Hoy Nayi musu tsokaci akan fitowar mai saka RC na farko Debian kuma kawai na tsinci kaina hanyar haɗi akan Wiki na wannan aikin inda zamu ga "menene sabo" wanda sigar ta 7 zata ƙunsa.
Input Ext4 zai zama tsarin fayil na tsoho, kodayake tabbas zaku iya ci gaba da amfani da sifofin da suka gabata. Wani abu mai ban sha'awa shine ana iya amfani dashi tsarin tsarin azaman zaɓi tare da mujallar, wanda ke amfani da sababbin fasali a cikin Kernel.
LibreOffice maye gurbin OpenOffice, kamar yadda Muhallin Desktop muke da shi Gnome 3.4, INA 4.8 y Xfce 4.8 wanda zai zo ta tsoho a Debian KFreeBSD y debian hurda.
ffmpeg an maye gurbin ta da labari, tunda ana ɗaukarsu suna da tsarin saki mai ra'ayin mazan jiya kuma saboda haka ya fi dacewa da bukatun Debian. debian huce Ya zo tare da duk ayyukan libav (tsohon ffmpeg) dakunan karatu da musaya, gami da mplayer, mencoder, vlc da transcoding.
An bayar da ƙarin goyan bayan codec, misali, ta hanyar gurgu don sanyawa MP3 mai jiwuwa, cikafigo para MPEG-4 ASP, x264 para H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, vo-acenc don rikodin sauti AAC y AMR-OpenCore, y ku-amrwbenc para Na'urar Raba Daidaitawa Kunkuntar bandwidin da kewayawa da kuma saurin sarrafawa, bi da bi. Don yawancin shari'ar amfani, shigar da fakitoci daga wuraren ajiya na ɓangare na uku bai zama dole ba kuma.
Python 2.7, Python 3.2, da Ruby 1.8 sun hada. Sababbin aikace-aikace don amfani da lafiya, ilimin kimiyar kwakwalwa da sauransu ana kara su. Kuna iya ganin cikakkun canje-canje a ciki wannan haɗin.
Ina cikin damuwa saboda kawai na tafi Debian 7, ta yadda za a ci gaba da kwararar sabbin fakiti a cikin Gwaji..
Hooray ... labari mai daɗi, amma ... T_T ... "sniff" "sniff" ... ba za mu sami KDE 4.10 ba tukuna
Wannan ya zo a cikin Gwaji .. amma don samun zuwa Gwaji, dole ne mu kawar da Wheezy.
Shakka. Yi tsammani cewa zuwa watan Mayu ko Yuni mara kyau yana da tabbaci kuma gwaji yana da KDE 4.10. Shin za a iya sanya KDE 4.10 a cikin wheezy tare da dace-pinning?
eh tabbas zaka iya
Ina tsammanin haka .. Zai zama dole ne yazo lokaci don gwadawa, kodayake akwai yiwuwar za su ƙara shi zuwa Wheezy Backports.
Tattara shi 😀 haha.
Wannan ba abin dariya bane ¬¬
lol, ba zai iya amfani da bayanan bayan ubuntu ba? shigar dashi akan debian? (Ba na amfani da debian, kada ku gicciye ni)
za mu so
A ra'ayina, Debian yayi nisa sosai, dole ne ku sami daidaito tsakanin kwanciyar hankali da lokaci kuma a ganina Debian baya cikawa. Baya ga gaskiyar cewa mafi tsufa ba koyaushe ne yake da karko ba, shin wani ya bayyana mani dalilin jinkirin da yawa haka? a tunanina bai dace da x)
gaisuwa
Shin zaku iya ambaton rarraba "zamani" wanda yake da tabbaci da gaske? Kuma bana nufin cewa tebur baya rataye, ko aikace-aikacen basa rufe kowane lokaci. Makasudin Debian ba kawai tebur ba ne. Lokacin da suka yanke shawara cewa sigar ta zama mai karko, saboda gaskiya ne, saboda kowane aikace-aikacen yana aiki 100% kuma da wuya, mutum bayayi. Gaskiya ne, don cimma wannan kwanciyar hankali suna ɗaukar ɗan lokaci, amma ina tabbatar muku cewa zaku iya amfani da shi debian huce dogara da cewa babu abin da zai faru da tsarin ku ... Har zuwa yuwuwar, ba shakka ..
Edito: Yi tunanin Debian a matsayin cikakken mafita ga Desktop / Servers sannan kuma ɗayan ɗayan gine-gine masu goyan baya.
Ee Zan iya, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Chakra har ma da ArchLinux ..., rabarwar suna daidaita dangane da amfanin da kuke basu, idan kawai na buɗe burauzar don shiga Facebook, to da alama ArchLinux ya daidaita kamar dutse.
A halin da nake ciki, Kubuntu yana da karko sosai kuma ina amfani dashi tare da Bayanin baya, kuma tuni nayi tunanin cewa tare da Wheezy babu abinda zai faru, shi yasa nace hakan saboda Debian Stable tana da jinkiri sosai ... watakila ba lallai bane a sami KDE 4.8, tare da 4.9 zasu zama lafiya Babu shakka bana neman 4.10 (kodayake a gare ni yana da kwanciyar hankali isa ..).
Kuma a ƙarshe, ya dogara da ko an fahimta ta "zamani" ko "na yanzu", tunda watakila a gare ku wannan yana nufin samun sabon abu ba wani abu da ya fito ba, a wurina wanda ba na yanzu bane, rashin kulawa ne xD, watan 1 na kusa duba shi daidai gwargwadon wane tsarin tsarin, sabuntawar Firefox ba iri daya bane da sabunta kwaya.
Mmm Zan kare Debian hahaha
Gaskiya akwai rami tsakanin kubutu da kwanciyar hankali na debian, amma tare da Arch.
Tare da kubuntu, chakra, Arch kwanciyar hankali na iya zama 70% zuwa 100%, tare da debian da Slackware yana da 1000%, yana da gaske da wuya a sami kwari akan waɗannan ɓarna biyu.
Kodayake na ƙi jinin debian, yana da karko da gaske, amma na fi son Slackware.
