I-FluxBB ne-vBulletin: Amapulatifomu Amabili Eqophelo Elikhulu

Desde hace algunas semanas implementamos algunas novedades en DesdeLinux ezihlobene SEO, izinkambu ezinjengamagama asemqoka nezinye izici abahleli okufanele bazigcwalise lapho kubhalwa i-athikili, lokhu kuyingxenye yochungechunge lwezinguquko ezenziwa yiphrojekthi yethu esizama ngayo ukwenza ngcono i-SEO yethu, isithombe sethu.

Bengilokhu ngicabanga ukuthi isithangami sethu kufanele futhi senze ushintsho oluthile, yingakho ngiza ukuzokutshela ngamapulatifomu amabili eforamu aphikisana ngokuphelele, kepha ukuthi ngalinye linamaphuzu alo amabi futhi amahle: I-FluxBB y vBulletin.

I-FluxBB

I-FluxBB iyinkundla yesikhulumi esiyisebenzisayo ezinkundleni zethu en DesdeLinux. Otros también la usan, como los foros oficiales de Arch o Xfce. Sobresale entre todas las otras opciones por su simplicidad, su minimalismo, y porque no tiene un exceso de opciones a configurar.

Es por ello que la elegimos como nuestra plataforma para los foros de DesdeLinux, en oposición a otras opciones tentadoras, como SMF o phpBB.

I-FluxBB ...

  1. Ikhanya kakhulu futhi ilayisha ngokushesha okukhulu.
  2. Ayigcini ngokweqile ngezinketho zokuxhumana nabantu, ezinjengamaphrofayili we-FB noma we-Twitter, esingenayo intshisekelo yokuyifaka esithangamini.
  3. Ukubukeka kwayo okuzenzakalelayo akukubi. Yize kukuncane kakhulu akukuhle ukubheka. Ngaphezu kwalokho, ungashintsha ingqikithi enye enezinketho eziningi kalula.
  4. Ayinayo inani elikhulu lama-plugins noma ama-mods njengamanye amapulatifomu. Kodwa-ke, okubalulekile, njenge-antiSPAM, i-CAPTCHA nezinye ezidingekayo kukhona.
  5. Kulula ngaso sonke isikhathi, ubuncane besivinini kanye nesivinini lapho kukhonjiswa imininingwane, lezi izinkinobho. Isithangami senza okudingekayo hhayi okunye. Isithangami siyisikhala sokuhlinzeka ukwesekwa nokwabelana ngemibono ngaphakathi kwezihloko ezihlanganisiwe, hhayi ukuthola umlingani noma izinto ezinjalo. Ngalesi sizathu, i-FluxBB, ngombono wami, iyona engcono kunazo zonke.

i-fluxbb ne-vbulletin

vBulletin

Le yipulatifomu ehluke ngokuphelele kuneFluxBB. Akuhloselwe ukudala isithangami esilula nesincane, kepha kunalokho okuphambene.

Kufanele uqale ngokusho lokho vBulletin Kuyisiteji sokukhokha, ngakho-ke asikwazi ukufakwa mahhala, kufanele usikhokhele. Kodwa-ke, ezinye izinkundla ezibalulekile kuwebhu (njengoBuntuForums.org neForosDelWeb.combayayisebenzisa.

Uma kuqhathaniswa namanye amapulatifomu alula -njengeFluxBB- vBulletin inokulandelayo:

  1. Inani eliningi lama-plugins noma ama-addon angangezwa.
  2. Inombolo enkulu yamatimu (akhokhelwe, amaningi awo akhethekile). Izindikimba ezikhethekile ziyasiqinisekisa ukuthi isithangami sizoba nendikimba okungekho omunye umuntu ozoba nayo.
  3. Angikaze ngibone ipulatifomu yesithangami esingcono se-SEO kunale. Uma ufuna isithangami nge-SEO enhle, i-vBulletin kungenzeka ukuthi iyindlela engcono kakhulu yama-plugins ayo nezinye izinketho (ezikhokhelwe).
  4. Akuyona i-minimalist ncamashi, njengoba ngishilo ngaphambili. Kodwa-ke, ukukhetha itimu noma ithempulethi kahle, ukusebenza kwayo kungathuthuka kakhulu.

