Amanqaku amabini kwelinye, anokuhambelana nenkqubo

Iindaba kwi iphoronix izimvo ukuba iyaqhubeka Ingxoxo kwiDebian malunga Yintoni omawuyenze ngenkqubo yakho yokuqalisa. Ixesha elithile ngoku bekukho amazwi abiza uhlaziyo kunye nokususa i-sysvinit endala. Kwaye ngaphakathi kwaloo mazwi ukukhuphisana phakathi kwabo baxhasa i-systemd, abo baxhasa i-upstart kunye (kakhulu, bambalwa kakhulu) abo baxhasa i-openrc ...... kwaye abazimisele ukuxhasa ngaphezu kwesinye.

Ingxoxo inoburhalarhume kwaye kwanele ukuhlanganisa incwadi enemiqulu emininzi (bahamba ngayo Imiyalezo ye2500, kwaye le bug yavulwa kwiinyanga nje ezi-2 ezidlulileyo!!!). I-systemd inenkxaso yee-distros ezininzi ezifudukele ngempumelelo (i-Fedora, i-Arch, i-OpenSuse, njl.), kodwa abalandeli bayo bayazisola ukuba i-Debian kufuneka igcine iinguqulelo ze-FreeBSD kernel, apho i-systemd ingafakwanga (kwaye uLennart akacebi ukuyichaza) . Yintoni efakwe kwi-FreeBSD yi-OpenRC (enyanisweni ukusiwa kwiDebian KBFreeBSD kwaphunyezwa), kodwa kuphela iGentoo kunye nezinto eziphuma kuyo eziyisebenzisayo (ngaphandle kweSabayon esebenzisa i-systemd). Kwaye i-Upstart inenzuzo yokuphuma ezantsi (Ubuntu kunye ne-derivatives yayo kunye ne-Chrome OS), kodwa iyawa mfutshane xa ithelekiswa ne-systemd. Kwaye ukuba songeze kule ngxoxo ngaphandle kwezintlu zeDebian, phakathi kwazo Uluvo lukaLennart y UPatrick Lauer Ukuphendula (kuLennart), nayiphi na i-flamewar incinci xa kuthelekiswa.

Mhlawumbi yayiziindaba kwi-phoronix ukuba sele kukho iimbono ngaphakathi kwekomiti yezobuchwepheshe yeDebian. Kwelinye icala kukho Ian Jackson (Debian daemon umgcini) ngubani othanda i-Upstart. Uyithathela ingqalelo ubuncinci bayo, ngokudityaniswa ngcono kwikhowudi yedaemon, ngokulula kwayo ukupakisha, ube noluntu olunekratshi elincinci (ngokutsho kwakhe) kunye nokuba ulungele ngakumbi ukukhethwa kuJessie (OpenRC ayika). Ikwabonisa ukuba izinto ezingeloncedo ezifana nokunqongophala kwe-IPv6 kunye ne-UDP ye-socket activation okanye i-multiple socket activation ayifuni zigqibo ezinzima zesakhiwo kwaye ngoko zinokusonjululwa ngokulula ngakumbi.

Kwaye kwelinye icala kukho Russ Allbery ngubani oxhasa i-systemd: Okokuqala, ucinga ukuba i-OpenRC yeyona ndlela yogcino kwaye akafuni nokusokola ekusombululeni iziphene ezinjengokunqongophala kokudityaniswa neziganeko kwinqanaba le-kernel okanye ukuxhomekeka kwayo ngakumbi kwizikripthi zeqokobhe kune-syntax echazayo. Ngokubhekiselele kulawulo lwenkonzo, ukusebenza kweesokethi kuvelele (kungekhona nje ukuqalisa kodwa ukwenza oko ngokufana), ukuhlanganiswa kwemeko ye-daemon (epheleleyo ngakumbi kune-upstart) kunye nokhuseleko olunzulu. Kwakhona khumbula ukuba I-Debian sele isebenzisa i-systemd (ingakumbi i-login) kwizicelo ezithile ezinje nge-udev kunye ne-gnome (enguqulelo yayo 3.8 sele ivavanywa) kwaye osele ecinge ngesicwangciso sokufuduka.

