A yan kwanakin nan ina karanta sakonnin farko a shafin kuma na karanta wani abu wanda a zahiri ya ce «Shin wannan zai zama farkon ƙarshen Linux azaman kwaya? GNU / Hurd yana zuwa«, Kuma da gaske ya ja hankalina, Wani abu da na fara karantawa kuma na gano cewa akwai manyan ayyuka kamar su Arch hurd y Debian GNU / Hurd.
A cikin labarai yana faɗin hakan don sigar Haushi, Debian zai ci gaba da amfani in ji Kernel. Wannan ba gaskiya bane tukunna. Amma idan akwai sigar (KAwai a rago 32) de Debian kamar yadda a cikin Arch Linux, Gentoo da sauran rarrabawa tare da wannan kwaya.
Amma menene wancan GNU / Hurd?
GNU / Hurd shine kwaya aka ci gaba don FreeBSD (Wani salon Free Software dangane da Tsarin Aiki) amma tare da lasisin GPL, ba kamar na FreeBSD ba wanda yake shine BSD kuma yana bawa waɗanda suka ci gaba tare da shi damar canza lasisin zuwa mara kyauta.
Dangane da haka, ci gaban wannan kwaya ya zama mai sauƙi tunda sauya ɗayan waɗannan ƙananan ƙwayoyin ba zai shafi tsarin waɗansu ba kuma don haka guje wa kurakuran da ba a zata ba a cikin kowane sabis.
Me kuke tunani? GNU / Linux ko GNU / Hurd?
A koyaushe na yi imani cewa ranar GNU / Hurd mai yiyuwa ne, ina nufin mai yiyuwa kuma mai amfani da 100%, zai zama mafi kyau !, Ko da iya kawo sauyi. Kodayake har yanzu muna da ɗan nisa da cimma ta, saboda mahimmancin ta.
Na san cewa da yawa daga cikin mu da suke buga labarin anan ba yan jarida bane ko masu bincike, duk da haka, ina ganin cewa wasu bayanan kamar wannan yakamata a zurfafa bincike akansu ko kuma aƙalla a ambaci ingantattun tushe ...
Wani abu mai sauƙi don farawa kamar zuwa wikipedia:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd
Kuma bincika shafukan hukuma don haka ku guje wa hasashe ...
Murna !!! ...
Wannan sam ba daidai bane. GNU / Hurd shine kwaya mai daidaita wasa wanda aka kirkira don tsarin GNU, ba don FreeBSD ba, ba don kowane tsarin ba. A zahiri, shi ne kawai yanki da GNU ya ɓace don samun ingantaccen tsarin aiki wanda suke so a cikin 1984, lokacin da aka ƙirƙiri ƙungiyar. Amma a cikin Linus Torvalds ya kirkiro kwaya wanda ake kira Linux kuma sauran labarin tuni mun sansu baki ɗaya.
Ambaton cewa ba tare da bayanin komai ba bashi da wani amfani. Ya kamata ku kammala bayanin da ke bayanin, aƙalla, cewa Hurd yana bin gine-ginen microkernel wanda kowane "daemon" shine sabar mai zaman kanta wanda ke aiwatar da ayyukanta kuma kawai ayyukanta ne (bambancinsu da Linux shine na karshen shine sabar guda ɗaya wacce yana kula da komai, alhali a cikin Hurd akwai mutane da yawa).
Na san cewa ban sanya alaƙa ba, kowane ɗayan yana neman sharuɗɗan idan yana son faɗaɗa ƙarin bayanin
oO Na rubuta abu mai karamin abu wanda ban san me ya faru ba: X
Na riga na faɗi cewa ba zai zama haka ba 😛
Kuma mafi munin abu shine mutum baya iya gyarashi 🙁
Ina tsammanin wani admin zai canza shi hahaha
Af, ya kamata a canza abun FreeBSD 🙂
@Bbchausa
Da kyau a wannan lokacin ni ne wanda na gyara labarin kuma babu wani lokaci da na ga wani abu da za ku ce ... 😕
Amma a cikin 91 Linus Torvalds
Ya kasance kafin "A cewar wannan, ci gaban wannan kwaya ya zama mai sauki" 🙁
Kuma a zahiri ba zai zama GNU / Hurd ba, amma kawai Hurd, GNU ba komai bane, tunda kawai muna magana ne game da ƙwayoyin Hurd da Linux kuma ba tsarin GNU / Hurd ko GNU / Linux ba.
Na ga cikakken Hurd.
A takarda, haka ne. A aikace, bayan shekaru 20, har yanzu har yanzu yana cikin yanayin pre-alpha kuma Linux zaka ga inda yake 😉
Daidai! Suna ta sanya kananan lu'ulu'u a motar kuma tseren ya fara tuntuni. Lokacin da suka shirya motar kuma kowa zai kasance a ƙarshen layi.
Da alama suna magana ne game da “kammala” daban-daban.
Ina tsammanin kikl1n yana nufin "cikakke" daga "a zahiri mai zagayawa" kuma Annubis zuwa "kammala" daga ƙare.
Na farko shi ne ta hanyar ra'ayi da zane kuma ba a cire hakan sai dai idan ya bace.
Na biyu lamari ne na yanayi, kuma Hurd bai ma sami gudummawa da tallafi da Linux ke samu a cikin mafarkin sa ba.
Hurd yayi kamala sosai amma a wasu shafukan yanar gizo da suke magana game da batun sai suka bayyana cewa ba a kammala ci gabansa ba saboda tsarin kwaya yana da matukar rikitarwa, idan na tuna daidai matsalar ta ta'allaka ne da abin da ake kira zaren, zai zama da kyau idan an sami ƙwayoyin biyu daya a matsayin mataimaki ga waninsa, musamman saboda kwanan nan aka samu wasu wadanda suka samu lambar yabo ta Nobel wadanda suka gano wasu hanyoyi don kirkirar algorithms masu rikitarwa fiye da na yanzu, wanda hakan zai sanya lissafin wani abu ya zama mai matukar wayewa kuma watakila kwayar Linux din ta fadi kasa dangane da sabon ci gaban fasaha.
GNU / Hurd / Linux, Ina son shi! hehe ..
Kamar yadda nake son GNU / Linux, zan sami kamfani tare da GNU / Hurd.
Za a ƙarfafa ni in yi amfani da shi a cikin distro kamar Trisquel ko Dragora, don haka zan iya cewa ina amfani da 100% GNU 100% Kyauta .. hehe ..
A ka'idar Hurd shine mafi kwayar zamani da ke aiki a halin yanzu. Kasancewarsa microkernel, tsarinsa yana kiyaye kowace aikace-aikace, direba, tsarin fayil da tsarin ladabi a cikin amintaccen ƙwaƙwalwar ajiyar a cikin sararin mai amfani.Da wannan, kusan kowane ɓangaren zai iya kasawa kuma zai sake farawa kai tsaye ba tare da ya shafi sauran abubuwan kwayar ba. ba su da damar zuwa Kayan aikin.
Sabili da haka, kowane mai amfani na iya samun ko ƙirƙirar ƙaramin aikinsa kuma yayi aiki ba tare da kwayar ba, kamar yadda aka sani, ba zai zama dole a sami gatanan tushen yin waɗannan ayyukan ba (yanci 0) tunda za a yi su a sararin mai amfani.
Da fatan wannan ba ka'ida ba ce kawai kuma Hurd ya kasance mai karko kamar yadda zai yiwu ga Wheezy
Kamar yadda na sani, ana iya amfani da Hurd daga Matsi ..
komai ba daidai bane:
- wheezy ba zai fito da kernel hurd ba
- a hoto na farko ya bayyana karara cewa ana amfani da kwayar Linux
"GNU / Hurd kwaya ce da aka ɓata don FreeBSD"
- kwaya tana da rauni, ba gnu / hurd ba
- don kyauta? ya kasance koyaushe daga farkon haɓaka don amfani dashi tare da GNU
+1, Ban san abin da wannan marubucin ya yi tunani ba, babu wani bayani da yake kusa da gaskiya. haka kuma kuma, ya kasance gajere sooooo, ban san me zai faru da ka'idojin dangane da wallafe-wallafe ba.
Ina fatan bai maye gurbin Linux ba amma zai kasance tare azaman madadin. Gaskiyar ita ce Ina so a dauke ni tsayayye don amfani na yau da kullun. Ba na tsammanin zan gwada shi kafin lokacin, amma ina so in gwada shi.
hahaha wani yayi kokarin girka shi kusan bazai yuwu ba
A zahirin gaskiya, ina jin abu ne mai nisa daga gaske. Linux shine mafi kyawun kwaya a yau. Amma idan ya kasance ba zan jinkirta amfani da shi ba.
