Xubuntu or LMDE Xfce? Which to choose…

Distributions that use by default Xfce there are a few, and even some of them very good, but this time I want to propose a comparison (from my personal experience) between two of the most popular: Xubuntu vs LMDE Xfce.

Xubuntu

LMDE Xfce

Appearance:

On the visual side, I think both distributions are pretty even. Xubuntu gives us an interface more to Mac OS: an upper panel with the list of windows and a lower panel acting as a Dock. While LMDE something else to Windows o KDE: the panel at the bottom with the Menu, the list of windows and the other traditional elements.

I think both cases the choice of theme Gtk and icon is adequate, but can be further enhanced or customized.

Performance:

In this regard, as they must suppose, LMDE Xfce exceeds Xubuntu although the difference is not enormous either. Maybe it's because it's based on Debian, or that it includes fewer demons at the beginning, I don't know. In my case LMDE I was a little more fluid, consuming in a LiveCD unos 129 Mb in a PC with 1Gb of RAM while Xubuntu touched the 140Mb. But I repeat, nothing stands out from one over the other.

Applications:

In this regard both have something that I have always criticized harshly: Excess of applications of Gnome. A simple example is the System Monitor. So Xubuntu as LMDE Xfce They bring the default Gnome and I wonder why? Yes Xfce It has its own System Monitor and it is very nice and useful.

Both distributions come with Firefox by default, when the browser «official»Or«recomendado" for Xfce es Midori and so on, other applications appear that do not have to be there, if the final objective is to make a lighter variant of the distribution.

Each one incorporates Extra Software own distribution (Mint Tools, Ubuntu One ... etc), although LMDE Xfce brings more utilities by default (and actions) guidance on Thunar. We must also note that the current builds of both distributions are different. The .iso of Xubuntu can burn in a while LMDE Xfce  needs a DVD, as it includes a wider range of applications such as Audio and Video Codecs, FlashPlayer, something that personally seems very appropriate since with the default installation, everything works the first time.

So which one to choose?

It seems to me that the choice has to be based on the taste and needs of the user. One of the points that can influence is the release cycle of each distribution since with LMDE Xfce we will have something else Rolling Release being based on the repositories of Debian Testing, while with Xubuntu we will have to wait 6 months to enjoy their news.

If I had to choose I would choose LMDE Xfce, not only because it is based on Debian, but because once installed you don't have to adjust almost anything, although well, always you have to do something. Anyway, it is advisable to see other distributions that use by default Xfce and choose the one that best suits us.


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  1.   Courage said

    Haha it is obvious that LMDE Xfce, although I have not tested it

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Try it .. Even if it's on LiveCD and tell me 😛

      1.    Courage said

        Man I have tried Debian Lenny Stable with Gnome, I don't think there is much difference either except some tools to make things easier for new ones

        1.    elav <° Linux said

          You are just like KZKG ^ Gaara. There is a lot of difference between Debian Lenny and Debian Wheezy, a lot ..

      2.    Thirteen said

        Both LMDE using xfce, and Lubuntu, are based on Debian, so I would have to use them to know which one I would choose if I had to choose one.

  2.   Oscar said

    I think you missed putting Debian + XFCE, from which I am writing, I still haven't changed the User Agent, Hahahahaha.

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Well, the idea was to put "easy" distributions for ton ... I mean, users hahaha

      1.    Courage said

        People get a lot wrong with Debian, they paint it as difficult and it's the last thing it is

        1.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux said

          It would also be necessary to see if your concept of "difficult" is the same as that of "people" 🙂

          1.    Courage said

            When I tried Debian I didn't know that Gentoo, Arch and Slackware existed

        2.    elav <° Linux said

          Exact. I think it is one of the few things that I agree with ..

        3.    Diablo said

          It is not difficult but like arhc it is very incompatible, at least on my machine, and for inexperienced users like me, the simple fact of configuring the video card becomes an odyssey, like the wify configuration that although if it detects it, it tries to connect without success.

          They are the only ones who have resisted me.
          I've tried them all I think.

          For me the fastest stable and configurable is Ubuntu 11.4 natty and although it is in the 12.4 LTS version I do not update it because I lose the aforementioned, but that is not why it is the best of all, it is simply my case.

      2.    Andres Silva said

        It is not good to say such comments, there are only users with different computer skills and objectives, which may be given by profession or hobby, but it does not mean what you are implying.

        1.    elav <° Linux said

          Man, my intention is not to offend. Just as you say, there are users who need everything to work the first time, that they do not have to configure anything and that it be easy for them. Xubuntu and LMDE Xfce are dedicated to that type of user .. That's what I meant.

          1.    Andres Silva said

            I'm sure you didn't mean to offend, I just wanted to point out that you have to be careful with what you say, especially with that kind of comment, since we don't want to scare people away from free software, but to attract them. Do not worry.