Kwaye malunga nombuzo wokuphatheka, abalandeli be-systemd kwi-LWN.net bathi "Akukho nto inje ngesoftware ephathwayo, kukho isoftware kuphela eyayifakwe.»Ngamanye amagama, nokuba ngabathwali beDebian be-kFreeBSD kunye ne-Hurd bayayenza ukuba isebenze, okanye baya kuzikruna ngokwabo. Kwaye olu khetho lwesibini lunobunzima ukusukela (ngokwepopcon) kuphela yi-0,09% yabasebenzisi be-Debian abane-FreeBSD Kernel efakiweyo.

Ngeli xesha, umphuhlisi we-KWin uMartin Gräßlin ulandela ingxoxo ye-Debian ebendiyikhankanyile, kwaye uyawuthanda uthelekiso olwenziwa nguRuss Allbery phakathi kwe-systemd kunye ne-upstart kunye nezimvo kwiakhawunti yakhe ye-google+ anenjongo yokuyenza. dibanisa inkqubo kwiPlasma, kwaye ngendlela, nayiphi na imeko-bume esebenzisa i-Wayland igqithiselwa kwi-systemd. Ngokukodwa ufuna ukusebenzisa i socket activation ukuqalisa iseshoni ye-KWin.

UChristian Loosli ubuza ukuba i KDE ayinakuxhomekeka kakhulu. UMartin uphendula ukuba i-KDE inokuxhomekeka okuphezulu, ngakumbi kwi-QT, kodwa ngaphandle koko, bayifunayo kuphela kwiimpawu ezingekho kwi-OpenRC okanye kwi-Upstart, kodwa okona kubaluleke kakhulu, kuba bafuna i KDE ixhomekeke kwi kdbus (umhloli wakho wenkonzo ye-d-bus iprojekthi efuna ukudibanisa i-d-bus kwikernel) esele ixhomekeke kwi-systemd. Ikwatsho ukuba ungakhathazeki malunga nenkqubo yokuqalisa kuba Oku kuya kuzimela nokuba usebenzisa i-OpenRC okanye i-SysVInit (enyanisweni, iGentoo isebenzisa i-systemd nangona i-init yayo i-OpenRC. Ngoko ke "akumele kubekho ingxaki ngeDebian"). Emva koko ngu-Eric Hameleers (ilungu le-Slackware coreteam) okhalaza ukuba bafuna ukukhetha itekhnoloji eyenzelwe iLinux kuphela (kwakhona umba wokuphatheka). UMartin umcela ukuba afunde isithuba seentsomi zobuxoki ezabhalwa nguLennart. Ukuba uyamthemba uMartin.

Ucinga ntoni ngepanorama? Iindaba ezilandelayo kufuneka ndenze inqaku malunga ne-systemd, ndiza kuyenza njengebali malunga nomdlalo webhola ekhatywayo.

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  1.   -nobunzima sitsho

    Singasathethi ke ukuba abathathu kwabo bavotela ukuqalisa, ababini ngabasebenzi be-canonical kwaye omnye wayengumsebenzi wangaphambili.

    Phakathi kwe-Upstar / Systemd kunye ne-Mir / Waylad kubonakala ngathi kukho ukhuphiswano olugcwele ingxabano phakathi kwesofthiwe eyenziwe yiCanonical kunye neyokukhuthazwa yi-Red Hat (phakathi kwabanye).

