Ngonyaka odlule uJoey Hess ehlongozwayo ukuthi ukukhishwa okuzinzile okulandelayo kwe-Debian kuza ne-Xfce njenge-desktop ezenzakalelayo. Namuhla…kwakunguJoey uqobo oguqula ushintsho. Ngishiya umbhalo walesi sibopho ku-taskel.
Ngokuya ngemiphumela yokuqala evela ku-
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/JessieEminye idatha oyifunayo ayikatholakali, kodwa ngalesi sikhathi Nginesiqiniseko esingu-80% leyo gnome iyaqhubeka kule nqubo. Lokhu kusekelwe ikakhulukazi ekufinyeleleni nasezingeni elithile lokuhlanganiswa ne-systemd.
Ukutholakala: IGnome neMate zihola ngemajini enkulu. Amanye ama-desktops athuthukise ukufinyeleleka kwabo kokutholakala ku-Debian, ngokwengxenye kuqhutshwa yile nqubo, kepha basadinga umsebenzi obalulekile ophezulu.
Ukuhlanganiswa ne-systemd / njll: I-Xfce, Mate, njll zinamathele ukuzama ukuthola izinguquko eziqhubekayo kule ndawo. Kuzoba nesikhathi sokuthemba ukuthi sizikhiphe lezi zinkinga ngesikhathi sokumiswa lapho isitaki sezobuchwepheshe siyeke ukuguquka sisuka ngezansi, ngakho-ke akusona isivimbeli esiphelele kulawo ma-desktops, kepha siya esimweni samanje, IGnome iyahola.
Ukuphela kwento engicabanga ukuthi ingalinganisa lokhu okungenhla ngosayizi, uma kunesifiso esinamandla esivela kwaDebian sokubona iCD eyodwa enedeskithophu ezimele. Noma kunjalo, iqembu elibukhoma likaDebian ungakhathali ukufaka kwi-CD yendabuko; futhi yize iqembu le-CD le-Debian lingazange lenze isitatimende, umbono wami njengelungu yilokho akuseyona into esikhathazayo kwanele ukuyenza ivimba kanzima kudeskithophu ngokuzenzakalela.
Ezinye izinto ezingaphatheki kahle ezithinte lesi sinqumo kancane zifaka:
- Ithimba leGnome kuDebian lenze icala elinothando lokuthi iGnome ibe nomphakathi omkhulu, njll.
- IGnome 3 ibonakala ithuthuke kakhulu selokhu kukhishwe i-Debian yokugcina.
- Ithimba le-XFCE ku-Debian liyathandana ngokuthi ngabe kufanele kube yideskithophu ezenzakalelayo. Akubonwanga iminikelo eminingi engeziwe ngesikhathi bekuzenzakalela ekuhloleni izinyanga eziyi-9 ezedlule futhi kuseyiqembu elincane.
- Ithimba le-Mate Debian lenza icala elihle kakhulu kuMate, kepha ngakolunye uhlangothi lintsha ku-Debian, ngaphandle kokuhlolwa okuningi noma nabasebenzisi abaningi. Ngenkathi ngasikhathi sinye i-gnome 2.0. Ukubuyela emuva kwe-Debian kuyangikhathaza, yize kuyindawo enhle yedeskithophu.
- I-Tasksel ikuvumela ukuthi ukhethe amanye ama-desktops ohlwini, ngakho-ke lokhu kungokuzenzakalelayo, okungashintshwa kalula.
Ngisendleleni, I-GNOME 3.14 yeza egatsheni le-sid.
Ngiyayithanda i-XFCE kepha kuyiqiniso ukuthi ngenyanga edlule izinkinga nge-systemd ziyishiya ko koDebian futhi ngiyaqonda ukuthi ibuyela eGnome yize ngingayithandi kakhulu
Lokho okufanayo. Noma, kimi, i-XFCE iqina lapho isebenzisa i-Iceweasel ne-Chrome / Chromium ngasikhathi sinye.
