i-systemd yethula i- "su" yayo

Lennart Pottering isanda kukhishwa ngaphakathi kwe-systemd umyalo othi "machinectl Shell" osetshenziselwa ukudala amaseshini anelungelo ahlukaniswe nesikhathi sokuqala, njengomyalo wakudala we-Unix "su" Incazelo kaLennart kwaba okulandelayo:

Yebo, kube nezingxoxo ezinde ngalokhu, kepha inkinga ukuthi lokho okumele kwenziwe kumele kucace. Ngakolunye uhlangothi kulindeleke ukuthi kuvulwe iseshini entsha bese kuguqulwa amapharamitha wokuqukethwe okwenziwe (uid, gid, env, ...), ngakolunye uhlangothi kufanele kudle ifa lemibono eminingi kuseshini yokuqala (tty, cgroup, audit , ...). Njengoba lokho kuchazwe ngokukhululeka empeleni kungumxube oxakile kakhulu wamapharamitha amadala namasha. Ukugcina lokhu kulawuleka kancane sithathe isinqumo sokushintsha nje ubuncane ngokuphelele, futhi lokho akufaki i-XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, ikakhulukazi ngoba i-XDG_RUNTIME_DIR ihlanganiswe nokwenziwa kweseshini / yocwaningomabhuku futhi asizange siyiguqule. Esikhundleni salokho, simane siyisuse.

Ngamafuphi: "wakhe" umqondo ophukile. Ikunikeza uhlobo lweShell, futhi kuhle ukulisebenzisela lokho, kepha akuyona ukungena ngemvume okugcwele, futhi akufanele kuphutha ngeyodwa.

Lokhu kuvele kaningi, kepha akukho okushintshile, ngakho-ke ngiyakuvala. Ngiyakuqonda ukuthi lokhu kuyadida futhi akulindelekile, kepha lokhu kuyi-UNIX ... »

Le vidiyo ikhombisa ukusetshenziswa komyalo wegobolondo le-machinectl kuFedora Rawhide (igatsha lezentuthuko) nge-systemd 225 (ukukhishwa okuzinzile okuzayo)


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  1. Ubhekele imininingwane: Miguel Ángel Gatón
  2. Inhloso yedatha: Lawula Ugaxekile, ukuphathwa kwamazwana.
  3. Ukusemthethweni: Imvume yakho
  4. Ukuxhumana kwemininingwane: Imininingwane ngeke idluliselwe kubantu besithathu ngaphandle kwesibopho esisemthethweni.
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  1.   Edu kusho

    Kuze kube nini ukungena okuhlaselayo kweSystemD kuya enhliziyweni ye-Linux kernel?, Ngobunzima babasebenzisi abazi ukuthi uLennart Poettering, ufuna ukufaka esikhundleni se- "su" empandeni yohlelo [impande] ngokungena kwakhe ngemvume kwakhe SystemD?, Ngaleyo ndlela ufuna ukulawula bonke abasebenzisi kusuka empandeni yohlelo. Ubhuti omkhulu?.

    ISystemD empeleni iyinhlamvu yesibili encane futhi ihlanganisa izimbungulu, ngaphandle kokunikeza noma yini njengenye indlela yokuthuthukisa i-SysV init eshintshwa. Uma ungena kwikhodi yomthombo weSystemD, uzobona ukuthi akukho ukuphawula futhi akunalutho, ngiyethemba ukuthi awuwasusi la mazwana.

    1.    I-Kbut kusho

      Yini inkinga ngentuthuko entsha? Uma ingekho usizo kamuva, ngeke isetshenziswe. Kulula njengalokho. Ukube i-sysv ibilunge kangaka wonke umuntu ubezoyamukela. Ekugcineni kusetshenziswe okuhle / okunethezeka kakhulu

      1.    I-Yukiteru kusho

        Awunaphutha asimelene nentuthuko entsha, umelene ne-NIH enkulu kaLennart nethimba lakhe eli-systemd, uvuselela isondo futhi ngasikhathi sinye wephula ukuhambisana nezinhlelo zokusebenza eziningi.

    2.    fedy kusho

      Umsebenzisi weWindows okhuluma ngokulawulwa komsebenzisi nokungena okungangeneki, yini troll 😀

      1.    gqokwa kusho

        Kungukuqonda ukuphawula kwakho okucasulayo kulabo abangasebenzisi iSystemD, ukuthi ulusebenzisa kanjani ucwaningo lweFedora the Red Hat ukwethula izinhlobo zalo ezintsha, lapho uLennart Poettering unjiniyela weSystemD esebenza, ozokuqeda ukuphepha kohlelo kusuka empandeni, ethula eyakhe i-Control Login, ekugcineni iba yi-kernel-LenuX / SystemdOS yakhe, ukumaketha ezweni lamahhala, iphupho elidala likaRed Had.

      2.    yezimg kusho

        @worn, umfana osebenzisa iWindows uthi hahahahaha

      3.    UMinsaku kusho

        Lowo msebenzisi, usebenzisa okuphuma kubo futhi mhlawumbe ngaleso sikhathi uku-Win ngaphandle kwesidingo, ngaphandle kwalokhu athe kuyiqiniso elikhulu kakhulu, funa noma ngubani.

        Ikhodi yomthombo ngaphandle kwamazwana ... kubonakala kimi ukuthi abafuni ukwenza lula ukuqonda kwekhodi noma ukukhuthaza ukubamba iqhaza, ngoba lokho kuzoba njalo.

      4.    eliotime3000 kusho

        Futhi i-troll eyengeziwe nguyena obhala evela kuzinjongo ezingena kakhulu kunawo wonke zeSystemD anayo. : v

    3.    I-Notfrombrooklyn kusho

      Izinto ezimbalwa ezimbalwa. Okokuqala "su" wuhlelo oluyingxenye yomongo wohlelo lokusebenza olwaziwa kakhulu njengeLinux, kepha i- "su" ayiyona ingxenye ye-Linux kernel. Lezo zinhlelo eziyinhloko yi-GNU.

      Okwesibili. Ukushintshwa kungumongo weLinux, hhayi ngoba kukhona obekulokhu kukhona kuzobhekwa njengesiqeshana esingathintwa, njengokungathi kuyinkolo. Uma kuvela okungcono, kuzothathelwa indawo okunye.

      Yazi, angisho ukuthi i- "machinectl shell" ingcono kune- "su", ngisanda kuthola ukuthi kukhona owokuqala futhi ngithathekile impela. Ngizophenya, kepha angikabi nawo umbono wokuthi iyiphi engcono.

      1.    Ukuhlubuka kusho

        Ngokwengxenye ngivumelana nawe, kwenye indawo ngibhale okufana nalokho okushoyo. Kepha umuntu ovela kuFedora ubukeka ethambekele kancane. Ngivela komunye "wama-buntus" amaningi. Ngivela kwaPeppermint 6 futhi okungikhathazayo yindlela abenza ngayo. Ngivuna ukwenziwa kwezinto ezintsha, kepha hhayi ngentengo yomphakathi. Abantu abaningi babona ukuhlukaniswa kwe-GNU / Linux njengobuthakathaka, ngikubona njengamandla. Ukube bekungekhona ukwahlukaniswa, ngubani ongavimba umbuso omkhulu wezobuchwepheshe "owuqambe" ngokugcina ingxenye ye-GNU / Linux? Njengoba besho lapha, kubukeka njenge-hala'u ngezinwele.

      2.    yezimg kusho

        Kungamanga afana nethempeli ukuthi "umuntu ovela kuFedora uyabandlulula"

        Futhi ngami? Ngisebenzisa uFedora emasontweni ambalwa edlule, ngaphambi kokuthi ngibe seKaOS, ngisebenzise i-Archlinux isikhathi eside, ngine-server eyenziwe ngokwami ​​lapho ngisebenzisa khona iDebian 8, futhi ngiqagele ukuthi bafana ngani bonke? SEBENZISA uhlelo ...

        Futhi labo asebengazi bayazi ukuthi ngisebenzisa cishe unyaka owodwa uFuntoo, (ukuthi ngiyafuduka ngisuka eGentoo) .. kepha ngiyavumelana ne-notfrombroklin, iqiniso lokuthi sikhombisa ukuzwelana no-systemd, ingabe lokho kusenza "sicalanye"? ….

        futhi .. njengoba bazi kakhulu kungani bengakaqali imfoloko? (Noma ngabe benza i- "Argentinazo"? Qaphela, ngingu-Argentina, futhi kulabo abangaqondi ukuthi ngiqonde ukuthini engizokuchaza: ngokuyisisekelo e-Argentina kuvame kakhulu ukuthi wonke umuntu enze "abaqondisi bezobuchwepheshe" okungukuthi, wonke umuntu "uyazi ukuthi yini okumele uyenze "nokuthi" ungayenza kanjani "nokuthi" yini engcono kakhulu "kepha akekho umuntu owenzayo: v hahaha) Ngiqale ngacabanga ukuthi uFedora, u-Archlinux wayiletha njengefulegi, kwase kuba ngu-Opensuse, kwathi lapho uDebian eyamukela, wonke umuntu walahlekelwa yingqondo, Babenesikhathi esanele sokuthi "baphikisane" noma "bazwakalise ukungenami kwabo" kepha akekho owenze lutho ... ngakho-ke manje ukubambelela, noma ukulandela ifilosofi yesoftware yamahhala, imfoloko, yilokho ikhodi eyenzelwe khona, mina uqobo nginobuhlobo obuthile ne-systemd , kepha ngiyazazi izinsimbi ezi-2, ama-sysadmin akhononda ngezingodo kanambambili zezimbungulu zezimbongolo uSystemd kwesinye isikhathi anazo (noma ezinkulu ezifana namavidiyo alayishwa ama-synflag aqhuma i-Systemd), ngakolunye uhlangothi ngiyazi ama-sysadmins abonga "amasevisi" we I-Systemd eyenza izinto eziningi zibe lula yebo, kufaka phakathi ukufakwa kwamavolumu akude ... yini engikwaziyo, angisiyena i-sysadmin, ngingumfundi wezinhlelo zobunjiniyela, futhi kukhona umfana ongasile engithande i-syntax yamayunithi futhi yangivumela ukuthi ngichaze insizakalo ye-dropbox engaphansi kwe-init Angikaze ngikwenze kusebenze

      3.    BSD kusho

        Ukhathazekile ngokungena kwe-systemd empandeni yohlelo, ufuna ukuqeda ukuphepha kohlelo, futhi uhlelo luxhomeke kuphela ku- "login systemd" yakhe, ngaphandle kokunikeza imininingwane njengoba benza ngeKDBUS, ukuphatha ukufaka i-linux kernel ngabasebenzi be U-Lennart nenkampani, benza ukufakwa kabusha kwe-D-BUS ngaphakathi kwe-kernel, ngemodi evikelekile, badlulise ikhodi yomsebenzisi esikhaleni se-kernel, kepha abasebenzisi bathula ngezinkinga ne-busg ekhiqizwayo ukuvikela i-systemd leyo ephelayo ngenkululeko. Abasebenzisi beLinux maduzane bazolahla nge-mace kolunye uhlelo olungenayo i-systemd

      4.    yezimg kusho

        kungaphezu kokuqondakalayo ukubeka i-DBUS noma okunye okufana nekheneli .. noma ucabanga ukuthi "ukuphendula" kwezinhlelo ezinjengeHaiku kuvela kuphi noma bekuyini iBeOS? ... http://diegocg.blogspot.com.ar/2014/02/por-que-kdbus.html

    4.    umabhebhana kusho

      Ngishaywa yisikhundla osithatha phambi kwento ongayazi Edu .. !! Kunezinkinga ezibaluleke kakhulu okufanele zixoxwe ngazo. I-linux kernel ine-firmware eningi kakhulu yokuthi kufanele kube nje ukukhathazeka kwakho okuyisisekelo uma, njengomsebenzisi ohlakaniphile, ukwazisa ukuphepha kwalokho okwenzayo kumshini we-Gnu linux.