  2.   rolo sitsho

    Ndicinga ukuba kuhle kakhulu ukuba ukuphunyezwa kwe-systemd okanye upstart okanye i-OpenRC kwi-Debian kuxoxwe ngayo. Kucacile ukuba i-sysvinit ifikelela esiphelweni somjikelo omkhulu kwaye ekugqibeleni ndiyakholelwa ukuba akuyi kubakho ngxaki ekuqhubekeni nokusebenzisa i-sysvinit kwi-KFreeBSD kunye ne-Hurd ngelixa enye yezi ezinye iindlela iphunyezwa kwi-Linux.
    Ekupheleni kosuku u-Hurd kufuneka aqale ukulawula ukuxhasa iidiski zeSATA, i-USB, ezinye izahlulo ezingekho ext2, inkxaso yesandi, i-architectures ye-64-bit, phakathi kwezinye izinto. ke ukuxhasa inkqubo okanye i-upstart isekupheleni koluhlu olude lwezinto eziphambili. Ndicinga ukuba i-KFreeBSD iya kuba neengxaki ezimbalwa ukuyixhasa.

    Kwisihloko se-systemd okanye i-upstart kubonakala ngathi i-systemd inenzuzo ethile
    ubuchule kwaye eso sisiqalo sinethamsanqa elaneleyo lokubotshelelwa ku-Ubuntu kwaye akukho mntu wumbi.

  3.   cr0t0 sitsho

    Inqaku le-Diazepan malunga nemeko yangoku ye-systemd kwi-Debian lihle kakhulu kwaye likwazise kancinane, kuba kukho ii-distros ezininzi ezisebenzisa esi siqalisi (I-Siduction, eyi-DEBIAN, sele iyiphumeza). Njenge-debianite, umntu umbona evela ngaphandle, ngezikhathi ezithile ehleba kwiiforamu zabantu abanesibindi be-ARCH.
    Ndifumana ufezekiso kunye nengqikelelo entsonkothileyo: Ngaba sisikhokelo?Phakathi kwezinto ezininzi, ivumela inkqubo ukuba ilayishe ngokukhawuleza ngokwenza iinkqubo ngokunxuseneyo?
    Ukuba ngumama wee-distros ezininzi kwaye unxulunyaniswa no-STABILITY, kufuneka bathathe lonke ixesha emhlabeni ukuze baxoxe ngayo (okanye ubuncinci ngaphambi kokuba uJessie abe ngumkhenkce)

    PS: Ukuba igama lakho asiyo-IAN, ngaba awusebenzi kwiprojekthi ye-DEBIAN? xd

  4.   ihlwempu taku sitsho

    Ukuba yiDebian (kunye nezinto eziphuma kuzo) olona sasazo lusetyenziswayo, ukuphatheka kunye nokuzimela kubalulekile, kodwa ndingumfundi olula we-GNU-programming ke andinakuba yinxalenye yezi ngxoxo zobugcisa.
    I-ep elandelayo ilindelekile, ukufunda le kwakusonwabisa

  5.   UFernando sitsho

    Inqaku elinomdla.
    Bendifuna nje ukuhlomla kwizinto ezimbini. Eyokuqala kukuba, ukuba i-systemd ikhutshwe phantsi kwemiqathango yelayisensi ye-LGPL, umyalelo wePottering wokungayifaki kwiinkqubo ezingezizo ze-Linux awunaxabiso. Nabani na angayenza kuba ilayisenisi iyakuvumela oko.
    Ngokumalunga ne KDBUS, ayisiyoprojekthi ye KDE kodwa kukuphunyezwa kwe DBUS kwi Linux kernel.

    Ndiyakholelwa ukuba, ekubeni ndibe ngumsebenzisi we-Ubuntu ukusuka kwi-6.06 ukuya kwi-10.10 kwaye namhlanje ungumsebenzisi we-Arch ukususela ekupheleni kukaDisemba 2010, i-systemd iphezulu kune-Upstart. Utshintsho olusuka kwi-sysvinit lulula kwaye ukufunda indlela yokusebenzisa i-systemd kulula kakhulu.