IXfce ilahliwe kancane, leyo inkinga. Unyaka nohhafu ngemuva kwesheduli abayinikezile ngenguqulo entsha engu-4.12 futhi bengenanhloso yokuthuthela ku-GTK3 okwamanje. Futhi ideskithophu eyisisekelo, i-Xarchiver nezinye ezingeyona ingxenye ye-kernel zimbi kakhulu.
Ngakolunye uhlangothi kuyangiphatha kabi ukubona ukuthi iGnome inqobile. Ngenxa yokukhathala, ukuntuleka kwezimbangi, noma yini, kepha akulungiseki neze lokho okucelwe abasebenzisi bayo (namanje ayinaso isihenqo sesikrini, kusalokhu kungakwazi ukuguqula iphaneli, kusalokhu kungabuyiseli umsebenzi wokwahlukanisa kuNautilus, nakho konke okunye, yebo , angazi ukuthi yimaphi amamephu, yini okufanele ngiyazi ukuthi yini) ekugcineni abasebenzisi bayozivumelanisa nayo. Ngizamile iCinnamon kuJessie kungekudala futhi yideskithophu enhle, kepha isencike kuzinhlelo zokusebenza zeGnome futhi ayihlanganisi kulezo zimo, okuyihlazo. Noma kunjalo mhlawumbe ngizokufaka lapho uJessie azinzile.
Noma kunjalo, bengizobheja uMate, akunakuba ukuthi iGnome yenza lokho ekufunayo futhi ekugcineni isijeziso sokwehlisa abasebenzisi ngesesikhashana nje, 🙁.
Ingabe kumina nje noma omunye umuntu uqaphele ukuthi awuyikhulumi i-KDE kuyo yonke ingxabano yakho? Angiqondi ukuthi yini inkinga nge-KDE ne-Debian iqiniso.
ngokuya ngesixhumanisi uJoey asibuka, i-KDE ibhekene nokuphazamiseka uma kukhulunywa ngokutholakala
Ngiyacela .. ungitshele ukuthi lithini iphuzu ngoba angiqondi. Noma kunjalo, bazokwazi ...
@mzokoloko https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/Jessie
ukufinyeleleka :: usezingeni
Ingabe ideskithophu iyatholakala kubantu abangaboni nalabo abakhubazekile? Sicela ulinganise izinga lokutholakala kwedeskithophu ngayinye kusuka ku -1 kuye ku- +1.
Bika kusuka kuthimba lokungeneka:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2014/09/msg00008.html
Ngokuyinhloko, i-MATE yideskithophu efinyeleleka kakhulu. IGnome ilethe ukuhlehliswa kokufinyeleleka okuthile kuqhathaniswa nalokho. I-lxde ne-Xfce azitholakali kalula ngoba izinto ezifana nephaneli yazo azikho. isinamoni inezinkinga zokufinyeleleka okuqinile (imenyu yokuqala, iphaneli). I-KDE ayitholakali.
Kunezimbungulu ezine-Xfce ezenza ukuthi zingafinyeleleki ngokuphelele okwamanje, kufanele zikwazi ukulungiswa kalula: 760740, 760777, 760778
@diazepan Lokho akungitsheli lutho. Isici sokufinyeleleka sisungulwa yiThimba Le-Debian ngale njongo, kepha kungadingeka ukubona ukuthi yimiphi imihlahlandlela abayicabangayo lapho bekhipha inqubo yabo, ngoba bangaba abasebenzisi be-GNOME abangayithandi i-KDE, uyaqonda iphuzu lami?
Manje, ngithanda ukwazi umbono wabanye ngokuphathelene nokuthile, yini eyenza i-GNOME ifinyeleleke kalula kune-KDE? ngoba ngokombono wami kuphambene.