+1
Kamar yadda na sani, GNU / Hurd kwaya ce (a ci gaba) da GNU ya kirkira.
A gefe guda, ba da alama cewa aikin ya ci gaba ta hanyar maye gurbin Linux. Stallman da kansa ya yarda cewa Linux na aiki sosai, kuma a ra'ayin sa, abin da ya kamata a yi shi ne maye gurbin lambar mallakar ta da software ta kyauta.
Na gode.
Hurd shine kwaya, GNU / Hurd zai zama Tsarin Aiki.
PS: (Kamar yadda Linux shine kernekl kuma GNU / Linux zasu zama Operating System).
watakila…. wata rana a nan gaba…. yanayin barga na hurd ya fito (wanda shine kwaya, GNU / hurd shine kwaya tare da duk wani abu xD) yakamata ya zama mai ban sha'awa don gwada yadda yake aiki.
Ina tsammanin a nan an haɗa churras da merino:
- Da farko dai akwai aikin Debian don amfani da kwayar FreeBSD tare da Debian, amma ba shi da alaƙa da Hurd: http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
- Na biyu, Hurd shine kwaya wanda yake haka tun yana ƙarami harma yakai shekaru masu nisa daga kwayar Linux. Hakanan, an samo shi don amfani tare da debian na dogon lokaci.
Gabaɗaya kyauta? Tuni nafara son ganin yana cire 3D accelerators daga katunan bidiyo ko wani abu makamancin haka. Ban sani ba, Ina son ra'ayin sabobin masu zaman kansu, amma don isa ga gaskiya zan jawo hankalin jama'ar da ke kewaye da Linux, domin in ba haka ba ba zai same shi ba.
To idan mukaje wancan Linux din bashi da 'yanci gabadaya kuma duba shi yana cire 3D accelerators daga katunan bidiyo da abubuwa kamar haka, bai zama da daraja sosai ba kasancewar bashi kyauta ba.
Kasancewa mai hankali idan kuna neman aikin harma yana sanya kuna son tsallakewa zuwa Windows.
Akan me kake magana? idan kwayar Linux tana ko'ina? a gaskiya ina ganin ita ce kwayar da akafi amfani da ita a yau.
Yana kan kowace wayar android ko kwamfutar hannu, yana kan sabobin, akan manyan kwamfyutoci, a kan na'urori (misali Samsung ecosonogram na yana amfani da Linux 3.x kernel), microsatellites, kowace na'ura mai Rasberi Pi. Me yasa kuke tunanin Microsoft yana da tsarin tsarin Linux akan Windows 10? Ba ma maganar cewa Microsoft na da kujera a Gidauniyar Linux (Azure).
Kernel na Linux baya ne kawai a kan tebur da allunan, amma a cikin kowane abu dokokin Linux.
Zai zama gwagwarmaya da gaske wanda kwayar HURD zata ɗauka tunda tushen software na kyauta bashi da tsayayyar ra'ayi game da rufaffiyar software (wanda ke da kyau a wasu fannoni) amma duk da haka kwayar Linux wani abu ne wanda tare da wucewa akan shekaru yana kara karfi. Ni da kaina zan gwada tsarin GNU / HURD har ma na girka shi tare da bangare na GNU / Linux, amma a nan gaba kila, ba yanzu ba.
Akan me kake magana? idan kwayar Linux tana ko'ina? a gaskiya ina ganin ita ce kwayar da akafi amfani da ita a yau.
Yana kan kowace wayar android ko kwamfutar hannu, yana kan sabobin, akan manyan kwamfyutoci, a kan na'urori (misali Samsung ecosonogram na yana amfani da Linux 3.x kernel), microsatellites, kowace na'ura mai Rasberi Pi. Me yasa kuke tunanin Microsoft yana da tsarin tsarin Linux akan Windows 10? Ba ma maganar cewa Microsoft na da kujera a Gidauniyar Linux (Azure).
Kernel na Linux baya ne kawai a kan tebur da allunan, amma a cikin kowane abu dokokin Linux.
Yi haƙuri, wannan bayanin ya kasance ga wani mai amfani, derp
Da kyau, na isa wuyan Torvalds, kuma kamar yadda na fada a cikin wani shafin yanar gizon, wata rana zan rufe Kernel in ba komai ga Google, ko kuma ga wani kamfani, lokacin da nake da PC ɗin ajiya, zan yi rikici tare da Hurd Kernel
Idan Torvalds na son rufe kwaron, to dole ne ya sami izinin duk waɗanda suka ba da gudummawa ga ci gabanta, wani abu da ba zai yuwu ba 😛.
Kamar yadda duniya take, a ƙarshe mutane da kuɗi suna yin abin da suke so.
In bahaka ba, lura cewa idan don "abin da ya kamata ya kasance" Linux bai kamata ya sami lambar mallaka ba kuma duba shi.
Debian ta sanar a cikin kwanakin ta cewa ita ma za ta saki sigar tare da HURD.
Kamar yana da siga tare da Linux, wani FreeBSD, (kamar yadda Rafiki ya nuna a sama), (KfreeBSD) da dai sauransu. yana da sigar (ba mai karko ba) tare da KUNAN HURD na aƙalla shekaru biyu. Kuna iya zazzage ".iso" kuma gwada shi a cikin akwatin kama-da-wane, misali. Ko yi "daidaitaccen" shigarwa akan ainihin kayan aikin.
Lokaci na karshe da nayi, suna da kusan rabin fakitin da ake dasu don Debian-GNU-Linux da aka shigo dasu.
Misali, bayan girka tsarin tushe, zaka iya shigar da sabar zane mai hoto tare da Openbox ko IceWM. Daga LXDE idan ba komai ba, kusan. Na Gnome da KDE ba zan iya cewa ba.
Duk wanda ke amfani da Debian a kai a kai ba zai sami matsala yin shigarwar gwaji don haɗa kai da shi ba.
Shin wani ya gwada KISA? Ina son wani yayi tsokaci idan mai sauri ne, mai aiki ne ko mai ƙarfi ne. Ko aƙalla idan yana da daraja (babu laifi).
Ina goyon bayan Tux a yanzu.
Na fahimci cewa kwaya ce ta GNU, amma tambayata ita ce idan tana da wata fa'ida da za a iya ganewa a garemu mu mutane waɗanda ke da sha'awar yin amfani da rarrabawa don bincike, aikin injiniya na ofis, shirye-shirye, gyaran bidiyo / bidiyo, da sauransu. ba a auna mu da haka ta yaya aka gina distro?
Abubuwa biyu:
1. Hurd kwaya ce. Tunda yana daga cikin GNU, faɗin GNU / Hurd ba daidai bane, kamar yadda faɗin Hurd ba daidai bane. GNU ne, saboda wannan shine sunan tsarin.
2. A taron Stallman da na halarta, anyi muku daidai wannan tambayar. Yana cewa zai so amma cewa babu buƙatar shirin kyauta don maye gurbin kyauta. Wannan shine dalilin da yasa haɓaka Hurd baya cikin jerin fifiko na FSF.
Idan muna magana ne kawai game da kwaya, daidai sunan zai zama kawai Hurd, bashi da wani suna kuma ba tsari bane, saboda haka baza'a iya kiran sa GNU ba.
A bayyane yake, cikakken tsarin shine GNU, amma tunda yana yiwuwa a yi amfani da GNU tare da kwaya daban, ya zama dole a bambance su ta wata hanya kuma fiye da wannan a cikin mahallin da ake magana da kernel daban-daban a lokaci guda kuma hanya mafi kyau ita ce a saka shi a matsayin «System / Kernel », Wato, GNU / Hurd, GNU / Linux, GNU / KFreeBSD, da dai sauransu.
Idan ba haka ba, da babu yadda za a yi a fahimci juna XD
Ya yi kiliya.
Amma wani ya faranta rai ya ce a cikin waɗanne abubuwa Hurd ya wuce Linux, saboda saboda matsalolin sararin samaniya ba zan iya tabbatar da hakan ba 🙁.
Menene ƙari, wani (wanda ya gwada shi) yakamata yayi rubutu game da Hurd.
Zan iya yin hakan a cikin 'yan makonni masu zuwa, amma ban da ilimin da zan iya bayyana shi.
Kamar yadda na sani Hurd baya doke Linux kwata-kwata. Yana da wuyar warwarewa don gyara. Kuna iya yanke shawara ta hanyar karanta bayanai game da dunƙulen halittu guda biyu da kuma ƙananan ƙwayoyin cuta:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BAcleo_monol%C3%ADtico
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micron%C3%BAcleo
Daga abin da na gani akwai rikice-rikice da yawa game da shi, saboda waɗanda ke haɓaka hurd ba su ƙirƙirar wani tsarin kyauta ba kuma suna barin gnu shi kaɗai tare da linzamin kwamfuta, wataƙila shi ne cewa hurd bai dace da gnu ba kuma ba su gane shi ba.