  3.   Andres Silva said

    LMDE with XFCE worked perfectly for me, the issue of codecs and performance were superior to Xubuntu for the programs I use (Geographic Information Systems) ... I also love Rolling Realese ... the disadvantage that I find to LMDE, although it is more from my part, it is that the issue of the repositories I do not get them right, since it does not work correctly (so far, I think that in the next Update Pack it is fixed) the apt-add-repository command ... also the repositories are almost all Customized for Ubuntu, which although they are compatible in many cases with Debian, it is common that some dependencies that you have to be looking for are missing, making it difficult for me in some cases to install more updated versions than those tested in Debian Testing ... but it definitely is it's probably a bug of mine trying to use LMDE the same way as Xubuntu

    This is the great disadvantage that I have with LMDE, but nevertheless, I like it more and more.

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      How are the LMDE repositories almost all custom for Ubuntu? I did not understand that well 😕

      1.    Andres Silva said

        Sorry, I am something new in the world of linux, so it is possible that I make mistakes, but I try to learn ... what I meant is that for my particular case the programs are compiled for ubuntu considering specific dependencies that may not be in the repository that provides the program of interest. Then I find incompatibilities. For example, in the case of ubuntugis-unstable / ppa ... however I come to understand that this repository is based on debian-gis, so I have to use those packages, which solved part of my problem ... therefore, to We end users, we may have these problems when we change distribution, at least that has happened to me ... I explained?

        1.    elav <° Linux said

          Well, what I can understand is that that happens when you try to use Ubuntu packages, the ones in the PPAs and so on, right? Anyway, it is possible that, as you say, there are incompatibility of dependencies in some packages, because LMDE uses the Debian Testing repositories, which is missing some packages that Ubuntu includes or that are in Sid and Experimental.

          1.    Andres Silva said

            Exactly, that ... which hurts me for the programs that I need to use, but it is a very particular case, I would say ... however, it is not that serious, and just as I learned Ubuntu, I can learn LMDE without problems, in which they have helped me blogging a lot like yours, so thanks!

  4.   Andres Silva said

    Another existential question ... which is the basis for deciding whether to definitively switch to XFCE ... Do you think the development of this desktop environment will be enhanced from now on?

    1.    Courage said

      Something decisive are the resources of the computer.

      Regarding development, it may be because there are many people who do not like Gnome 3

    2.    elav <° Linux said

      I think if. There is a huge wave of unhappy Gnome users who have switched to Xfce and I suppose this is a good thing. Xfce developers are taking themselves more seriously some desktop details so it is possible that we will see relevant changes soon.

    3.    Andres Silva said

      Hopefully, it would be interesting for more developers to dedicate themselves to XFCE and if it will be used more, it would be more functional that way ... but in several aspects (many) I like it more than gnome.

      1.    elav <° Linux said

        When you can share with us those things that you like so much .. 😀

        1.    Andres Silva said

          Sure, for now, the first thing that comes to mind is the xfce panel. I find it very practical, I love launchers, I like that in a launcher you can add more than one application that you can access by pressing the little arrow on the side, which is configurable and you can choose to show you the last application launched among others options. It is the most practical, because the other docks one ended up having a giant dock with all the applications that were used, now they can be "grouped" and well organized, and the best thing is that you can add your own commands to execute, reorganize , and you don't have to install anything else, everything is included by default as a panel feature. Very configurable, so it is very practical and simple, fully functional.

  5.   Carlos-Xfce said

    I really like my LMDE with Xfce, but I can't understand the repositories, Firefox cannot update and at the end of updating in the console they show me a lot of errors. Anyway…

    1.    Andres Silva said

      ... well the same thing happens to me too, I'm learning ... it would be useful for those who understand logic more to post about this ...

      About firefox, I found this post very useful for what you are looking for: http://ubuntu-cosillas.blogspot.com/2011/11/instalar-la-ultima-version-de-firefox.html

      1.    Carlos said

        Thanks for the info. I'm writing from my "netbook" because on my "notebook" I'm installing Linux Mint 12. I really liked the "live" version and, well, they removed that default search engine that I hated so much. By trying to remove that browser from Linux Mint, I ended up deconfiguring Firefox. I will wait for LMDE 12 to come out to see if I go back to Xfce. At the moment, I'm with Linux Mint 12 because, in addition to the search engine change, I need Wine, which is not available in LMDE 11. Anyway, let's see how it works. Thanks and regards.

  6.   Eduar2 said

    Is Arch Linux + xfce worth it?

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Ok, but not for the type of user to whom the two distributions I mention are dedicated.

