Shigar da taken mai kararrawa anan

Ga waɗanda ba sa son karanta abubuwa da yawa: Ka karanta wannan sharhi daga Clem lefebvre daga kusan shekara guda da ta gabata akan dalilin da yasa kawai waƙoƙin hukuma 2 ne kawai a cikin fasali na 13, idan aka kwatanta da 9 a cikin na 9.

Zan nemi afuwa a gaba game da baƙar magana .. Dole ne in yiwa masu haɓaka Gnome wani mummunan rauni. GTK3 ba tabbataccen API bane. Wataƙila ya kamata a kira shi libgnome. GTK3.4 yazo da Gnome3.4, kuma bai dace da jigogin GTK3 na baya ba. Wannan yana nufin cewa duk aikace-aikacen GTK3 sun kasance marasa kyau, ba kawai tare da duk jigogin GTK2 waɗanda basa goyan bayan GTK3 (kusan duka), amma har da fewan da suke yi. Da wannan a zuciya muna da zaɓi uku:

1) Bayar da tebur tare da ɗan haɗin haɗi da aikace-aikacen da suka bambanta, dangane da API ɗin da suke amfani da shi (wanda ba shi da karɓa)
2) Rabu da dukkan aikace-aikacen GTK3 daga Mint sannan ka maye gurbinsu da tsofaffin sifofi a aikace-aikacen GTK2 ko GTK2 ko QT (wannan ya hada da aikace-aikacen Gnome, amma kuma Gdebi, Gudura da sauran su)
3) Fuck kamar mahaukaci, cire dukkan jigogi, da ɓata sa'o'i marasa yawa wa Mint-X da Mint-Z madaidaiciya goyon baya a cikin GTK "3.4", kodayake watakila zai sake fasawa cikin 3,6 ...

Mun tafi don zaɓi na 3 "wannan lokacin." Fatan wannan karamin misalin ya isa ya gamsar da masu bunkasa na uku da kar suyi amfani da GTK3. Babu wani bayanin saki ko takaddar da tayi bayani game da koma baya ko yadda za'a magance matsalar.A gaskiya ina jin cewa GTK 3.4 an kirkireshi ne don Gnome 3.4, cewa babu komai idan ya fasa abubuwa kuma bai kamata muyi hakan ba amfani dashi a wajen Gnome.

Yanzu ga waɗanda suke son karantawa da yawa:

A 'yan kwanakin da suka gabata, IgnorantGuru (Mai tsara SpaceFM, PCManFM akan masu cutar sirodin) ya aika da kasida kashi biyu kan ayyukan da dama wadanda ke kan hanya mara kyau, da yawa daga cikinsu akwai Red Hat a baya. A kashi na farko yayi magana game da al'amuran GTK. A cewarsa, dukkan matsalolin da ke tattare da ci gaban GTK da kuma tilasta wa daidaiton masu ci gaba na wakiltar kalubale ne ga wadanda suke kirkirar ingantattun manhajoji a wajen GNOME. Baya ga abin da Clem ya ambata, Glade version 3.8 shine na ƙarshe don tallafawa GTK2, kuma wannan a kan Debian ba su ma damu da yin sigar gado ba (wanda zai fito don Wheezy shine sigar 3.12)

JahilciGuru ya fuskanci waɗannan matsalolin a cikin GNOME bugzilla da Benjamin Otte (mai tsara cikakken lokaci na GTK) tare da amsoshi masu inganci cewa GTK baya ninkaya tsakanin masu haɓakawa, suna farin cikin ɓata lokacinsu don tabbatar da dacewa da jigogin da ba kasafai ake amfani da su ba, da kuma waɗanda marubutan taken suke cikin ci gaban GTK ta yarda cewa shine mafi kyau a sabunta jigogi fiye da kiyaye yanayin yadda yake, kuma bayan waɗannan shawarwarin babu lokacin dacewa ga jigogi. Emmanuele Bassi ya cika cewa Adwaita (taken GNOME na hukuma) ya canza ga kowane canji a cikin GTK, kuma GTK na canzawa lokacin da marubutan jigogi na GNOME da na Windows da MacOS suka nemi sabon buƙata.

