When I thought I couldn't hit the bottom, after selling my beloved Nvidia, I decided to sell my beloved Intel i5, because on Linux I couldn't fluently play any of the new games (compared to Windows).
So I steeled myself, as many Phoronix users had recommended AMD solutions to me. Poor me who thought that something had changed since June 2012… but no, nothing, absolutely nothing has changed, everything remains the same.
I start by testing Ubuntu 13.04 with my apu a8 5600k (radeon 7560d), I see that the free drivers are too slow, that the flash I cannot put it to full screen because it slows down the pc, and then I try to upgrade the kernel to 3.11 (which has the dynamic power management). Use xorg edgers to have the last git of the amd drivers and the last table, restart, activate the power management, but everything remains the same, the launcher slow as the emule in 1999 (if it had already been invented ...), and better let's not talk about stationery.
Trying to find peace, I replace the free driver with the exclusive one, poor me, he told me! Worse can not go! Surely the bugs that I notified last year have been fixed, I put the proprietary driver and I notice that I have tearing in the reproduction of videos and in flash, I go to the AMDCC, activate the tearfree, I put a movie, and it shows like jerks ... , everything remains the same…
So, I take my laptop and start looking for another distro, after 2 hours thinking about which distro to use, not finding any that satisfied me, of those that are Out of the Box, I decide to download Archlinux, I start the installation, I put KDE, waiting for what kwin it was smoother, and I use the VioLO repository to get the latest Catalysts.
I try, I deactivate the Kwin vsync and activate the AMDCC one (the Kwin one did not work at all). Finally I try to see a flash ..., slow ... very slow, even consuming little cpu, it was noticeable as it did not go over 20 fps fluid (if I'm not mistaken, the movies are shot at 23/24 fps), so you could notice certain jerks every 4/5 seconds.
I tell myself! Well, this is flash .., let's try something more normal, I take VLC, I play a 1080p anime called Break Blade, I test, and I see how in xv Nothing is going smoothly, nothing has changed, it is equal to jerks in the fast scenes, like in June 2012, when I was still using the radeon 4650, so I decide to test the output gl, I test with Mplayer and VLC, all fluid, I move the courses towards the minute bar to check, and the same bug that I reported in January 2012, is still there .., when I move the cursor to the minute bar and the volume , OpenGL goes crazy and creates artifacts all over the screen….
My patience ran out and now I'm writing from Windows, hoping that my godparents in October will give me money to buy me a NVidia...
Please don't buy AMD!
It's that I read you and it's always the same. If you know that the cards you buy don't work well for you on GNU / Linux, why do you uninstall Windows? At work I use a PC that Windows came from the factory and I have not removed it. I installed Debian and I have dual boot. Why? Well, because when I want to play, I enter Windows and that's it. The topic is over.
I haven't had Windows installed for about 2 years, I play purely on Linux, native games (which are very good and more are coming out) ... I still don't see why I would have to use Windows to do something that I can already do on Linux.
Well, if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you.
Do not burn me, I know that Pandev is going to hate me for this comment, but in honor of the confidence we have in each other and my instinct to break his balls:
It's because it's black ... XD
Seriously, it's fuck ¬¬
LOL !!!
😀
Racist mode ON! 😀
To play games that do not exist natives in Gnu usa
Haters raining in 3… 2… 1… AMD is not bad, not if you use it outside of Linux.
"That releases its drivers, its specifications, is good, goodaaaa", he peels it, they do not work well, that's why I left them years ago at the graphics level and I keep my Nvidia GT430, it is not a monster but I can play, I can watch videos, I can do whatever I want without going through hardships on Linux
You're right @nano, ATI is good outside of Linux, because if you use Linux and you have an ATI it doesn't really bode well for you, a shame because its graphics cards in many cases surpass NVIDIA (and the opposite also happens).
I'll keep my NVIDIA and soon I'll have Intel HD Graphics on a Core i3 😀
Layer 8 🙂
You really think it's layer 8. I doubt it, a lot actually.