Arch 70% barga? Haha, amma yaya jahilcin ku x'D
Kuma kubuntu? Don Allah!!! kawai gaskiyar kowane watanni 6 don fitar da sabon juzu'i, koyaushe, kuma ina maimaita koyaushe ina manta wani abu, ko kuma kawai ba ni da lokacin yin duk aikin, na kasance ina amfani da Kubuntu shekara da shekaru kuma abin da yake zubar da jini yana toshe ni kowane…. 'yan kwari? Na gaji da sake sakawa, gyara kunshi da sauransu, kuma ina zurfin tunani game da kasancewa tare da Debian tunda koyaushe naji cewa yana da kwanciyar hankali (ba na yanzu ba) amma me yasa kuke son yawanci yanzu idan har hakan ta kasance tare da duk wani canjin da kuka yi wa tsarin?
Kuma mun dawo da abin da aka faɗi koyaushe, Debian rarrabawa ce ta duniya wacce ke tallafawa gine-gine da yawa ba kawai I686 da x86_64 ba, saboda haka dole ne ku tabbatar da cewa babu kurakurai ga KOWANE daga cikin waɗannan gine-ginen kafin su daidaita. Kuma abin da aka saba don dandano launuka, idan baku so shi, kar a yi amfani da shi.
Da kyau, daga ƙwarewar kaina: Kubuntu Na yi amfani da shi kwanan nan, tare da sigar 12.04 da KDE 4.10 ta amfani da Backport PPA. Don komai, Apport ya fito. A yadda aka saba rufe mai kunna bidiyo, da PUM, rahoton kuskure.
Archlinux na karshe da na ji daga gare shi shi ne cewa a KZKG ^ Gaara console ya samu wani kuskure da ya ce: Kuskuren BASH, kai ne da kanka. Kuma daga wannan ranar, sai anjima ..
Ubuntu, daidai suke da Kubuntu .. a gado ɗaya suke kwana. da Chakra, ban gwada shi ba, amma bana jin kamar suna saka min takunkumi akan fakitin Gtk. Daidai daga ɗayan abubuwan game da GNU / Linux da yancinta shine zan iya amfani da duk abin da nake so.
Abun damuwa ne amma 12.04 LTS yana da matsala sosai (ee, kawai LTS).
Ina da Ubuntu 12.10 da aka girka a rana kuma ina tabbatar muku da cewa wani abu ne daban, ba shi da kyau kamar Ubuntu, yana aiki sosai, kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka da kyar take dumamawa, Cpufreq scaler ke aiki ... Ban san yadda Kubuntu 12.10 ba zai tafi amma banyi tsammanin zai tafi da nisa ba.
+100. Ina amfani da Slackware tare da daidaitattun ka'idodi iri ɗaya.
Idan ina son abu tabbatacce kuma na zamani, zanyi amfani da ubuntu lts
Yi haƙuri, amma ban yarda da ku ba. A wannan lokacin, LTS 12.04 har yanzu yana ci gaba da ba ni kurakurai lokaci-lokaci .. Kuma a kan sabobin ban da ambatonsa, Ina da ƙwarewa ƙwarai da gaske.
Haka ne bayani, mutane da yawa waɗanda suka zo daga rabarwar da aka keɓance da gine-ginen i686 ko amd64 kawai ba su fahimci cewa Debian tana goyan bayan ƙarin gine-gine ba kuma galibi ba sa saki har sai dukkansu sun yi aiki mai kyau.
Daidai. Ina tsammanin Debian yana ɗaya daga cikin rarrabawa wanda ke tallafawa mafi yawan gine-gine a halin yanzu.
Dangane da mizanin ka? Kuma menene wannan ma'aunin?
Da farko na yi bayanin sharuɗɗan da aka yi amfani da su a cikin Debian, wanda ba shi da alaƙa da shekarun sigar, amma tare da yawan kwari. A cikin Debian kunshin bashi da karko idan ya san kwari, ba batun tsoho bane.
Na biyu, kwanciyar hankali na Debian bashi da tsofaffin fakiti, amma yana dacewa da sauran rarar sabar. Misali, nau'ikan RedHat da CentOS na yanzu, an sake su a shekarar kamar Debian 6 (2011) kuma suna da Gnome 2.28, yayin da Debian ke da sigar 2.32.
A ƙarshe a ce masu amfani da tebur na Debian galibi suna amfani da reshen gwaji.
Na gode.
Sharhin da nayi yayi dangane da abinda Elav yace (an fahimta).
@Malam Linux.
Sharhin na ya kasance a matsayin martani ga Thunder, inda ya ce a nasu ra'ayin Debian ya kamata ya sami sabbin kayan zamani.
Ya danganta da yadda kake amfani da kwamfutarka Idan kana da wata sabar kuma kana buƙatar ɓatarwa wacce ba zata taɓa faɗuwa ba, Debian tana daga cikin hanyoyin farko. Idan kana son girka tsarin aiki don amfanin iyali kuma koyaushe ba tare da kuskure ba Debian tabbas dutse, na ba da tabbacin hakan saboda na yi amfani da tsayayyen Debian tsawon shekaru.
Idan kana son Debian da aka sabunta, yi amfani da Sid wanda yake tsayayye kamar naka na Kubuntu ko na Ubuntu na yanzu ... tabbas zai gamsar da ra'ayin ku na kwanciyar hankali
Debian tana da sassauci kamar ta kowa kuma ba don komai ba ce ita ce mahaifiya ga wasu mutane, wannan ita ce rawar da Debian ke takawa kuma na yi matukar farin ciki da haka
Kwana 2 kawai da suka wuce na girka gwajin debian xD
A tarihance ina da wani ɗanɗano mara kyau a bakina da debian saboda lokacin da nake ƙoƙarin girka reshen Stable, ba zan iya amfani da maballin taɓawa ba, ko wifi, ko maɓallan keyboard wani lokacin
Na yanke shawarar yin haɗari tare da reshen gwaji kuma… yana da sauƙi mafi kyawun rarraba don amfanin yau da kullun da yanayin samarwa waɗanda na gani
Gabaɗaya kuma cikakke ne cikakke DUKAN lokacin, koda kasancewa Gwaji
Daga ubuntu zuwa Arch-Linux sun bani kwari da yawa da zarar na girka
Debian ya bani 1 kawai kuma watakila saboda kuskurena (ba ta amfani da intanet mai waya)
kuma kodayake ba ni da kunshin karshe na karshe .. abin da na ke da shi amintacce ne 100%
Debian mai tsawo, Tare da Arch-Linux, Na sami mafi kyawun ɓarna 2
Wannan shine ainihin abin da nake nufi .. da kuma cewa ina fama da cutar siga.
