Tsarin vs. hankali (bude fushin daga mai amfani da Debian)

Rubutu mai zuwa fassarar sako ne na mai amfani wanda mai amfani ya kira Christopher barry bar shi LKML.ORG (kundin ajiyar akwatin imel na kernel mara izini), wanda aka yiwa take «Budaddiyar wasika zuwa duniyar Linux« (crossedetare hanya da ƙarin hanyoyin haɗin abubuwa abubuwa ne da madara ta mara kyau ta ƙara):

Menene hankali? Ba wai ina nufin abin leken asiri bane, amma menene ma'anar hankali a cikin mutane? Wannan yana da kyau sosai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence#Definitions

Ga mafi yawan mutane, waɗanda aka nada da kansu kuma masu yuwuwar yin tasiri a yau da masu tunani da ke aiki a cikin shawarar "One Linux" sun dace da ma'anar masu wayo - aƙalla ta hanyar fasaha.

Kuma sakonnin nasa tabbatattu ne:

  • Sauƙaƙe ci gaban ɗimbin yawa.
  • Bada lokutan saurin sauri.
  • Bada gine-gine a kan buƙata kuma mai fa'ida ne, mai kama da tsarin zamani.
  • Ku zo da oda da sarrafawa zuwa ƙananan tsarin da ke da kayan aiki daban-daban kamar yadda ake da su.

Duk kyawawan manufofi masu kyau. Duk a bayyane ya samo asali ne daga zurfin sha'awar bayar da gudummawa da inganta abubuwa.

Da wuya wani ya iya jayayya cewa waɗannan wayayyun mutane sunyi tunani sosai game da waɗannan batutuwan, kuma sun ba da babban ƙoƙari don warware waɗannan matsalolin. Abin takaici, maganin da suka zo dashi, kamar yadda watakila kuka riga kuka hango, shine "tsari".

Kodayake ba wani sabon abu bane, amma mummunan tasirin sa ya isa gare ni kuma dole ne in bayyana shi a fili.

Don haka menene tsarin? To, hadu da sabon Allahnka. Da alama kun kasance kuna addu'a a bagaden [idan-yana aiki-kar a taba shi] na sauki, amma ana kawar da addininku. Wannan tabbas ya riga ya faru ba tare da kun sani ba yayin sabuntawa zuwa injin ku na Linux. systemd shine masani, mai iko duka, mai gani da kuma kiyaye-meta-allahntaka. Shi ne sabon Maɗaukaki Jagora na Tsarin aiki wanda ke da burin sarrafa duk abin da zai iya - kuma ya riga ya cika isa. Abin da init zai yi kama idan ya kasance mai canzawa ne akan masu amfani da kwayar cuta. Shin [kowane geek mafarki] mai rikitarwa, mai fuskoki da yawa, ba komai, kuma mai iko sosai.

Na ji labarin tsarin 'yan shekarun da suka gabata lokacin da suka tashi sama da wasu wasu maye gurbin a cikin abin da ba zan iya tunawa ba suna ta fantsamawa a wurin. Kuma kodayake yana da ɗan ban sha'awa, ban kasance mai son amfani da shi ba, ko ɗayansu don wannan dalilin. init yayi min daidai. init ya kasance mai sauƙi da ƙarfi. Duk da yake daidaitawar tana da takamaiman bambance-bambance nata na kowane harka, galibi wadannan bambance-bambancen ne suke sanya mutum ya zabi yin amfani da wannan lamarin tun da farko, kuma ya tsaya tare da wannan distro din.(kuma ba abubuwa kamar waɗanne masu sauraro aka nufa da su ba kamar yau)]. Kayan aikin yana da mahimmanci eran da distro. Kuma sai kawai na yi wani dist-sabuntawa zuwa Jessie, kuma voila, PID 1 kwatsam ya zama tsari. Ku tafi shit.