They are the same trolls that made me fall into phoronix and of course as the apu was at 80 euros, the offer from amazon ahahhaa was irresistible xD.
Amd releases its specs ohh yeah 8D
Your problems are quite strange, I am a dream of a notebook with an apu E450 in which I run Debian testing Xfce with the proprietary drivers and I do not present any of the problems you point out, except for the slow display in flash at 720p, but that is flour of another sack. It occurs to me that it may be a KDE "compatibility" thing.
@JackassBQ that's your case, but the "problem" of slow flash display in 720p with the proprietary ATI drivers you have, has no reason why, and the answer is very simple, with NVIDIA using nouveau or proprietary drivers That does not happen and that is the giant problem that ATI / AMD has with its drivers and their poor quality, which in the end makes them a very, very bad choice when using them with GNU / Linux.
I assure you that it is not as you say, I have done tests with intel and nvidia with hardware similar to mine and the problems with flash are the same. Everyone knows that flash on GNU / Linux sucks, that's the problem.
Well, in my case I can see flash in 720p and 1080p with nouveau without problems from YouTube, so it seems to me that you generalize. In the case of Intel, the HD Graphics are fine and I have no problems with them, and I hope I don't have them on my new pc.
My nouveau gets very hot on the card… so I have to use the proprietary ones
Friend, every Computer is different from the other, even if it is 2 identical hardware in specifications 😉 from experience I tell you, I have spent years fixing and looking at computers, I have drawn my conclusions and that layer 8 is very used and out of fashion, there are amd models in graphics that are cool in linux like others that you do not start or stick xD, currently the only company that I have seen that puts their free graphics drivers are those of intel, although there will be no lack of the types that like to start The flame war, let's say things as they are, both amd and nvidia are unable to release their source code to implement it in linux, the ranges are few and the funniest thing that as time passes amd passes them to legacy, and none of the 2 are capable of doing something decent in their proprietary, the other thing is to reverse engineer the drivers and hadware and get an unofficial, but decent driver: /
Cheers! 🙂 (Use while Intel even though you don't like it very much, it is the only viable option until you deign to do your job well and not half ...)
chucha xD was for the comment @jackass xd
Totally agree. Many believe that proprietary drivers, precisely for that reason, are better, when in fact all they do is slow down the computer. I never had problems with the old Ubuntu, and when they started to appear (version 12) I changed to LMDE and the matter resolved.
I assure you that I tried with an nvidia gt630 and an intel hd4000, and 0 problems with flash, with the intel the only problem is that in second place, it had tearing or not, but with both it was very fluid.
So maybe it is a layer 8 error of mine not being able to use an intel or nvidia graphics in a good way, and layer 8 of you not being able to use an AMD as it should 😀
Well what you think son xDDDD.
If it makes you happy: ok
I think you are scratching a lot with layer 8, in that case I can only tell you to think what you want.
Well, when they learn to configure their hardware well, we will talk 😉
Okay, we'll let you know, a greeting and good luck.
You already gave me the reason to solve your problems, how good you could get it. Regards.
With an i3 of the first generation and the Intel HD I also have problems with flash, especially when it comes to full screen.
PS: It is not necessary to be sarcastic, each one has had their own experiences with their hardware and who knows if the problem is one or the hardware itself.
HTML5 and the drama is over
Thanks for the advice. The envies that are filthy with their free driver work very well and take good care of their proprietary driver.
It depends on NVIDIA, I have an old lady (8400 GS) and she is fine, with a low temperature at about 48ºC and 60ºC at full power, I play something or other, and soon the PuerVideo HD engine will be able to be used using nouveau, although of course that It will not be compared with the proprietary driver, things fly there.