i-fluxbb ne-vbulletin

Ngendlela, okuhle kakhulu Ukuhumusha kwe-Spanish kwe-vBulletin engikutholile kwahlanganiswa nguCarlos Arreola (umphathi wesithangami esiboniswe esithombeni esingenhla). Ubelokhu esebenza ngayo kusukela ngoSepthemba 2013. Ungalanda ukuhumusha kwe-vBulletin v5.1 noma yenguqulo 4.x. Ngemuva kwalokho, izinyathelo zokuyifaka kungaba okulandelayo:

  1. Landa ifayela bese ulivula ku-zip
  2. Kumenyu yokuphatha, zulazulela ku- Izilimi Nemisho> Umphathi Wezilimi> Umphathi Wokulanda / Ukulayisha
  3. Khetha ifayela le-vbulletin-language.xml ozolilayisha
  4. Ezinketho, khetha inketho yokwakha ulimi olusha (iSpanishi).

I-FluxBB noma i-vBulletin? I-OpenSource noma eyimfihlo?

Kuyafaneleka ukucacisa ukuthi ngoba ayikhokhelwa ngempela, akudingeki ukuthi ibe ngcono noma ibe yimbi kakhulu kunamanye amapulatifomu. Kunezithangami eziningana ezikhethekile (ku-Linux, ukuthuthukiswa kwewebhu, njll) ezisebenzisa amapulatifomu ahlukile, kungaba yiFluxBB, phpBB noma i-vBulletin. Iforamu enhle ayichazwa kangako yipulatifomu ebekwe kuyo njengokuqukethwe kwayo, umphakathi ohlangana kuleso sithangami futhi owabelana ngolwazi, uxazulula izinkinga phakathi kwamalungu awo, njll.

Ngabe sidinga ukwenziwa ngcono kwezithangami zethu? Yebo, kuzodingeka ukuthi sithuthukise imininingwane ethile, njengokungeza ukusekelwa kweTapatalk. Kuzofanele futhi sicabange nge-SEO yesithangami nokuqukethwe kwayo. Impela, sisebenzisa izinketho zalokhu kubhulogi, kepha ngabe sidinga ukushintsha ipulatifomu yezinkundla? Ngokwami ​​angicabangi, yize kunamapulatifomu amaningi aphakathi nendawo phakathi kweFluxBB ne-vBulletin, kithi, okuyisithangami esikhethekile (Ngiqonde ezobuchwepheshe, iLinux, hhayi uchungechunge lwembali noma lwe-TV), lapho ipulatifomu ilula, iba ngcono.

Ngicabanga ukuthi i-vBulletin ayifanele kithina, ngoba ikhokhiwe. Noma abanye beyisebenzisa (engingayigxeki nakancane), iFluxBB njengamanje isebenza ngqo esikudingayo: isivinini nokulula.

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  1. Ubhekele imininingwane: Miguel Ángel Gatón
  2. Inhloso yedatha: Lawula Ugaxekile, ukuphathwa kwamazwana.
  3. Ukusemthethweni: Imvume yakho
  4. Ukuxhumana kwemininingwane: Imininingwane ngeke idluliselwe kubantu besithathu ngaphandle kwesibopho esisemthethweni.
  5. Isitoreji sedatha: Idatabase ebanjwe yi-Occentus Networks (EU)
  6. Amalungelo: Nganoma yisiphi isikhathi ungakhawulela, uthole futhi ususe imininingwane yakho.

  1.   @NomzamoMbatha kusho

    Ngisebenzise eyodwa ebizwa nge-SMF. Kuhle kakhulu futhi kungalungiswa kahle kakhulu. http://www.simplemachines.org/ Ngincoma ukuthi ubheke.

    1.    umfowethu omdala kusho

      Kakade sekushiwo kule ndatshana

    2.    eliotime3000 kusho

      […]Es por ello que la elegimos como nuestra plataforma para los foros de DesdeLinux, en oposición a otras opciones tentadoras, como SMF o phpBB.[…]

      Kukhishwe esigabeni sesibili se-FluxBB subtopic yokuthunyelwe.