  7.   Yoyo said

    I have LMDE XFCE, the best in XFCE, without a doubt 😉

    1.    Courage said

      The best for one type of audience, not for all

  8.   arturo molina said

    Apart from Ubuntu I also like slackware, in fact it was my first distro, I say because I saw that they mention it.
    It would be interesting to also try Lubuntu vs LMDE with LXDE
    Lubuntu also brings some default codecs and chromium as a web browser.
    Greetings.

  9.   Alba said

    Hello! I have a couple of days reading the content of this blog, which I have loved ~ Congratulations on the content!

    On the subject ... I have been using Linux distros for 4 years, and a year and a half using Mint ... Sometime in my beginnings I wanted to use Debian, but being the novice that I am ... PFFFFT, it is incredible to me that I installed it back then from an alternate disk and it I left xD running but I found the environment very ugly and I removed it LOL ... now seeing that Mint has its version based on Debian and with my favorite desktop (XFCE) it didn't take long to install it on my desktop PC (which I built myself: B )

    I have to say that I have always liked XFCE, only that the version that I knew at that time, 3 years ago, left a lot to want in terms of translations and adjustments and others. Now I see that the project has matured a lot, and with XFCE I feel at home ~ I only have a headache with my LMDE and that is that I cannot repair rotor packages, neither with console nor with Sypnaptic, and I need to install Openshot but it tells me that 2 dependencies are not installable, and I look for the dependencies and try to install them and they tell me that it cannot be done because other packages that those depend on cannot and so I go until I find broken packages, which no matter how much I want to, won't let me the OS repair; ^; (I don't remember what packages or dependencies or anything, I'm on my laptop where I have Xubuntu)

    From what I understand, we are rare women in the Linux world xD but I am one of those few: B I am a hobby artist and of course, my work programs are all free (MyPaint, GIMP, Inkscape and Agave) and I usually do speed paint videos to show how I work (I record them with recordmydesktop, I merge them with mencoder commands, I accelerate them in Openshot and I put effects and others in KDEnlive) ... that's why my sadness of not being able to install openshot in my Xubuntu LMDE; ^; I like XFCE for being simple and fast with all that I occupy (apart from compiz effects and emerald themes, although I have not been able to make the cube work lol)

    Without further ado, I'm just saying that, that I got "into the major leagues" with LMDE although I don't even know how to hit yet xD

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Welcome Alba:
      First of all let me congratulate you, you have been the dream woman of any GNU / Linux user hahaha.

      I think the first thing I would ask you to try to help you, would be to tell me which repositories you are using. Now about your dependency error try a couple of things:
      1- Access Synaptic »Preferences» Distribution and see if you have the largest marked. I give you an example, when I used LMDE I had 3 repositories activated: Debian Testing, Debian Multimedia and Debian Mint. Sometimes, when I had an error of this type, I would select the option Prefer version, to Testing (Debian Testing) and voila.

      2- Try to update with the LMDE Update Manager to see if that package conflicts or something.

      Right now I can't think of anything else. It would be good if you could give me the data of the repositories .. Thank you very much for your comment.

      regards

      1.    Alba said

        Hello again! hehehe, thank you so much for the welcome and for the compliment (?) xD I'm the geekiest in my classes just for using Linux: B

        Now, my little problem ... I already solved it! 😀 what I did was edit my source list with what you put here https://blog.desdelinux.net/cosas-que-hago-despues-instalar-lmde-xfce/ I put both the latest and the testing and voila, I was able to update as it should and install my video editors 🙂 I had the list that comes by default and it was what generated conflicts, I removed it and that's it. Thank you very much especially! I think they have won one more frequent reader! ~ I'll give my rounds here: 3

    2.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux said

      Hello and welcome to our site 🙂
      What happens to you with Xfce, happens to me with KDE… I feel at home with it, it's a unique and great feeling 😀

      Regarding the broken dependencies, put the output of the terminal in our Easter and you give us the link, we read it and we will try to solve it together 😉

      Video tutorials ... great, if you want to share some it would be perfect, in fact ... if you want we can (with your permission of course) post some here on the site 😀

      Nothing welcome and we read 🙂
      regards

      1.    Alba said

        Hello! thanks for the welcome! > w

        I already repaired the dependencies, changed the source list with the one from the post here https://blog.desdelinux.net/cosas-que-hago-despues-instalar-lmde-xfce/ xD those who come to have the clean distro bothered me with the gstreamer and the melt, that's why it wouldn't let me do anything.

        More than video tutorials, they are speed paints, quick videos of how a drawing from the sketch to the final work remains without explaining anything or anything, although I would like to do a tutorial for MyPaint (which would be more of an explanation of the tools I use in the same here
        and the final work: 3 (I'm not here that super pro or much less, I'm just a fan xD)

        I'll be here! ~ I really liked the blog 😀

        1.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux said

          Ah okay, yes haha ​​I already read it in your other comment haha.
          Well, if you do a tutorial or want us to publish something, tell us, we will gladly take a look 😉

          And HAHA don't worry, no one here is a "pro" ... in fact, I don't even know what one would have to know or be to belong to the "pro" ... I imagine programming and contributing directly to the kernel or something like that LOL !!!