I have an AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 7660D and it works very well… look well and check what is missing .. for example: do you have dual chanel activated? how much ram does it have? etc
yes what you want is for linux to be exact to windows then the problem is in your mind and not in gnulinux
Wanting something in which we have invested a good amount of money to work well or, at least, moderately well is not a mental problem, it is pure common sense.
ram 1333 mhz ddr3, everything activated, I use 512 mb of memory for the apu, it is not a question of configuration, it is the same old story, the amd drivers are bad in 2d ..., yesterday I was discussing exactly that in phoronix. Now with the 13.8 driver that came out yesterday at least the games are not so bad, the valve ones, but with the 13.7 that I had yesterday, horrible….: /. And I know it is not a strange case, because the issue of the opengl output with vlc and mplayer had already been reported when using the radeon 4650 and it is still there. To make matters worse this weekend I will make a video demonstrating the problem.
For elav, as I was not going to buy amd, if I needed money and the intel i3 are not only slow as a cpu, but also have almost all intel hd2500 / 3000 graphics that are not worth playing on windows.
for APUs RAM memories are needed more frequently, it makes the pc run better, something from 1866 or 2000+
perhaps the problem is being an integrated graphics for the APU, you could also use some FX with a discrete graphics HD 7000 series of mid-low range
It is the same ram that I used for the intel hd4000, of course if you put a faster one you will notice some difference, but for that the catalyst driver should not have those mega bugs.
Well, Intel has a maximum of 1600mhz for the RAM (in the processor), in AMD it is up to 1866mhz it seems to me, and I have seen with OC more than 2000, but that is especially for the APUs since they run better having more frequency in the RAM that's why it said it xd.
Interesting article. I don't play games, at least not the sophisticated ones with high hardware requirements. For everything I use Linux and in my Debian testing 64 XFCE4 with the very modest Intel G31 / 33 on board, I have enough.
I'm going to change the firefox add-on to the user agent ..
In archlinux, the proprietary ATI drivers are the worst in the world, and even more so if you use the violo ones, it is best to download one and configure it by hand (in case you want to use proprietary ones)
I use an ATI HD3000, the free drivers are the best for these legacy apus, but you have to configure it to get the most out of it, I recommend you read the archlinux radeon wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Radeon#Performance_tuning
And also remember that Archlinux does not come with anything by default, not even all the graphic acceleration libraries:
lib32-fontconfig lib32-libxcursor lib32-libxrandr lib32-libxdamage lib32-libxi lib32-gettext lib32-glu lib32-libsm libxi gettext glu libsm desktop-file-utils lib32-giflib libpng lib32-libpng gnutls lib32-gnutls libxinerama libxcomposite libxine32 -libxcomposite libxmu lib32-libxmu libxxf32vm lib86-libxxf32vm libxml86 lib2-libxml32 libldap lib2-libldap lcms lib32-lcms mpg32l ib123-mpg32 openal lib123-openal v32l-utils lib4-v32l-utils alsa-lib4 libcomposite lib32-v32l-utils alsa lib32 table libXNUMX-table
And in the same way install all the libraries listed here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam/Game-specific_troubleshooting#Dependencies
For the legacy cards! The free drivers are the best since they are polished, but from the 5xxx series onwards, they are not completely polished yet mhhh ...
I have checked it many times in my meats ... AMD is good in terms of price, but in performance (and much more in Linux) it does not compensate, by much. As I said in my previous post, it is no longer the issue of performance in games (which is being improved), but problems with the desktop in general.
I recovered my Nvidia 9800GT a few days ago, and the difference in performance is very noticeable, at least with the proprietary drivers. This card can be had for a very good price second hand, considering the performance it gives. I posted a link from Phoronix the other day with some excellent Linux / windows benchmarks for Nvidias from 98'00GTX upwards.
For the record, the Catalyst for Linux has improved a lot. A couple of years ago, using my laptop's HD4330 in OpenSuse / Kde and Ubuntu was a god ... with Debian it was a little better.
They have improved a lot with respect to the 11.xx series but with respect to the 12.6 which was the last one that supported the radeon 4650 .., well no ... they did not care when I reported the bugs! I believe that the minimum that a company like amd should do is make the drivers work well with kwin or compiz, and that xv does not go like that half slow compared to nvidia or intel.
