Paul.
«... Precisely Google, which has several countries (including mine) censored, proposes an open Internet ... Paradoxical, no? ...»
Paradoxical, unfair and also technologically stupid, since in the end it is possible to access but jumping a thousand barriers.
+1000 @elav
I already voted .. 😀
I do not trust google, and I am not a supporter of Open Source itself, but a defender of free software
However I am willing to join the cause, which is in itself a great advance
But let it be clear to the guys at google .. that if we can face the governments of the world, we can face a company without problems
But it is clear that free access to the network and the lack of regulation of it constitute a clear threat to the political classes of our countries, which they see as the privacy they enjoyed, as well as the traditional media that they controlled. , no longer have the desired effect
"Never trust the good intention of an entity whose only motivation is to increase financial profit year after year."
I totally agree with this quote and I add: Never trust the most disinterested interest. I think that what is sought in this case is to monopolize the market and once managed to charge for certain services. No?
Find the answer to the first paragraph of your comment in the comment where you took the sentence, as for the rest; Isn't it precisely thanks to Google that today we have free mailboxes of more than 1GB in Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.? Do you know that the first search engines did everything possible to establish payment options for their searches? I am not a staunch defender of any brand or company, but neither do I reject proposals only because of who makes them, be it a company, a government or an NGO; I am used to evaluating the content of what was raised before giving an opinion and so far, if we evaluate Google for its actions and not based on our "convictions", the result has been beneficial for users.
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies." Friedrich Nietze.
Yes, I am aware that the first search engines intended to charge for searches and for a mail service and that thanks to Google this did not come to fruition. Of course I'm not ignorant, friend Charlie-Brown. But that does not mean that in a more or less near or distant future things cannot change.
In the world of business or finance, things have a price and those who pay that price are always the same. In a ruthless and cruel world submerged under the parameters of money, things do not happen by chance, but they have a study and some scales and a tactic and a strategy to follow. It is what politicians call the change of reality. But that reality affects all of us lovers and users of free software.
I hope I have qualified my point of view in a short post.
I am very clear that nothing is eternal and that everything can change in the future, what happens is that this future you are talking about is precisely the one that they now intend to change through "regulations" that harm us all and if today a company, in this Google case, is opposed, well welcome.
I am one of those who believe that the greater degree of freedom there is in any sphere of life, the better the results will be, if there is any doubt, the case of the network should suffice, with its self-regulated chaos, arising precisely from the participation of people, companies and institutions, each with its own objectives that do not always coincide, but that in the end gave rise to what we have today. Let us remember that when the idea of a "free" internet is defended, which in English is "free", the meaning of that word in that language is also "free", so in the English-speaking world despite what some think), defending that the internet is "free" implies both freedom and gratuity, in fact, today and "thanks to Google" the model that is being imposed on the internet is precisely that of free services, not counting the effect it has had on other areas, such as education, with ongoing projects to make courses available to everyone, free of charge, that until yesterday were extremely expensive for most people. .
It is my opinion that when we talk about the era of the knowledge or information society, in which many think we are already in, it is because there have been changes in people's lifestyles and also in the business schemes of In society, ignoring this and pretending to continue analyzing these phenomena with the same parameters of thought of the XNUMXth or XNUMXth century, is a mistake that leads us to draw the wrong conclusions.
This is the month of "Campaigns". Regarding campaigns, have you heard about the one that Microsoft has mounted against the Google search engine?
http://www.muycanal.com/2012/11/30/scroogled-agresiva-campana-de-microsoft-contra-google
We are living in violent times ... XD
The initiative is good. Lately, torrent servers and other companies have been penalized more and more, curtailing internet freedom. The soup, act and other similar laws also go in that direction. Unfortunately, it is difficult to digest that the Internet Monopoly Giant speaks of Freedom, when his actions go in the completely opposite direction ... when they buy potential competitors, his monopoly actions and appropriation of personal data clearly threaten any freedom. I'm sure if they had a representative at that meeting, they wouldn't complain. They resent being left out. Those of us who remain outside are always the same.
Greetings, Latino4.
Open web? it must be a joke on the part of Google xD
If I really want an «open web», I better go to the «Deep Web» 😛
Cheers(: