Gaisuwa ga kowa da kowa. Wannan lokacin na zo ne don yin magana game da masu bincike Mozilla Firefox y chromiumwaxanda suke Open Source kuma ana amfani da su a cikin Windows da Mac haka nan kuma a mafi yawan gizar GNU / Linux (duk abubuwan da aka tsara na hukuma da cokulansu).
Koyaya, Na lura cewa yayin zazzage Mozilla Firefox daga gidan yanar gizon hukuma, sai na ci karo da sigar da aka matse a cikin BZip a tarball da kuma batun Chromium, a cikin tsarin ZIP.
Duk da yake Mozilla Firefox da Chromium suna sauƙaƙawa ga masu haɓaka distros su tattara abubuwan daidaitaccen tsarin su ta hanyarsu, a game da Chromium babu wata ƙaranci ko kuma sha'awar ba da sigar da take aƙalla ta halin yanzu kuma mai mutunci don cikakken jin daɗinsa. (A game da Google Chrome, kuna iya ganin cewa akwai babbar sha'awa ga kiyaye burauzarku har zuwa yau, amma tare da takwaransa na buɗe tushen akwai sha'awar da ta bar abubuwa da yawa da ake buƙata).
Tare da Mozilla Firefox ban sami matsala ba na sanya shi na zamani, tunda kusan duk masu rikitarwa sun dace da abubuwan da Gidauniyar Mozilla ta fitar (har ma da Debian) sabunta tare da wannan mitar fiye da yadda aikinta yake daidai da cokali mai yatsu), amma Chromium yana da wasu abubuwan da ba su da sigar daidai da takamaiman sigar Google Chrome, kamar shari'ar Debian (Ba shi da ma tashar talla ko aƙalla repo na musamman kamar Iceweasel).
Batun Ubuntu (dole ne ku ƙara repo na tsaro wanda Launchpad ya bayar don kiyaye abubuwan kunshin ku na yau da kullun kuma a bayyane yake, ya kasance cikin sigar 25 a cikin kowane juzu'i har ma a Lucid), don haka na yanke shawarar amfani da rubutun da aka yi musamman don shigar da tsarin Chromium na dare daga kusan sarrafa kansa hanya daga masu amfani da dandalin tattaunawar Debian, tunda a hukumance ba zan iya samun wani juzu'i ko Linux Mint ba waɗanda suke da ingantaccen zamani daga dangin Debian (a wasu wuraren kuma, suna daidai da yanayin Google Chrome).
Idan zan iya samun repo wanda a ciki na sanya ingantattun sifofin Chromium na zamani (ko kuma aƙalla ginin dare), da gaske zan yaba da taimakon. A yanzu, Zan ci gaba da amfani da rubutun don in iya aiki tare da ginin dare na Chromium (al'adar da na shigo da ita lokacin da nake amfani da Windows).
Da kyau, al'ada ne ba ku sami Firefox a cikin Debian ba, saboda duk da cewa OpenSource ce, amma tana da sassa (kamar tambari) tare da lasisin takunkumi waɗanda ba su cika manufofin Debian ba, don haka sai ku sami Iceweasel.
A cikin matsi ban sani ba, amma a Debian Wheezy muna da sabon ingantaccen fasalin Chromium ba da daɗewa ba. A yanzu haka akwai sigar: 26.0.1410.43-1.
Bani da wata matsala da Iceweasel a cikin Debian Stable, tunda tana min aiki iri daya kamar yadda Firefox take yi (taswirar ta mozilla.debian.net ita ce wacce nake amfani da ita don kiyaye Iceweasel har zuwa yau kuma tana aiki tare da gwaji), amma a cikin Chromium haka yake Matsalar samun ƙarin takaddun gwaji a cikin tsayayyen sigar Debian (a Gwajin kamar dai kuna ƙara tashar bayan fage).
Yanzu, idan mutum yana so ya yi amfani da sigar ginin dare, dole ne ya yi irin aikin da aka yi amfani da shi yayin shigar da Firefox (yi rubutu don shigarwa / sabunta mai binciken) kuma yana da aƙalla fasali na 3 na kwaya (Na riga na yi ƙoƙari ta amfani da sigar kwaya wacce ta zo ta kan kwamfutarka, amma a bayyane zai yi aiki akan Wheezy ba tare da matsala ba).
Tare da wasu shirye-shirye kamar su LibreOffice, Skype da / ko Angry IP Scanner shigarwar ta kasance mai sauƙi a gare ni, tunda ba lallai ne in yi amfani da kowane rubutun shigarwa / sabuntawa ba, amma dole ne in yi amfani da komai ba kuma komai ba sai DPKG da / ko GDebi .
Ban bincika dalilai ba, amma abin yana bani mamaki cewa sigar Chromium wanda idan banyi kuskure ba kawai aka sake shi a watan Afrilu tuni ya kasance cikin kunshin Wheezy, yayin da Iceweasel 17 kasancewa Nuwamba ba. Da fatan ba zai kawo matsala ba kasancewar kwanan nan.
Wanne sigar Iceweasel kuke magana a kai? Zuwa ga Sakin mirgina wanda yake akan mozilla.debian.net ko zuwa ESR wanda ya riga ya kasance a cikin tashar Wheezy? Saboda Iceweasel da nake da shi 20 kuma ina da shi a cikin Debian Squeeze: http://i.imgur.com/yavIei5.png (daga tashar mozilla.debian.net saboda tashar bayan matsi har yanzu tana 10 ESR).
Zuwa tsoffin sigar Wheezy wanda yake 10.0.12 kamar yadda yake 3.5.16 don Matsi.
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/iceweasel
A koyaushe ina tunanin cewa zai yi kyau in yarda da sigar 17.0 idan ta fito amma ba su samu damar yin ta ba, sun bar ta a cikin gwaji da kuma bayan gogewa don matsi na mozilla.debian.net.
Abin kunya ne, amma yana da inganci a yi amfani da Debian Squeeze blackport daga mozilla.debian.net idan ba kwa son yin haɗari ta amfani da repo na gwaji (a cikin kansa ingancin wuraren ajiyar kusan iri ɗaya ne, amma ba zai haɗa da ajiyar daga rashin inganci).
Akwai wuraren ajiya guda biyu wadanda suke kiyaye Chromium har zuwa yau, daya mai karko (sigar 25.0.1364.172) da kuma ci gaba (27.0.1453.6), PPAs suna da ppa: av-shkop / chromium da ppa: av-shkop / chromium-dev
Na gode sosai, amma na fi so in ƙara PPAs zuwa tsohuwar (tare da maɓallin kewayawa da gyara fayil ɗin "Source.list"). Wannan hanyar zan guji matsaloli tare da izini na gudanarwa da kuma tare da sudo (tunda na riga na fara son "su", dama?).
A cikin Debian abu mai sauki ne, idan kuna son zama a cikin barga mai karko, dole ne ku ba wa kanku ra'ayin cewa shirye-shiryen ba za su kasance cikin fasalinsu na zamani ba. Yanzu idan kuna son samun sabbin abubuwan shirye-shiryen (ko kusan) amfani da gwaji ko rashin daidaito 😉
Ina farin ciki da gidan Debian, saboda da kyar nake amfani da wasu shirye-shiryen da nake sabunta su (masu bincike da skype, ba shakka). Amma ga Chromium, ba su yi wata sanarwa ba musamman don tsayayyar fitowar Debian kamar yadda suke yi da Iceweasel (wanda a halin yanzu, zai baku damar zaɓar sigar aurora kuma tana aiki a Debian Stable)
Dangane da reshe na gwaji, Debian Stable tana tambayata don mabuɗin jama'a don a yi amfani da shi don kowane takamaiman shiri.
Wannan shi ne cewa Debian a cikin ingantacciyar sigar ta ba za ta iya karyewa ba kuma wannan tsaron da yake ba ku tsawon lokaci ya sa ya zama mai wahala a maye gurbin sa.Wannan eean matattarar Debian ɗin da na rubuta an girka shi tun lokacin da aka ƙaddamar da shi, shekaru da yawa da suka gabata kuma a yau ya gabatar da aibi na farko, maimakon haka, Laifi na ne. Ya zamana cewa a karon farko ba a fara jadawalin ba saboda rashin faifai sararin samaniya gdm ba zai iya rubuta shigarwar rajista ba. Na warware shi ta hanyar share wasu kayan alamomin gumaka da sauran batutuwa daga tty, sannan na sake tsara dukkan fakitin kuma ya hau Bugu da ƙari ba tare da matsala ba, dole ne in sake girman diski inda aka shigar da tsarin tunda an daidaita shi sosai, banda wannan ban daina mamakin cewa bayan shekaru ba tare da kulawa ba yana aiki tare da wannan ruwa na ranar farko
Kuma wannan shine dalilin da ya sa nake son Debian: an watsar da shi shekaru da yawa kuma wata rana kun kunna shi kuma yana ci gaba da aiki daidai.