I think the problem was obvious to users a few years ago, but now that moderately powerful games have arrived, what we all knew begins to come to light: that the ATI drivers for Linux are a 'shit'. I think that in a couple of years this will improve ... with both ATI and Nvidia. But for the moment, those of us who have "old" graphics are clear about it. 😀
Just yesterday I had such an experience with my HD5670, which of course works fine on Windows. After changing the hard drive I preferred to install everything from scratch, and yesterday it was Linux Mint 15 Cinnamon.
- Just installed it gives me the free drivers, with some problem to correctly detect the resolution but I solve it quickly.
- I install 'fglrx' and after restarting Cinnamon peta and it goes into legacy mode or whatever it's called.
- I install 'fglrx-updates', which is more recent, and more of the same (this phrase sounds familiar to me).
I've left the drivers free, which didn't seem to be going bad until I installed several games. I only tried the lincity-ng and without almost navigating through its menus I get to the desktop.
Tomorrow I will continue testing.
Curiously, on this laptop with an HD7470 it goes well with 'fglrx-updates' (although I think I remember something with the full screen videos), but here I use Mate, which does not require the flourishes of Cinnamon and other desktops with a more modern base.
have you tried ocean the apu a8 5600k?
don't give up ...
With the asrock board, I activated the Xboost, so I find xD is oceada ..., now I'm going to try with the ubuntu 13.10 iso and then with a distro that uses some environment without effects, like crunchbang, until red hat XD
Watch out! AMD themselves warn that they only support Ubuntu 12.04 ... although I still skate and refer to the Catalyst Legacy, which is the one I have for the HD4330.
Right now I am testing with kubuntu 13.10 and it seems to be perfect, both flash does not have tearing and is fluid as mplayer can use opengl correctly and without problems, as in 2d everything is correct .., now my concern is the temperature .., lm- sensors don't tell me how many degrees I have.
Until you made it. That is the importance of exhausting all means before ranting because yes. Greetings, I congratulate you 😉
I have achieved it half, since every 1 or 2 hours, like that the gpu locks and the screen turns off for 5 seconds and then it turns on again.
There are distros that behave like poop (I'm not saying it is, well, actually, only debian and opensuse and mint behave the way I want: P)
Please update your article / tantrum
My computer is worse than yours
AMD X3 450 + ATI HD 4250 at 720p on an ASUS nearly 24 ″ 1080p
And with Manjaro and free drivers everything works - except Blender that I don't use since ATI uses OPENcl - open - and not CUDA - closed -
I don't need more and in its day the quality / price ratio was the best
An APU is not to do wonders, it is to have the least saving
It bothers me the abandonment of the controllers that make all the brands
In GPUs the ATI - NVIDIA price quality is balanced and the controllers and CUDA have an advantage over the Nvidia models of price and performance similar to those of ATI, but in an APU the comparison must be made with Intel in price and performance and in price for the CPU wins ATI, and in price and performance for the GPU as well.
Put the Intel alternative with Intel graphics for the same price to compare, not some hypothetical combination Intel + cheap integrated nvidia that does not exist.
My laptop with the free drivers and the radeon 4650, it reaches 90 degrees, so I do not plan to update anything. In any case I will show what ridiculous state the drivers for my card are in. But that maybe tomorrow.
Compa I wish him all the luck possible, I'm thinking he has witchcraft / curse on him haha -Just kidding.
I've been with an amd apu A8-3850 for some time now, and like you the price completely caught my eye. I have tried many distros and changed, but not because of stability, but because of my mania, but those instability problems do not happen to me, but the performance is not the same as in Windows around games, those that run with wine are very bad . Apart from that, my Chakra is more than stable with the free drivers; I only emphasize that the flash in Firefox is a terrible thing that in Chromium it is not the same, it is luxurious.
I currently have dualboot, and windows for games. But I am aware that amd's private drivers are a long way from being at the level of nvidia's.
Regards!
Your apu is older than mine, it uses a hd65xxd which is actually equivalent to a 5xxx series so it has better support :). My 2d issues are over with kubuntu 13.10… let me do a few more tests.
IN CHAKRA EVERYTHING IS PERFECT
That's why you use windows (maximum trolling).
Intel Rulez!
It's that simple (for me) I'm not a gamer, if I play I do it with the ones that come by default in the system (if it comes with it), there is nothing like spending time playing Sudoku or Mahjong (the latter I met / learned Thanks to which came in Ubuntu) while updating the system or downloading something.
And if I play I do it in play 2, there is nothing like a good PES challenge with a friend, accompanied by a few packs of beer, although I almost always lose.
The PS2 doesn't have the best game in the world: Serious Sam xDDD
In Linux that game is hyper mega poorly optimized, it's a shame: /
I have been using ati for 10 years now I have an atu 5670hd with debian and proprietary drivers and I have no problem with flash or videos, to play there if I use windows, except when I play FTL which I love. in short, everyone talks about how they are doing at the fair.
as i said before AMD RADEON hardware is better than Nvidia but NVIDIA has better software than AMD. I am a fan of AMD but until something good comes out of drives in Linux I will continue using Nvidia that if it works well in GNU / LINUX
I know I am not the only happy user with AMD. I don't render, I don't play, but I use gnome shell, (it bores me), I watch flash videos, movies (no more than 720p) all with the free driver.
I just have to say: Long live AMD
I have no problems with the proprietary one, the catalyst repo patches are going very well, the only thing I miss is being able to correctly choose the acceleration, the apu and the dedicated one, something that steals a little battery, but it is not much, in win 8 can't either 🙁
Moral? Do not use AMD products for the graphic section if you want to enjoy GNU / Linux, period
Of course not, you are wrong. I have an AMD processor and video, I used chakra and everything is perfect ... In Ubuntu it is horrible.
There is no reason why I have my PC with a 100% Intel chipset.
The problem with intel is that you can't play almost anything fluently ... let's see if they give an improvement to the table because it's a shame that even the dota was going to less than 20 fps ...
Off Topic: That avatar reminds me of the rogue teacher from the animated series Daria.
Damn, I never thought compatibility (or incompatibility!) with AMD was such an odyssey
@ pandev92 Where was the fanboyism?
Brother obviously you are using an apu the apus combine graphics with cpu the apu is not bad but, damn we all know that AMD Linux drivers are shit, both free and proprietary.
My hardware AMD Phenom II X4 965BE 3.4GHZ
Asus motherboard M5A97 chipset
4gb kingston 1333mhz
Cooler stock brand cooler master with 2 copper pipes
Obviously I almost dare to assure that your pc is equivalent to a first generation Intel core i3 with a frequency no higher than 2GHz
Look at this Bechmark http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-A8-5600K
How can you see my cpu is eaten at 5600k, do not pretend to have a great achievement with that apu, I agree with you amd does not work graphically in Linux at least in Ubuntu and NO derivatives.
It turns out that I had pear os 7, I installed the proprietary driver recommended by Canonical in the software sources and the only thing I got is to break the packages, I had to reinstall.
Previously I used Chakra with drivers that they install with the installation with drivers, everything was perfect without problems and maybe amd did not shoot many fps but I do not care much fps.
I'm not a fanboy of AMD I only use it because I like their fair play, you know Nvidia was AMD but CEO Jen-Hsun Huang would sell nvidia if he continued in amd as CEO of his brand, of intel or speak in windows it is rubbish.
I accept, admit and give faith that in CPU Intel is the king of kings although AMD has 8 native cores and 4.0ghz stock while they use 32nm intel will win.
Another fact: Dell, HP, Toshiba and other manufacturers receive discounts in exchange for buying little or nothing with AMD, so the company filed a lawsuit against Integred electronics.
I think your head is hot, but I'm wrong it's Stallman. Every time I am convinced that RMS Lives in 1990 and not in 2013, everything seems wrong,
"Don't buy ATI, it's the enemy of your freedom." Enemy of my balls, maybe he doesn't like anything because of him, there is freedom, but because of him it is also that in Linux there are so many fans, to say that they don't buy AMD, would be like saying that Ubuntu is shit, just because, I don't like Canonical's stupid idea of making yourself known by going through the interests of the community and becoming semi-proprietary.