Hlela ===================
Ngokuyinhloko ngokutholakala kokulandelayo kwenzeka, ngokusho komyalezo ovela kuJoey Hess ohlwini lwamakheli:
Okwamanje kufanele ngisho ukuthi angikaze ngisebenze naye awu 11y, nokuncane kakhulu nge-KDE, ngakho-ke angazi ukuthi isebenza kanjani kule Desktop Imvelo yabantu abanokubona okuphansi noma okunye ukukhubazeka.
Noma kunjalo, futhi ubheka phezulu kuphela, kunamathuluzi amaningana ale njongo: IKmouth, Jovie, Kmag, KMouseTool, KChartSelect.. ngakho-ke ngibuyela endaweni yami yokuqala .. Kungani kungenjalo i-KDE?
Ngaphezu kwalokho, ngibuyisa izinyathelo zami, ngilokhu ngifunda umucu okukhulunywa ngawo futhi kukhona okuthakazelisayo:
I-WTF? Ngabe i-XFCE ihlangana kanjani ne-OpenBox. Kuphakathi kokuthi uJoey Hess wenze iphutha, noma akahlolisanga kahle izindawo zedeskithophu anazo njengenye indlela.
Njengoba ngisebenzisa i-XFCE, ukuguquguquka kwe-GTK3 kutholakala nge-Murrina, futhi kubonakala kimi ukuthi kuyisixazululo sesikhashana sokungahambelani nohlaka olushiwo. Ngaphezu kwalokho, into yokufinyeleleka itholakala ngokungenisa izici ze-GNOME 3.14 futhi ngaleyo ndlela uzisindise inkinga yokufinyeleleka (ngisho no-Ubuntu uyakwenza ngobumbano).
I-KDE nje ayibalulekile kwi-popcon yayo ... zonke lezi zinyanga i-GNOME ne-Xfce bezikuthayi wezobuchwepheshe lapho besetshenziswe khona kakhulu. Vele, kubonakala sengathi bakunika ukubaluleka kokugcinwa kwayo. Eminyakeni embalwa eyedlule u-debian wayehlala ebonakala ngokuba ne-KDE endala, ecishe yashiywa, namuhla akunjalo, yi-DE lapho ngibhala khona, futhi akukubi neze.
Ngibona sengathi cishe yimpi yokulwisana ne-kde, lelo ikusasa ngempela ...
I-Qt ikusasa, yebo, kepha hhayi ezintweni engizithandayo ze-KDE, ngakho-ke ngingenza ukubheja kwesikhathi esimaphakathi ku-lxqt
Yonke imininingwane oyidingayo u-Elav:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/tasksel/tasksel.git/commit/?id=dce99f5f8d84e4c885e6beb4cc1bb5bb1d9ee6d7
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/Jessie
Kubukeka sengathi uMATE uzoba esikhundleni se-GNOME 3 kumlandeli kaDebian Jessie, yize kulokhu kunqoba i-GNOME 3.
Lokho ngeke kwenzeke @ Eliotime3000 ngoba ukuthuthukiswa kweMate akusekelwa ngokwanele.UDebian uzoqhubeka nokusebenzisa i-DE exhaswa kahle kakhulu ngoba bafuna ukuzinza kwe-distro futhi iqembu elikhulu kuphela elingakunikeza lona. Kuncane kakhulu. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, iGnome yavela kakhulu futhi iqembu layo likhulu.
Lokho okufanayo. Ake sibheke ukuthi ngiyahlupha yini ukuzama i-GNOME 3.14 ngokushesha nje lapho ngithola isikhathi sokufaka i-Antergos kwi-PC yomngane (i-GNOME 3.8 ibukeka njenge-fiasco kimi).
UNkulunkulu Asindise iGnome.
Ku-betess ye-jessie betas, i-xfce ideskithophu ezenzakalelayo, ngakuqonda ukuthi lapho befika ku-beta yesifaki, akusekho ukuguqulwa okwenziwe, kepha ukulungiswa kwamaphutha.