    1.    iipandev92 sitsho

      Into ekufuneka ndiyenze kukuyeka ukwenza i-webon! Ndisayikhumbula inkunkuma enkulu yepulseaudio kunye nokubandezeleka okubangele thina basebenzisi beLinux kwiminyaka yokuqala, kwaye ekugqibeleni yazinikela kwi-porting systemd kwezinye iiunixes.

    2.    isanga sitsho

      Ingxaki nge-porting systemd kwezinye iinkqubo kukuba i-infrastructure ayikho kwezo nkozo kuba kukho amacandelo ayimfuneko okanye amacandelo afanayo anokuthi athathe indawo yawo xa esebenza. I-Poring systemd kwi-kfreebsd ingafuna ukuxhoma amanye amalungu ngokunjalo, ikakhulu amaqela. Ngamanye amazwi, ngokukaLenart kufana nokuzama ukumisa inqwelomoya kwilizwe apho kungekho zikhululo zeenqwelo moya. Ngokombono wam kufuneka basebenzise i-openCR kwezinye iikernel kwaye bashiye inkqubo kwi-Linux, ayinakuba i-99.1% yabasebenzisi bagwetyelwe ukusebenzisa isisombululo esingaphantsi nge-0.9%. Singasathethi ke ukuba i-kfreebsd kunye ne-hurd sele isebenzisa uqwalaselo olwahluke kakhulu kunoguqulelo lwe Linux.

  6.   IZiphu sitsho

    I-FreeBSD kernel, apho i-systemd ingafakwanga (kwaye ayizukuhanjiswa, ngomyalelo ocacileyo weLennart Pottering) […]

    Ingaba unawo nawuphi na umthombo/ikhonkco lalo myalelo? Kuba kubonakala kum ngathi i-Systemd yi-GNU, kwaye okoko ihlala ikhululekile akukho mntu unokuyalela nantoni na. Ndicinga ukuba le nto wayeyithethile kukuba akazuwenza ngokwakhe loo msebenzi, usebenzela i-GNU/Linux kuphela, yilonto le nto niyibhale ezindabeni ivakala imbi kakhulu, ngathi i-Pottering yi-monster or something like that.

    1.    mzantsiweb sitsho

      Sele ndiyilungisile, kodwa ewe. U-Lennart uthi akwenzeki kwi-port systemd ukuya kwi-BSD kwaye abayi kwamkela iipetshi ukuze iphatheke nokuba yi-BSD okanye i-Hurd (ikwizimvo).
      https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/8RmiAQsW9qf

  7.   Christopher sitsho

    Ewe, okoko kubonakala kumsebenzisi, andikhathali into endikhathazayo kukuba amadangatye abandakanya wonke umntu, kubonakala ngathi wonke umntu utshata kwiteknoloji kwaye akaboni ukuba yeyiphi engcono.

  8.   Christopher sitsho

    Kubi kakhulu ukuba umlo ulinde ndaphela ndinobuchule xa ndikhetha.

  9.   AdrianArroyoStreet sitsho

    Ngokombono wam kufuneka uxhomekeke kancinci kangangoko kuphunyezo olunye okanye kwenye. Ndithetha oku nge KDE. Kufuneka bagcine ukuxhomekeka kubuncinane. Kwaye malunga neDebian, mhlawumbi i-Upstart iya kuba lula ukuyiphumeza kuba Ubuntu sele inabo kwaye nenani leebhugi ezinokuthi zincitshiswe; kwaye ukuba kuyimfuneko ungasoloko uqhuba i-systemd njengoko inqaku libonisa.