I am not treating you badly but if you want to recriminate me or bitch, do it, you are within your right to express your thoughts, I invite you to investigate before writing things that are not so true.
In part, he is right, as with PRISM, they have repented and agreed with RMS. As for the drivers, I think it is more for the autonomy to solve problems and not to have that feeling of being the victim of a usurer.
That RMS is right, he is, but in many times, he is usually paradoxical in his words.
I use Debian so I can't get used to Ubuntu's faulty package system (from Ubuntu, I said, not from its derivatives like Kubuntu or Xubuntu, which are excellent), and I use Flash Player to watch my videos, Skype to be able to do video chats and Opera to synchronize my smartphone favorites.
In fact Ubuntu fucks me up and shits me, it's very fragile, it fucks up easier than windows 98 and it fucks up just for that. I say and maintain that the DEBs that are worth it are Debian and mint ...
I think using proprietary things like steam or codecs is not betraying freedom as I do not know if I can use flash in trisquel I have not changed but for me the best thing is Chakra, manjaro and Opensuse,
As far as the derivatives of ubuntu I say NOT VALUE Nothing
Kubuntu and mint are the same with the difference that Mint is more focused on multimedia users with extras such as vlc gimp and minitube and mint's own tools such as mint backup, mint install mint, sourses etc.
So so many derivatives of ubuntu have different backgrounds, different screensavers and programs via apt that many distros use the same programs….
If ubuntu had not been detached from its flavors, it would be more convenient to offer a DVD that includes Unity, gnome Xfce, LXDE and kde but with the entry of mir it came to screw up the ties between its flavors.
The same with mint offer a dvd with KDE, CINNAMON, mate and Xfce
and mint debian with cinnamon and mate, exactly as Opensuse does, this would facilitate work for programmers and new users, thus avoiding confusion and thinking that ubuntu unity and ubuntu gnone are the same, they even bring the same software with the difference of graphical environment.
Well another alternative to function Gnome with XCFE so that if you want to use XFCE you can change it with a click or merge its menus and tools, in the case of LXDE and Razor QT it is a fusion of the structured code from scratch.
This would facilitate that there was less fragmentation or join for example
PEAR OS + ELEMENTARY OS AND DIPEEN LINUX that all three are focused on imitating mac os and all 3 have their own software independent of gnome but pear os and dipeen use gnome as a base. Now from Elementary I don't know if it also uses gnome as a foundation.
Regarding RMS, it does not like anything and its ideas of being extremely free prevent it from offering better alternatives that may well be totally free but with quality.
As far as I know Gnome is funded by redhat and has its gnome foundation, in itself it seems to me that gnome is considered part of GNU, but to really compete with Modern ui or Aqua for mac they need to remove obsolete software and improve the functions of the program as well as graphic quality. KDE seems beautiful to me, even it is graphically eaten in the ui and mac mode and gnome is miles behind graphically and in functions to KDE.
You are very wrong, the i3 eats up cpu power to the amd, a little nothing else, but in graphics, it is very far, I challenge you to play battlefield 3 at 1080p with that i3 without another dedicated graphics, instead with the apu if you can do it. (just watch gameplays on youtube).
By the way, I would like to point out that the apu costs 50 euros less than your phenom ... and it loses very little ..., I don't see this incredible gain! since with phenom you must buy a dedicated graphic, you pay more, and in the end you must also buy the graphic, and at least you buy one for 70 euros…, you will have the same fps as with an apu.
Well you don't necessarily need a dedicated graphics if you can run a game with a 4250 or higher integrated chipset with 1024mb or more.
Perhaps as I say it is not a graphical error but one that both Amd and Nvidia are crap. The only good thing in linux is intel.
Regarding what you mention, an apu is better than any intel hd, perhaps the one that is measured is intel HD 5000
Use free linux drivers, the proprietary ones from both nvidia and amd are crap except for Opensuse and Chakra….
Interestingly, on Ubuntu, the ATI / AMD drivers work decently, but I haven't tested it in games.