Ngangingeke ngijabule ikakhulukazi ukuthi ideskithophu ezenzakalelayo ye-debian ibulewe, i-xfce ayingikholisi neze futhi inikeze amaphutha amaningi angenangqondo ngokufakwa kwamayunithi nezinto ezinjalo
Ngisanda kufaka nge-beta ye-jessi, i-netinst ibe ngqo, futhi ngimangele kakhulu ukuthi lapho kufanele ukhethe indawo yedeskithophu ikunikeza ongakhetha kukho i-gnome, kde, xfce, ne-mate, angazi yazi uma kuyinto entsha, kimi yebo, ngigcine ukuyisebenzisa uma ukhetha ukufakwa okuzenzakalelayo (engingakwenzi, ngokuba ngu "aptitude -R" ukufakwa kwami kuhlanzekile njenganoma imuphi umcibisheli) ngafaka i-gnome , kubonakala sengathi manje ungakhetha.
Ukubingelela
I-GNOME iyaqhubeka nokuhola umsebenzi wokufinyeleleka kumadeskithophu wamahhala. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, bagcina i-AT-SPI, okuyiprothokholi esebenza njengebhuloho phakathi kwezicelo zomsebenzisi nezinhlelo zokufinyeleleka. I-GTK + isebenzisa le protocol futhi iningi lezinhlelo zokusebenza ze-GNOME ziyafinyeleleka. Futhi, ithimba lokufinyeleleka le-GNOME lisize ozakwabo be-Qt / KDE ukusekela ukufinyeleleka, okwakungakabikho ngaleso sikhathi ku-GNU / Linux. I-Qt isebenzisa i-AT-SPI ukunikela ukufinyeleleka ku-GNU / Linux. Yize i-Qt ifinyeleleka, kusenezinhlelo eziningi ze-KDE ezingekho. Ekugcineni, ideskithophu ye-GNOME ingasetshenziswa ngaphandle kwenkinga ngaphandle kwegundane, kusetshenziswa kuphela ikhibhodi.
I-Orca, isifundi sesikrini esigcinwa yi-GNOME, uhlelo lokusebenza lokutholakala oludume kakhulu. Ngaphezu kwalokho, ithimba lokufinyelela le-GNOME lisebenza ekwenzeni imibhalo ye-PDF ifinyeleleke, ingeza ukusekelwa kokufinyeleleka ku-poppler (injini ye-PDF esetshenziswa ngu-Evince no-Okular), nokusebenzisa la makhono amasha ku-Evince.
Lokho kufanele kuvunyelwe, ngoba ngaphandle kwe-GNOME (futhi okubi nakakhulu, ngaphandle kwe-GTK +), bekungeke kube khona ukutholakala. Lokho kuzolimaza thina sonke esilahlile ngemuva kokuphuma kwenguqulo 3.
I-KDE ingaba enye indlela enhle kakhulu, kepha uyabona, bathi labo abaziyo ukuthi ayitholakali ngokwanele, angazi, kepha engingakusho njengomsebenzisi wokugcina ukuthi lokhu kukhetha (kwe-GNOME's) akunandaba nami .. Ingqikithi, letha imvelo elethwa yilowo nalowo ingakhetha futhi ifake leyo ayifunayo.
Uma ususa inketho ye- "Alternate Desktop Enviroments" ku-Debian, ngizoyishiya lapho.