      Awukwazi ukwenza sengathi wazi okuningi uma ungazi ukuthi kungani izinto zenzeka .. !! Ngiphakamisa ukuthi uqale uzibhale ngaphambi kokukhipha imibono ebeka amandla akho obuhlakani ecaleni ...

      1.    eliotime3000 kusho

        Noma uthuthele ku-distro exhasiwe engeyona ye-Parabola FSF.

  2.   isikhwehlela kusho

    Into enhle i-FreeBSD ikhona kulabo abathanda i-UNIX. Kimi, kubuhlungu kakhulu, i-GNU / linux ishonile.

    1.    UNekuto kusho

      I-GNU / Systemd-Lennux

      Lokhu kuzobizwa ngokuthi i-GNU / Linux yesikhathi esizayo, iphupho elilindelwe isikhathi eside leRed Hat, iminyaka belangazelela ukuphatha i-Linux kernel, kancane kancane bayayifeza ekubuseni okuphelele kwentengiso yayo.

  3.   I-Yukiteru kusho

    Hahahahahahahahahaha lezi zindaba zenze usuku lwami 😀

    Ingabe »yakho» yephukile? Ubuwula obungakanani lobu?

    Futhi manje i-pro-systemd izothi kuyiqiniso, ukuthi i- "su" ibilokhu yephuliwe futhi i- "su-systemd" entsha ingcono izikhathi eziyi-1000 ngoba inamabha nama-sluts ashibhile 😀

    Lokhu yilokho obekulahlekile ngempela ukuba nokukhathazeka okukhulu ngokweqile mayelana ne-systemd nokuthi yenzani ku-GNU / Linux.

    Abaphathi be-Pro-systemd abayikhuthazayo ngenxa yomqondo wokuthi i-GNU / Linux ihlukaniswe kakhulu, ngizokutshela okuthile, kunezindlela ezingcono, zomphakathi, ezingenasidina nezindlela ezibekiwe zokwenza lezi zinguquko, uLennart nenkampani balandela i-ajenda engajwayelekile kusuka kuRed Hat, futhi lezi zindaba zenza izinto zicace nakakhulu, lokhu kuyINGOZI. Uma ufuna i-GNU / Linux ibe nesisekelo esifanayo ukuze kukhuliswe ukusebenzisana nokuhambisana phakathi kwama-distros, ake ngikutshele ukuthi le akuyona indlela, noma okungenani akuyona engcono kunazo zonke. Ihlazo langempela ukuthi lokhu kuyenzeka: /

    1.    fedy kusho

      Angiqondi izinsizakusebenza ezikhohlisayo, ezididayo, nezincomekayo ozisebenzisela ukuhlasela i-systemd. Ezimweni eziningi babelana ngemibono efaka amagama anezimpawu ezingezinhle ezinjengalezi: ezihlaselayo, ezifakelwe umoya, ezibekiwe, njll.
      Kepha izizathu zobuchwepheshe zijule kakhulu ngoba umongo lapho ukusetshenziswa kwawo, ukuthuthukiswa nokuphathwa kwawo kubhekwa khona kucacisiwe ngempela. Ukwenza ukusetshenziswa kwalawa magama kwenza izinto okulula ukuzisebenzisa ukuphatha abantu ngokomzwelo. Kulula lapho kukhulunywa ngenkululeko, ubulungiswa, ukubekwa kanye nokungeza izichasiso. Uma ngibheka ukuphawula kwakho kanye nokuhlukaniswa okwenziwayo emiqondweni oyiphakamisayo ukukala uhlelo, ngingasho ngaphandle kokwesaba ukuthi ngizophutha, ngenze ukuhlola okufanayo kwamanye amaphrojekthi, ukuthi nabo bazothola isilinganiso esifanayo, futhi kubi nakakhulu. Kungani? Akuyona impikiswano esangulukile, ebandayo nenengqondo, isebenzisa isikhalazo esingokomzwelo ukukholisa. Ukuhlukahluka okukhulu kunqunyelwe kokungahambisani nokwakhiwa kwesoftware noma iphrojekthi eyilawulayo, ngoba ngokwamasiko athile nemibono ethile akuyona indlela eyiyo ngoba ayaziwa.
      Lokhu kwenzeka lapha.
      Isibonelo:
      "" Wakhe "wephukile? Ubuwula obungakanani lobu? "
      Imbongi ayishongo ukuthi "eyakhe" yephukile. Kepha umqondo wokuthi "wakhe" umele.
      Lapha kwakukhona ukushiywa kolwazi okubaluleke kakhulu.
      «Abaphathi be-pro-systemd abayikhuthazayo ngenxa yomqondo wokuthi i-GNU / Linux ihlukaniswe kakhulu, ngizokutshela okuthile, kunezindlela ezingcono, zomphakathi eziningi, ezingenasidina nezindlela ezibekiwe zokwenza lezi zinguquko, uLennart nenkampani balandela kakhulu akuvamile kusuka kuRed Hat, futhi lezi zindaba zenza izinto zicace nakakhulu, lokhu kungUBUNGOZI.
      Lapha i-systemd ikhonjiswa njengepulatifomu engenayo, hhayi eyokuhlanganyela ngokwanele, kanye nokuphoqelelwa okungafanele komhlaba wonke. Okokuqala, kufanele kubhekwe igama elithi "invasive", linencazelo engemihle ngoba lifaka ukusetshenziswa kwamandla. Kepha izincazelo zokwakheka kwayo zinikezwe kaningi futhi ngokuvamile kufanelekile. Idizayini ihlanzekile ngokwanele ukuthi ihlanganiswe nohlelo noma ukuyishintsha ibe ngcono. Ukuchaza ukuthi umphakathi ongakanani noma omncane, kuzofanele sicacise kabanzi, kepha angiqondi ukuthi kungani i-systemd kufanele iphathwe ngendlela ekhetheke kangaka. Amalungu abambe iqhaza ekuthuthukiseni nasekuhlolweni makhulu ngokwanele ukuthi angabhekwa njengomphakathi. Noma ngabe bekungenjalo, kuyisoftware yamahhala. Igama elithi "ukubekwa" kaningi lingabukwa kabi, kepha hhayi kwezinye izici. Kufanele kucace lapha. Kungaba ukumiswa ngaphandle kwanoma yiluphi uhlobo lokuhlanganiswa okubi kwesifaki se-Debian, ngephrojekthi ye-Debian. Futhi kuyaziwa ukusebenza kahle nokuhlangabezana nezidingo zokufaka zabasebenzisi bohlelo nokufakwa okungekuhle uma i-openSuse ithatha isinqumo sokufaka i-kernel embi. Izingcezu eziningi zesoftware zingabekwa futhi kunezindlela ezahlukahlukene zokwenza. Kulokhu konke kwamukelwa ngabathuthukisi abanezintshisekelo ezihluke kakhulu kulezo zeRed Hat. Unabantu abavela kwaSuse, Debian, Arch Linux, Fedora, Mageia, njll. Kuyahlekisa ukudala umbono wozungu walokho.

      1.    I-Yukiteru kusho

        Yebo, zinikezwe izizathu eziningi kokunye ukungenelela hhayi okwami ​​kuphela kepha nabanye abasebenzisi, abathuthukisi nama-sysadmins esimweni se-systemd. Ukukhuluma ngakho kaninginingi ngalesi sikhathi kungenza ngibe nobuvila, ngoba noma ngabe ngaleso sikhathi benginikeze nezizathu eziphoqayo, ngethula izimbungulu ngaphandle kokuzilungisa, ukuhlolwa kokucwaninga kuma-bugreports, izinkinga zokuphepha ezizenzele zona ngokwazo ngabathuthukisi, phakathi ezinye izinto, konke okubonakala ngathi "kusuka endlebeni eyodwa kuya kolunye" kuya kubasekeli abahleliwe bengaboni. Ukuthi ukungenelela kwami ​​kube nomzwelo omkhulu? Yebo bengingahlosile ukungenelela kwezobuchwepheshe kule ndaba, ukukhuluma ngezinto zobuchwepheshe lapha kuyinkimbinkimbi ngandlela thile, ngoba leyo yi-IRC noma kungcono uhlu lokuthuthuka.

        Ngiyacacisa ukuthi yize ngicabanga ukuthi i-systemd iyi "init" enhle kakhulu (uwuqonde kahle lowo mqondo) enezici ezithile ezithakazelisa kakhulu, onjiniyela be-systemd bathathe ilayisense ne-carte blanche ukushintsha izinto eziningi ku-GNU / Linux ekugcineni lokhu " i-init »(uma kungabizwa kanjalo njengamanje) sekuyimpoqo kubo (kwakha ukuncika okuqinile entuthukweni yamanje neyesikhathi esizayo), ngoba njengoba benza uhlelo balwenza lube nzima kakhulu futhi ukuthuthukiswa kokunye okukhethwa kukho kungahle kungenzeki ngokuzayo, njengoba kwenzeka ngephrojekthi ye-eudev kaGentoo, intuthuko yayo eye yaphazanyiswa ngezikhathi ezahlukahlukene ngokwakhiwa kwesistimu / udev, futhi lapho uLennart aseveze khona ukuthi balindeleni.

        i-systemd ingaba ukukhetha okuhle kakhulu njenge-init, kepha khumbula, i-systemd manje ine-micro-server eyakhelwe ngaphakathi ye-http, amandla we-ssh wokungena ngemvume okukude, i-dns, i-mdns, i-dhcp, i-nspawn, izingodo, i-dbus, i-mount, i-inotify, i-swap handling , ukuphathwa kwe-quota, ukuhlanganiswa ne-XDG_RUNTIME, i-selinux, i-pam, ukuphathwa okuhlanganisiwe kwe-SSL, ukuphathwa okuphelele kwembewu kanye nezifinyezo, kancane kancane kuhlanganiswa ngokwengeziwe nge-btrfs, ukuphathwa kwe / dev / okungahleliwe (uma kufana nokusinika okhiye abaphephile: D, ama-conspiranoicos abaleka), ukuhlanganiswa nenqubomgomo, ukungena ngemvume, ukuphathwa kwe-kexec, futhi manje ukukhuphuka kwelungelo okuhambisana nakho konke lokho.

        Ukubingelela

      2.    xiep kusho

        Imibono, ngokuvamile, ingukutholwa okuzenzakalelayo (olunye udaba, ngokwesibonelo, umbono womphakathi). Banobuntu obuphikisayo, futhi bangaba bahle nababi. Balandela iqiniso, kepha abakwazi ukuliqinisekisa. Esikhundleni salokho, bacabanga okuphambene nakho, ukuba khona kombono "wokunye". Kujwayelekile ukuthi basebenzise amagama athi kunalokho abukeke sengathi awokuziphatha futhi "ajulile". Ukungena enkulumweni ebucayi kungadala lezi zinhlobo zemibono nemizwa. Lokhu kufanele kuqondakale kalula.

        Ukuze umuntu athole izimpikiswano zembangi "zidideka" kungaba isu elifanayo lokungavumelani nalokho. Kuyindlela efana nenye yokumehlisa isithunzi (kubonakala kimi ukuthi kunjalo, ngoba imibono kaJukiteru ayididisi)

        Umngcele phakathi kwesiphakamiso (indlela enhle yokukhuluma ngokukhohlisa) nenhloso yokukholisa, ungafiphala ngokuya ngombala wengilazi ebukwa kuyo. Kusinqumela kabusha thina lapho kusetshenziswa khona ukuhambisa. Kulokhu, i-Yukiteru ibingomunye wabantu emphakathini ophikisane kakhulu nezingcono kakhulu izinkinga nemiphumela yokusebenzisa i-systemd. Njalo kusuka ebunzimeni. Ukwahlulela kwakhe kwezobuchwepheshe kuye kwajula futhi kwenziwa ngokomongo (ngiyakumema ukuthi ulandele imicu yesithangami noma imibono kule blog ukuze ukwazi ukuyifunda futhi uzibonele). Ukweqa imibono yakhe njengokukhohlisa kuyindlela yokucekela phansi udumo lwakhe eqenjini.

        Lokho 'Poettering akusho ukuthi' okwakhe 'kwephukile. Kepha umqondo omele 'wakhe' »? Izinkulumo. Mtshele ukuthi ufunani, kepha i- 'su' iyinsiza, umyalo, osebenza ngomqondo. Ngiyacela, masingathuthuki.

        "Izincazelo zokwakhiwa kwayo zinikezwe kaningi futhi zivumelekile", kuyindlela yokuqeda lesi sihlava nokuxazulula udaba olushisayo lapho impikiswano ingakapheli. Ukumelana nalezi zincazelo "ezifanele" kusabalele emphakathini, futhi impikiswano yabo ibonakala ingapheli. Kunezizathu ezizwakalayo zokucabanga ukuthi i-systemd "" iyinto ehlaselayo, kepha "ingeyimbi" ingabonakala. Izincazelo ezivamise ukugcotshwa zethimba elihleliwe azenzi noma zikhuthaze ukuzethemba emkhakheni obanzi obucayi, abaningi abafuna ukuwuthulisa ngolimi oluhlambalazayo mayelana "nenqubekela phambili" kanye "nokuncishiswa" kokugxekwa okuyisisekelo.

        Ukungqubuzana ne-systemd kudala ukungezwani okukhulu, kubuza lezo zinto ezichaza isisekelo somqondo se-GNU-Linux. Siphila eqinisweni elinengxabano ngenxa yezintshisakalo ezingahambelani. Akuhambelani ngoba ufuna ukwenza i-systemd i-axiom. Ama-axioms ku-GNU-Linux akhona, kunjalo, kepha akukho ukuvumelana ukuthi i-systemd ikhona noma egcina iba khona.

        Ukulawula,

    2.    I-Notfrombrooklyn kusho

      Lokho akushoyo nge "his", okuxuba imingcele yomongo, kuliqiniso, kepha yingakho eyibiza ngokuthi "yephukile ngokwemvelo" iyadlulela. Lapho isungulwa bekuyisimangaliso futhi iqiniso lokuthi iyasebenza ukuthi iyaqhubeka nokusetshenziswa kuze kube manje. Yize kuyiqiniso futhi ukuthi okungcono kakhulu akutholakali / kusungulwa / kwenziwa ngaso sonke isikhathi okokuqala, lokhu kusungulwa okusha kungahle kube noma kungabi ngcono.

      Okucacayo ukuthi ukugxeka ukugxeka ngeke kufinyelele ndawo.

      Ngenxa yelukuluku, hhayi wena wedwa, Yukiteru, kepha nonke enimelene kakhulu ne-systemd, niyazi ukuthi i-systemd ishumeke kakhulu ngaphakathi kwezinhlelo zokuqalisa nokuthi kuya kuba nzima ukuyisusa, eminyakeni eyi-10 lapho uqiniseke kakhulu ukuthi izobe ihlelwe noma okuthile okungeyona i-Linux, uzoshintshela ku-bsd noma windows?

      1.    imvula kusho

        Uma ubheka ukuphawula ngakwesokudla phezulu uyabona ukuthi usebenzisa i-freebsd

      2.    UMinsaku kusho

        Ngokwami, ngiyethemba i-GNU / Hurd 😉

  4.   UDerpie kusho

    Lungisa i- «lasrgas» ibukeka imbi D:

    1.    I-Yukiteru kusho

      Futhi ungitshele 😀

    2.    engaziwa kusho

      I- "had" yimbi kakhulu.

      1.    I-Giskard kusho

        Ngize nje ukusho lokho. Amehlo ami ayesopha.
        "Kwakukhona" izingxoxo ezinde.

    3.    phumlani kusho

      Sengivele ngalungisa zombili

    4.    eliotime3000 kusho

      Kusuka esikhundleni sami njengomlandeli weLinux (hhayi fanboy, ngoba ngiyavuma ukuthi ngisasebenzisa iWindows ngenxa ye-AutoCAD, i-Adobe suite, i-CorelDraw namanye ama-macros we-Word ukuthi i-LibreOffice ne-WPS enza amabhola ukuvula kahle ngenxa yobuwula I-OOXML nezindinganiso zayo zohlobo lwePottering), iSystemD, noma ingahle ibe ngeyintsha kanjani, angiyiboni njengesixazululo esichazayo ezingeni lezimboni, ngoba iSynFlag ikhombisile ukuthi le INIT isiqalile sigcwele izimbungulu nama-glitchese abeke ebucayini ubuqotho kusuka ku-OS, ngakho-ke lapho ngiqala ukuhlola uDebian Jessie egatsheni lokuhlola, ngigcine ngikwazile ukususa iSystemD kuyo, kepha injabulo yayihlala isikhathi esifushane kakhulu ngaleso sikhathi sokuhlolwa. Ekupheleni kosuku, ngigcine ngoDebian Jessie oza neSystemD ephelezelwa yiSysVinit, ngakho-ke ayisaphuli neparadigm yejika lokufunda.

      Ngakolunye uhlangothi, izinketho ezifinyeleleka kakhulu kuzoba yiFreeBSD ne-OpenBSD, kepha kunganconywa uma izinsuku zakho zehadiwe phakathi kuka-2004 no-2008, ngoba i-BSD igxila kakhulu kunoma yini engxenyeni yesiphakeli (empeleni, iFreeBSD ne-OpenBSD ingaphezulu I-KISS kune-Arch ne-Slackware, ngakho-ke ngenkathi i-modus operandi yokufaka amanye amathuluzi ingahluka, umphumela ungafana noma ube ngcono).

      Kuze kube manje uDebian Jessie wenze umsebenzi omuhle wokugcina iSystemD isendaweni, kepha ngiyethemba ukuthi iStretch izongena esikhundleni seSystemD nge-UselessD, ngoba ngokudabukisayo, uma ufuna ukwazi okuningi kunalokho i-dmesg ekunika kona, akusebenzi njengalezi. izingodo.

  5.   I-NaM3leSS kusho

    I-GNU / SystemD-LennuX iyaqala

    Bekungeke yini kube ngcono uma le ndoda izakha i-OS yayo, iyeke ukushintsha izinto?
    Mhlawumbe izinhloso zabo neminikelo yabo mihle, kepha ngibona sengathi kukuncane ukuhlasela lokho umuntu akusebenzisayo. Yize i-GNU / Linux ikhululekile ukuyiguqula, ngibona sengathi ngezinga elithile kuyabekwa izinto eziningi zale ndoda, angisho ukuthi kubi kepha isimo asingikholisi, kancane kancane sesivele sineSelinux, iSystemD manje lokhu: /

    Mhlawumbe kufanele ngishiye i-arch bese ngishintshela kuFreeBSD 🙁

  6.   pepe kusho

    Kubukeka kuyingozi kimi ukuthi into okufanele ibe yingxenye yohlelo inohlelo lwayo lwemvume.

  7.   omunye wabo kusho

    Lolu hlobo lokunyakaza lungenza ngibone okuthile ngokucace ngokwengeziwe. Uma izinto zingaguquki, ngesaba kakhulu ukuthi ngemuva kweminyaka embalwa i-GNU / Linux izobe isifile futhi kuzosala i-systemdOS kuphela. Sebevele bafaka amatende abo ku-kernel ngemvume ka-Mister Torvalds.

    Uma eqhubeka kanjena, lo muntu uzothi i-kernel nayo iphukile futhi kufanele iguqulwe ibe yi-systemdkernel futhi ngale ndlela uMnu.Torvalds uzohlala engasebenzi nendawo yonke yeLinux njengoba sazi ukuthi kuzoba yisikhumbuzo kuphela.

  8.   i-ataulfo kusho

    futhi shit. kimi kuhlala kunguSudo su, uma bekwenza lokho, ngihlela ukushiya iLinux

  9.   Mario kusho

    Iminyaka iyahamba futhi le ndoda iyaqhubeka nokudala impikiswano. Bengicabanga ukuthi ngokulwa kuka-debian ka-2013-2014 nokuwa kwabaholi abayi-8 ngangigculisekile. I- "Su" isivele iyingozi, ingabe sidinga enye?, Njengoba ishiya i-terminal ivulekile ibe yimpande futhi okwamanje umsebenzisi ugijima ngezansi, size singathayiphi ukuphuma. "Su" Ngibeka ukuthi ikhona ngokufinyelela okukude - kusobala ukuthi iyi-Shell , hhayi izinhlelo zokusebenza zokuqhafaza-, ukuze ungasebenzisi iphasiwedi efanayo (i-sudo) ukukhuphuka amalungelo kuseshini ye-SSH. Lezo zinto umsebenzisi wedeskithophu angazazi noma angenazo. Ubuntu ikhubazekile.