GNU aiki ne don ƙirƙira da haɓaka tsarin aiki wanda FSF (Free Software Foundation) suka kirkira kuma suka kafa shi, kuma shine, kwayarsa, kwayarsa, zata kasance daga farkon wannan abin da ake kira HURD wanda aka kafa a kan micro-core tare da sabobin.
Linux wani ƙari ne daga baya wanda ya sami karɓuwa sosai, yana da kwaya ta "macro" wacce ba ta FSF ba, abin da ya faru shine mahaliccin ta Linus Torvals ya mallake ta da lasisin GPL da FSF ta ƙirƙira don ya kasance a buɗe kuma kyauta, kuma an gina ta ne ta hanyar gudummawa daga wata al'umma.
Nasarar Linux ta haifar da ƙirƙirar GNU / LINUX, kamar duk abin da ke tushe ko ƙirƙirar duniyar buɗe da kyauta.
Amma ci gaban GNU / HURD ba ya haifar da wata matsala, ko haɗari ga GNU / LINUX, inda ruhinta yake: zaɓi da yawa, yanci da yawa.
Idan ka kara karantawa ba za ka yi wadannan kuskuren na tunanin cewa ci gaban HURD ba shi da amfani ga GNU / LINUX. Ko kuma abin da ya fi muni: a ce sun sadaukar da kansu don ƙirƙirar wani tsari ban da GNU, lokacin da aikin GNU ya samo asali daga GNU / HURD.
GNU ya zama kusan kowane rarrabawa da ci gaba wanda ke kula da ruhun GPL (Ina faɗi ruhu, saboda mun san cewa ba duk rarraba ake ba 100% kyauta kuma a buɗe) kuma sun dogara ne akan Non-Unix (hehe), ma'ana, muna kira GNU zuwa GPL ruhun ruhu.
Watau, kamar yadda FSF ba ta da ikon mallakar GNU na musamman saboda kyauta da buɗewa, al'ummomi suna haɓakawa da gina ayyukan da suka ƙare a cikin GNU; saboda haka kwayar Linux, saboda haka rashin iyaka na tsarin taga ko fuska ko zane-zane, cikakkun kwamfutoci na tebur, shirye-shirye, ci gaba, waɗanda muke haɗuwa tare da sunan GNU hade da babban kwaron Linux.
Ba tare da sanin daidai ba, na tabbata muna haɗuwa da shirye-shirye da yawa a cikin GNU, kawai saboda suna GPL kuma basa dace da juna, amma ina tsammanin za su kasance GNU da gaske lokacin da FSF suka ce su GNU ne ba don ba su ba -Unix mai jituwa da GPL.
Don haka wannan duniyar ta 'yanci (buɗewa, kofe, ci gaba) tana haifar da rikitarwa na rarrabawa, ci gaba, ginshiƙai, tebur, shirye-shirye, wanda wani lokacin ina tunanin cewa don sauƙaƙa muna cewa GNU / Linux kuma saboda ina tsammanin suma zasu sami ainihin GNU tushe na FSF.
Micro-core gine-ginen sun fi gidan gine-ginen macro-core kyau, amma ban san komai game da shi ba.
Wanene ya rubuta wannan? cike yake da kwari ... Hurd ya bunkasa ne don BSD? ana neman dakika 5 a cikin google sai ku ci karo da bayanan da ke cewa "FSF TA BUNKASA KISAN KUNGIYAR GNU"
Da zaran Hurd ya fito, zan dan yi masa 'yar tafiya, tare da GNU / Freedo (linux-libre) Ina cike da farin ciki amma ina so in raba kaina da kwayar da Mista Torvals ya kirkira wanda ban yi tare da shi ba' t yarda kan abubuwa da yawa
Ina sa ido ga kwaron Hurd 🙂
Noooooooo, Ina fata wannan mafarki ne kuma idan na farka bai zama gaskiya ba, zai zama abin kunya idan Hurd ya maye gurbin Linux, shine dalilin da yasa na tsaya. Shi ne kawai cikakken kwaya.
Ba na tsammanin Debian zai canza Linux don kernel wanda baya ma goyan bayan USB a halin yanzu. Har yanzu Hurd yana da sauran aiki mai tsawo don zuwa, kuma ci gaba yana da sauƙi.