Ngokuzenzakalelayo bazobeka noma yini abayifunayo, kepha ku-distro efana ne-Debian ehloselwe abangasiqalo, wonke umuntu ufaka akufunayo. Into yokuqala engiyenze ku-Debian Testing ukukhipha i-Xfce bese ngifaka i-KDE, ehamba kahle nge-systemd, yinhle, inamandla futhi ikude nezinganekwane, idla inqama encane neprosesa kuneGnome noma iCinnamon.
futhi ngithi, kwenza mehluko muni? I-debian ihlala yenza iso elithile kudeskithophu ngayinye eliyisekelayo futhi ekugcineni abasebenzisi balande iso ngedeskithophu abayithandayo.
futhi nomphakathi ungumbungazi futhi, wenza izintaba ngohlamvu lwesihlabathi. khona-ke iningi lalabo abasebenzisa i-debian bafaka isisekelo sohlelo futhi bakhe ukusuka lapho.
Ngokuqondene nombono wami, angithandi ukuthi i-gnome3 empeleni iyona ekhethiwe. Ngisebenzisa i-xfce futhi ngiyayithanda kepha ngiyavuma ukuthi iyafana impela ngenxa yokushoda kwabasebenzi. Ngangikhetha umlingani, empeleni.
Ake sibheke ukuthi nge-debian 9, sesivele sine-lxde-qt, okuyideskithophu enekhono eliningi nekusasa.
Yebo, ngokombono wami, angazi ukuthi kungani bekhetha i-gnome, iso lihle kakhulu i-DE, kepha njengamanje liyabuyekezwa ngenxa yalo, angazi kodwa empeleni ukukhishwa okuzinzile kwenele engingakutholi ngeqiniso, kunalokho ngibona kungazinzile ukungena egatsheni elizinzile, iphuzu lalo kungaba ngcono ukuvivinya noma ukubheka eceleni.
I-Xfce inamaphuzu amaningi aqinile kepha ngasikhathi sinye inephuzu eliphansi kakhulu, ukuthi ayivuselelwa kaningi ngangokunokwenzeka, yona-ke, yenza izinqumo, yimuphi umtapo wolwazi ongawusebenzisa ukuze ube ngama-desktops amanje i-LXDE ethathe isinqumo sayo futhi esendleleni wenze kahle. Ngenxa yokuthi i-XFCE ithatha isikhathi esiningi futhi kufanele bagxile kuyo, ngingumsebenzisi ojabulayo weXFCE, kepha leso sihloko semitapo yolwazi singenze ngacabanga, uma ngibona njengenye indlela yokukhanyiselwa njengenketho enhle yokuhlola ukuthi Ngilingana manje ngijabule eXFCE.
Jabulela!.
Ngiyavumelana nalokho. I-KDE yindawo enhle yedeskithophu, kepha ngiyithola isinda ngandlela thile (yize ngibonile ukuthi ilula kuneWindows Aero ne-Aqua evela ku-OSX). Kodwa-ke, ngibe nenkinga eyodwa noma enye lapho ngisebenzisa i-GIMP nalapho ngishintsha izingqikithi ezingenze ngayeka ukuqhubeka nokuyisebenzisa ku-Debian.
Angiqondi ukuthi kungani bengacabangi nge-kde
futhi isikhathi eside kube ideskithophu yesimanje ezinzile kakhulu
futhi i-gnome ayinayo inzuzo yesisindo ku-iso
Kubukeka njengesinqumo esihle kakhulu kimi .. Khumbula ukuthi iGnome kusuka kunguqulo 3.8 kuya phambili yazi enye into .. Kuyindawo enhle kakhulu futhi yindawo ekhiqiza kakhulu ekhona eLinux. Futhi khumbula ukuthi i-XFCE "imisiwe" esikhathini esedlule, ukuthuthela ku-GTK3 akuphelele futhi inguqulo 4.12 iyazi ukuthi ifika nini ... Futhi kulabo abangayithandi iGnome, bangahlala bekhetha ukufaka enye indawo.
Nginethezekile nge-XFCE, noma yini engathandeki ukuthi ayizi nezinqamuleli zekhibhodi ezivamile (njenge-skrini, ukhiye weSuper wokuvula imenyu yohlelo lokusebenza lweWindows).
ngakho-ke ngemuva kweminyaka eminingi kangaka ... i-KDE iwina ukusebenzisana kwayo. Vumela konke kunamathisele.