    1.    isanga sitsho

      Into kukuba into oyifunayo "ayikho "ukuxhomekeka" ngolo hlobo. Into endiyifunayo kukusebenzisa ezinye iimpawu ezithi, ngobabalo okanye ilishwa. kuphela i-systemd ibonelela kwaye iqala, ngenxa yezizathu zoyilo, kunzima kuyo ukuphumeza into efanayo ngendlela efanayo (umzekelo, sele ine-socket activation, kodwa ilinganiselwe kakhulu kwaye ayivumeli ukuqaliswa okuhambelanayo kweenkqubo, okumele ukuba ibe sisizathu sokuba ziziseko) ngoko ayikuko ukuba uxhomekeke, kukuba ufuna ukwenza eyona nxalenye yesoftware inokwenzeka kwaye njenganamhlanje azikho ezinye iindlela okanye iiprojekthi ezibonelela kwaloo nto inye. umzekelo gnome. I-gnome ayixhomekekanga ngokusemthethweni kwi-logind. i-gnome ixhomekeke kujongano oluthile lwe-dbus olubonelelwa kuphela ngokungena okanye ikiti yeconsole. i-consolekit iphelelwe lixesha kwaye ilahliwe kwaye i-loggind ixhomekeke kwi-systemd. kodwa akukho mntu unqanda iqela lesithathu ekuphuhliseni i-daemon okanye indlela yokubonelela ngojongano olufanayo lwe-kdbus ukusebenzisa i-gnome, le yindlela i-openBSD ene-nome 3.10 nangona kungekho bsd ine-dbus okanye i-systemd.

  10.   alex sitsho

    Ngokwam, emva kokutshintsha ukusuka kwiArch ukuya kwi-systemd, ndiye ndaqaphela ukuphucuka okukhulu kwisantya sokuqalisa

  11.   tesla sitsho

    Ndicinga ukuba ezi ngxoxo zezabaphuhlisi. Inyaniso kukuba andiyazi ukuba yintoni umahluko phakathi komnye kunye nomnye, kwaye ndicinga ukuba kubasebenzisi abaqhelekileyo akubalulekanga kakhulu. Ndidibene ne-systemd eManjaro kwaye andifumani phuculo ekusebenzeni xa kuthelekiswa neDebian okanye ukusebenza kakubi. Ngoko ke andiyazi...

    Noko ke, masithembe ukuba okona kulungileyo kwenziwa, andazi ukuba yeyiphi inketho leyo. Hayi hayi

    Nibuliso!

  12.   peterczech sitsho

    Ndivumelana ne-systemd okoko ukugcina i-kfreebsd, engasetyenziswanga nangabasebenzisi be-Debian, ibonakala ingekho ngqiqweni kum.

    1.    peterczech sitsho

      Kwakhona ngenxa yendlela ekulula ngayo ukusebenzisa inkqubo kunye nophuculo oluqhelekileyo oluzisayo :D.

    2.    iipandev92 sitsho

      Ngaloo ndlela yokucinga, akukho nkampani kufuneka ixhase iLinux xD

  13.   geronimo sitsho

    Andisebenzisi i-Debian kodwa ndiyathemba ukuba ukhetha i-systemd, ngaphezu kwayo nantoni na ngenxa yokulula ukuyisebenzisa "ukongeza ekwazini ngandlela-thile" ^^

  14.   Ukudlala sitsho

    Yintoni ekhokelele u-Ubuntu ukuba akhethe i-Upstart kwaye angathathi inyathelo nge-systemd, leyo ngokoluvo lwabaninzi ithathwa njengengcono? Ndiyabulisa.

    1.    -nobunzima sitsho

      I-Upstart yitekhnoloji ye-canonical (bathanda ukusebenzisa isoftware yabo) kunye ne-predates eyenziwe nge-4 iminyaka ndicinga.

  15.   iatlas7jean sitsho

    Systemd ukufa xD

  16.   IGallux sitsho

    I-Debian inezigxininiso ezimbini ezibalulekileyo: uzinzo kunye nendalo yonke, enyanisweni, ukusuka apho kuza inkxaso yayo kwezona zakhiwo zihlukeneyo kunye neeprojekthi ze-hurd kunye ne-freebsd. Uluvo lwam lwelokuba bafanele bahlehlise isigqibo kuguqulelo oluzinzileyo olulandelayo kwaye bagxile kwi-OpenRC, enokuthi iphephe ezi ngxoxo.