The 13.15 and 13.20 seems not, from what I have been reading, especially in the apus they cause many lags in the games and memory leaks! xD
Better to use the free ones, with the left 4 dead 2 in all medium and some high values, I think I have a stable 30 fps (1600 x900).
Well I'm doing excellent with AMD, kubuntu 12.10 with the proprietary driver, I watch movies, I play on steam (Counter-strike source, and the half life 2 deathmatch) and everything is fine.
My cpu: AMD Phenom II x6 1055t
GPU: Radeon HD 7770
4gb RAM
It seems that only those of the 7xxx XD series are going to bin, in kubuntu proprietary driver if I use openg as vlc output it gives me several problems, and it is reported by more than one user in phoronix.
Finally I do well in kubuntu 13.10 with the free driver and the last table ..., I succeeded with flash and the videos worse I could not activate the uvd ..., I should know how to compile table and create a special deb with vdpau activated.
I have no problems, I use amd and it works great, surely it must be those apu or they come in a single cpu that must take time, if we get like this there are several things that do not work.
I can play half life 2 without any problem, trine, bastion or other games. Personally, the flash is good for me, whether it is 720 or 1080p.
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955
radeon hd 7770 gpu
8GB of ram.
Well I use manjaro.
Amd fx 6300
PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
16 GB Ram
And I play dota 2, team fortress, cs 1.6 steam and it suits me, I have free drivers and I have no problem with them, I still have not seen a fault in my flash player and I watch movies in blue.ray without jumps.
regards
you do not have dual chanel activated. to activate it you need 2 ram modules of at least 1866 and you activate it in the bios. and the difference is that it increases performance by more than 50%
one of the strengths of these apu amd is that the dual chanel. with a single module it is not activated
activating the Xboost is not enough, you have to really ocean it ...
It would be cool a tutorial on how to ocean an amd apu ... anyone know?
Pandev stay in windows, because strangely nothing at all works for you, neither in linux nor in OSx. (don't take it the wrong way eh, that's a joke)
:OKAY
Pandev is most likely incompatible with UNIX and its derivatives.
I am only incompatible with the garca eliotime3000 drivers, I am very very demanding: =) and unfortunately the only one that meets my requirements is nvidia.
well I must say that at least for me, I do well with the proprietary drivers, I use a:
ASUS BOARD (P8B75-M)
Intel (R) Core (TM) i5-3330 CPU @ 3.00GHz (4 cores)
VIDEO CARD 1GB PCIE XFX RADEON HD 5640
8GB RAM 1333
And it's great for me, I really like playing with dolphin and pcsx2 and in almost all games, both on wii, gamecube run almost 100%, only those on play2 have a hard time, otherwise unity runs great, although it doesn't I use a lot since I prefer the classic style and although it is true it does not work as in windows at the moment it meets my needs, as a last detail I use ubuntu 13.04 and it is not that I am a fan of ubuntu but ubuntu has never failed me like linux mint, but everyone is everyone, Greetings
And the steam games? left 4 dead2, serious sam bfe3? dota 2? etc etc
Well, the truth is that I have not given myself the task of installing them via steam because I have a download limit and many of the games that you comment weigh more than 5 gigs, it would take a long time just to download tf2 for example, then until I get a better signal I pass , Cheers
Make a self-help group, ATI, if they are not AMD / ATI, so that they buy AMD / ATI I do not know if they are masochists or what.
Very simple because when you go to play on windows and compare your ati with an nvidia of the same price .., nvidia always loses
What a strange thing, I run LMDE with cinnamon and a C-50 APU and I do not report problems in the flash as mentioned above. I don't understand how it can happen to people. u_u
Since I bought a mini lap with an amd e-300 dual core at 1.1ghz I was very disappointed in amd. The laptop was very nice, the keyboard, the screen, the colors, etc ... however, the processor was slow and it got very hot even in windows ... in Ubuntu it fumed (not literally obviously). Now I am with a first generation intel core i3 (380m) and ubuntu 13.04 is doing quite well with Unity.
Scream me if you feel like it ...