Sabuwar sigar Chromium tana gefe. Sabuwar sigar Iceweasel tana cikin gwaji.
Matsalar ba ta Iceweasel ba ce (alhamdulillahi ina amfani da tashar mozilla.debian.net wacce ke daidai da repo na gwaji tare da barga, sigar beta da aurora), amma tare da Chromium, wanda ba zan iya ƙara gwajin gwajin na Chromium saboda ina cikin daidaito (a gwajin zaku iya ƙara repo ba tare da matsala ba).
Gaskiya ba ta canzawa sosai tsakanin amfani da sigar 17 ko 18 na chromium da 25 ..., kuma mafi la'akari da cewa chromium ba shi da barkono mai kunnawa ta tsohuwa, don haka sanya ranka cikin kwanciyar hankali, ko zazzage chrome daga gidan yanar gizonta
Na riga na yi amfani da Google Chrome don Linux, amma ina aiki daidai tare da masu binciken duka saboda ina da asusun GMail biyu.
Bugu da ƙari, a cikin Google Chrome na kashe Pepper Flash Player tunda ba shi da ƙwarewa sosai fiye da wannan Flash Player 11.2 wanda Adobe ke bayarwa (godiya da kyau cewa a cikin aikin hukuma yana da kunshin .deb wanda ke da rubutun da aka sauke ta atomatik kuma aka shigar da shi mai kunna filasha).
Bari mu yarda cewa matattarar debian (wanda ke daidaita yanzu) a cikin kwanaki uku zai zama tsayayye saboda haka ba ma'ana ba ne cewa akwai abubuwan sabuntawa tare da sabbin sigar ba ma a cikin bayanan baya ba.
kuma ya fi dacewa cewa zai ƙare da kasancewa mai rikitarwa sosai don ci gaba da samun sabbin shirye-shiryen kwanan nan irin su chromium da iceweasel, da sauransu fiye da komai lokacin da matsi ya je wurin ajiyar kayan tarihi.
Yana iya zama, amma a shafin yanar gizo na Debian ba su sanar da wani abu ba har yanzu (a yanzu labari ne da aka yi ta yayatawa a kan jerin sakonnin), kamar yadda ya kamata a buga shi a hukumance a sashin labaran su.
a karshen matse ya zama oldstable kamar yadda na ambata a baya.
A bayyane yake cewa ba za su ci gaba da sanya sabbin shirye-shiryen yanzu ba yayin da suke shirin matsewa zuwa rumbun adana bayanai.
Da kaina, ba ni da sha'awar tafiya tare da sabon sigar masu binciken, saboda ƙarin-ƙari da kari da wasunmu ke amfani da su ba su inganta a lokaci guda, kuma idan aka sabunta burauzar ana sanya ƙarin ba su da amfani.
Yayi kyau, nayi tsammanin ni kadai mahaukaci ne a nan wanda yafi fifita ESR akan saurin Saki.
Wannan gabaɗaya yakan faru ne a cikin Firefox da yanayin haɓaka na dadaddiyar hanya.
Kada ku gaya mani, domin a cikin Chromium 25 da nake dasu, akwai aikace-aikacen da basa bayyana idan bani da sigar da take daidai da Google Chrome.
Firefox da Debian suna da nasu share fagen, amma a takamaiman batun Firefox bana tsammanin haka ne.
Maimakon haka, wani abu daban ya faru: Karin Chrome / Chromium sun yi kama da na Opera kari saboda suna ba da izinin ƙayyadaddun sashin sassan mai bincike wanda za a iya isa ga su kuma an tsara su a cikin JS, shi ya sa za a iya kunna su kuma a kashe su lokacin da Ina tashi cikin sauki
Dangane da Firefox, akasin haka, ana tsara haɓakawa ta amfani da tsarin XUL na Firefox, wannan shine dalilin da ya sa suke da ƙarfi -in da gaskiyar cewa su ƙananan aikace-aikace ne na asali - kuma tunda suna da alaƙa da mai binciken, duk wani sabon canje-canje a mai binciken yana shafar kari da aka shigar.
Na gode!
A cikin Firefox / Iceweasel / IceCat suna yin abubuwan al'ajabi idan mutum ya bazu tare da kari; A cikin Chromium / Google Chrome, kuna da sauƙin amfani da haɓakawa ba tare da dole sai kun dogara da tsarin a mafi yawan lokuta ba.
Tare da Firefox / Iceweasel, kuna da 'yancin zaɓar sigar da zata ba ku goyan baya (a game da ESRs), amma a cikin Chromium ba haka batun yake ba.
Ina amfani da Chromium galibi don iya gwada abubuwa daban-daban waɗanda aka ƙara zuwa HTML5 / CSS3 da sauran yarukan yanar gizo waɗanda suke kirkirar abubuwa. Idan zaku iya daidaita waɗannan yarukan da wuri-wuri, baku buƙatar dogaro da jujjuya bayanan ba.
Debian ta kirkiro cokalin sa na Firefox shekaru da yawa da suka gabata, na tuna akwai korafe-korafe da yawa game da wannan, suna zargin su da Taliban don tambari (duka bizilla da debian) Debian ba shi da matukar son canza sigar "duka" kowane wata, an fi mai da hankali ga kwanciyar hankali maimakon samun sabon abu. Yana da sauƙin shigarwa da sabunta kunshin tar.bz2 don mozilla a cikin debian kuma an dakatar da ubuntus, kawai kuna cire shi zuwa babban fayil ɗin tsarin kuma ƙirƙirar hanyoyin. Idan kowa ya buƙace shi, zan bar wasu jerin umarnin nan http://paste.desdelinux.net/4767 ta yadda za su yi shi a cikin tsari guda ba tare da ko bukatar matattarar bayanai ko wata hanyar bincike ba don zazzage kunshin, Gaisuwa
Na gode sosai da rubutun. A zahiri, Ina amfani da Iceweasel 20 (sigar da take daidai da Firefox) wanda na samo daga mozilla.debian.net kuma yana yin kyau a kan Debian Stable.
Bugu da kari, aikin da aka yi tsakanin Firefox da Iceweasel kusan iri daya ne, bambancin da Firefox na hukuma yake da shi tare da Firefox na gari shi ne cewa bashi da aikin sabunta bayanai da ke bayyana a tagar "Game da", ban da wadannan kayan kwalliyar kamar Iceweasel da IceCat yawanci suna da ɗaya fiye da wani faci ko wasu gyare-gyare (GNU's IceCat yana toshe hukuncin Flash Player kuma yana tilasta yin amfani da abubuwan kari irin su Gnash, ban da kasancewa asalin IceWeasel).
Forumarin tattaunawar tattaunawa fiye da rubutun gidan yanar gizo.
A zahiri… IS tambaya ce ta dandali.
Ku gafarce ni ga rubutu a cikin hanyar [forum] [/ forum], amma wani lokacin ba a karfafa bangarori da yawa kamar yadda rashin samun daidaito a cikin sifofin Chromium yake (yanzu kusan duk wasu rikice-rikicen suna cikin sigar 26, wanda yake a halin yanzu sigar hukuma ta Google Chrome), amma aƙalla Firefox da cokula masu yatsa duk sun yi daidai (a game da Iceweasel, tashar mozilla.debian.net tana a sigar 20 a cikin sigar hukuma, da sigar 21 a cikin beta da 22 a cikin aurora).
Wannan baya tare da batun da ake magana akai, amma yana da dangantaka da Firefox
http://muyseguridad.net/2013/05/03/mozilla-critica-al-productor-del-software-espia-gubernamental-finfisher/
Tsanani?
A bayyane, wannan da kuka ambata ya saba wa falsafar Gidauniyar Mozilla: mai bincike mai hankali da ladabi tare da halayen intanet ɗinku.