A cikin duniyar "Daya Linux", menene yakamata distros ya kasance? Daɗewa Ba shi da mahimmanci. Kwancen archaic na girman kansa sau ɗayakuma sau da yawa haɗari] son ​​kai. Asali yanzu tambari ne kawai da tsoffin bangon waya. Saboda, bari mu fuskance shi, kawai akwai buƙatar zama “Musamman Mai Gasa” ta Musamman ga yankin Windows / Mac na ƙididdigar mutum. Hadin kai don yaki da masarautu irin na Redmond da Cupertino shine abin da ake buƙata. Bambance-bambance daban-daban da suka haifar da "dandano" na Linux daban-daban suna buƙatar tattarawa da kawo daidaito don ci gaba da dacewa don yaƙi. Um, wane yaƙi?

A gare ni, Linux tuni ta ci wannan yaƙin a cikin 1994 lokacin da na fara amfani da shi. Hakan yayi ba tare da yin harbi ba ko ƙoƙari ya zama kamar sauran tsarin aikin ba. Ya ci shikoyaushe kiyaye 1% na kasuwa] rashin ba da komai game da kasuwar. Ya ci nasara ne ta hanyar kasancewa daidai BA kamar su. Ya cinye ta ta hanyar kasancewa mai sauƙi, fahimta, kuma mai daidaitawa ya zama daidai YO ya so ya. Hakan ya samo shi ne ta hanyar kasancewa mai sauƙi, abubuwan haɗin zamani waɗanda za a iya haɗa su tare da nufin yin aiki na ainihi. Ya ci ta ne ta hanyar bin falsafancin da aka yi la'akari sosai da shi na ajiye mai amfani a cikin kujerar direba, da kuma kasancewa da 'yancin gudanar da duk abin da yake so, ba tare da shimfidawa da tsare-tsaren da ke rufe alfarwansu a cikin waɗannan abubuwan da bai kamata su taɓa ba. Ya ci shi ne ba tare da waɗancan nau'ikan "ShitKits" ɗin da suka fara bayyana a cikin zuciyar tsarin aikina ba. Ya ci nasara ne ba tare da ya kasance mai rikitarwa da rashin fahimta ba. Irin wannan rashin haske shine zuciyar Windows da Mac, kuma daidai ne abin da na ƙi game da su, kuma daidai dalilin da ya sa na zaɓi amfani da Linux a farkon lahani. systemd yana runguma todo abin da na ƙi game da Windows da Mac, da kuma yin sa da sunan "zamani" da "sauƙaƙawa" na ayyukan masu haɓaka.

Don haka me yasa mutane Mai hankali sosai que so da amfani da Linux za su so ƙirƙirar ko runguma irin wannan aljanin "Mai duka"? Babu shakka, saboda dalilai ne suke fadi, kamar yadda na ambata a farko. Amma wani bangare ina ganin rashin kwarewa ne. Bawai ina nufin karancin sa'o'in shirye-shirye bane, amma rashin lokaci ne a doron kasa. Hankali shi kaɗai baya maye gurbin gogewar rayuwa kuma, haka ne, zan faɗi shi, ba don hikima ba. Babu littafi don hikima. Aiwatar da tsarin akan distros ba abu bane mai kyau garesu a cikin dogon lokaci. Wancan, a zahiri, zai kawo ƙarshensu na ƙarshe.

Sun kasance ɓangarorin da suka fi girma fiye da rayuwa na mutanen da ke ciki. Wani ya karanta abin da Mawallafa ke faɗi game da abubuwa? Kai. Wannan mutumin yana da tabbaci cewa yana da amsoshi ga kowa. Ra'ayoyin gargajiya game da sauki da yanci launuka ne masu launi, amma ba su da ainihin wuri a cikin tsarin aiki na "zamani". Duba, kawai ya fi ku wayo ne, don haka ku shawo kansa ku koma gefe. Ya san abin da ke mafi kyau, kuma an shawo kansa. Shekarun wancan saurayin nawa? Shekaru 12 ko wani abu? Yana da fucking dick (a ra'ayina na tawali'u).

Sune na shi harkokin kasuwanci masu inuwa. Duba, zamu iya samun kuɗin siyar da abubuwa ga masu amfani da Linux idan akwai hanya mafi sauƙi da "dystro-agnostic" ta yin hakan. Fuck zaɓuɓɓukan, za su so abin da suka samu.

Wani ɓangare yana iya kasancewa yana da lahani da rauni ta yanayi. Ringayan toaya ɗaya don yin mulkin su duka, amintaccen damar zuwa gare ta zai zama abin birgewa ga waɗanda suka himmatu ga samun cikakken wayewar kan bayanan. Amincewa ba wani abu bane wanda yake da ƙarfi a jerin abubuwan da zan yarda dasu kwanakin nan.

Wani bangare shi ne imani cewa Linux Community dole ne suyi yaƙi da mulkin Windows da Mac - kamar dai kasancewar Linux ya dogara da kayar da sauran hanyoyin. Wadanda suke tunanin hakan Linux yakamata ya damu da wawaye da HOYGANs ya kamata su koma ga Macs da Windows dinsu, su daina kokarin "gyara" Linux. Ba ta karye ba, tir da shi!

Bangare - kuma wannan shine abin da ba zan iya yarda da shi ba - rashi ne mara kyau da rashin girmamawa - walau da gangan ko a'a - ga mahimman ƙa'idodin * NIX. Rashin kulawa ne a gare su, da kuma taka ƙimar da ni kaina na ɗauka a matsayin [tsufa,] gaskiya ne kuma mai gaskiya, kuma ba ni kaɗai a nan ba. systemd shine ainihin akasin abin da * NIX ke nufi. Kuma ni ma ban yi magana game da daidaitawar POSIX ba. Falsafar wauta ce.

systemd juyin mulki ne. Yana da ɗan ɓarna da ɓarna da aka tsara don halakar da Linux kamar yadda muka san shi, wanda jama'a suka ɗora mana. mun-san-shi-mafi alheri-da ku Damara. Kuma ba su fahimci shi sosai kamar yadda ya kamata. systemd baya nuna inda ya kamata ya dosa. Ba ya goyon bayan 'yanci. Ba ya ƙarfafa zabin. Bai nuna nuna gaskiya ba. Ba ya rungumi sauki. Controlauki iko kuma tilasta ku ku ba shi. Yana sanya aikace-aikace da manyan abubuwan haɗin tsarin dogaro da shi, kuma bazai iya aiki ba tare da shi ba. Kuna samun saurin ne ta hanyar jan hankali a cikin wawayen mahaukatan ko malalata ko kuma masu kirkirar azanci tare da alƙawarin sauƙaƙa rayuwarsu. Fadawa cikin wannan hanyar tunani shine watsi da babban haɗarin da tsarin yake wakilta.

Debian koyaushe tana riƙe da layin adawa da irin wannan abu a baya, kuma koyaushe yana samun babbar girmamawa da aminci ga mutuncin ta. Shawarwarin Debian a nan an tilasta shi. Debian yayi babban kuskure da tsorolokacin da Tagliamonte bai soke burin Garbee ba], kuma suna buƙatar gyara tafarkin su nan da nan. Hada systemd ba abu ne mai sauki ba, kuma lallai ba kyakkyawan tunani bane [(kuma a'a, ban yi imani da kowane dalili na Russ Albery ba)]. Dole ne Debian ta ƙi tsarin da ire-irenta, kuma ta koma ga ƙa'idodin da suka jagoranci Linux zuwa wannan matsayi a cikin tarihi, jagoranci ba a cikin ƙaramin yanki ta Debian ba. Dole ne su saki GNOME da kyau kuma a bayyane, ba tare da la'akari da yadda yake da zafi da damuwa a cikin ɗan gajeren lokaci, kuma su mai da hankali kan mahimman mahimmancin sauki da yanci. Sanya tsari da kundin sa a cikin wuraren ajiya ba-free inda suke idan babu zabi. Bari mai amfani ya yanke shawara idan wannan shine abin da suke so. Fadakarwa shine kyakkyawan zaɓi don tsoho tebur wannan bashi da kumburin GNOME. Kuma ga shugabannin Debian - bayan shekaru 20 na biyayya da wa'azin bishara, kun bata min rai da kowa. Suna buƙatar samun ƙwai biyu masu banƙyama kuma suyi abin da ke daidai a nan da yanzu.

Aika waɗancan masu neman damar zuwa lahira!

NONO. Gidauniyar Linux. freeesktop.org, [Figueredo] da sauransu. Dukansuhannun barayi daga farko har karshe] ƙungiyoyi tare da ajanda. Su ba waɗanda suka yi imani da 'yanci ba ne. Sun yi imani da sarrafawa kuma daidaitawa. Sun yi imani da ƙyashi. Su waye wadannan mutanen? Wanene waɗannan masu kula da kansu na harshen wuta ta Linux? (ganganci da kuma subliminal reference to malware) Menene ainihin ajanda? Wanene ke ba da kuɗin waɗannan mutane? Me yasa suke son tashin hankali don kawar da zuciyar Linux daga ainihin falsafar sa? Ka bar su su je su kirkiro nasu "mai gasa" ga Windows da Mac. Idan sun yi, zai zama daidai ne, bin diddigin masu amfani, shiryayyar bayan gida wanda Windows da Mac suka zama. BASU yi magana a wurina ba kuma bai kamata ku bar su suyi magana a madadinku ba.

systemd Trojan ne. systemd shine jellyfish. systemd Substance D. tsarin yana da ban tsoro - ba wai kawai saboda kayan aikin sa suna tsotsewa ba, ko kuma saboda ƙwallan ƙwallon gashi mai jini a jika ne - amma saboda tsarin gine-ginen yana da ƙarfi mai ƙarfi. Muna buƙatar haɗa baki mu kore shi daga hanya saboda zai mallaki Linux, kuma ta hanyar faɗaɗa mana da freedancinmu. tsarin zai kasance Linux Zauna ka yi biris da wannan gaskiyar haɗarinmu.

A Linux == Zaɓin Zaɓi.


Lennart tabbas ya hau layi shit da dariya da irin wannan fadan. A gefe guda kuma Martin Gräßlin ya sanar da cewa kwin en Wayland zai dogara ne akan logind.

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    1.    Manual na Source m

      A ɗan lokacin da ya gabata mai sharhin farko wanda ya ci nasara tare da duk kuɗin da aka biya zuwa kwandon shara ya fito. Duk da yake ina nan kusa zan buga banhammer sosai. Batanci na zagi da / ko ba tare da jayayya ba kai tsaye zuwa lahira, koda kuwa sun sa ni fusata hakan don takunkumi da irin wannan. Yana da kyau cewa harshen wuta ya nishadantar amma "komai da ma'auni" ...

      1.    x11 tafe11x m

        hahaha xD, Na ganta: v, hujjarsa ba ta da kyau ko kaɗan, amma ya tafi ciyawa lokacin da ya keɓance xD

      2.    diazepam m

        Wellv kawai ya sake farfado dashi kuma ya bashi amsa.

        1.    Manual na Source m

          HAHAHAHAJAJAJAJA, yakamata ya kasance, duba idan kuna son ɓata lokaci cikin tattaunawa mara ma'ana. To, idan haka ne abin da yake so, na wanke hannuwana in bashi banhammer, daga yanzu na shirya popcorn kaina da kaina ina kallon ... http://i.imgur.com/YcJ0XpY.jpg

        2.    kari m

          Babu wani abu da ba daidai ba tare da wannan sharhin, ra'ayi ne mai sauƙi game da ban san wace jaka ba ... XDD

    2.    yukiteru m

      Wannan @tete duk mahaukaci ne 😀

      A hanyar tuni na sami tsarina kyauta daga Consolekit, Policykit, kuma tare da adaidaita sahu ba tare da matsala ba 🙂

      1.    x11 tafe11x m

        Yayi kyau! Gentoo xD ya zama mai ban sha'awa

      2.    mai bin hanya m

        Umm ban sani ba game da shari'arku ta musamman, amma tsarina ya ba ni matsaloli masu yawa, musamman tare da PAM, zan ɗan jira kaɗan in canza, a yanzu, kamar yadda ni ma nake amfani da BSDs, na fi son amfani da OpenRC.