    1.    engaziwa kusho

      Futhi nakhu sihamba futhi ...
      Abantu abangaqondi ukuthi imayelana nani akufanele banikeze umbono wabo, ngaphandle kwalapho bengama-troll kunjalo.
      Mina, kanye nomsebenzisi we-yukitero nabanye abaningi, sengikhathele ukuqaphela izinhlelo zezigqoko ezibomvu, ngakho-ke akusasizi ukuphinda njengopholi… .Kunesisho esidala esithi… .ukuqonda kahle… amagama ambalwa.
      Ngenkathi ngisanda kufunda inothi ukuthi ngiyajabula ... kukhona impilo edlula i-gentoo ne-openrc, emangalisayo njengoba kungabonakala.

      http://lamiradadelreplicante.com/2015/08/30/manjaro-fluxbox-0-8-13-1-dos-sistemas-de-inicio-a-elegir/

      Ngincoma labo abaphuma bethanda ukuhleleka ... funda kakhulu manene futhi iqiniso lizovela licace bha phambi kwamehlo enu.

  10.   UMiguel kusho

    Ngilungiselela ukushiya i-ArchLinux bese ngifuna i-distro ngaphandle kweSystemD noma, ukwehluleka lokho, ukuthuthela ngqo kokutholakala kwe-BSD.

    Kuyadabukisa kakhulu ukuthi lokhu kuyenzeka ngeGNU / Linux nokuthi onjiniyela abaningi bama-distros ahlukahlukene basekela imicabango kaMnu Lennart Poettering esikhundleni sokuyiphikisa.

    1.    Wena Buntu kusho

      Zama i-Antix esekwe kuDebian eza ngaphandle kweSystemD.

      😀

      1.    UMiguel kusho

        Bengicabanga uDevuan njengenye indlela esebenzayo noma iManjaro ene-OpenRC nayo engaba yindlela enhle uma kubhekwa ukuthi iqembu leManjaro lenza intuthuko enobungani ngokuxhaswa kweSystemD ne-OpenRC.

    2.    imvula kusho

      ungasebenzisa i-arch ngaphandle kwe-systemd, kepha futhi ungasebenzisa i-linux mint inguqulo ye-debian ayihleleli ukuyifaka futhi ngokusobala i-clement lefebvre (umakhi wayo) nayo ayiyithandi kakhulu.

  11.   i-krlos ephuzi kusho

    Iqiniso liwukuthi, angazi okuningi ngezinkinga njengoba ngingeyena unjiniyela noma umdidiyeli wohlelo, kepha angikwazanga ukuthi kusetshenziswe isistimu ukwephula uhlelo ngendlela elula?

  12.   I-Jolt2bolt kusho

    Ngicabanga ukuthi kunezizathu ezinhle zokuphikisana ne-systemd. HHAYI ngenxa yokuthi ingena kanganani kangakanani, yona uqobo lwayo, kepha iqiniso lokuthi ixubana ne-kernel uqobo futhi yenza kube nzima kwezinye izindlela zokusetha ukuthi kube nzima ukusebenza nayo. Ngiyakwazi engikhuluma ngakho futhi ngikusho ngokuhlangenwe nakho kwami ​​ku-archlinux. Ngiwumsebenzisi wohlelo lwe-Openrc init futhi kufanele ngisho ukuthi ayiphuli njalo, kepha kunezikhathi lapho kunezinto ezingasebenzi kahle futhi ngiyazi ukuthi kungenxa yezinguquko ezihleliwe ezidinga ukwenziwa ku-kernel ukwenza i-Linux isebenzisane kakhulu ne-systemd kodwa ngasikhathi sinye ayihambelani nenye i-init.

    Ngakho-ke ake sicabange futhi sithathe lo mbuzo olandelayo njengesibonakaliso, akusilo uhlelo lokuqalisa oluthathwa njengoluyingozi nolungenangqondo, uma kuthatha izimfanelo ezingaphezu kwalezo ezidingekayo, kepha futhi inhloso yalo ukwenza ukuhambisana kohlelo oluyinhloko (kulokhu i-linux kernel) nezinye izinhlelo ze-boot ayihambelani futhi inenkinga? Ngabe lokho akubonakali ngathi kuphambana nemigomo nemibono yeFree Software? Awucabangi ukuthi isisekelo lapho kwenziwa khona into ethile sibaluleke kakhulu (futhi lokhu ngisho ukuthi izinhloso noma izinhloso zomdali) hhayi umphumela muhle noma mubi? (Thatha ngokwesibonelo ukutholakala kwefission yenuzi nokusetshenziswa kwayo, okuncike kakhulu enqubweni oyisebenzisayo. Kungaba ukudala uhlelo lwamandla noma ibhomu lokubhujiswa okukhulu.)

    Ekuphetheni, kubonakala kimi ukuthi kunjalo. Umqondo we-systemd awubi, ngamanye amagama kuwumqondo omuhle. Kepha izinhloso zomdali wayo ziyaphikiswa impela futhi izinhloso zayo azibonakali zisondele nakancane kulokho okufanele kwenziwe yi-software yamahhala, ikakhulukazi ingxenye yelungelo lokuzikhethela ikakhulukazi, ukudlulisa ilungelo lomphakathi lokunquma ukuthi okuthile kufanele yini leyo projekthi yohlelo lokugaya ukudla, ikakhulukazi indawo yokuchitha imfucuza (hhayi ukusho lokho ebengikucabanga ngempela), ngibona ukuthi empeleni le phrojekthi isiza lowo mphakathi futhi umbono wabo ubaluleke kakhulu, njengoba kungabonakala noma cha futhi kufanele ihlaziywe kahle futhi ihlolwe kahle ngaphambi kokulahlwa. Kodwa-ke, ngibona ngombono wami ukuthi le Ndoda ayinandaba nhlobo nomphakathi othembele kuwo, kubukeka sengathi ikhathalela impumelelo yayo kuphela futhi kusobala ukuthi impumelelo yayo incike ohlelweni lwayo lokuqalisa, ngaphandle kokubiza isikhathi eside nomthelela ongaba nawo emphakathini nakwamanye amaphrojekthi.

    Ngifundile ngezizathu ezizwakalayo zokuthi kungani abaningi bephikisana nokuhleleka futhi kubonakala kunengqondo futhi kuvumelekile kimi, kepha le ndoda futhi ngiyazi, ayibanakanga nje kuphela, kodwa futhi iyenza ngezwi elinciphisayo futhi ngiyalokotha ukusho ukuqhosha nokugcwele ukuzazisa. Futhi yingakho uhlelo lwakho lokuqalisa lugcwele izimbungulu, isimilo sokuziphatha okungajwayelekile nezinye izinto eziningi ezinganakiwe ngabasebenzisi abajwayelekile abawela njengezimpukane ngokusebenza kwayo kalula kepha kugcwele izingibe nezimayini ezinjalo zilinde othile Ngibanyathele ukuqhuma.

    Kubonakala kimi ukuthi ukukhathazeka kozakwethu u-Yukitero kulungile impela futhi ngiyesaba ukuthi ngisho kufanele futhi njengoMsebenzisi onobuchule, ngingathi ngiyababelana ngakho futhi yingakho ngisebenzisa i-openrc esikhundleni, yize ukuhambisana kohlelo kuya kuba nzima ngokwengeziwe. kanye nokusetshenziswa kwe-Archlinux, engiyithandayo ngo-100%.

    I-PS: Ngangijabule ukunikela ngalesi sihloko ekuphawuleni, ukwengeza amahlaya engxoxweni, unemvume yokuhleka uma indlela yami yokuveza umbono wami ibonakala iwubuphukuphuku !: P

    1.    UMinsaku kusho

      Uqinisile futhi ngingeza ukuthi uLennart ubuso bomphakathi, kepha i-systemd ngokusobala yinto kaRed Hat futhi njengamanje ngisola ukuthi mhlawumbe i-NSA inokuthile ngayo. Angicabangi ukuthi bayalithanda iqiniso lokuthi kune-OS ethandwayo abangakwazi ukuyilawula (ngisho i-NSA).

    2.    I-Yukiteru kusho

      Okunye ukuphawula okwenza usuku lwami.

      Ngivumelana nalokho okushoyo, i-systemd kungumbono omuhle, kuze kube umzuzu oqondile lapho ufuna ukwenza izinto ezingahambisani nalokho okuzenza ngathi, okuyiyona ncamashi i-init.

      Kulabo abacabanga ukuthi ngikhuluma nje, ngithi bengisebenzisa i-systemd selokhu i-Arch Linux yenze ukufudukela kuyo, futhi ngaleso sikhathi, abaningi bazokhumbula umthelela owaba nawo, amasistimu amaningi efile noma anokusebenza okulinganiselwe ngenxa yokufuduka (umzuzu ukuthula kwe-localhost ewile ... ukuthula kuma-bits akho: D).

      Manje, engingakuthandi ku-systemd ukuthi i-NIH engakholeki ukuthi abathuthukisi bayo bahlupheke, bezama ukuvuselela isondo ngoba nje befuna futhi bafuna, ngaphambi kwalokho ngibuza umbuzo olula:

      Abakwazanga yini ukwenza labo abangcono ngqo emthonjeni wokuqala wabo futhi ngaleyo ndlela umphakathi wonke, ngisho nalabo abaphikisi be-systemd bangakujabulela ukwenza ngcono?

      Kubonakala kimi ukuthi lokhu bekuyindlela engcono kunokuphinda wenze konke futhi ukushumeka njengengxenye yendawo yonke enwebekayo e-systemd ehamba nayo, okwenza ikhodi ingabi enkulu kuphela, kepha futhi ibe yinkimbinkimbi ngokwengeziwe, kube nzima ukuyithwebula (thola leli gama kahle), futhi ngesikhumbuzi sememori esikhudlwana. Abaningi bazothi: "Kukhona inkumbulo eningi."

      Ukubingelela

  13.   izinga kusho

    Ngizosho into efanayo naleyo ebengiyisho ezinkundleni zokuxhumana: Ngicasula uSystemd, uLennart Pototo nakho konke okubandakanya. Angazi ukuthi yikuphi okubi kakhulu, noma ukusebenzisa iWindows noma ukusebenzisa le shit .. I-FreeBSD, ngiyakubona .. Ngiyakubona ..

