Richard Stallman: "WikiLeaks hanya ce ta adawa ga jihohin da ke kyamar 'yancinmu"

Richard Stallman, wani shugaban ƙasa da ƙasa game da gwagwarmayar software kyauta, kuma wanda ya kafa Gidauniyar Free Software, yi la'akari da Julian Assange a matsayin jarumi. Amma jayayya da amfani da sabbin bayanan sirrin diflomasiyya saboda - a cewar Stallman - ba sa bayyana wani laifi kuma suna iya kawo cikas ga sadarwa ta hanyar sadarwa.

Ta hanyar ANDRES HAX - ahax@clarin.com

Richard Stallman shine asalin sui. Wani nau'in anti-Bill Gates, a ma'anar cewa yana da babban tasiri akan ci gaban kayan masarufi a duk duniya amma burinsa ba wadatar kansa bane, ko ƙirƙirar samfurin jari hujja, amma don 'yantar da software don yin kyakkyawar duniya zuwa ta hanyar Gidauniyar Free Software. Ee, utopian ne. Haife shi a 1953, ɗan damfara na Amurka yana da hanyar kasancewa cikin sauri da buɗewa (saurari sautin cikakken hirar da ke tare da wannan bayanin kula). Ya nanata sosai tsakanin bambanci tsakanin "software kyauta" (motsin da yake tallafawa) da kuma "tushen tushe," wanda a gare shi wani abu ne gaba ɗaya. Ñ ​​Digital ya ɗauke shi a matsayin tushen tushe don bin muhawara game da taron na WikiLeaks, tunda yana ɗaya daga cikin masu gwagwarmayar Amurkawa waɗanda ke kafa tushen gwagwarmayar sa don yanci da Yanar gizo.

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Me kuke tunani game da rawar da WikiLeaks ke takawa? 

Abinda nake tunani game da WikiLeaks shine kariya ne daga karyar kisan gilla na jihohi.

Daga duk jihohi, ko daga Amurka?

Na jihohin. Domin ba kasar Amurka kadai take yin karya ba. Jihohi da yawa suna karya. Kuma jihohi da yawa suna kashewa. Amma Amurka ita ce mafi arziki da ƙarfi har yanzu. Kuma a kwanan nan ta ƙaddamar da yaƙe-yaƙe da suka kashe mutane miliyan a Iraki.

Shin kuna ganin wannan na iya canza wani abu a cikin haƙiƙanin siyasar Amurka? 

Ban sani ba. Saboda siyasar Amurka kamar na gida ne. Kuma duk da cewa Bush ya yarda cewa ya ba da umarnin a azabtar da shi, amma mutane ba sa matsawa don bincikarsa da tuhumar shi kamar yadda ya kamata. Mun riga mun sani, saboda ya yarda da shi, cewa yana da laifin azabtarwa. Don haka idan Amurka ba ta caje ta ba, dole ne a yi ta a kotun duniya.

Me kuka yi tunanin abubuwan da ke cikin leaks ɗin? 

Har zuwa yau ban ga wani abu mai ban sha'awa ba a cikin sabon labarin na WikiLeaks [ed. Lura. An yi tattaunawar ne a ranar Talatar da ta gabata, 30 ga Nuwamba]. Don haka ban gamsu da cewa ya kamata a buga waɗannan bayanan ba. Ba na jin shawara ce mai kyau (ta WikiLeaks). Ban ga dalilin sanya su ba.

Game da takardu game da yaƙe-yaƙe, akwai abin kunya da gwamnati ta ɓoye wa jama'a saboda abin kunyar da nake tsammani, ko kuma saboda sha'awar su don gujewa hukunta su saboda laifukan su. Dangane da igiyoyin diflomasiyya kuwa, ba haka lamarin yake ba. Wataƙila saboda ban ga duk takaddun ba ... Zai yuwu cewa wani abu mai mahimmanci bai zo ba tukuna.

Ba na tsammanin yana da kyau a ƙirƙirar rikice-rikice tsakanin jihohi ko fallasa duk wata hanyar sadarwa don kawai a fallasa ta. Amma idan akwai wani abin kunya ko laifi da jihar ta ɓoye, a wannan yanayin yana da mahimmanci a fallasa shi.

In ba haka ba kawai tsegumi ne? 

Ee, daidai. Ban ga amfanin amfani da abin da diflomasiyyar Amurkawa ke tunani game da wasu shugabannin wasu kasashen ba.

A bayyane ya ke cewa jami'an diflomasiyyar suna aikinsu. Sun ba da ra'ayoyinsu da kimantawa a asirce… Amma daidai ne cewa sun sanar da ma'aikatar abubuwan da suke da mahimmanci a garesu.

Abu daya da banida tabbas a kansa shi ne batun kasashe kamar Saudi Arabiya da suka nemi a kaiwa Iran hari. Ban ga wani abin kunya ba. Amurka ba ta kaiwa Iran hari ba. Akwai hare-hare guda biyu da suka faru: na kwayar cutar Stuxnet, wanda wani ke kashe masana kimiyya da yawa, amma ba mu san ko yana da wata alaƙa da wannan sadarwa ba. Ko ta yaya, da alama, abin da Saudis ɗin suka nema ba wannan ba ne, amma harin soja ne. Kuma babu. Don haka alaƙar da ke tsakanin ainihin abubuwan da suka faru da wannan buƙatar ba bayyananniya ba ne a gare ni. Ba na tsammanin waɗannan sabbin sakonnin sun taimaka mana.

Ina tsammanin WikiLeaks zai kasance kusa da abin kunya, wanda akwai su da yawa. Ina tsammanin buga sakonnin sirri tsakanin jami'an diflomasiyya, lokacin da babu wani muhimmin abu a bayansu, yana haifar da hatsarin dakile duk wata hanyar sadarwa. Kuma wannan ba kyawawa bane.

Shin zai iya zama laifin son zuciyar mai kafa shafin WikiLeaks ne? 

Ba na son neman bayani game da halayyar mutum ... A lokacin da ban yi tsammanin wani ya zaba da kyau ba, wannan ba ya nuna cewa suna da wani laifi na kashin kai. Ban yarda da shawararku kwata-kwata ba, amma kowa yana yanke shawarar da zaku kushe. Na dauki Julian Assange a matsayin jarumi, amma a wannan yanayin ina tsammanin ya rasa alamar.

To, na gode sosai da lokacinku ... 

Ina ganin WikiLeaks yana taka rawa wajen tsayayya da zalunci, wajen kare 'yancinmu ga jihohin da ke kin' yancinmu. Amma idan zai isa a kiyaye yanci, ban sani ba. Kalubale ne mai matukar wahala.

Source: Mujallar Ñ - Clarín