  2.   URafael Mardojai kusho

    Kuhle kakhulu,
    Kwisayithi lokusekela ngincamela i-Question2Answer. Ngokuphathelene nezinkundla, i-classic ibihlala i-phpBB, bengingayazi i-FluxBB futhi kimi kubonakala sengathi kungenye indlela emangalisayo yezithangami ezingasindi. I-vBulletin eningi yayihlale iyisiphakamiso esikhethekile sokwenza i- "A Lord Forum", yingakho UbuntuForums.org neForosDelWeb.com beyisebenzisa… izinkundla ezimbili ezisindayo.

    1.    KZKG ^ Gaara kusho

      Ekuqaleni besicabanga ngombuzo nempendulo, njengaleyo evela ku-Ubuntu noma i-Yahoo! woza, kepha ... besicabanga emuva ngaleso sikhathi (futhi ngisacabanga manje) ukuthi iForamu enjalo inenhlangano engcono, isakhiwo 🙂

      1.    URafael Mardojai kusho

        Hahahaha kunjalo.

  3.   Tesla kusho

    Iqiniso ukuthi njengomsebenzisi ojwayelekile wesithangami anginazikhalazo ngohlelo olusetshenzisiwe kulo.

    Ngicabanga ukuthi izizathu onqume ukusebenzisa i-FluxBB zisasebenza nanamuhla. Iforamu elayishwe ngezinketho lapho izihloko zithatha isikhathi ukulayisha azikho lula. Itimu yamanje ithi, ngokunambitha kwami, muhle kakhulu. Kulula futhi kumnandi.

    Ngikufisela okuhle!

  4.   eliotime3000 kusho

    Ukukhuluma iqiniso, ngithambekele kakhulu ezinkundleni zokuxhumana kunamanethiwekhi omphakathi, ngakho-ke ngivame ukuba yisandulela kunomsebenzisi wenethiwekhi yokuxhumana nabantu.

    Ngasohlangothini lwe-vBulletin, uhlelo oluhle lweforamu, kepha inesithende esikhulu se-Achilles, okuyizindlela zayo, ezishayisa ngokushesha lapho kuphuma isibuyekezo sokuphepha kohlelo.

    Ngasohlangothini lweFluxBB, uhlelo oluhle, yebo, kepha luncane okwenziwe ngezifiso ngokungafani ne-phpBB (kuyakhathaza kakhulu ukuphatha, ngendlela), futhi uhlelo lokulinganisela luyesabeka (i-SEO inhle kakhulu).

    Ngaso sonke isiphithiphithi esenziwa ukukhetha lezo zinhlelo zeforamu, kungcono ngincike kuDrupal ngemodyuli yayo Yezithangami Ethuthukile (ungangiboni njengomchithi, kepha lokho kungcono noma yenza isithangami sakho usebenzisa i-node.js).

    1.    URafael Mardojai kusho

      Ngingumthandi weDrupal, kepha ngingathanda (uma kuyisithangami esilula) ukusetha i-WordPress nge-bbPress. Njengoba ngazi abantu abaningi abenza amabhola ngeDrupal.

      1.    eliotime3000 kusho

        Okwenzekayo ukuthi iDrupal yabelana ngemvelo efanayo ne-GNU / Linux kernel, okuwukwenza ngokwezifiso nganoma yini oyifunayo. Inkinga yizinga lobunzima elenziwa isikhombimsebenzisi sayo sokuqhafaza (iDrupal 7 iyinhle maqondana nokuphathwa kokuqhafaza, kepha hhayi ukuvuselela umnyombo uqobo), futhi ngokujwayelekile, okunye ukusabalalisa kuzofakwa ukuzisindisa enkingeni yokuba faka futhi ulungiselele amamojula kanye / noma izingqikithi ngesandla.

        Noma kunjalo, ngiyayithanda imvelo yeDrupal, njengoba ibonakala kakhulu kuneWordPress noJoomla! (eyokugcina iyafana noma inzima kune-vBulletin), futhi amamojula ayo ahlukahluka ngokwanele ukuthi kufanele akhokhe inani lesoftware yokuphathwa kwemodyuli eshayisa amamojula ayo.

        1.    URafael Mardojai kusho

          Vele ... abantu abaningi baba nzima ngeDrupal, ngaphandle kokuthi ukuhunyushwa kweSpanishi kuyabulala (umphakathi waseSpain uyadingeka) ngakho-ke abaningi bazizwa belahlekile eDrupal. Kepha iyithuluzi elimangalisayo impela, ungenza konke ... Okuningi manje, okokugcina ngincike kuWP, ngoba ilula kakhulu futhi ingenziwa okuningi (Hhayi amabhulogi kuphela, namawebhusayithi, Izitolo ze-Virtual, Amaforamu, Inhlalo Amanethiwekhi, ama-Wikis, njll.) Sibonga ama-plug-in alula hhayi asindayo, ngaphezu kokuba ne-CEO enhle kakhulu.