Ngendlela okulula ngayo ukusetha i-Crunchbang… .ay.
IDebian Stable + Openbox, yini engonakala?
Sula i-conky kusuka emiyalweni yokusebenza futhi ungabi nawo nomqondo omncane wokuthi uzisebenzisa kanjani izinqamuleli zekhibhodi ye-Openbox? : v
Noma yini abayishoyo, ngingathanda ukuthi kube neMate njengedeskithophu ezenzakalelayo, lol, kuhle kakhulu futhi kuseseyideskithophu yendawo yonke.
I-Debian izothakazelisa nge-gnome 3.12 noma kunjalo, ngoba i-3.4 ibingakulingani kahle lokho i-gnome ebifuna ukusivezela khona, ngaphandle kwale nguqulo 3.4 inenkinga nge-tracker-miner-fs package echaza ukuthi kungani ingadli lutho i-cpu nengxenye yenqama ngenhlanhla kusuka ku-3.6 kuye phambili okuyilungisile, ngakolunye uhlangothi bengisebenzisa yonke i-gnome 3 kuze kube ngu-3.12 futhi ngokwengxenye 3.14 ngingasho ukuthi kusuka ku-3.8 kuye phambili iziphatha kahle kakhulu, okuxoxiswene ngakho, kuhle futhi kuyashesha ukunika amandla, ngakho-ke kuyisinqumo esihle ukuthi i-debian ibuyele ku-gnome, kulabo abagxeka ngaphandle kokuzama izinhlobo ezahlukahlukene ze-gnome 3, yeka ihlazo kulabo bantu Abaphila kudala , ngoba njengoba ngigcizelela enguqulweni ngayinye entsha bathuthukisa yonke imininingwane.
Lokho okufanayo. I-GNOME 3.8 iyamanzi kakhulu futhi iqiniso ukuthi, ngokungafani nalokhu ababefuna ukukukhombisa ku-GNOME 3.4, manje ungasho ukuthi i-GNOME 3 yenziwe kahle.
Mayelana ne-GNOME Shell Classic, ngabe lokhu kulungiselelwa kuzokhethwa ku-RHEL / CentOS kuphela? Ngoba sengivele ngayijwayela i-GNOME 2.
Ukucushwa akukhetheli uma kungenangaki ama-distros abeke igobolondo lakudala noma enentshisekelo yokwenza lokho, icala linika amandla ama-plugins athile weShell, ukuze likunikeze umphumela ofanayo kuleli cala kukhona ama-plugins ayi-5 ukuze igobolondo le-gnome ithatha uhlobo lweseshini yakudala ye-gnome, ilokhu okulandelayo: -places-menu, gnome -shell-extension-window-list, kungaba lezo futhi akukho okunye okungashiywa ukulungisa isandiso ngasinye ukuze sivumelane nawo wonke umuntu.
Angiyithandi i-gnome, kepha inqobo nje uma i-MATE ingasetshenziswa ku-Debian, angikhathali ukuthi ideskithophu ezenzakalelayo ye-Debian iyini. Okwamanje ngisebenzisa i-Point Linux ngokususelwa ku-Debian 7 ezinzile, ngokubhala kwe-MATE 1.4.2 futhi kuhamba ngokushesha okukhulu, konke kusebenza kahle kakhulu. 🙂
Yeka ukudumazeka, bengicabanga ukuthi bazoshintsha imvelo yabo yedeskithophu kepha basavaliwe ukuqhubeka nokusebenzisa i-GNOME ngokuzenzakalela ngaphandle kokuzama ezinye izindlela ezifana ne-KDE, i-XFCE noma uma kungezindaba zezinsizakusebenza ezinjenge-LXDE njengoba kungukusabalalisa okungukuthi imvamisa isetshenziswa kumaseva wewebhu.