The Catalyst from Xorg-Edgers did work for me on an HP Envy M6 (APU A10-4600M), although I tell you that if it was their good grain on the tail to make it funky, especially that the Catalysts that Kubuntu brought "by default" 12.10 THEY DIDN'T WORK WITH THE PUÑETERO XORG 1.13 !!! After a night of giving birth, I was even able to play via Wine… (I have yet to try L4D2 and Kerbal Space Program in native). Still, I don't use Linux so much in this lap, because of the remix that I put together (Ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 with KDE and Unity ... they don't get along and I'm lazy to reformat the whole hunk 😛)
Now that I plan to make Winbugs 8 jump to my «Velikaya Slava» (as my lap is called), let's see how it goes ... Knowing that Kubuntu 12.04.3 is almost released (and AMD supporting 12.04.2 and 13.04 , with which I'm sure I'm going to stay for a while), it will be interesting to compare the performance between that and Fedora 19 with the Catalyst 13.8 ... Hopefully they compose and I don't get "the screen violated (et) a to death.
On the other hand: Free Drivers + APU = put the testicles in a steamer. I hope they can improve those aspects soon, because I love AMD a lot for its price / benefit ratio.
The problem you have is Ubuntu, not the micro, the drivers, or the graphics card. I have an old machine, with an AMD Sempron 3400+, 2 GB of RAM, and a 21 ′ LCD monitor on which I can watch movies, television, any video, even in full screen.
The graphics card is a cave-age Nvidia Geoforce (256K), and I don't use it with the proprietary drivers but with the free ones that come with the system (Nouveau).
The system is Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE), which comes with kernel 3.2.0.4.
With that goes perfectly. I don't know games, because I don't use; but with the video, no problem. Hope this can help you. Regards.
The problem is ... that they are not talking about the processor ... it is about the APUs. I have an Athlon 64 and a Phenom X4 that have run linux like silk ... the problem is if you have an AMD video card. I have managed to run games like CoD-MWX (with X between 1 and 2), Doom 3, the best of the Need for Speed saga and now I installed Kerbal and L4D2 natively without fights (from drivers) in «Velikaya Slava» (my HP Envy M6 APU AMD A10-4600M). But in order to get out of that "Velikaya Slava" (Great glory in Russian), I had to give birth to Chinese with open umbrellas !!!
I have had similar problems and the best I have achieved has been with RPM systems, Deb jerks when playing video and RPMs too, but the problem is less but I have been able to live with that, the other option is the dual boot with the system. The windows, I have leaned towards PCLinux and in robust computers with PCLinux FullMonty of course there are several more there you have Fedora, Opensuse, etc. The problem is not only AMD, the problem appeared for the first time with old Intel computers with integrated video about 4 years ago and tested about 10 systems from ubuntu…. even crunchbang and puppy, I have never tried BSD systems, if anyone has had an experience with BSD + AMD please comment ... greetings to all ...
Stop using linux .... you want to complicate your life.
Aside from what you say, which I don't deny is true, you urgently need to go back to elementary school to learn the Spanish you never learned when you should have, eh, boy? What a lot of words and kicks at the dictionary in so few lines! Boy, think that hundreds or thousands of people are going to read you, how do you think of showing yourself that illiterate, man?
Thanks, with your comments I clean my ass. 😛 and secondly, I grew up speaking Italian, therefore, I am honored as I write Spanish. Ala, to sleep child.
Your problem is that you do not use debian (ubuntu, kubuntu, mint, etc .. they are all debian based not debian). All the applications, functionalities, plug-ins and applications that you have mentioned I use with a Phenom II 955 X4 BE + ASUS ATI HD 5670 1 G DDR5 and everything works like silk. Try debian 7.6 with the backports and you might be pleasantly surprised.
Do not believe that Ati works so well in Windows, I have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ with 2GB of ram, and an ati X300 pci express and in windows 7, clan tv is going to jerk me, and the system is sometimes quite slow , in GNU / Linux I do not tell you anything, the AMD are pure garbage, with the intel core 2 duo of my macbook these things did not happen
regards