Af! .. yaya kuka girka Firefox? xD daga shafin yanar gizon hukuma? Ba ni da shi a cikin ajiyar 🙁
Zazzage Firefox, zazzage shi a cikin / opt kuma haɗa shi zuwa / usr / bin.
A cikin Firefox na Debian ana kiransa iceweasel 😀
Mai sauqi qwarai https://blog.desdelinux.net/como-poner-firefox-y-thunderbird-por-defecto-en-debian/
Na yarda da kai, lokacin da na girka Debian sai kawai na samu kuskure wanda ya kasance matsala game da shigarwar Grub, amma sai na warware shi kuma yana aiki sosai, Ina amfani dashi don ci gaba da Archlinux Ina amfani dashi don amfanin yau da kullun kuma suna burge ni . Amma don abubuwan da kowa yake so, abin da suke buƙata a cikin rarraba babban abu ne game da GNU / Linux cewa tare da yawancin ɓarna za ku iya samun wanda ya fi dacewa da abubuwan da kuke so da buƙatunku.
Masu amfani da Linux galibi ba su san yadda za su ji daɗin kwanciyar hankali ba kuma muna jiran ɗaukakawa wanda a lokuta da yawa da wuya su samar da ci gaba. A cikin gwajin debian na yanzu, kde 4.8 yana tafiya mai girma kuma a yanzu 4.10 ya zo, kamar yadda ya dace kamar yadda yake fita, tare da kwari. A cikin kwanciyar hankali debian zaka iya more mai kyau 4,8 kd na shekaru biyu. Kuma centos har yanzu yafi tsufa kuma bisa ga abin da suke faɗi yana da kyau sosai, yana iya samun gnome2 shekaru da yawa.
Ina amfani da CentOS kuma yana aiki mai girma tare da gnome 2.28, wanda a halin yanzu, jar hula za ta tallafawa shi har zuwa 2017 😀 Na yi tunani mai kyau game da shi lokacin da na je wannan ɓatarwar da ta faɗi cikin abin da ke da ƙarfi, amma ban samu ba kowane abin da ya sa zan buƙaci sabon software.
Hakanan kuyi tunani akai, muna buƙatar sabbin injuna na zamani don amfani da sabuwar software kuma akasin haka. A ƙarshe mun ƙare da abu iri ɗaya.
Tsararrun sifofin ba daidai bane ga masu amfani da PC na kowa, suna don sabobin ne. Akalla wannan shine jigo na koyaushe.
Tunanin da ke bayan reshe mai karko shi ne cewa zai iya aiki ba tare da matsaloli ba 99% na lokacin, adana fakitoci a halin yanzu yadda za a iya amfani da su, amma sun girma sun isa ba za su wahala da mummunan kwari da suka fito daga inda ba su sa ni ba yi haɗari da haɗarin tarin sabobin, tare da duk kuɗin da wani abu kamar wannan ya ƙunsa (kamar Heroku, misali).
Ga masu amfani na yau da kullun kamar mu, waɗanda suke son PC mai amfani, hakan ba ya makalewa (shi ya sa ba na amfani da fedora xD), kuma wannan yana da kunshin da sun isa na yanzu don kada a barsu a baya, shine cewa akwai reshen gwaji (ta amfani da shi aminci-haɓaka, ba shakka).
Ga masu haɓakawa waɗanda suke amfani da debian, saboda akwai Sid.Yanzu, da gaske ban fi son Sid ba, zan fi karkata zuwa ga ArchLike distro idan ya cancanta, amma tunda abin da na saba ci gaba abubuwa ne a cikin Python ko na yanar gizo, suna da tsarin kamar Gwaji yana ba ni kwarin gwiwa cewa ƙungiyar koyaushe za ta yi aiki kuma ba za ta bar ni cikin wahala ba, haka kuma, lokacin da nake buƙatar wani abu na yanzu (coffcoffnodejscoffcoff) koyaushe zan iya tattara shi kuma a yanzu, ko, Zan iya amfani da aikace-aikacen da aka zazzage kai tsaye, kamar yadda nake yi tare da Mozilla Aurora.
Gaisuwa 🙂
Na fara da Python kuma tabbas ina tare da reshe na 3, babu ma'ana a ci gaba da reshe na 2 wanda tuni yayi amfani da shi.
Tallafin gwajin Python3 abin bakin ciki ne, kwanan nan sai nayi aiki tare da wani wanda ya inganta ta amfani da gwajin Debian kuma fatarar fata tana da jituwa dubu da ɗaya da matsalolin ɗakin karatu,
To ina da tambaya kamar yadda na fahimci gwajin debian suna da kde 4.8 don haka zasu yi tsalle zuwa 4.10 ko 4.9?
PS my Chakra tare da kde 4.10 har yanzu bai bani kuskure ba 🙂
Al kde ya fi karko, daga abin da na gani.
Chakra «Benz» abin ban mamaki ne, wannan hargitsi ya ƙaunace ni, komai yana da ƙarfi sosai, wataƙila don ɗanɗano tare da packan kunshin amma suna faɗaɗa godiya ga al'ummar Ccr. A gefe guda, kde 4.10, na ga ya daidaita sosai ga mai amfani da shi, bai ba ni matsala ba ko kaɗan.
Fadawa cikin muhawarar debian tuni al'amari ne na baya, suna "kamar wannan", kuma basuyi kuskure ba don wani abu da yawancin distros ɗin suka ɗauki tsarin su a matsayin tushen su.