          Welcome and really, thank you very much for your comments, it is good to know that what we write like 😀

      2.    Courage said

        Don't forget that you're on the other side hahahahaha

  10.   Jamin samuel said

    Hello everyone .. first of all I congratulate the creator of the post .. excellent work my brother, ok I continue .. my beginnings in linus are great, I encouraged me and I started to travel this world and puffff I love it 😀 I started with distros like: canaima , ubuntu 11.04, ubuntu 11.10, LM 11, LM 12, and now that I just installed LMDE with XFCE since the Gnome one could not install it (very strange) in short, the truth is that I LIKE this edition of Linux mint based on debian testing 😀 and I also like this XFCE interface.

    Ok now I go to the technical, the system is recently installed and the repositories that it brings by default are these:

    deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
    deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
    deb http://security.debian.org/ testing / updates main contrib non-free
    deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

    Tell me if these are the correct ones so that the system works well or if I have to change them and by which?
    Thank you !! 🙂

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Welcome Jamin Samuel:
      We are actually two blog creators 😀 but thank you very much. About what you ask, well yes, those are the repositories that you should use, yes, you will not be very up to date to say ...

      regards

  11.   Jamin samuel said

    Thank you !! . . . I did not understand the phrase "you will not be very up to date that we say": S

  12.   Jamin samuel said

    Try updating and it tells me "an error has occurred" and shows me these details:

    E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad_0.10.22-3_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstxvid.so ', which is also in the gstreamer0.10 package. 0.10.22-plugins-really-bad 0.1-XNUMX

  13.   Jamin samuel said

    Could you guide me why is this happening to me?

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      See if you solve with this post..
      regards

  14.   Jamin samuel said

    Well I read the information that Alba mentioned .. I will prove what she did to change the repos for the following:

    deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
    deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
    deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing / updates main contrib non-free
    deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-fre

    Let's see what happens

  15.   jamin-samuel said

    Thank you !! the truth is that what I did was that I did not select it to be updated, let everything else be updated and after I finished, select that package that was broken and it was updated without problem.

    Now I want you to tell me which repositories should I really use?

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      If you want to stay up-to-date, use the Debian Testing repositories. If you want nothing to break, wait for the LMDE update Pack3 to be released.

  16.   Jamin samuel said

    How will I know when Pack3 is released? I imagine that it will appear in the update manager to update it, right?

    1.    elav <° Linux said

      Exact. In addition, that is announced through the blog, the forum and others.

  17.   rufizz said

    When you are used to xubuntu and you switch to mint xfce, you have to configure some things (awn, software center, etc.) to feel at home, then the experience is good with compiz and without getting stuck; I even installed it on a painful netbook with windows xp full of errors, viruses and alerts ... now it only has the elegant white bar and it goes faster, my friend who is delighted with linux!

  18.   chorea said

    I am using it at the moment it is lubunto 11.4 on desktop lxde works wonderfully fast efficient economical nice I am fascinated by the xubuntu-o-lmde-xfce-which-to-choose environment it already provides it is good but the xfce with adds a a little more resources but it is impelling these 2 on desktop lathes are the best they have done so far with linux

  19.   Patrick PPl said

    I do not like Unity THE COMPUTER SLOW SLOW COMPARISON OF WINDOWS 7 (I HATE THAT) IS MADE AN AIRPLANE that bad, that bad, install UBUNTU 12.04 and then I HAVE REMOVED IT after trying other distributions of everything, I have stayed with XUBUNTU 11.10 Xfce 4, so if it's something else, this is what I like, nothing fails, all the panels can be configured, AND THE PHENOMENAL VIDEO AND A APPLAUSE TO MINITUBE.

    1.    jamin-samuel said

      something similar happened to me too .. I installed 12.04 and I didn't like unity at all ..

      I wanted to try the famous "gnome-panel" and honestly I didn't like it either, then I put gnome shell 3.4 and I didn't see it better than the previous version 3.2 .. I would say it feels almost the same ..

      and the most serious problem was that again I could not have audio output from the front of my pc .. only from the back .. I will end up concluding that the problem is kernel .. exactly version 3.2

      When I tried fedora the kernel iva for version 3.2 and it happened to me exactly the same, then in debian tetsing the same again and the kernel in version 3.2, could it be that some drivers disappeared in that version?

      well .. I would have to try the kernel version 3.3 to see if the same thing happens or not.

  20.   Alrep said

    It helped me a lot, thank you very much.

  21.   Carlos Ferra said

    although I have a machine with 2G of ram and an intel of 2,60 I still use light desktops. the LMDE is the best of the best of everything I have tried.