Hmm, sweet taste of new, sweet taste of defeat perhaps, is that what I have now in my mouth after reading and rereading in various places that Microsoft intends to pass Skype or Whatsapp to the web. It's no secret to anyone that the Redmond folks have shell out a paltry $ 8500 billion for the ultra popular VOIP client Skype or Whatsapp, and it is much less surprising that, from that point on, all users of Skype or Whatsapp en Linux we are "go to hell”, To put it colloquially.
If memory serves me well, Skype or Whatsapp It has been in beta for at least two years, 2.2 beta to be exact. Two bad-born years without news for the system, two years of torture with video calls, with ugly interfaces and in total oblivion, we had already been in that phase for some time and after being bought by Microsoft it was like being dropped by a bucket of ice water with ice crystals that cut, that was the feeling I felt at that moment and not to mention the face of pokerface that I put when the rumor was confirmed and became news.
Well, leaving aside personal appreciations of the news, let's review a little the disastrous operation of Skype or Whatsapp en Linux and its obvious stagnation, of course, will not be the case for many, but a good number ...
USB webcams are not recognized de facto in Skype or Whatsapp, for which we are fried those who do not have a laptop and we have to make a desktop script with a command line that links to Skype or Whatsapp manually with the camera component; all so that it recognizes it and, to add insult to injury, it malfunctions. Funny, right?
The sound in many cases is annoying, it works well with Alsa but not right off the bat, you should give the program a couple of shakes so that “furule" definitely. Anyway, don't worry, there will be recurring situations in which you have to readjust things a bit, so you will have fun for a while.
An interface, and I want to apologize ... Crap! Simply vomitive if we compare it with the interfaces of you x o Windows, for example ... finding everything is a toothache and that style of separate windows for everything, wow, archaic falls short, I would call it (and yes Courage, what I will say is not reflected in the RAE) "Dinosaurs".
That nothing else is what it is today Skype or Whatsapp for Linux, a program that really does not serve or that serves a little and for a few and if you have doubts, you can ask conandoel in the IRC DesdeLinux How many times have I had to fight with that program.
In hindsight we have that, a great program but poorly implemented in our system, which we saw no hope of improvement until then the source code of a more or less recent version was leaked and a group of hackers began to reverse engineer to create a client Skype or Whatsapp for Linux decent, updated and obviously compatible with the original, which surely to Microsoft He is not amused, but I do not know if actions have been taken in this regard and the thing is not moving too much with that project, at least I do not see movement in the network regarding that (and yes, I always look a little bit about it). But let's face it, at the rate it goes, we won't have anything for at least a year or two more ...
So looking back at the whole thing and the way of Skype on Linux, we can either not make use of the program, use it and stick with hair loss, worry and cry because we love Skype (find a rope and hang around your neck) or ... have patience and hope to Microsoft so that he can get his version HTML5 de Skype or Whatsapp.
The latter gives me a bittersweet sensation in my mouth; makes me feel good to know that HTML5 He will be the one who stars in this development, I am sure that this will greatly improve the multi-platform experience and will greatly boost the standard, I really like it and it would make me fall in love with the little program; although not everything is rosy. I do not want to fall into being a hater or a Taliban but we must be honest, the Redmond are going to bet for their own good and it is possible that they will be clever and make Skype or Whatsapp be better low Internet ExplorerWhat if with exclusive features, integration of I don't know what and god knows what ... or maybe I'm wrong and play fair, allowing the same possibilities in all browsers compatible with the standard (compatible enough) and develop the apps for the main ones, but come on, dreaming costs nothing.
Of course, another against that this new concept presents is to strengthen the dependency of the browser, more and more they want to put in our heads that the future is on the web; And while I support that as a web developer, there are things that are better on the desktop because some things are well worth keeping out of the browser ...
Time will give or take away the reason but hey, You guys are saying?
I totally agree with everything related to Skype and Microsoft that they leave us aside and with that in the msn we do not have for videoconferencing, we only have to resort to Skype which has a lot that does not have an update for Linux and we continue With the same version for a while, without improvements and everything is going wrong.
It's something I had to say, let's hope they really do a decent job and play fair.