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Sannu kuma! Tuni sharhi 3 ne zanyi haha! shine karanta labarai da samar da yanayin da kowa zai bada ra'ayinsa abin birgewa ne! Gaskiyar ita ce, na karanta maganganun kuma a cikin kowane ɗayan na koyi sabon abu, idan gaskiya ne cewa sabbin kayan aikin ba a cikin Debian bane, gaskiya ne a cikin Debian duk da cewa Debian 7 ce tare da kde 4.8 kuma wataƙila ba zasu je kde 4.10 ba, amma Debian kwanciyar hankali ba ya zo daga gaskiyar cewa kwamfutarka ba ta faɗuwa, chromuim ya rufe baƙon, ba zato ba tsammani dabbar dolfin ba ta buɗe ba, kwanciyar hankali ya fi dacewa ne ga kwamfutocin da suke sabobin, kowace rana 24 akan binciken gudu , buga ayyuka da ɗawainiya kuma kwatsam sabuntawa ya fito wanda ke buƙatar dogaro da sihiri wanda zaku faɗa masa "idan ya girka" kuma kuyi ta sakewa kuma baya aiki, ta yaya tsarin ko mai gudanar da bayanai ko komai? gaskiya shine dukkanmu muna son sabbin abubuwan sabuntawa zuwa Firefox ko iceweasel ko abubuwa da yawa, amma dole ne mu tabbatar cewa tsarin "hade yake" kuma komai yana aiki, wannan shine abinda nake so game da Debian, misali, ina da kwaro - tuntuɓi daga kde, a farkon zaman an buɗe shi sau 2 da puff bug, amma wannan wani abu ne wanda za'a iya sarrafawa, ba azabtar da tsarin bane, idan lokacin da nake buƙatar wani abu kawai zan je wuraren ajiya kuma na ga cewa ina da sha'awar kuma na warware bukatata, misali edita xml, shin oxygenxml ya wanzu kuma yayi tsammani? na sirri! kowa yayi tunani ... ah na fasa! amma ba! a cikin wuraren ajiya na sami basex da xml copy kuma da wannan ina lafiya, wannan kusufin, dubban addon plugins, dakunan karatu na komai, wannan shine kwanciyar hankali, da sanin cewa kun girka wani abu akan pc ko sabarku kuma zai ci gaba da aiki! don haka koyaushe Debian!
Gaisuwa da nasara! haha! Ina so in sake raba ilimi!
ah wani abu kuma, Ina amfani da winff don canza bidiyo na, amma tunda sun canza laburaren zuwa libav yanzu yana amfani da avconv (idan banyi kuskure ba) da kyau zaku iya saita winff yayi amfani da avconv kuma voila yana aiki lafiya! Na gode! Murna!
tsarin 44, GNOME 3.4, KDE 4.8, kalli yadda zamani yake!
Amfani da shawarar Debian don GNU + Linux kamar kallon talabijin ne akan inci 14 mai inci 50 fari daga shekarun XNUMX.
Don zama mai gaskiya tare daku, yan kwanakin da suka gabata ina girka CentOS 6.3 x86_64 (EFI) akan uwar garken Proliant na HP (Debian kawai ba zai girka ba) kuma nayi mamakin irin abubuwan da bargarorin ajiyar keɓaɓɓu suka ɓace idan aka kwatanta da ma Debian Matsi, don girka wasu abubuwa ya zama dole a ƙara ƙarin wuraren ajiya kamar EPEL har ma don haka sigar ba ta dace da zamani ba.
A gefe guda, idan kuna son kasancewa a gefen jini, kuna iya sanya Debian Sid, hehe. Bianungiyar Debian da ba ta da ƙarfi tana da karko ne kawai idan aka kwatanta da barga, amma ban da wasu sabbin fakiti waɗanda har yanzu ake buƙata a goge su, sauran abubuwan fakitin tuni sun sami matakin kwanciyar hankali kuma yawanci suna samar da ci gaba ne kawai a cikin tsaro, aiki ko aiki.
Ko kuma idan kuna so ku more da sabon abu, kuna iya yin tinker tare da Debian Experimental 😉
Na san Debian sosai, na yi amfani da distro din kusan shekara guda lokacin da nake sha'awar sanin abin da ke bayan Ubuntu (wanda shine distro ɗin da ya bani damar yin ƙaura zuwa GNU + Linux na kawar da Windows XP).
Na yi amfani da barga, gwaji, da gefe - ba gwaji ba.
A waccan lokacin har yanzu abun hargitsi ne don haka a gaba daya na girka disro biyu ko uku a lokaci guda don sanin su da kuma bambanta abubuwan.
Lokacin da na koyi saukin tsarin kamar Slackware, Gentoo ko Arch Na fahimci cewa Debian ba zai yiwu ba, lokacin amfani da Slack da Arch sai na fahimci yadda sauƙin tsarin mulki zai iya bambanta da amfani da Debian - Gentoo shine sarkin sassauƙa amma na dogon shine mafi wahala don cigaba da bin Slack a hankali.
Duk da cewa yana da matsakaiciyar software ta yau da kullun kuma kasancewar sakewa ce mai birgima, Sid ba ma inuwar abin da Gentoo ko Arch yake ba, musamman saboda Sid yana da saukin fashewa a kowane lokaci tare da kowane sabuntawa.
Nah, Debian yana da ban tsoro, na san shi da kyau, Na san sabanin ra'ayi da tsarin.
Mataki, na gode sosai.
Tabbas Arch yafi Debian… ..baku yarda da hakan ba, nayi amfani dasu duka kuma Debian yafi kyau. Dukansu pacman da kusan duk wani shirin da zakuyi amfani da AUR cewa, ban da rashin tsaro, yawancin fakiti suna ba da kuskuren tattarawa, kuma kar ku gaya mani cewa ban yi amfani da baka ba tsawon shekaru. Idan aka kwatanta da wuraren ajiya na Debian, ɗakunan baka suna tsotsewa. Bugu da ƙari Debian shine tsarin aiki na duniya kuma yana tallafawa kusan dukkanin gine-ginen. Ina amfani da Debian Sid tun a karnin da ya gabata kuma ban san menene matsala ba, kuma ina da dukkan shirye-shiryen da nake so da ƙari… ..
PD Arch Linux ƙwallon distro ne
Zan baku kwarewar kaina, Ni dalibin Physics ne, kuma, duk da cewa ina son yin kwalliya da kwamputa da kuma sanin sabbin ci gaban da aka samu a cikin software, domin yau da kullun ina bukatan tsarin da zai bani damar aiki ba bata lokaci akan rufewa ba zato ba tsammani. Yana da yawa Ina buƙatar software wanda yake tabbatacce tunda manufata da kwamfutar shine inyi aiki a kimiyyar lissafi. Ina buƙatar daidaitattun sifofin Latex, GnuPlot, da ɗimbin shirye-shirye.
Zan iya yin aiki a cikin Arch misali, kuma ina da, amma a ƙarshe na fahimci cewa ina ɓata lokaci mai mahimmanci wajen karanta kowane ɗaukakawa idan tana buƙatar sa hannun hannu, da sauransu. Ban ce babu rarraba ba dadi. Ga mutane da yawa, zama da zamani yana da matukar alfanu. A gefe guda kuma, ga wasu waɗanda ba sa son kasancewa tare da abubuwa koyaushe, Ina tsammanin Debian tana ba da iyakar kwanciyar hankali.