          Lokhu kungikhumbuza ukuthi iDrupal inokuphathwa okuhle kwe-Virtual Tinedas (Yize lokho ngithanda i-OpenCart).

          (Ingasaphathwa eyokuthi uJoomla!, Kuyinto eyoyikisayo ... kubuhlungu ukuthi amakhasimende ami amaningana aphikelela ekusebenzeni kuleplatifomu yize iziphakamiso zami eziqhubekayo zokuthuthela eDrupal noma kwi-WordPress)

          1.    eliotime3000 kusho

            Noma kunjalo, ngifunda ukuphatha i-drush ukuze ngikwazi ukubuyekeza iDrupal ngendlela efanayo nengivuselela ngayo i-WordPress (esimweni seDrupal, kulayini owodwa).

            Uma kungenzeka, umyalo shayela phezuluIngabe ugcina izilungiselelo zangaphambilini ezenziwe ngeDrupal noma uzisuse ngasikhathi sinye? Yimuphi omunye umugqa wokuvuselela onconyelwa iDrush ukuvuselela ukufakwa kwami ​​kweDrupal ngaphandle kokubhubhisa isiza sami?

          2.    URafael Mardojai kusho

            Woza, ngabe ubuyekeza i-WordPress ngemiyalo?

            Angikabuyekezi iDrupal muva nje ... (ukufakwa kwamakhasimende ami okudala, okungasavuseleli lutho), okokugcina lapho ngivuselela iDrupal bekunamathisela amafayela wenguqulo entsha kepha ngaphandle kokufaka esikhundleni se- 'settings.php' kepha angisakhumbuli . Angizange ngibe nokufakwa okusebenzayo kweDrumlal isikhathi eside.

            Inhlanhla

          3.    eliotime3000 kusho

            Kholwa noma ungakukholwa, ngiyazi ungaphatha i-WordPress kusuka ku-terminal nge-WP-CLI, enokufana okuningana neDrush umahluko wokuthi ayisisekelo kakhulu kumakadebona.

  5.   valdo kusho

    «…… sidinga ukushintsha ipulatifomu? ... Ngokwami ​​angicabangi, yize kunezinkundla eziningi eziphakathi kweFluxBB ne-vBulletin, kithi ngoba kuyisithangami esikhethekile (ngisho ubuchwepheshe, iLinux, hhayi izimbali noma uchungechunge lweTV) okulula ukuthi ipulatifomu ibonakale kimi kangcono . »

    Lesi sigaba siveza ngokugcwele engikucabangayo, ngaphezu kokuthuthuka okusho ukuthi kungadingeka. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, akukho lutho olusikhuthaza kangaka ekufezekisweni kwalezi zinguquko eshiwo ngenhla.

  6.   umfowethu omdala kusho

    Ukusebenza esithangamini yinto ebengifuna ukuyenza isikhathi eside, futhi njalo uma ngifuna ukuhlala phansi ukuyenza, bafika nehlaya futhi kufanele ngigijime ukuze ngilixazulule.

    Ingabe isithangami sidinga ukuthuthukiswa? Okuningi, akuyona into engenziwa "lula", i-SEO iyiphuzu lokusebenza futhi itholakala kuphela ngokuhlela ingqikithi kusukela ekuqaleni, noma leyo yindlela yami yokuyibona, uma ufuna ukuyenza kahle, futhi ukuthi kufanele uhlale phansi unqume ukuthi ngubani ozokwenza ini, maqondana nalokho.

    I-Tapatalk iyindlela enhle yokumboza iqiniso lokuphendula, kepha ngicabanga ukuthi into enhle kunazo zonke kungaba, ngokuhamba kwesikhathi, ukwenza isithangami uqobo nge-interface adaptive ... lokho kunzima kakhulu ngenxa yenani lezinto eziboniswe kokuthunyelwe futhi kufanele uyifunde, Akukhona nje ukuzivumelanisa nosayizi.