Forgive the redundancy. 😀
They are better on the desktop simply because web applications will never be better than native ones; at least not making use of the technologies that exist now or the way they are being used.
AT THE END FREE OF SUCH MARTYRDOM THROUGH WHICH I HAVE PASSED; asdasdasdasd ... I already started working on what I committed myself to, tomorrow I'll upload "beta" scans of what I have at the moment; w;
Now, what matters is the post here… I really don't know what to think or feel. At least the beta skype of the repos has not failed me as epically as many, I communicate in luxury with my girlfriend without problems with the lap and with the desktop, which has a cheap little camera more generic than the medicines of my country xD ... Let's see what happens with this u3u hopefully go on the road for the benefit of all
Well, I have to use it to communicate with relatives, but it is a martyrdom to leave it stable and many times it thunders or connects properly: S
3.2.4 (…) You grant Skype a non-exclusive, international, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free license… (of your content!)
Now it would only be necessary for them to program it in silverlight and other fears LOOOOOL!
The most normal thing is that it is compatible with windows and osx, so I doubt that IE has exclusive characteristics, what we should see is what language it intends to use in addition to html5….
HTML5 is an ecosystem of languages and protocols beyond the markup language itself ... Javascript, CSS3 are two languages within the standard. Surely they use Java with some engine for the web and make Skype work under those concepts, although I find it heavy and inefficient having Python and Ruby or PHP by default.
How little do you know about the web, pandev xD
I do not know anything because I am not interested, it is not my target shit man, for me the web is not the future XD, I am of pure and hard desktops.
Do any of you use other free alternatives to Skype?
Any substitute worthwhile?
I have tried the ones I put here:
http://masquepeces.com/windousico/2012/03/videoconferencias-desde-linux/
They go well but they are very simple.
Not free, but the google talk plugin works for me a thousand and one times better than Skype.
Here you have an interesting list, Some free alternatives to Skype There are substitutes, but not that are compatible with skype.
> What do you think?
Same as the FSF (Free Software Foundation):
Skype is a proprietary Voice-over-IP program that uses a proprietary protocol. Skype is seducing free software users into using proprietary software, often two users at a time. Using proprietary phone software means that we can't be sure who is listening in, because we can't see the code.
The Chinese government, for example, was found to have been spying on Skype conversations already, and they are probably not the only ones. We do not want to encourage the creation of a Skype compatible client, but instead, we want to encourage you to create, contribute to, or promote the use of free software replacements for Skype, such as Ekiga, Twinkle or QuteCom, and to encourage adoption and use of free VoIP, video, and chat protocols such as SIP and XMPP / Jingle.
Let's see carrot, normal that a program owned by Hasecorp has a shitty interface or works like the jebe in Linux.
Luckily, as a suspicious mute asocial that I am, I don't need the little program, because if I don't I already see the borrowed computer coming out the window.
+1 a question Courage, Are you the same Courage here
Yes, but that blog screwed up well hahaha
Hahaha I admired you a lot before, I see that you have controlled your temperament a lot XD you seem more childish now
Haha it seems to me the opposite
Maybe my pc is from another world or I don't know, but the programs that are supposed to be fatal in Linux always work for me, firefox works very well and without slowing down my computer and Skype works for me the first time (with usb camera and in fedora, mint, ubuntu and windows).
PS: could you help me change the useragent in firefox 11? There is only info for version 5
Here's how to do it: https://blog.desdelinux.net/tips-como-cambiar-el-user-agent-de-firefox/, you just have to put the version you are using in the browser and the OS.
My question is ... there is an alternative to skype, .. since I have the problem with the little camera that sticks and sticks ...
Let's hope that Skype for Linux really improves, and above all that it innovates, the support is not as good as it should be… But the worst thing is that Skype is Skype and there are alternatives that are still better than Skype. Too bad of a product that once was innovative.
Does anyone know if there is a possibility that the Skype / Messenger that makes mocosoft programs like Jitsi work? I say this because as they are going to replace msn by Skype.
… Mmmm, I just wanted to know why the hell my HTML5 tags / 317-456-2564 ) automatically become likns to Skype !!!
It's a crappy monopoly practice