Babu shakka, kamar yadda aka ambata, zaɓi mai kyau ga mai amfani da gida shine Debian Testing, wanda ke da software mafi kwanan nan ba tare da rasa kwanciyar hankali ba.
Har yanzu, mahawara ce ta har abada tsakanin ko an fifita ta cikin kwanciyar hankali ko a zahiri.
A bangare na zan ci gaba da gwajin Debian, koda lokacin da suka saki Wheezy cikin kwanciyar hankali, tunda hakan yana bani damar yin aiki ba tare da matsala ba.
Kuma kowane mutum gwargwadon buƙatunsa na iya zaɓar abin da ya dace da su! Yawancin malamaina misali suna amfani da Fedora.
@Tesla (kyakkyawa mai suna):
"Duk da haka, mahawara ce ta har abada tsakanin ko a fifita kwanciyar hankali ko a zahiri."
Ita ce babbar ƙarya da zaku iya karantawa a cikin duniyar F / LOSS gabaɗaya daga masu amfani da Debian kuma zuwa mafi ƙaranci daga masu gudanar da sabar da masu amfani da BSD.
Tabbatacce ne bayyananne: a yau akwai tsarin GNU + Linux waɗanda suke tsayayye kuma a lokaci guda tare da kayan aiki na zamani, kamar yadda ya kamata koyaushe ya kasance, gami da Gentoo da Arch (na musamman don yan koyo da ƙwararru) da kuma budeSUSE / Fedora a gefen tsarin gwangwani don masu amfani na ƙarshe.
Ubuntu (sabili da haka duk dangin ta) suna da babbar matsala cewa kawai suna sabunta software ɗin kowane watanni 6, ma'ana, tare da kowane sabon juzu'i, wanda yake ba komai bane domin kuwa idan kayi amfani da Ubuntu an yanke maka hukuncin rashin iya amfani da sabbin sigar aikace-aikacen. cewa kuna amfani dashi kowace rana har sai kun sabunta zuwa na gaba, wani abu da ba za a taɓa tsammani ba a dandamali na Windows da Mac da kuma kan ɓarna kamar Arch ko Gentoo.
Dangane da sanin tsarinku tare da kowane sabuntawa, kodayake gaskiya ne gaba daya, tunda tsarin ya samo asali ne daga sysadmins FOR sysadmins - saboda haka kula da kwaya da tsabtace tsarinta - yana da kusancin dangi dangane da tsarinku:
Kuna cewa tsarin Gwajin Debian yana baku damar mantawa da kula da tsarin ku ta hanyar mai da hankali kan software ɗin da kuke niyyar amfani da shi, Ina faɗin cewa mafi girma ko ƙarami BS ne. Me ya sa? Saboda wannan Gwaji daga lokaci zuwa lokaci yana neman sa hannun mai amfani don yanke shawara idan yana son sake rubuta wannan ko fayil ɗin daidaitawa ko shirya su akan ƙaura, wanda hakan ba zai zama atomatik 100% ba.
Yanzu idan sha'awarka ba bata lokaci bane akan tsarin mulki kuma mayar da hankali kan amfani da aikace-aikacen Arch Linux ɗinka -ko kowane tsarin zubar jini - suna ba ka damar yin shi cikakke. yaya? Da zarar ka shigar da tsarin ba kwa buƙatar sabuntawa gaba 😀
A zahiri, ga samfurin da yake da Gwaji inda ɗaukakawa ke jinkirin jinkiri, zaku iya ɗaukar lokaci ɗaya ta amfani da Arch, ba tare da sabunta tsarin ba, kuma sabunta shi sau ɗaya a wata, kowane wata biyu ko KADA kai tsaye kuma kawai sabunta aikace-aikacen da kuke sha'awar amfani!
Kyakkyawan tsarin da aka sanya kuma mai aiki ba ya buƙatar sabuntawa don ci gaba da aiki har abada kuma, akasin haka, ta amfani da Arch kuna da damar yin amfani da software ta zamani, ba tare da faci ba kuma ba tare da buƙatar sanya ƙirar ido na abin dogaro wanda hakan zai buƙaci a shigar da sabbin dogaro ba.
Bambanci kawai a cikin wannan takaddama tsakanin Arch da Debian shine cewa Arch yana da sauƙin sauƙaƙawa don gudanarwa kuma Debian ba shi da matuƙar wahala.
Yayi daidai, duk da haka dole ne ku shiga don tantance yawancinmu da yawa suna jin an fi dacewa da kwangilar zamantakewar Debian.
ArchLinux yana da kyakkyawan wiki, yana da kishi sosai. A matakin Gentoo. Koyaya, ka'idar sa ta KISS da aka ɗauka a matsananci ba nawa bane. Al'amarin dandano, tabbas
Kuma kwarewar da nake da ita tare da masu yin sulhu na tashar Arch na hukuma ba shi da kyau, suna ga ni a mafi yawan ɓangaren iko da rashin haƙuri. A zahiri yana daga cikin dalilan barin Arch, wanda yayi daidai ko kuskure, a ganina ya isa sosai. Baya ga sa hannun hannu na wasu sabuntawa wanda yasa na rasa Debian.
Amma ban da wannan, idan zan bar tsarin kamar Arch ba tare da sabuntawa ba, waɗanne fa'idodi yake ba ni idan aka kwatanta da Debian? A ganina, babu. Kayan gwajin Debian yana da kyau sosai ga bukatuna.
Kuma abin da kuka ce game da gwaji kuma yana buƙatar sa hannun, a kusan. shekaru biyu na amfani da gwaji ban taɓa buƙatar sa hannun hannu ba. Wataƙila hakan ne ya faru.
Amma kai, da wannan bana son in kawo maka hari ko Arch, kawai na kawo dalilina ne da yasa na fi son Debian. A halin da nake ciki ya dogara ne da kwangilar zamantakewar jama'a, a kan kwanciyar hankali / aminci / kwanciyar hankali da Debian ya bani. Kuma cewa tana girka inda ya girka, koyaushe zaiyi aiki.
Kuma ba da ra'ayi daban idan zai yiwu a ga cewa kwanciyar hankali ya kai matuka ga wasu shine babban abokinmu!
Gaisuwa! 🙂
Kwancen Debian shine ROCK. Lu'u lu'u a cikin kambin GNU-Linux, ba tare da wata shakka ba.