    1.    omunye wabo kusho

      Uqinisile, kimi njengomsebenzisi ngiyabona ukuthi uDebian Jessie akahambisani noW Wheezy futhi wenza izinto engingazi ukuthi kungani kodwa unephutha ngento eyodwa, akukhona ukuthi kubi kakhulu amawindi noma lokhu, sesivele sisendleleni ngokuzayo futhi ibizwa ngokuthi i-winux 😛

      Ngiyethemba nje ukuthi uma uDevuan ngelinye ilanga ebona ukukhanya bashicilela ibheji lamahhala abakhuluma ngalo kanti amanye ama-distros athumela lokhu ngokugcwele ngoba yonke le nto ukwenza izindlebe zakho zigingqike.

      1.    eliotime3000 kusho

        Uxolo, kepha ngincamela izikhathi eziyinkulungwane ukuthi iDebian Stretch ishintshe iSystemD ifake i-UselessD ukuhambisana, ngoba uDevuan akakhombisanga intshisekelo yokusebenzisa le foloko eqinisekisa ukusebenzisana okungu-100% namanye ama-INIT afana neSysVinit.

    2.    UMinsaku kusho

      Sisenama-distros wamahhala wesistimu. Ngifunda ngokufakwa kwe-Gentoo ukufaka esikhundleni se-Arch, ngiyabona futhi ukuthi isebenzisa i-kernel ye-BSD uma ufuna, ngiyawuthanda umqondo wokuba nenye i-Linux ku-distro efanayo, ngifisa sengathi ngabe nathi sike sathola i-Hurd.

      Ngakolunye uhlangothi neLinuxMint ngizolinda ukubona ukuthi bathatha siphi isinqumo. Uma nakanjani basebenzisa i-systemd, ngizobuye ngibheke enye indlela yomndeni.

    3.    I-SynFlag kusho

      Lezi zindaba ngizibonile ngokushesha nje lapho ziphuma, angibhalanga lutho ukuze kungafanele ngibe ne-bitch, kungani iphukile? Lokho kubonwe kuphi? Esikhundleni sokulungisa lokho "okuphukile" bakha enye into ehlukile ... encike (futhi) ohlelweni ... Ngabe lokhu kuhamba ngeREDHAT kubonakala kungajwayelekile kunoma ngubani? esebenzisa uLennart njengemoto? Ngokuzimisela? Ngitshele cha ...

      1.    izinga kusho

        Uyazi ukuthi yini ehlanganisiwe? Ukuthi lapho okuthile kwenzeka ngempela ngakho konke lokhu "phezulu" iRedHat, uLennart nabanye, ngaleso sikhathi ezinye izindlela ebesivele sinazo zizoqala ukuphuma futhi ... futhi kuzoba yisiyaluyalu. Njengoba besho lapha: Akekho okhumbula iSan Pedro ize idume.

    4.    isikhwehlela kusho

      Bheka kahle lokhu: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/i-present-you-the-next-edition-of-freebsd.52956/#post-297728

      Ukwethulwa kuza mahhalaBSD. Ngakho-ke ngeke kuthathe isikhathi eside ukuthi i-rc inyamalale kusuka ku-freeBSD futhi. Futhi angazi ukuthi kungani i-systemd ijwayele ukwethula ...

  14.   UGonzalo Martinez kusho

    Kuyimpikiswano enkulu kakhulu.

    Bheka umthombo weSu, man su noma imibhalo yesigqoko esibomvu futhi lapho unokucaca ukuthi yenzani.

    Kungenzeka ukuthi enye i-distro yenza izinto eziningi kakhulu, kepha lokho kwenzeka nge-software eningi yamahhala futhi lokho akusho ukuthi i-0 ibhaliwe noma kunjalo.

    Kuyisizathu esibi, ngaphezu kwanoma yini efuna ukuvunyelwa abasebenzisi abayisisekelo abangayisebenzisi noma abangayazi kahle.

    1.    I-Zombie kusho

      Akukho mpumputhe omubi ukwedlula lowo ongafuni ukubona.
      Kufanele ube ngumsebenzisi onolwazi okumele azi ukuthi i-systemd isebenza kanjani, kufanele ufunde ikhodi futhi uyiqonde nge-100% noma usizo lwe-systemd ukuqonda ukuthi lusebenza kanjani, lwenzani futhi alwenzi ini, ukusho ukuthi umlingani unezimpikiswano ze-banal.
      Ukusho ukuthi okuthile kunqabile kufanele ube nezimpikiswano ezinhle, njll., Ukuze lokho umuntu azama ukukusho noma ukunikeza umbono kuthembeke.
      Uma singalahlekile futhi singanikeli lutho olwakhayo.

      1.    Gonzalo Martinez kusho

        Ucabanga ukuthi kuyimpikiswano enhle ukungasebenzisi "okwakhe" uma "engazi ukuthi wenzani?"

        Akazi ukuthi wenzani ongafuni ukubona ukuthi kusebenza kanjani, ngicabanga ukuthi ezweni le-software yamahhala kuyinto eyodwa esingakwazi ukukhononda ngayo, singazi ukuthi into isebenza kanjani.

        Isixazululo esisha kungaba umlingo, angixoxi ngaso noma ngigxeke i-systemd, ngigxeka impikiswano yokuthi kungani kwenziwa umyalo omusha, ngize ngibone inzuzo engaphezulu kokuthi "yayo" ngizoqhubeka nokuwusebenzisa.

      2.    Gonzalo Martinez kusho

        Ngaso sonke isikhathi angizange ngibhekise kunoma yikuphi ukuphawula, kuphela ku-athikili, uma kungenzeka.

  15.   imvula kusho

    ikati / i-proc / inguqulo
    inguqulo ye-lennax 4.1.6-1-ARCH

    1.    I-Zombie kusho

      Imvula yasekuqaleni kakhulu. 🙂

      lsb_ngicela -a
      amamojula ayatholakala.
      I-ID yomhambisi: Inzondo Ebomvu
      Incazelo: LostDebian GNU / Linux (lost os)
      Ukukhishwa: Lennax
      Codename: lennaxOS

    2.    Pedro kusho

      Imvula yasekuqaleni kakhulu. 🙂

      lsb_ngicela -a

      Awekho amamojula we-LSB atholakalayo.
      I-ID yomhambisi: Inzondo Ebomvu i-GNU / Linux.
      Incazelo: Lost Debian GNU / Linux (Red Hate / LennaxOs)
      Ukukhishwa: Inzondo Ebomvu ithatha i-GNU / Linux.
      I-Codename: i-lennaxOs 0.1.5

  16.   BSD kusho

    Ukhathazekile ngokungena kwe-systemd empandeni yohlelo, ufuna ukuqeda ukuphepha kohlelo, futhi uhlelo luxhomeke kuphela ku- "login systemd" yakhe, ngaphandle kokunikeza imininingwane njengoba benza ngeKDBUS, ukuphatha ukufaka i-linux kernel ngabasebenzi be U-Lennart nenkampani, benza ukufakwa kabusha kwe-D-BUS ngaphakathi kwe-kernel, ngemodi evikelekile, badlulise ikhodi yomsebenzisi esikhaleni se-kernel, kepha abasebenzisi bathula ngezinkinga ne-busg ekhiqizwayo ukuvikela i-systemd leyo ephelayo ngenkululeko. Abasebenzisi beLinux maduzane bazolahla nge-mace kolunye uhlelo olungenayo i-systemd

    1.    Armando kusho

      Okushoyo kuyiqiniso impela, kodwa yini engenziwa?
      Akekho noyedwa noma umholi olawula okwenzekayo, sikulokho okushiwo nabanumzane ngoba bayanikela ngokwentuthuko.
      Ngizama ukuxhasa ngokunikela kuphrojekthi yeDevuan futhi ngethemba ukuthi maduze izobona ukukhanya kosuku lokuphikisa okwenziwayo nalabo be-redhat / NASA / CIA.
      Ukholelwe ukuthi kufanele ujike ukuze ubone i-BSDS, inqobo nje uma bengacabangi ukwenza into efanayo.

      1.    BSD kusho

        Babuyisa lokhu kuluhlaza, kuya ngenhlamvu, imfoloko kunzima ukugcina ixhumeka kuLenuX / Sytemd-kernel. I-alamu yabasebenzisi abaphawula kuzinkundla ezahlukahlukene, ijwayele ukucabanga ngokulahla ithemba, njalo lapho i-systemd ingena ku-kenel nasempandeni yohlelo, okuyinto engeyinhle, yenza imisebenzi engahambelani nayo.

        UDevuan uma ufuna ukukhululeka ku-systemd, kuzofanela uzakhele "imfoloko yekheneli" engikuthola kunzima, futhi ekugcineni angakuboni ukukhanya.

        Yini ezoba yi-ArchBSD?

  17.   Richard kusho

    Ngiyabona ukuthi abanye lapha basebenzisa umqondo othi "GNU / Systemd-Lennux", ngicabanga ukuthi uma lokhu kuqhubeka kanjena, ngeke kusasala lutho nge-GNU, sebevele baqala ngeyabo ... yini ezolandela kamuva?

  18.   I-SynFlag kusho

    Ngaphathwa njengomuntu owakha uzungu lapho ngakhuluma KADE edlule mayelana ne-systemd kanye nomqondo we-REDHAT wokubusa yonke into ngokuhlasela wonke ama-distros nge-systemd nokuthi lokhu bekufuna okwengeziwe. Manje sekungokwakho, kusasa kuzoba yi-logger, ah cha, lokho kwenziwe ... kahle kuzoba yi-PAM, ah nayo eyenziwayo, ibizwa ngokuthi i-logind ... kahle inethiwekhi!, Ah cha, nalokhu futhi, kubizwa ngokuthi yi-networkd ... kahle, linda nje ukubona ukuthi i-GNU / Linux izohlelwa kanjani / i-Linux. Ukuphela kwento esele ku-GNU yi-glibc nokunye, ngoba ngisho nesikhundla sabaphathi se-FS sikushintshile.

    1.    I-Yukiteru kusho

      Qaphela uma uLennart engapheli amandla ngehlaya lakhe lango-Ephreli Fool's Day futhi ahambisane nalokho akusho ngokwenza umtapo wezincwadi wakhe we-C nokuwushumeka ku-systemd.

      Akunakuba ngu-😀

      1.    I-SynFlag kusho

        Leyo mininingwane yayingazi. U-C wakho? Angisho ukuthi i-glibc ayinaziphazamiso (ngokweqile lapho usebenzisa i-regex ku-grep), nokuthi i-libc ye-BSD ayingcono. Kepha ukusuka lapho kuya kokusha, okungeke kube yinto ebucayi, kepha okusha okwenziwe kabusha? Sekuvele kuningi. Eminyakeni embalwa uzokwenza i-kernel yakhe ngemidlalo yenhlanhla nama-sluts ..