Amma wannan tunanin ya zo ne tun da daɗewa, lokacin da har yanzu suke tunanin yadda GNOME 3. zai kasance.Ranar ta samo asali ne daga dawowa GNOME wata alama, tare da ƙwarewar mai amfani da ta bambanta da ta Windows (sandar menu da ke ƙasa) da Apple ( sandar menu a sama), da ra'ayoyi don applets da kari sun yi barazanar wannan ra'ayin. Idan ba za a iya gyara shi ba, ba za a gyara ba. Lokacin da kwari suka zo neman dawowa irin wannan, sai su rufe su da alamar WONTFIX. Wannan ya wuce gaba. 2 shekaru da suka gabata William Jon McCann ya ruwaito bug a Transmission suna roƙon cewa kada suyi amfani da gumaka a cikin yankin sanarwa don GNOME 3 saboda zasu cire tallafi. Lokacin da mai kula ya yi korafin cewa wannan na iya cutar da masu amfani da XFCE, McCann ya amsa, “Ina tsammanin za ku yanke shawara idan aikace-aikacen GNOME ne, Ubuntu, ko XFCE, kuma ban san abin da ake yi ba. XFCE, yi haƙuri. »

Kashi na biyu Labarin yana magana ne game da udisks, gvfs, udev da systemd. Da zuwan udisks2, sai aka canza layin umarni, yana karya daidaito da software da rubutun da suka dogara da udisks. Mawallafinsa David Zeuthen (ma'aikacin Red Hat) kara da cewa a cikin takardu "Ba a nufin wannan shirin ta amfani da rubutu ko wasu shirye-shirye - zaɓuɓɓuka da umarni na iya kasancewa ta hanyoyin da ba su dace ba a nan gaba koda kuwa a cikin aikin sakewa." Hon Jen Yee, mahaliccin PCManFM kayi nadamar rashin aikin udisks, polkit, consolekit, da kuma yadda suke kaura daga falsafar KISS. Dukansu PCManFM da Thunar sun dogara da gvfs API, wanda bisa ga IgnorantGuru ba a kula da shi sosai kuma yana da karko sosai. Game da udev, kwanan nan 'yan ci gaban Gentoo sun yi cokali mai yatsa (eudev) saboda udev ya fi nutsuwa da tsari, yana karya karfin aiki da tsarin da ya gabata. Linus ya riga ya bugi masu kula saboda ba sa son karɓar wasu facin da aka aiko don gyara wasu kwari.

Kuma game da tsari (wanda aka gabatar dashi azaman dogaro da GNOME), akwai ingantaccen bayani a cikin post a kan m bishara ana yin sa ne daga gare ta, wanda mahaliccin sa, Lennard Poettering ke yarda da shi.

Wannan matsayi za a kira shi "Ka'idar Maƙarƙashiya a cikin Linux", kamar yadda aka kira labarin IgnorantGuru na asali. Koyaya, Perseus ya gaya mani cewa wannan ba makirci ba ne amma zagon ƙasa ne, kuma labarin ya fi Anti-Red Hat fiye da abin da nake rubuto muku. Gaskiyar ita ce mu tambayi kanmu, yaya aikin mai zaman kansa yake kamar tsari? Ba wai kawai ina nufin 'yanci ne daga Red Hat ba, amma daga Lennart da kansa (an riga an ɗauka ɗayan ne a kan shi mahalicci ne)

Jerin manyan hanyoyin:

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2038
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/a-linux-conspiracy-theory
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/a-linux-conspiracy-theory/2
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638478
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687752
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-April/msg00314.html
https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/3685
http://udisks.freedesktop.org/docs/1.91.0/udisksctl.1.html
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1210.0/01131.html
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1210.0/01889.html
http://lwn.net/Articles/529314/
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/132gle/eli5_the_systemd_vs_initupstart_controversy/
http://sporkbox.us/blog/?r=page/108


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  1.   shakara m

    Kyakkyawan matsayi, a cikin shafukan yanar gizo da yawa duk shawarar da aka yanke tare da ubuntu an auka mata kuma an aikata laifi a kyauta, ba tare da shafa ɗan abu kaɗan ba kuma shiga don bincika neman ƙarin bayani game da dalilin da yasa ake yanke waɗannan shawarwarin. Lokacin da ku a matsayin kamfani mai mahimmanci ku tabbatar da ingancin samfurin da kuka haɓaka, ta wata hanya ba zaku iya dogaro da son zuciyar mai ƙira ba wanda ba ya la'akari da ci gaban ku ko gudummawar da aka ba da kunshin da aka faɗi, lokutan da ajalin da ku kamfani kuke da abokan ciniki, ko abin da ya fi muni, ya dogara da shawarar da gasar ku ta yanke (jar hular). A ƙarshen rana duk software da Canonical ta haɓaka ana lasisi a ƙarƙashin lasisi na kyauta, ga kuma ga kowane mutum ko sun yanke shawarar amfani da shi ko a'a.

    1.    DanielC m

      Na sanya tsokacina kafin karanta naku. Kuma kodayake ni ba ɗan kishin Canonical bane, amma na fahimci cewa kalmar "jakin ba ta da ƙarfi, sandunan sun sa ta" sanda.

  2.   DanielC m

    Zan lakaba shi fiye ko lessasa:
    Shin Ubuntu an rufe? Gano yadda Gnome yake! »

  3.   TUDZ m

    Labari mai ban sha'awa.

  4.   xunilinuX m

    Ufff ... alhamdulillahi na canza zuwa KDE wanda ke amfani da QT, don haka na nisanci dukkan sharrin Gnome / GTK haha

    -Bayan ra'ayi ne na kashin kaina kuma ina neman afuwa a gaba idan kowa yayi laifi-

    Gaskiyar ita ce Gnome TO ME ya zama abin kunya ga duniyar Linux, tare da ɗora wa mai amfani wanda ya zo daga babban Gnome 2 canjin ba zato ba tsammani da kuma sake koyar da hanyar da yake hulɗa tare da tebur ɗin tebur.
    Baya ga rashin iya canza kamannin saboda 'yan Gnome maza sun yi imanin cewa taken su duka tare da tsofaffin gumakan da suka zo daga Gnome 2 suna da cikakken haɗuwa ...
    Abin farin ciki akwai wasu zaɓi a cikin Linux, sa'a cewa akwai ayyuka kamar KDE.

    1.    Joules m

      Hakanan kuna da madadin Unity.

      1.    Esteban Ayyuka m

        Zo yanzu…

  5.   kunun 92 m

    Na yi imani da gaske cewa idan ubuntu a nan gaba, hadin kai zai wuce zuwa qt, gtk3 zai yi wuya sosai, har ma an yi amfani da muhimman aikace-aikace, gimp, libreoffice, chrome, Firefox, blender….

    1.    Martin m

      Na yarda; Ina tsammanin me yasa Shuttleworth koyaushe yake son Qt fiye da GTK kuma me yasa Ubuntu suka zaɓi wannan hanyar a yau ana samun su a cikin labarin. Sannan Canonical zai yanke hukunci wanda baya gamsar da kowa; amma sitiyari yana da tushe mai tushe.

  6.   kennatj m

    To wannan shine dalilin da ya sa koyaushe yana da kyau a ga bangarorin 2 na tsabar kudin ...

  7.   Martin m

    Lokaci zuwa lokaci magana ce. Canonical ya ga wannan tun kafin mu samu; amma tabbas, tun daga wannan an zama laifi, gami da daga Red Hat wanda ya daɗe da gaskanta cewa GNOME nasu ne kuma yana yin abin da suka ga dama, ba tare da wata jagora ba.

    Idan wannan ya ci gaba, GNOME yana da ƙarshen da ba makawa; za a sami cokula masu yatsotsi, amma ba duk don adana tsohuwar GNOME 2 ba, amma don adana GNOME daga ƙa'idodin masu haɓaka ta.

  8.   rolo m

    MMM… Na riga na karanta wannan sakon akan esdebian

  9.   nisanta m

    Lennard wanda ke bayar da shawarwari saboda tsari shine abin al'ajabi mara gashi, kuma yana afkawa duk wanda ya kushe shi har lahira, na karanta tattaunawa akan jerin aika sakonnin debian dan lokaci da suka wuce kuma anyi harbe-harbe da soka.