Gwaji ga waɗanda basu tsaya cak ba kuma suna da laushi kamar kuliyoyi.
GNU-Linux kuma falsafa ce, hanyar fahimtar rayuwa.
Sabbin ilimin cututtukan cuta: samun sabon abu a komai. Nemi sabon abu, F5! F5! Labarai Weet Gudun abubuwa. Bugawa fasahar = mafi girma farashin. Canja na'urori a shekara mai zuwa ... FATA. Dodan jari hujja yana jujjuya dabaran don biyan bukatunmu, raunin mu.
Yin jinkiri hanya ce ta canza fifiko (kodayake akwai mutanen da har yanzu basu fahimce ta ba), don murƙushe matsayin da Apple da Microsoft ke bayarwa.
Saboda kasancewa mai karko shi ne fifiko, ba "kasancewa cikin sabon salon ba." Kasance cikin nutsuwa ga kowa kuma a kowane yanayi. Ba muna magana ne game da "gogewa" na mai amfani ba tare da marubuci mai sanyi, ko lanƙwasa madauki tare da sigar Beta na 2.45.6bc na shirin kiɗanku. Wani abu ne kuma.
Debian 7 Wheezy yana zuwa.
"Tabbatar da Debian abin RUFE ne."
Karya ne, Na san sysadmins da yawa waɗanda suka yiwa Squeeze da Lenny ƙyalli sosai a da saboda kowane lokaci injinan zasu faɗi.
"Lu'ulu'u a cikin kambin GNU-Linux, ba tare da wata shakka ba."
Themauke su.
Tabbas duk fakitoci suna facin har sai sun zama baza su ƙara zama ba.
Suna yanke shawarar yanke shawara gaba ɗaya don zaɓar kundin adireshi inda zasu adana bayanai da saituna.
Yawancin lokaci dogaro tsakanin fakiti na da ban tsoro.
Tsarin atomatik na komai wanda zai yiwu don sake fasalin kansa.
Amfani daemon ta atomatik lokacin shigar dasu.
Archaic apt / dpkg haɗuwa.
Rashin girmamawa ga ayyukan masu haɓakawa: musamman apache, nginx da bind9 (abin kunya ne aiwatarwar da suke yi na wannan software ɗin).
Babu shakka, idan maimakon yin abin da aka rera wa Debian game da lokacin ɗora kayan software na gaba, suna da tsarin tsabtace tsabta da tsari mai kyau, ba zai ɗauki ƙarni don magance kwari da ke asali ba ma wanzu.
Na bi kwangilar zamantakewar Debian, a zuciya, amma abin da aiwatar da GNU + Linux na Debian shine SUCKS.
Jauhari mai kambi? DON ALLAH.
Zai zama dole a ga wane irin kayan aiki, software da tsari waɗanda sysadmin suke da shi, saboda gidan Debian bai taɓa faɗuwa a kaina ba, da gaske, ba sau ɗaya ba tun ƙarshen 2008 wanda shine na shiga duniyar software ta kyauta da gaske. . Idan wani abu ya fasalta da Debian, to daidaitorsa ke nan.
Gaskiya ne cewa Debian yana gyara fakiti da yawa kuma idan aka kwatanta da ƙaramin tsari masu dogaro na iya zama mafi girma, amma wannan shine cinikin duk wani tsarin da ke neman haɗin kai da daidaito tsakanin fakitin kuma a lokaci guda yana buƙatar ƙaramar mu'amala don sanyi na waɗannan, wanda za'a iya ɗaukarsa halin kirki ko lahani, gwargwadon kusurwar da kuka kalle ta.
Ya ƙaunata Hugo:
«Gaskiya ne Debian tana gyara kunshe-kunshe da yawa kuma idan aka kwatanta da ƙaramin tsarin masu dogaro na iya zama mafi girma, amma wannan shine cinikin duk wani tsarin da ke neman ɗan haɗuwa da daidaito tsakanin fakitin kuma a lokaci guda yana buƙatar ƙaramar mu'amala don daidaitawar waɗannan, waɗanda za a iya ɗauka a matsayin kyakkyawa ko lahani, ya danganta da kusurwa kamar yadda aka kalle ta. "
Kodayake na yarda da sakin layi na farko, amma ni da sauran wannan.
Bari mu dauki Arch da Slack misali: dukkanin tsarin suna da tsananin girmama bukatun masu haɓaka, don haka buƙatar ƙarin dogaro ko gyare-gyaren kunshin ya zama kaɗan, wanda ke fassara cikin tsafta, tsayayyen tsari, mai sauƙin sarrafawa. , hadadden abu iri daya wanda yake daidaita sau daya yana bukatar kadan ko babu mu'amala, musamman Slack wanda yake haskawa a sabobin.
Abinda zan gabatar game da Debian shine kuskuren fahimtarsa (IMHO) game da menene ci gaba da gudanarwa na tsarin GNU + Linux tunda aiwatarwar da sukeyi abune mai wahala da wahala, a zahiri idan kayi nazari da kyau, da gaske bayayi babu wani kunshin sama wanda yake buƙatar gyara idan tsarin aiwatar da tushe yayi daidai.
Hakanan wani abu shine gyara kunshin wani kuma don canza su kamar yadda yake a yanayin Apache / Nginx / PHP / BIND9 ko amfani / var don komai.
Na gode!
Don haka ina ganin kai kadai ne mutumin da na sani wanda ya san wani wanda ya yi korafi game da Matsi da Lenny, saboda ka yarda da ni, idan Debian Stable ta fadi, me za a bari saura?
Abinda suka gaya min kenan, ina tabbatar muku, yanzu tunda bana amfani da Debian hakan bai taba faruwa dani da kaina ba ^ _ ^
"Ni Debian Stable tayi hadari, me zai rage saura?"
Ba ka ganin yana da yawa? Ina tsammanin Slackware na iya koya muku wasu abubuwa kaɗan; -D (Ba na faɗin Arch don kada ya zama fan ...)
Yarda da ni lokacin da na gaya muku cewa ba zan gaya muku komai ba game da Slackware, amma ArchLinux? Kuna iya kasancewa duk mai kishin da kuke so, ba zaku taɓa gamsar da ni cewa ArchLinux yana da karko sosai ba Debian Stable .. abada !!