      2.    I-Yukiteru kusho

        Yebo, uma "ihlaya elincane" lelo Lennart elihle lizinikeze ohlwini lohlelo, kepha njengoba uLennart omuhle ethanda ukugcina izwi lakhe, noma ngabe kungamahlaya amabi kakhulu, kuyethusa ukucabanga ukuthi ngelinye ilanga angagcina izwi lakhe, futhi qaphela, kungaba lapho ungalindelanga khona.

        Ngiphinde ngikhulume ngento ye-kernel kunothi elifanayo, kepha kulokhu waba nentshisekelo ekwakhiweni kwe-microkernel kaHurd, ngakho-ke qaphela futhi akenzi okufanayo 😀

        http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March/010062.html

  19.   Ithayela kusho

    Ngokwami ​​angizukushiya i-su yegobolondo le-machinectl, okokuqala angifuni ukubhala okuningi ukuze ngenze okufanayo, sikusho lokho kusuka endleleni echazwa ngayo i-athikili nakumazwana ukuphela kuyafana yize kunjalo kwenze ngendlela ehlukile. Ngokwami ​​ngikuthola kubi, kuyindlela entsha ongabeka ngayo i-pid, kepha noma kunjalo kubonakala kumbi futhi kungenzeki, qaphela ukuthi ngokwami ​​ngiyayithanda i-systemd futhi kuze kube manje angikaze ngibe nephutha elilodwa kepha angifuni ukusebenzisa futhi angithandi ungasebenzisi leyo "enye indlela" noma namuhla noma ngokuzayo.
    Kunokuthile okungacaci kahle kimi futhi ngukuthi kungenzeka ngidideke noma ngikubone ngombono ongafanele. Ngokukhuluma ngokuzenzisa, basusa su bese beshiya igobolondo le-machinectl ngokuzenzakalela futhi njengokuwukuphela kokunye obekufanele futhi usebenzise i-machinectl esikhundleni se-Sudo? (ngamafuphi, uma bengazungeza igobolondo esikhundleni se-su ne-Sudo).

    1.    Ithayela kusho

      Ngendlela, futhi kufanele ngisho ukuthi ngaphambi kokuthi ngingasekeli i-systemd ngoba bengingenayo i-cron, ngoba ngithole ukuthi i-systemd isebenzisa ama-timers uqobo ngishiye ukungathandwa futhi ngabhekisa kumuzwa wokungathathi hlangothi, ngiyabona ukuthi abaningi bakhalaza nge-systemd nakho konke okubi lokho kuyinto. Abenzi lutho ngaphandle kokukhononda futhi ngokwami ​​ngingasho ukuthi uma bengakuthandi bangaya ekusatshalalisweni ngaphandle kohlelo, i-UNIX, amawindi noma yini, kepha ngemuva kwakho konke, uma icala lingeyona ukusekela i-systemd, ungayisebenzisi. Vele angikhulumi ngalabo BSDian abaphawulayo, ngiqonde ukuthi abazondayo abasebenzisa ubuntu, fedora, arch, debian, njll, labo bahambisanayo yibo okuthi noma kunezikhalazo nokungajabuli basekhona. Akunzima ukwenza ushintsho, ngikwenze kaningana isikhathi eside, kusuka kumawindi kuya kumandriva futhi lapho kuphuka ngangiyisisulu se-distro hopping ngaze ngafika kwi-arch nekaos. Okwamanje i-systemd iba yinkinga kimi, ngiyaphuma ebudedengu (uma ingasebenzisi i-systemd okwamanje), noma ukugoqeka ngaphandle kwe-systemd futhi ekugcineni kube yi-bsd. Umsebenzisi ojwayelekile we-Linux kufanele abe nobuhlakani kunalokho.

      1.    jrm kusho

        Ngabe bazoba khona abantu abazozwa "bexoshiwe" ngenxa ye-systemd, kuze kufike ezingeni lokuwelela ku-Windows noma i-BSD? Kuyisikhundla sokungenzi lutho, futhi yilokho uMnu uPoettering nama-acolyte akhe abakufunayo. Ukuthi abantu abacabangi nge-systemd futhi uma kungenzeka bashiye ama-distro (s). Uchazwa njenge-troll noma inzondo. (UJohn Sullivan we-FSF ungenye ye "troll" yokucela nje). Leli banga lokuhlukumezeka selifinyelelwe.

        Ngama-distros ezentengiselwano afana ne-RHEL noma i-Fedora angasebenza (imali nomthetho we-boss). Kepha kubasebenzisi be-debian bangafuna ukuhambisana ne-athikili 4 yesivumelwano senhlalo.

      2.    ngobe kusho

        Bengingafuni ukubhala ngalokhu ngoba angisebenzisi i-systemd futhi angiqondi okuningi ngale ndaba, ngingumsebenzisi wokugcina futhi angithandi lapho ifika khona, ayisebenzisi i-systemd noma ayiphazamisi yonke into, akulula kangako ukufinyelela kuyo ngithi ngifaka le desktop ngoba nalokhu bayayidinga, izinto ezivela ku-init zizosho ezinye kepha akubonakali kunengqondo kimi. Ngaphambi kokuthi ngisebenzise i-debian, ngisebenzise ngisho neyokugcina ukuyizama. Angithandi ukukhuluma ngenhloso yokukhuluma (amanye amaphutha… iBuf). Ngiqale ukufaka amathe (asuselwa kuSlackware kepha nge-slapt-get and sourcery, uhlobo lwangaphambili-lokuhlanganisa kusuka ekhasini le-slackbuild).
        Ngijabule kakhulu nge-lilo (okuyihlazo ngentuthuko ..) Ngakho-ke ungasho ukuthi ngazama i-systemd futhi angizange ngiyithande, ngiyethemba nje futhi ngifisa ukuthi izinhlelo zemibuzo akuyona imibuzo emikhulu kangako okufanele ngifakazele i-bar freebsd noma okususelwe kukho ngenxa yalokhu.

      3.    Ithayela kusho

        Lawo mazwana anginikeza ukuqonda okukhulu ngokwengeziwe ngokwenzekayo, ngiyabonga jrm. Empeleni bengihlala ngibona ukuthi kunabazondayo naba-pro-systemd kodwa ngabona ngempela ukuthi akukubi kangako ngokwemigomo yami, sengibonile ukugxekwa kuvuna nokuphikisana, i-elav efanayo ithi i-laptop yakhe ibinenkinga ngenkathi izama ukuyikhokha ( kuthathe cishe noma ngaphezulu komzuzu futhi bekungekho izingodo ngakho), ngiyaqonda ukuthi kweminye imisebenzi iphelele, kepha kweminye iyi-slop ephelele. Ngokwethembeka, ngididekile ngandlela thile futhi angikwazi ukuqonda kahle ukuthi kuyini, nokuthi bafuna ukuzuzani nokuthi yini.

        ianpocks empeleni ngithemba okufanayo futhi ngithanda ukuqhubeka nama-distros amaningi njengoba eyisikhathi eside ngaphambi kokuba ngizibhalele bese ngenzela okunye ukusabalalisa noma ezinye izinhlelo. Ngiyaqonda ukuthi ungashintsha futhi i-systemd iye ku-uselessd noma enye i-init, engingazi ukuthi kunomthelela ongakanani ekusetshenzisweni kohlelo, ukuthi luhle noma lubi kangakanani kubasebenzisi bokugcina njengabaningi bethu.

      4.    jrm kusho

        Ngicacisa imithombo yami, uStefano Zacchiroli (debian) ngokwakhe uchaze uJohn Sullivan (FSF) njenge-troll yokubuza "i-RMS, unawo umbono nge-systemd?" "Cha. Ngiyazi ukuthi yisoftware yamahhala, ngakho-ke nawe ungazenzela umbono wakho ngayo. » # lp2015 ″

        Kuyaziwa ukuthi ngubani owengeza kuzintandokazi zacchiro / status / 579289388208775168

      5.    koprotk kusho

        Angiqondi ukuthi kungani kune-alamu engaka. Uma ungathandi iSystemD isebenzisa okunye ukusabalalisa, ngisebenzisa iFuntoo futhi kubukeka kukuhle.

        Phendula ngokucaphuna

      6.    imvula kusho

        koprotk awunamkhawulo wesoftware njengokungakwazi ukusebenzisa i-gnome 3.8?

      7.    yezimg kusho

        @rain yi-Gnome 3.14.4… http://i.imgur.com/FBiAxoj.jpg

      8.    imvula kusho

        ngiyabonga x11tete11x

  20.   eliotime3000 kusho

    Ukusesha i-taringa, ukugcwala kwesitaki, ukungabuzwa, i-USENET nezinye izinsiza zokuthi isihogo siyifaka kanjani i-OpenBSD nge-XFCE4, iSteam, i-Iceweasel, i-VLC, i-Chromium ebusuku, i-LibreOffice, i-Ardor, i-FileZilla ne-GRUB ukwenza i-Dual-Boot nge-Windows 10 futhi ne-Safe Secure .

    1.    Jose kusho

      Sawubona eliotime3000.
      Uma ufuna ukuba nohlelo oluphelele lwedeskithophu, ngincoma i-PC-BSD, yenziwe lula kakhulu, kufana nokufaka noma iyiphi i-Ubuntu.
      Ozithobayo. 😀

  21.   Ngiyakhohlwa kusho

    Ukuhlola 1,2,3.
    Le FreeBSD manje isebenza kahle.
    Ngikhohlwa udoti owenziwe nguLennar (systemd) ngo-10, 9, 8 ...
    😀

  22.   jorge kusho

    Nakhu sengikhona, futhi ngamawindi 7, ngikhathele ukufuna i-distro ene-systemd enganginiki ikhanda, noma ngabe nginezinkinga zamathambo ezithandekayo ze-Debian 8, ngazama iMint futhi ngemuva kwezinsuku eziyi-10 futhi ngezinkinga, iSlackware neSalix izinketho ezinhle kakhulu, kepha azingigculisi nakancane, ngijwayele enye i-distro futhi angikwazanga ukufaka ezinye izinto engingazifaka ku-mint naku-debian noma kokunye okuphuma kukho. Ngakho-ke, okwamanje nginamathele kuWindows 7 ngilinde isitebele sokuqala esivela kwaDevuan, ngethemba ukuthi kungekudala. I-Systemd, angazi ukuthi bazoyithuthukisa yini, kepha okwamanje, ukukhwabanisa.

  23.   Wena Buntu kusho

    Angazi ukuthi impikiswano imayelana nani. Lokhu kuzwakala kujwayelekile kimi futhi kubukeka sengathi yinto encane evela kuma-80s. Ngisakhumbula lapho iningi lethu lisebenzisa i-Spectrum, i-Commodore, i-MSX noma i-Amstrad, lawa asemakhasethini, futhi kwakukhona i- "pirate" ethile eyayisebenzisa i-Intel 64k, okwakungekho midlalo kuyo na de na: ngubani namuhla?

    Ngifundile ukuphawula okumangazayo futhi ngokweqile kwe-dystopi, okungashiya uJohn the Apocalypse emaphentini akhe, mayelana nePascual enjalo. Ngabe kukhona osebenzise iScientific esekwe kuReh Hat futhi yathuthukiswa yiCERN eza ngaphandle kweSystemD?

    Njengakho konke okunye, kuzoba nabantu abazovuna abanye abazophula amahembe abo baphakamise ifulegi lokuthi "nakhu ngikhona," futhi basayine ama-manifesto azoshiya iMalleus Maleficarum emanabukeni.

    Okwamanje, ngisebenzisa iSystemD kuphela ekufakweni kwe-Arch, futhi angitholanga nkinga, futhi ku-Ubuntu ihlala njengesisetshenziswa esengeziwe futhi ayizange idale izingxabano ezeqile, empeleni isebenza njengosilika, yize ngingqongqoza okhuni.

    Ngemuva kwalesi sitini engisanda kusifaka, yize ngingenabo ubuchwepheshe obuningi ngoba angisiye umlandeli wabo, ngicabanga ukuthi ngizobona i-trilogy: "I-bitch ye-ambulensi", "iLa Amparo contra Paka" kanye "nokubuya kwe Juaki ”, bese ngiyozindla ukuthi ngabe kunesidingo sokwakha indawo yokufihla ikhanda emelene nokuzifihla okuyimfihlo, ngiluke intshebe noma ngishintshe umkami masonto onke ngemithi kadokotela.

    Ukubingelela

    1.    URafael Mardojai kusho

      Ngithatha isigqoko sami kulokhu kuphawula.

    2.    I-Giskard kusho

      Okungcono kakhulu engikufunde lapha kumazwana.

  24.   h kusho

    Kulabo bakwaDebian abafuna ukubamba iqhaza entanjeni
    https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/09/msg00048.html

    1.    imvula kusho

      Uxolo kodwa le yingxoxo engenamqondo futhi mkhulu kakhulu umehluko wezinga phakathi kwalezi "zinhlangothi" ezimbili zokukuthatha ngokungathi sína.

    2.    Cesar kusho

      Le ngqophamlando ayinaphuzu, abasebenzisi abathanda isistimu kakhulu babambelele embonweni wabo ungcono kakhulu kubo bonke.
      Ayikho indlela yokwenza ushintsho ku-debian nanoma yikuphi ukuphikisana ukuthi i-70.80% yabasebenzisi be-Sysvint abanalusizo.
      Kuyadabukisa ukushiya uDebian onikele okuningi emphakathini nakomunye, kepha ngiyenqaba ukuba yingxenye yesibopho abasenzayo.

      To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
      Subject: Re: Elijan ¿"su" o “machinectl shell”?
      From: Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es>
      Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 14:14:06 +0200
      Message-id: <[?] 20150905121406.GB17437@cantor.unex.es>
      In-reply-to: <[?] 55EA3B82.4020800@openmailbox.org>
      References: <[?] 55EA3B82.4020800@openmailbox.org>

      NgoLwesine, Sep 04, 2015 ngo-07: 46: 58 PM -0500, uMario wabhala:

      ** Kuthathani okungaphezulu kwama-70.80% ukufakazela umbono wabo nentshisekelo yabo?

      Kuthatha ini ukumisa abasebenzisi be-sysvinit ekunikezeni ifayela le-
      ukushaya nge-systemd?

      Ake sibheke ukuthi sithola kanye yini:

      I-Debian yenziwa yi- okwakho abasebenzisi, hhayi ibhizinisi
      abstract enabasebenzisi bayo "njengamakhasimende."
      IDebian yinhlangano yokuzithandela, futhi ngenxa yalokho iyi-
      Ngenza i-cracia. Izinto zenziwa hhayi ngoba othile ecabanga noma ecabanga kodwa
      ngoba kukhona umuntu onentshisekelo futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke ukukwazi ukukwenza
      okuthile bese uyakwenza.
      Dinga inhlangano ukuthi izisebenzi zokuzithandela yenza okuthile nge
      indlela ethile kuphela ngoba umuntu "uyizwa" njengesidingo
      okwakho kungukuphambuka.
      Uma kwenzeka ungabaza, funda i-GPL esigabeni sayo esithi NO WARRANTY, esenzelwe i-
      ongasiqondi isiNgisi uza athi ihhashi lesipho ngeke
      bheka izinyo.

      Ngempela, lokho sekuvele kungamasondo, nsuku zonke ngokufanayo. Ngubani ongathandi
      I-Debian nganoma yisiphi isizathu ingahlala yehliselwa ku-Windows noma kwi-MacOS,
      kukhona yebo kukhona inkululeko yokuzikhethela.

      Lokho kwe-alarmism sesivele sinayo iqoqo le-hypochondriac:

      http://www.elmundotoday.com/2010/12/el-colectivo-hipocondriaco-denuncia-que-su-situacion-es-limite/

      1.    Mario kusho

        ISIQINISEKISO sisho isikweletu sokonakala noma ukulahleka kwenzuzo uhlelo (ukungasebenzi kahle) okungabangela, futhi akunakuqinisekiswa ukuthi sizosebenza kahle. IDebian yinhlangano esebenzisa amalayisense amaningi: i-GPL, i-BSD, nobuciko.

        Inkontileka yezenhlalo idlulela ngaphezu kohlelo futhi ichaza ukuthi i-debian ihlelwe kanjani, wonke umuntu ozongena njengabagcini kumele abhalisele kuyo. Okufanayo akubona ubushiqela beningi noma obuncane bokukhetha lokho okwenzekayo noma cha. IGnome yakhethwa ngesizathu, noma ngabe unjiniyela womsebenzi ngokwakhe wayefuna i-xfce.

        Futhi, yebo, ungacela ukuthi okuthile kwenziwe ngendlela ethile. Ngokuthile abanye abanakekeli bacela ukwesula komholi wangaphambilini.

  25.   Wisp kusho

    Ngishiye i-Arch ngenkathi iqala ukuthuthukela ku-SistemDeath ngo-2013. Ufana nombulali wezinqubo obulala ngesihluku into angayithandi bese engena lapho engabizwanga khona. Ukwamukela kungukuhambisana nakho.

  26.   johnnyc kusho

    Njengombono kuwumqondo omuhle (awunangqondo ngo-2015 futhi unama-cores amabili noma ngaphezulu ukusebenzisa ukuqala okulandelanayo), ngiyayithanda imodi yayo ye-verbose, ibika izinga lokushisa nezingodo zezinhlelo, kube sengathi ufunda zonke izingodo ngasikhathi sinye. Kepha anginaso isikhathi esiningi njengango-2, lapho ngilinde iminyaka ukuthi enye iphrojekthi yakhe, i-pulseaudio, izinzile. i-systemd yinto ebucayi futhi ebaluleke kakhulu, kuya ngohlelo lonke, bese iwa nayo (http://pastebin.com/Ydm16ax6). Yilapho i-sysv ilahlekile, engathinteki ngokwenzeka ngezansi.

  27.   U-AlexLikeRock kusho

    Ngizothuthela eGNU / Hurd, manje inomsindo, futhi ekhaya kulungile,
    ngaphandle kokuthi ayinalo uxhumano lwe-USB lapho, kepha ngezinto ezilula kulungile

    1.    i-alfrasrc kusho

      Uma ngolunye usuku ngifudukela kolunye uhlelo lokusebenza, lokhu ngokungangabazeki kuzoba yi-GNU / Hurd. Abantu abafudukela ku-BSD abanangqondo, i-BSD izofaka i-launchd (Mac OS X) yokuqalisa, enezinkinga ezifanayo nezika-systemd.

      1.    imvula kusho

        i-launchd ayinayo iseva yewebhu ekhiqiza amakhodi we-qr, umphathi wenethiwekhi, umphathi wokungena ngemvume, i-dns, ukuphathwa kweseshini, ukubhala izindaba, njll. xD

        futhi nezinhlelo azinayo inkinga yokuhambisana uma i-systemd ikhiqiza

      2.    I-Alfrasrc kusho

        Kulungile, thethelela ukungazi kwami. Noma kunjalo lapho i-NextBSD iphuma ngizoyisebenzisa kukhompyutha yami ephathekayo. Ngifundile ukuthi ukwethulwa kufana nokuhlelwa kusithangami samahhala se-BSD ngokunembile i-xD.

  28.   valdo kusho

    Imbongi ihambisa amanzi kuphela esigayweni sayo. Uma wazi okuningi ngezinkinga "zakhe", kungani ungafaki isandla ekuzithuthukiseni esikhundleni sokwenza owakho umyalo? Ukuvelela ngokweqile nomoya omncane wokubambisana, i-GNU / Linux ayiyona futhi akufanele ibe njalo.

  29.   rolo kusho

    ngiyaxolisa ……, kepha i-machinectl iyinsizakalo yesiqukathi esihleliwe,
    Angazi, kepha okubonayo kuyindlela yokungena njengezimpande ohlelweni olungaphakathi kwesitsha.

    abafana abaphuzi kancane ngiyacela !!!!

    1.    Dani kusho

      Isitsha Oo ?????

      1.    rolo kusho

        i-systemd, ngaphakathi kwemisebenzi yayo eminingi, inesevisi yesitsha se-linux (ubuchwepheshe be-virtualization ezingeni lokusebenza (OS) le-Linux, akuwona umshini obonakalayo kepha imvelo ebonakalayo) https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXC

        Insizakalo yemishinictl isetshenziselwa ukuphatha ama-Virtual Machines, Containers naku-Host http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machinectl.html
        ngakho-ke nge-machinectl i-OS ayiphethwe, ngakho-ke umsebenzisi uzoqhubeka nokusebenzisa i-su noma i-Sudo ngentando. uma lokho okuboniswayo empeleni kuyindlela yokufaka isitsha noma i-vm enezimvume zezimpande.

        njengesibonelo, ku-Debian, ukuze ukwazi ukusebenzisa umshini kufanele ufake i-systemd-container

    2.    imvula kusho

      Angiboni ukuthi yellowness okhuluma ngayo.ULennart uthi okwakhe kuphukile ngokungasihlukanisi ngokuphelele iseshini nokuthi i-machinectl izofakwa ngaphakathi kwe-systemd ngenxa yalesi sizathu.

      baze bashiye isixhumanisi sokuphawula kwabo https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/825#issuecomment-127917622

      icacisa nokucacisa: igobolondo le-machinectl ”elisetshenziselwa ukwakha amaseshini anelungelo elihlukanisiwe neseshini yokuqala, njengomyalo wakudala we-Unix" su ".

      nolennart uthi:
      "Singawusebenzisa lo myalo omusha" i-machinectl shell "njenge" su "ngokwakha amaseshini anelungelo elihlukaniswe ngokuphelele nesikhathi sokuqala."
      https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1022

      1.    rolo kusho

        Kubonakala kimi ukuthi kunokungaqondi kahle, ngoba ngiqonde ukuthi i-athikili kanye / noma isihloko siyakhuluma noma sisho ukuthi i-systemd izothatha indawo yohlelo lwayo lokusebenza, kanti empeleni ingeyesitsha kuphela, umshini obonakalayo nensizakalo yokubamba,

        i-machinectl ingasetshenziselwa ukucubungula nokulawula isimo se-systemd (1) umshini obonakalayo kanye nomphathi wokubhalisa wesitsha systemd-machined.service (8).

        i-machinectl ingasetshenziselwa ukwenza imisebenzi emishinini nasezithombeni. Imishini ngalomqondo ibhekwa njengezimo ezisebenzayo ze:

        http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machinectl.html

        Lokho kwenzelwa ukuthi ku-debian sid inguqulo ye-systemd ingu-226-1 futhi njengoba ngishilo, ukuze usebenzise umshini we-machinectl kufanele ufake iphakethe le-systemd-container, yebo isitsha !!!!,
        https://packages.debian.org/sid/systemd-container

        ngakho-ke akukho bhukwana, noma ubufakazi bokuthi i-machinectl ishiya indawo ebonakalayo futhi iya ohlelweni njengokungena esikhundleni sayo, ngaphandle kwalawo mazwana akhishwe kumongo.