  17.   Indlela sitsho

    Ukusuka kwi-arch yam ndithi, i-systemd ibonakala iyeyona ndlela inamandla, nangona kunjalo, ngezixhobo abafanele ukuba nazo, kutheni bengayithathi ngqalelo yokuyinyanzela.

    "Ukuba ngumlandeli we-OpenRc akunakuchazwa, kuyazisola"

  18.   khourt sitsho

    [+ 10]
    Ndivotela le ngxelo elandelayo!!!
    Andingomsebenzisi owazi kakuhle amagama asetyenzisiweyo, kodwa nakubantu abanolwazi oluncinci kunomdla kwaye kubalulekile ukubona ukuba ingxoxo enjengale ikhula njani.

    Yintoni eya kuqala, idemokhrasi, umdla wenkampani ethile, okanye inyani yokukhetha leyo okwangoku ilungiselelwe ngcono kwiinjongo zikaDebian?

  19.   IBlueSkull sitsho

    Ukusuka kwinto endiye ndakwazi ukuyifunda, kwaye njengomdwebi wenkqubo, ndingatsho ukuba i-systemd ihambele phambili kakhulu kunokuqala.

    Ilawula ukuqaliswa kweenkonzo kuphela xa zifuneka (ukunciphisa ixesha lokulayishwa kwenkqubo), iphinda izame ukutshintshela izikripthi ngeenkcazelo (goodbye ukuya kocothayo lwe .sh) kwaye kukho kwakhona inzuzo yamaqela, apho umlawuli inolawulo olupheleleyo kuyo yonke into eqalwayo.

    Ukuba kukho into endiyithiyile kakhulu, ixuba ipolitiki kunye neteknoloji ..., ukuba kukho izizathu zobuchwepheshe bokusebenzisa into ethile, iingxoxo akufanele zivunyelwe ukuba ziqhutywe yimicimbi yezorhwebo okanye ukuzingca okulula, kuphela izizathu kufuneka ziphumelele. .ubuchule, kwaye kule systemd ingaphambili kakhulu kunesiqalo ngokoluvo lwam.

  20.   thorzan sitsho

    Andiqondi kakhulu kwezi zihloko eziphambili, kodwa ingxoxo inika umdla kwaye ixelwe kakuhle kakhulu. Sifuna ngaphezulu!

  21.   iyeva sitsho

    Ukuba undibuza: Systemd. I-Arch indibonisile ukuba kufanelekile ukuyisebenzisa kwaye ikhawuleza kakhulu kunoogxa bayo.

  22.   Umnyama_bhabha sitsho

    Kulungile... ukukhawulela kwisantya (njengoko ndingenalo ulwazi oluninzi lobugcisa)
    Ubuntu bufanele ukusebenzisa i-Upstart right? Ukuqalisa kuka-Ubuntu kwakuhlala kucotha kakhulu, kwakundikhumbuza iiWindows ngamanye amaxesha, nediski phakathi kunye nekhompyuter enesiqingatha ubudala, bobabini bathatha ixesha elaneleyo ukuba ndiqale ndiyokuziphakela isoda ndibuye... kwelinye icala, ukusebenzisa iArchlinux nge Systemd ikhompyuter iqala ngokukhawuleza kunayo nayiphi na into endiyibonileyo kubomi bam bonke xD (andiyibaxi), ngalo lonke ixesha umntu efuna ukuyisebenzisa akalindelanga ukuba iqale ngokukhawuleza. hahahaha

  23.   isanga sitsho

    i kdebus ayiphumi kwi kde, yiprojekthi esuka kwisiseko se freedesktop enjongo yayo ikukudibanisa id-bus kwikernel ukusombulula iintsilelo ezithile enazo linux kumgangatho wolawulo lwenkqubo. Into esiyifunayo kukwenza iziqwenga ezininzi zesoftware eyilelwe ukusebenza kunye ukuphucula ukhuseleko kunye nebhokisi yesanti.

    1.    mzantsiweb sitsho

      sele ilungisiwe.