      3.    x11 tafe11x m

        @roader, yuki yana amfani da OpenRC ba tare da Consolekit ko Policykit ba

      4.    yukiteru m

        @ waje, Ba na son tsarin, na kasance tare da OpenRC saboda kawai abin da nake buƙata, tare da kasancewa mai sauƙin sarrafawa. A * Kits ɗin da na goge daga tsarina, kuma adaidaita sahu nake yi ta amfani da udevil na Jahilci kuma yana tafiya daidai. Game da PAM, ana iya kawar da wannan, a cikin Gentoo kuna da wannan damar, ban san yadda zai kasance a cikin BSD ba.

  1.   gorlok m

    Na karanta shi, kuma gabaɗaya na yarda da abin da ya ce. Kodayake irin wannan imel ɗin a cikin jerin kernel ... zai zama kamar dai kawai yana neman yin wuta ne. Amma kamar yadda na fada a baya, wannan ba yana nufin cewa ya ambaci maki da dama masu inganci ba, amma ban yi tsammanin wurin ne ba (a ganina).

    Yana da kyau a faɗi cewa kwana uku da suka gabata na yi tweet wanda ya ce: «gnome, pulseaudio da systemd suna da wani abu iri ɗaya: hanyar rashin farin ciki da suke hulɗa tare da (t) jama'ar #Linux: - /» https://twitter.com/gorlok/status/500413760595849216

    Ya kasance game da rikice-rikicen waɗannan ayyukan, musamman masu haɓakawa / shugabanninsu, yadda suka yi ma'amala da al'umma, tare da ci gaba da rikice-rikice. A bayyane yake cewa bashi yiwuwa a sanya kowa cikin farin ciki, a kowane lokaci, kuma a lokaci guda a cimma burin. Babu wata dabara don aikin barin kowane mai farin ciki da raira waƙar Kumbaya, amma daga can zuwa ci gaba da rikice-rikice da rikice-rikice da ke faruwa a cikin waɗannan ayyukan misalai 3, akwai faɗi.

    Musamman tare da tsari, duk da rikice-rikice da falsafar zane, yana aiki, kuma yana warware matsaloli da yawa na gaske da gaggawa waɗanda ake buƙatar warware su. Shin mafificin mafita? Ina shakka shi. Wannan shine dalilin da yasa ta sami sarari duk da rikice-rikice. Ba tare da wata shakka ba, akwai wuri don sauran ayyukan da za su maye gurbinsu. Wannan shine dalilin da ya sa yana da mahimmanci a rage masu dogaro da tsarin (ko pulseaudio don wani misali), kuma a cikin wannan na yarda da mai amfani, don haka sauƙaƙa wannan hanyar da babu shakka za a yi tafiya a ƙarshe. Sauran madaidaiciyar madadin ga tsarin an fara ... wanda kuma ba tare da tambaya ko rikici ba, kusan kusan iri ɗaya ne.

    A gefe guda ... waɗannan rikice-rikice ba su da mahimmanci, sun fi al'ada fiye da banda. Ya kasance koyaushe kuma zai kasance. Yana da kyau a faɗi lokuta da yawa na tarihi tare da GCC, alal misali, waɗanda suka samar da wasu ayyuka ta hanyar gwada wasu hanyoyi, wanda a ƙarshe ya wadatar da al'umma.

    Na yi tsammanin ƙarshe wani aikin zai karɓe a nan shi ma, sai dai in tsarin ƙarshe ya yi aiki ta hanyar tambayoyinsa kuma ya warware su. A yanzu ... abin ne, kuma ina tsammanin mutane da yawa sun fahimce shi haka, yayin da suka fi so su sadaukar da ƙoƙarinsu ga wasu al'amuran gaggawa.