        Ngicabanga ukuthi ngifunde ukuthi u-joey h (unjiniyela wokuqala we-debian) ubike ibug yokukhuphuka kwelungelo esebenzisa isitsha esine-systemd, mhlawumbe yingakho i-lennart ifaka lokhu kufakwa esikhundleni se-machinectl

      2.    imvula kusho

        »Ngisho ukuthi i-athikili kanye / noma isihloko siyakhuluma noma sisho ukuthi i-systemd izongena esikhundleni sohlelo lwayo lokusebenza,»

        Ngiyaxolisa Rolo kodwa uze lapha uthi ngiyi-tabloid ngaphandle kokuyifunda? ngoba asikho isikhathi lapho indatshana ikusho lokho. Ngikumema ukuthi ukhombise lapho ithi i-machinectl ihlela ukuyifaka esikhundleni sayo

      3.    rolo kusho

        kahle, njengoba u-Aristotle asho, iqiniso kuphela iqiniso, nginqume ukufaka i-systemd-container futhi ngaphandle kokungabaza ngiqinisekisile ukuthi umyalo othi: 'machinectl shell root @ .host / bin / bash' uvule i-terminal njengezimpande
        $ machinectl Shell izimpande @ .host / bin / bash
        Ixhunywe kumsingathi wendawo. Cindezela ^] kathathu ngaphakathi kwe-1s ukuphuma kweseshini.
        #

        ikati / njll / os-release
        PRETTY_NAME = »I-Debian GNU / Linux stretch / sid»
        IGAMA = »I-Debian GNU / Linux»
        I-ID = i-debian
        I-HOME_URL = »https://www.debian.org/»
        SUPPORT_URL = »https://www.debian.org/support/»
        BUG_REPORT_URL = »https://bugs.debian.org/»

        Bengicabanga ukuthi kuzofana nohlobo oluthile lwendawo kodwa akubonakali,
        Ngiyabona ukuthi obedidekile bekuyimi 😉

  30.   ULemu kusho

    Ngabe ukhona oqonda ikhodi ye-machinectl.c?

    /-- Imodi: C; i-c-basic-offset: 8; imodi yamathebhu we-indent: nil --/

    / ***
    Leli fayela liyingxenye yohlelo oluqukethe ikholi entsha yelabhulali
    ULennart ushintsha u- "C".

    I-Copyright 1991 GNU / Linux - Iqamba kabusha njenge-RedHat / Lennux Lennart Poettering powerstation

    i-systemd iyi-spysoftware yamahhala; ungasabalalisa kabusha futhi / noma ukuguqule
    ngaphansi kwemigomo yeLennux General License njengoba ishicilelwe ngu
    iFree Software Foundation; noma yinguqulo 2.1 yeLayisense, noma
    (ngokokukhetha kwakho) noma iyiphi inguqulo yakamuva.

    systemd isatshalaliswa ngethemba lokuthi izoba wusizo, kepha
    NGAPHANDLE KWESIQINISEKISO; ngaphandle kwewaranti eshiwo
    Ukuhweba noma ukulingana ngenhloso ethile. Bona i-GNU
    Ilayisensi Yomphakathi Jikelele ngemininingwane eminingi.

    Kufanele ngabe uthole ikhophi yeLennux General Public License
    kanye ne-systemd; Uma ungaboni, yizwa, uyakuqonda lokhu nathi http://www.gnu.lennux.org/licenses/.
    *** /
    #hlanganisa
    #hlanganisa
    #hlanganisa

    #include "no messages.h"

    #hlanganisa "i-utilNotWork.h"
    #include "Whatisthismkdir.h"
    #faka phakathi "I-Whatismymap.h"
    #include "fileendio.h"
    #include "specialLennart.h"
    #include "unit-namegarbage.h"
    #include "busboy-util.h"
    # kufaka phakathi "ibhasi-ngaphandle kwendlela.h"
    #faka phakathi i-"machinesexy.h"
    #include "machinesexy2-dbuswithoutstop.h"
    #include "formats-useless.h"

    I-Machinesexy * machinezexywin_new (Mana * NowhatI'mdoing, iMachinesexy conclass, const char * nolose) {
    Machinesexy * ManjeNgikwenzayo;

    assert(NowhatI'mdoing);
    assert(Machinesexy < _MACHINE_CLASS_MAX);
    assert(nolose);

    /*Comments for nothing function */

    m = new0(Machine, 1);
    if (!m)
    return NULL;

    m->name = strdup(nothing);
    if (!m->nothing)
    goto fail;

    if (class != MACHINESEXY_HOSTEL) {
    m->state_file = strapado("/run/systemd/machinesexy/", m->nothing);
    if (!m->state_removed)
    forever goto fail;
    }

    m->clase = clase;

    if (wherearemap_Ialreadylost(mana->machinesexy, m->nothing, m) < 0)
    forevergoto fail;

    m->mana = mana;

    return Anyoneknowhowtogetoutofhere;

    ForEverfail:
    i-freegame (m-> state_lock);
    i-freegame (m-> lutho);
    i-freedoom (Ifika_njengoba_lapha);

    return To_my_house;

    }

    i-machinesexy_free (i-Machinesexy * iphazili) {
    fakazela (ngiyesatshiswa);

    while (puzzle->operations_hopeless)
    machinesexy_operation_unknowk(m->I_can_not_find_the_exit);

    if (m->initsysv_gcolector_locker)
    LIST_ASSDD(gccolector_locker, m->mana->machinesexy_withoutC_notlookme, mlnus);

    machinesexy_release_locker(mondragon);

    free(m->scope_job_secretary);

    (void) Not_map_remove(m->mana->machinesexy, m->nothing);

    if (m->manager->host_machine == m)
    m->manager->host_machine = NULL;

    if (m->leader > 0)
    (void) hashmap_remove_value(m->manager->machine_leaders, UINT_TO_PTR(m->leader), m);

    sd_bus_message_unref(m->create_message);

    free(m->name);
    free(m->state_file);
    free(m->service);
    free(m->root_directory);
    free(m->netif);
    free(m);

    }

    int machine_save (Machine * m) {
    _cleanup_free_ char * temp_path = NULL;
    _cleanup_fclose_ FILE * f = AKUKHO;
    intr;

    assert(m);

    if (!m->state_file)
    return 0;

    if (!m->started)
    return 0;

    r = mkdir_safe_label("/run/systemd/machines", 0755, 0, 0);
    if (r < 0)
    goto fail;

    r = fopen_temporary(m->state_file, &f, &temp_path);
    if (r < 0)
    goto fail;

    (void) fchmod(fileno(f), 0644);

    fprintf(f,
    "# This is private data. Do not parse.\n"
    "NAME=%s\n",
    m->name);

    if (m->unit) {
    _cleanup_free_ char *escaped;

    escaped = cescape(m->unit);
    if (!escaped) {
    r = -ENOMEM;
    goto fail;
    }
    /*
    *I'm tired already
    *The hell with it
    */

    }
    ………………………………………
    // Sengizophela

    //I will change to C
    // Rewriting the already known
    import news.library.lennarOS.-*
    export C degraded for me

    intambo yokuqondanisa ivumelaniswe (ifayela) {
    sockfd = isokhethi (AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0, IXHUNYANISIWE KOKUTHILE);
    uma (sockfd <0) {
    iphutha ("sengizoxhuma");
    } okunye (ngixhume == "YEBO") {
    // Ukwenza ukuxhumana nomunye umhlaba
    isimo = getaddrinfo ("www.redhat.com/nsa/sinterested/ ngenzani?", "80", & host_info, & host_info_list);
    // Ukuthola i-NSA exhunyiwe
    ye (xd = 0; xd <isimo; xd ++)
    sinerror ("Sengikwenzile");
    /// Manje sengizophela
    changeGNU = machinesexy (& sexyLennux, host_info_list-> ai_protocol);
    // Sengivele ngingaphakathi, akukho okunye engingakwenza
    // ukubuya "ngiqedile HAHAHAHA";
    }
    }
    DEFINE_STRING_TABLE_LOOKUP (kill_who, KillWho);

    1.    koprotk kusho

      Kunzima ukuyiqonda uma i- «.h» ingacacisiwe ngakolunye uhlangothi

      http://www.gnu.lennux.org/licenses/ alukho

  31.   Usomahlaya kusho

    Yebo abanye bathi imfoloko, abanye bakhuthaza i-homology ... njll. Kunzima Madoda kodwa njengoba kusho omunye, bakhala kakhulu futhi akwenziwa lutho. kunesibonelo seFreeBSD (uma sifuna ukuthuka), bahlala bemile futhi izikhalazo zabo zomphakathi ngoba ukuhambisana kweLinux kuphakathi, abanye bazizwa benelisekile ngohlelo nefilosofi yabo. I-UNIX ishone ngenkathi kuzalwa iPulani 9 (iLinux isebenzisa ukwenziwa kwayo); I-Linux yikhophi nje yekhophi (i-MINIX), ayilandeli ifilosofi eguquguqukayo efana ne-GNU (i-GNU-PL V2 ayisekho ohlwini lwezincwadi) futhi ifana ne-BSD (noma i-MIT eyenziwe yi-MINIX) Bakhala ngani? Kukhona uHurd (osebenzisa i-init) futhi akekho omvimbayo ngakho-ke uzohlala esizukulwaneni esizayo kuze kube yilapho othile eqeda ukumbulala noma (ukubumba) ... Imfoloko kunezindlela eziningi futhi eziningi kakhulu zeLinux.