Na yarda da bayani, Archlinux an daidaita shi sosai kuma an sarrafa shi a mafi kyau kamar gwajin debian ne wanda aka daskarar da shi, banda lokacin da sabbin sigar KDE, gnome, da sauransu suka fito, hakan yafi ubuntu kwari kuma ina faɗin hakan da duk wata soyayya da nake yiwa baka, Rarrabawa ce mafi soyuwa kuma ina amfani da ita kullun, amma dole ne mu kasance masu hankali kuma mu yarda cewa debian ma'ana ce ta kwanciyar hankali, koda a cikin nau'ikan gwajinsa ya danganta da ko yana kusa da daskarewa ko a'a yana iya zama kamar ko mafi daidaito fiye da na rarrabawa.
Yana da ban sha'awa sosai don iya karanta ra'ayoyin sauran masu amfani.
Akwai dasoshin Linux masu kyau sosai, wanda kuke amfani da shi ya dogara da abin da kuke buƙata da abin da kuke so.
A gare ni Debian (gwaji) shine wanda nake ganin shine mafi alkhairi don bukatuna na yau da kullun. Ina amfani da Linux a matsayin tebur na ofis, Libreoffice, samun abubuwa gnome, gnucash, thunderbird…. kuma ban taba wasa ba.
Gaskiyar cewa fakitin sun fi ko lessasa sabuntawa yana damu ni kaɗan, Na damu da kwanciyar hankali kuma ban gyara abubuwa kowane biyu zuwa uku ba.
A tsohuwar tsohuwar komfuta da nake amfani da ita kaɗan na girka debian wheezy (yana nuni zuwa kwanciyar hankali na gaba) saboda wannan dalili.
A wasu bangarorin ina da wasu abubuwan hargitsi don lokacin da nake da lokaci kuma ina so in koya ta hanyar gyara abubuwa ko yin gwaje-gwaje.
Game da dandano babu wani abu da aka rubuta.
Gwajin sanyi. (Yaya sanyi ne na Mutanen Espanya «Mutanen Espanya») hehe
Babu wani abin da gwajin ya fi kyau, gaskiya ne cewa yana bayan wasu abubuwa masu yawa da ake kira "yankan" amma dutse ne, tsarin da nake da shi a gida bai gaza ba cikin watanni kuma duba abin da nake yi, na canza kwaya Na girka fakiti na 3, tafi shakatawa ne ba gazawa ba. (buga itace)
Na kasance cikin gwaji kusan shekara daya da rabi kuma komai yana da kyau, kuma tare da xfce 4.10 😉
Shin kun tattara Xfce 4.10? Na yi a lokacin 😀
Ra'ayoyin nawa ko Debian WIki tana samun kyau? Da alama ya fi ƙwarewa fiye da da.
Mai girma, da fatan zuwa watan Maris za su daskarar da reshen gwajin, kuma ni wani ne wanda ba shi da matsala game da debian, na yi amfani da fedora amma gaskiya akwai wasanni da yawa da ba su cikin fedora wadanda suke cikin gwajin debian.
A gare ni mafi kyau shine gwajin debian.
hi ina da ubuntu 12.04 lts. kuma duk lokacin da na shiga yanar gizo don yin wasa a shafukan da suke amfani da java yakan daskare. Na sanya openjdk da java oracle a cikin dukkan sigar kuma abu ɗaya ne yake faruwa da ni koyaushe, yanzu in yi wasa dole ne in shiga windows kuma yana da zafi in saurari riga-kafi ban da sauran fushin; waccan matsalar ta java ba ta faruwa a cikin debian?
Debian abin birgewa ne, babban tallafi na dandamali da daidaitaccen reshe don sabar gida da aikin sarrafa kai dutse ne. Don PC ɗin na wani labari ne kamar yadda ni mai amfani da KDE ne da aikace-aikacen sa, Ina amfani da ƙwararren masani, mai tsafta da gyara kamar Chakra Project.
Mun riga mun kasance 2 😛 don Chakra ɗina cikakke ne saboda yana bani duk abin da nake buƙata, kasancewar yana jujjuyawa yana sabunta aikace-aikacen da KDE da sauran su suna riƙe shi har sai sun tabbata sun gama bincike ...
Uff, kusan kamar yana sa ka so ka gwada shi da yawan talla da suke yi!
Za mu gani…
Jiran sabon sigar da aka ce tsarin;)!
Na gode!
Ina amfani da Ubuntu tun 9.04, babu matsala.
Debian yayi amfani dashi akan wata na'ura tunda Lenny, babu matsala.
Lokacin da na ce babu matsala ina nufin tsarin, saboda abin mamaki, na yi barna sau biyu a kan Ubuntu da kuma ta Debian.
Ina so in sanya archlinux amma ba zan iya ba, wata rana.
wani yayi kokarin girka systemd? Zan jira irin wannan labarin daga debian wiki don fassara zuwa Spanish don shakku
Gaskiyar ita ce, idan baku taɓa inda bai kamata ku ba, Debian KADA za ku kasa. Matsalar ita ce, Na gaji da kwanciyar hankali xDD
Ina son yin wasa a inda ban kamata ba kuma ni ma ina fama da cutar cutar siga. Ina da Gnome-Shell 3.4.4.1, 3.4.4.1-1 ya fito kuma ZUWA GABATARWA kamar mahaukaciyar xDDD
Kuma ina sane, ba zai inganta tsarin kwata-kwata ba, amma ga alama tasirin wuribo hehehe
Kashi 90% na kwari koyaushe suna zuwa ne daga yanayin tebur. Domin a tsarin tsari, dutse ne.
Kamar yadda na karanta, tsarin ba ya zuwa ta tsoho. Na karanta wiki na Debian kuma ba a bayyane ya ke ba a gare ni. Shigar da kunshin tsarin tuni yana aiki, ko kuwa wani abu za a yi?
daidai wannan shine abinda bai bayyana gareni ba
anan ka daina cewa kawai girka shi http://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installation
amma wannan yana nuna cewa dole ne ku saita wani abu dabam http://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Issue_.231:_sysvinit_vs._systemd-sysv
Na canza tsarin / etc / tsoho / grub saitin tsari kuma lokacin farawa, hakika yayi shi tare da tsari. Amma ban lura da wani ci gaban sauri ba don haka ina tsammanin wani abu ya ɓace
Gaskiya ne, har ma da alama zai dauki tsawon lokaci (tabbas zaman na ne), ba ya nuna sakonni da yawa, har sai bakin allon ya sauka na wani lokaci sannan kuma ga sauki na, mai kula da sashen 🙂
Wannan daga tsarin shine zamba xDDDD
akwai matsala, debian 7 ba za ta zo tare da hurd ba
Da kyau, sun yi kuskure a kan Wiki na Debian sannan .. 😉
Kuma yaushe zai dauki Wheezy ya zama mai nutsuwa! ???… Ina nufin! tare da cewa mun riga mun sami RC
Da fatan sati 1 ya rage, kodayake yana iya daukar wata 1, wa ya sani!