    1.    diazepam m

      a nan kuna da shi. Lennard baya shiga amma yayi John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

      http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/threads.html#00328

      1.    kari m

        Fuck, kuma duk inda na samu Matthias Klumpp .. mutumin a bayan Tanglu 😛

  10.   artbgz m

    Wataƙila masu haɓaka suna cikin mummunan yanayi tare da Gnome, amma, a matsayina na mai amfani ina jin daɗin sosai da shi (ba ni kaɗai ba, mahaifina ma yana amfani da shi kuma ya same shi da kyau), don haka zan iya taya dukkan mutane murna kawai wanda ke zuwa tsayin daka don ƙirƙira da kula da wannan kyakkyawan yanayin tebur.

  11.   yayaya 22 m

    Godiya ga labarai, da fatan abubuwa za su daidaita kuma 2013 ta kasance kyakkyawan shekara ga Linux gaba ɗaya.

  12.   Ibrahim Tamayo m

    Kyakkyawan labari, wani abu ne mai rikitarwa ga waɗanda ba mu da zurfin ilimin ci gaban Linux da halayen mutane. Don haka dole ne in karanta labarin da sharhi na farko sau biyu don fahimtar inda batun yake.
    Kwarewar da nayi game da Linux ta banbanta da mutane da yawa.na amfani da ita wajen yin aikin gyara bidiyo, hotuna, cigaban yanar gizo da kuma yadda sauran suke amfani da su duba facebook, twitter da dai sauransu. KWAMFUTATA kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka ce mai shekara 7 da aiki kaɗan, lokacin da na fara amfani da Ubuntu kwamfutar ta yi aiki sosai har sai da suka sa Unity. Don haka Ubuntu ya buƙaci siffofi guda biyu waɗanda nake buƙata, yanayi mai haske don duk albarkatu na aikina ne kuma ba lallai bane a tsara su kowane watanni 6 ko kowace shekara ba saboda tsarin baya aiki kamar yadda ake tsammani. aiki bayan sabuntawa. Canji na zuwa ArchLinux shine zabin yanayi amma lokacin gwajin gnome3 da harsashin sa kuma zan iya cewa duk da cewa tana da digiri na musamman fiye da hadin kai, ba a samu hakan da kyau ba kuma yana cin dimbin albarkatun tsarin. Kammalawa.
    1.- Masu amfani da Linux suma suna da laifi don nema da yin kamar cewa kwamfutocin PEDORROS "turion, AMD Sempron, ATOM" suma suna aiki kamar yadda MAC ko Windows 8 keyi da intel i7. kuskuren an tsara shi sosai kuma an haɗa shi, ba katin bidiyo ɗinmu bane.
    2. - Kada ku kashe kuɗi don tallafawa ayyukan da ɓarna, gaskiya ne cewa da yawa basu biya windows ɗin da suke amfani da su da kuma shirye-shiryen da suke amfani da su a windows ba, amma abin da dole ne mu fahimta shine cewa mutane ko cibiyoyin da ke tallafawa waɗannan ayyukan zasu kasance kawai muryoyin da za'a ji. Abin dariya ne yadda wani kamfani yace zai ƙaddamar da aiki bisa lamuran Linux kuma kai tsaye masu tafiyar da tallafawa kayan masarufin sun fito.
    3.- Kamfanoni kamar Red Hat da Canonical suna da sabani saboda duka suna son jawo hankalin kwastomomi saboda kasuwarsu tayi ƙanƙanci cewa amfanin ɗayan yana cutar da ɗayan. "Kasuwa ta gaske itace SERVER", saboda haka dakunan gwaje-gwajen ta sune tebur inda a cewar wannan labarin RedHat da Ubuntu suna fuskantar gnome-gtk amma OpenSuse ba shi da laifi sosai wajen kula da KDE da kuma amfani da Mono ba tare da bambanci ba.
    4.- Abu mai mahimmanci shine fayilolin «hotuna, kiɗa, takardu, bidiyo». Bari mu daina damuwa da tebur da haɗuwarsu da dakunan karatu, mahimmin abu shine abin da zaku iya yi da su.

    Zan iya ɗan jin takaici idan na rasa tebur ɗina na OpenBox wanda ya biya ni kuɗi mai yawa don daidaitawa amma kuma na yarda ban ƙware ba wajen keɓancewa saboda girka akwatin manjaro a akwatin laftar 'yar uwata ya bar ni cikin gamsuwa ƙwarai duk da sukar da archbang yake yi game da manjaro menu akwatin budewa
    Gaisuwa da gafara kan tsokaci.

  13.   ɗalibar kwalejin likita m

    jar hula, jar hula ...