    1.    eliotime3000 kusho

      Futhi akuyona inkinga ephendulayo kuphela, kepha futhi ne-captcha (i-captcha yokuhudula ikhebula lefomu lokungena ngemvume cishe akunakwenzeka ukulisebenzisa kusuka ku-Opera Mini, ngakho-ke kufanele ngiye eDolphin ukuze ngikwazi ukwedlula, futhi ukubhala amazwana kusuka kuDolphin kumane kuyi-pandemonium).

      Nge-Tapatalk, angivumelani nje (ngibulale, uma ufuna), ngoba ngenxa yokukhangisa okufakwe enguqulweni yayo yamahhala, ichitha yonke into ngecebo ledatha (nge-Opera Mini anginankinga ngokukhangisa ngaphambili).

      Ngokuqondene ne-SEO, ingathuthukiswa ngandlela thile, ngoba le nkinga ivame ukuxazululwa ngasikhathi sinye uma amathegi ebesetshenziswa ukuze kube lula ukufinyelela kuma-SEO nokuthi isihloko sihola izindawo zokuqala zosesho lweGoogle namanye amakhasi.

      Yebo, ngithanda ukwakheka kwesithangami (ikakhulukazi kumaselula), kepha imininingwane engingayithandi ukuthi izishintsha ngokuzenzakalela lapho umuntu engena (kubonakala sengathi ibuyela kungqikithi ye-FluxBB ezenzakalelayo).

      En fin, FluxBB puede ser potente, pero a su vez, es bastante endeble en cuanto a nivel de personalización ostentosas (el diseño es tan minimalista que para forear en DesdeLinux no me causa molestias en Dolphin).

  7.   Y3R4Y kusho

    Enye indlela yamahhala kungaba yi-MyBB. Iwebhusayithi yokusekela ngeSpanishi yile http://www.mybb-es.com/. Ngiyisebenzisile engqungqutheleni enginayo futhi ukuphathwa kulula.

    A ukubingelela.

  8.   rolo kusho

    Angiqondi ukuthi kungani bengakahlanganisi konke ndawonye (ibhulogi, isithangami, njll.) Ku-drupal. okungukuthi, ipulatifomu eyodwa yayo yonke into, mahhala, enokuvuselelwa okuningi nokulungiswa okuhle kakhulu

    1.    eliotime3000 kusho

      Abadali besiza bathanda i-WordPress ne-FluxBB ngoba kulula kakhulu ukubaphatha ngaleyo ndlela, bese kuthi i-WordPress interface ibelula kakhulu futhi uhlelo lwesithangami luxhunywe ku-database yebhulogi, ngakho-ke kunikeza umuzwa wokuthi bekuyi-CMS .

      Ngaphandle kwalokho, esimweni seDrupal, ukusheshisa isikhathi sokugcina esidinga (okuyinto eningi), kudinga ukuthi ama-PC ama-admins afake iDrush ukuvuselela i-kernel, futhi lokho kuvame ukuthatha isikhathi (futhi sicabanga ukuthi ama-admins njengo @elav no @KZKGgaara basebenza nge-bandwidth ephezulu engu-512 kbps).

  9.   Cristianhcd kusho

    futhi bangaki abasebenzisi abakwazi ukuphatha ngaphandle kokuthola isiyezi? ngoba ngokwazi kwami ​​i-vBulletin idla umncintiswano nama-chips kuleli qophelo [i-xenforo kungenye indlela enhle kulokhu]

    1.    eliotime3000 kusho

      Kuyafana, njengoba isikhombimsebenzisi sayo silula ukusiqonda ngaphandle kokuthi kuze kube yinguqulo 4.2 inokwakheka kwephaneli layo lokuphatha elidala kuneWindows 98 (i-phpBB iyi-pandemonium nabaphathi bayo).

  10.   msx kusho

    "I-OpenSource noma eyangasese?"
    Lesi sitatimende asilungile ngaphandle kokuthi umbuzo ubuzwe yisikhulu samahhala se-taliban / inkampani yezinkampani kunqwaba ye-taliban / hipster ethambile yamahhala efuna ukuba ngabaphathi benkampani enkulu.