Barka dai, shin kun san lokacin da za a saki bargon Debian 7? Na gode.
Madalla, Ina farin ciki da cewa akwai sabbin fakitoci.
Zan shigar da Ginin yau da kullun, wanda nake damuwa game da xDD
Bari mu ga yadda ta kasance ...
Na yi farin ciki da cewa Linux gnu na ci gaba kuma bayan lokaci mai tsawo ba tare da isassun gine-ginen wayoyi ba a ƙarshe (Ina fata) cewa tare da kyakkyawar falsafar tarihinta za ta iya ninka ko ninki uku na ƙarfin kowane ɗayan ikonsa. , hanyoyin sadarwa, tsarin, shirye-shirye, da sauransu. Na fahimci cewa a irin waɗannan mahimman ranakun magana ta hanyar fasaha, tsakanin sauran masu amfani, sun yanke shawarar gudanar da ainihin su akan kayan aikin da aka fi amfani dasu kuma tare da matsalolin riba a cikin lamura da yawa. Iphone, Router, AppleTV, kyamarori da dai sauransu. Ban gwada shi ba tukuna tunda tsakanin iOS da sauran kamfanonin ba ni da zabin motsa lamuransu ga abubuwana. A halin yanzu adadin abubuwan shigarwar Google sunyi kadan don sanin shi kuma na fahimci cewa dole ne in nemi ƙarin abubuwa. Ba ni da haƙuri don sanin shafukan yanar gizo da sauransu a duk faɗin duniya kuma gaskiyar ita ce idan sun magance matsalolin matsalolin da suka gabata zan yi amfani da shi yau da kullun a kusan komai.
duk masu rudani suna da fa'ida da fa'ida, kodayake debian tana da karko, wani lokacin ba zan iya samun shirye-shiryen ba a cikin sabon juzu'in su, wanda ba lallai bane ya zama dole, amma a wasu lokuta, ubuntu yana rayuwa a halin yanzu amma ya zama mai nauyi da ba Kullum yana da karko ba, amma ga slackware abin birgewa ne amma ba kowa bane zai iya girka shi, saboda haka ya dogara da ƙarfinmu da dandano, Linux tana ba da yanci saboda haka bai kamata muyi faɗa idan x ko distro sun fi kyau ba, amma dai amfani da fa'idodin da hakan ya bamu 'yanci.
gyara maɓuɓɓukan.list kuma sanya mafi ɗakunan ajiya na zamani
Ban canza daga debian ba, baya taba bani kurakurai kuma cewa bashi da na zamani yafi yawa, hakane mutanen da basu san yadda ake amfani dashi ba suke cewa
PS: abin dariya ne inga mutanen da suka sanya debian ba daidai bane, basu gane mara waya ba hahaha yara ƙanana kuma manajan cibiyar sadarwa bai san yadda ake girka ba.
Shin kun gwada Ubuntu 12.10 ko kowane hoto daga 13.04?
Kodayake gaskiya ne abin da kuka fada cewa Ubuntu a al'adance yana da nauyi kuma yana da nauyi a cikin fitowar kwanan nan amma sun goge shi _muchísimo_ kuma hakan yana nuna cewa da kaɗan kaɗan suna isa ga rarraba / OS suna da niyya kuma ya daina kasancewa "ƙasar ba ta kowa" ko yankin na gwaje-gwajen da ya kasance a baya.
Abin da ya fi haka, a cikin fewan kwanaki suna haɗa sabon juzu'in desktopaunin shimfidar Unity (fasali na 13.04) a cikin hotuna Ubuntu 7 na yau da kullun, wanda ke da sabbin lambobi da yawa kuma ya haɗa da gyara da ingantawa don yin shi da sauri da sauƙi.
Na zo ne daga shekarun da nake amfani da Arch Linux wanda ke da haske da sauri kuma ina tabbatar muku cewa don ƙwarewar Unity, Ubuntu 12.10 da 13.04 suna aiki sosai.
A zahiri, da alama har sun inganta kernel ta yadda kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka na talauci yanzu da kyar ma yake jin zafi yayin da a cikin sifofin Ubuntu na baya zan iya yin gasasshen nama ...
Kawai shigar da debi7 Na kasance cikin fara'a ... wannan alpha ne wanda yake farawa azaman abin al'ajabi kuma babu abin da yake aiki kamar yadda yakamata, ko suna aiki tuƙuru don samun shi a cikin lokaci ko wannan zai zama farkon debian a cikin tarihi maras ƙarfi da cikakke na gazawa, Ina tsammanin zai kusan shirye, yi haƙuri game da lokacin da aka ɓata lokacin shigar da shi, yana da wahala a gwada wani abu da ba ya aiki, zai kusan zama ana kiransa Debiarch maimakon Debian hehe, Ina ganin kaina zuwa Slak ko Gentoo
«Wannan shine yadda ya kamata a kira Debiarch maimakon Debian hehe,»
Ahahahahaha ...
Amma yaya furry
Kuma jahili.
Na yi amfani da shekaru 5 Arch wanda kawai sai na sake sanyawa sau 2 kuma duka lokutan saboda rashin kwarewa, don yin sanduna lokacin da kawai nake sanin masaniya.
Shigarwa ta biyu ta ɗan wuce shekaru 3, koyaushe ba tare da matsala ba kuma tare da sababbin sifofin duk aikace-aikacen, wani abu da babu wani mai amfani da Debian da ya san abin da yake game da shi, ana amfani dashi don amfani da software tare da cobwebs xD
Debian don sabobin shine kawai ƙarin mediocre distro kuma don tebur an yanke shawara baya tare da wuraren adana shi cike da tsofaffin aikace-aikace don ku iya kiyaye abun baƙin cikin ku.
Tabbas, ta yaya Arch ba zai dame masu bashi ba idan yawancin basu da ikon amfani da shi!? 😀