    Yikuphi okuhlinzeka kahle insizakalo ofuna ukuyinikeza? IPHUZU

    1.    eliotime3000 kusho

      Okuhlangenwe nakho kwami ​​nge-vBulletin kubi ngama-plugins, ngoba ekuvuseleleni okuncane kwezokuphepha, noma iyiphi i-plugin oyifakayo (vbSEO), ishayisa phansi. Kungakho-ke ngingakucabangi njengenketho esebenzayo (ngaphezu kwalokho izindleko ziyanda ngenxa yamalayisense).

      Ngasohlangothini lwezinye izixazululo ezinjengeFluxBB, kufanele ungene kahle, kepha kuhle ngoba uma ungangeni ngokuphelele ekuphathweni kwe-SMF, phpBB, myBB noma okunye okulingana nakho, umphumela uba yinhlekelele.

      Enye indlela kungaba i-Drupal, okuthi, ngenxa yamamojula ayo ayisimangaliso, enze iwebhusayithi ethobekile ibe ingosi yewebhu ekhanyayo, enhle futhi enamandla kakhulu ngokuphepha. Okuwukuphela kokusezandleni zokuphathwa kokuvuselelwa okuyisisekelo, ngoba abaningi bangasaba ngokushesha lapho bezwa i- "drush" (isikhombimsebenzisi sokuqhafaza ku-Drupal 7 sishintshele kokungcono, kepha akusizi ngalutho ukuvuselelwa komongo owodwa njengoba kunjalo yenza i-WordPress) noma "sebenzisa iFayileZilla noma enye iklayenti le-FTP."

  11.   UZeokat kusho

    I-VBulletinh sekunesikhathi eside yayeka ukuba yinto enganconywa, kuze kube yilolu suku iXenforo ayinayo nje intengo engcono kuphela kepha inika izinjika eziyinkulungwane kuzo zonke izici.

  12.   Mauricio kusho

    Kokuhlangenwe nakho kwami ​​nge-fluxBB angikaze ngibe nezinkinga ekuguquleni okubukwayo, ngokunengqondo uma umuntu ezenza umsunguli ojabulayo wenkundla UKUTHUTHUKISWA KOKUTHILE KUFANELE UKWAZI hehe
    Mayelana nokuthi i-fluxBB iyenzeka ngezifiso noma cha, kuya ngamakhono obuchwepheshe umuntu anawo, uma umuntu efuna ukumane afake i-TEMPLATE ne-voila, kufanele asebenzise ezinye izinketho hhayi i-fluxBB.
    Mayelana nokuphathwa kwe-fluxBB, ekubeni yisithangami esinezinketho ezimbalwa, ubulindele ukuthi ube naziphi, izigidi zokulungiselela ukushintsha? Ngicabanga ukuthi "ngumbuzo" onengqondo engiwubuzayo: /
    Ngokufingqa, ukuba nesithangami awudingi ISAYENSI engaka, kodwa-ke ukuthanda okuthile kwalowo nalowo muntu kuzodlala, uma ufuna ukuba nombhedo yonke indawo i-PhpBB iyindlela enhle, ne-VBulletin, kodwa lokho njengoba ngisho ukunambitheka, cha ngoba uhlelo olungcono noma olubi kakhulu, ngingasho ukuthi uhlelo lwesigcawu olunayo i-seo enhle lungcono kunaleyo enombhedo oyinkulungwane ongayibeka, lokho okuchaza iforamu enhle futhi njengoba besho ngenhla okuqukethwe nokuqukethwe kwayo umphakathi, hhayi uma unekhalenda ... amanethiwekhi amaningi wokuxhumana nomphakathi, inkinobho yomunwe noma i-G noma inkinobho yezinyoni ... angazi ukuthi ngiyazichaza yini, empeleni uma ngabe kukhona okwaziyo ngohlelo Kulula ukwengeza izinto ku-FluxBB futhi iyi-CC ngakho-ke ngingangeza kanjani kuyo ungangeza noma yini oyifunayo ngoba ilayisense liyakuvumela, uma-ke ungenawo amakhono obuchwepheshe, leyo enye indaba

  13.   Ukusekelwa kwe-VBulletin kusho

    Kumele kuqashelwe ukuthi lokhu kuhumusha akwenziwa nguCarlos Arreola, kodwa kwenziwa ngumphakathi osekelayo ngeSpanish, esinamalungelo akhethekile avela ku-vBulletin.com