    1.    yukiteru m

      Ma'anar ita ce cewa akwai tambayoyi da matsaloli da yawa game da tsari wanda Leannart bai damu da warware shi ba duk da cewa suna tilastawa a wasu lokuta, ko kuma kawai ana ɓoye su ta hanyar yin gyare-gyare marasa kyau ga software da ke da alaƙa da tsari (Kay case). Tuni dandalin ya fara magana game da batun kuma na sanya tebur wasu abubuwan da yakamata in faru tare da tsari da kwari waɗanda ba sa neman mafita (a yanzu).

      link: http://foro.desdelinux.net/viewtopic.php?pid=21896#p21896

      1.    mai bin hanya m

        Yana tunatar da ni game da OpenSSL ...

      2.    yukiteru m

        Shari'ar ta fi ko similarasa kwatankwacin ta a ƙalla. Abu kamar haka: «Bari muyi layuka da yawa na lambobi, kar muyi tsokaci akansu, kar a rubuta su, duk da haka babu wanda ya bincika lambar da kyau, kuma idan kuskure ya bayyana, da kyau zamu ga abin da muke yi da shi»

  2.   Andrélo m

    Ga Linux, babu abin da ya dace da su, idan kowane distro yayi abin da aka rera shi, suna tattauna abin da ba daidai ba, wannan rarrabuwa da kuma cewa teku a cikin mota, kuma idan sun haɗa shi shi ne sun ƙwace 'yanci, idan ba su yi ba kamar shi suna jin jaki da shirin ...

    1.    kari m

      Ban yi tsammanin sakewa daga Windosero ba? (Ban ma sani ba idan ana amfani da wannan kalmar sosai). Masu amfani da Windows da Mac sun saba amfani da abin da suka fada, EE ko YES. Wannan bai taɓa faruwa da GNU / Linux ba, shi ya sa duk wannan fushin, kuma ku yarda da ni ba saboda rashin shirye-shirye, ko jakuna ba.

  3.   KZKG ^ Gaara m

    Na yarda a fannoni da yawa na abin da aka tattauna a nan.

    Na yi kewa tare da kewar waɗannan kwanakin Arch lokacin da ban KASANCE da tsari ba, lokacin da rc.conf ya wanzu da sauransu, saboda 90% na tsarin tsarina an ƙayyade a cikin wannan fayil ɗin.

    A wasu distros (kamar Debian) ba haka bane, ba duka aka tattara su a cikin fayil guda ba, amma ban damu ba, init yayi min dadi, na fahimce shi sosai, Na san yadda yake aiki da yadda ake sa shi yayi aiki yadda nakeso, , rcconf, da dai sauransu

    Yanzu tare da tsari ... bari mu faɗi abu na farko shi ne cewa ya bambanta. mujallar, systemctl, da sauran kayan aikin, a, suna da damar yin hakan amma ina ci gaba da tambayar kaina, shin wannan canjin ya zama dole ne da gaske? U_U… Na san amsa ta, za ku san na ku.

    Ba na nadamar amfani da tsari a kan Arch yanzu (da kyau, ba wai zan iya ko ba zan yi nadama ba ... ko amfani da shi, ko kuma na manta Arch), amma ina fata da ta kasance in ba haka ba.

    Labari mai kyau. Ba na raba matsanancin ra'ayi »na yaƙi da SystemD, amma na yarda cewa sauƙin gaskiyar cewa tsarin shi ne“ zobe ɗaya don ya mallake su duka ”ba shine mafi kyawun zaɓi ba, bai kamata ya zama gama gari ba kuma yanzu duk masu rikitarwa suna ɗaukar wannan falsafar ... da kyau, waɗanda suka ga Ubangijin Zobe sun riga sun san yadda kalmar take ƙare 😉

    1.    mai bin hanya m

      Kullum kuna iya amfani da wani initmanager, ba haka ba ne mai wahala, abin kawai shine cewa dole ne a sauke rubutun init (ko a rubuta) da kanku.

    2.    Alberto cardona m

      Baƙon rc.conf, ban fahimci tsarin ba, shine dalilin da ya sa na baro Arch, kar ku saba da shi, hayaniya ce ta gaske 🙁

      1.    Alberto cardona m

        Gracias!
        gaisuwa

  4.   maras wuya m

    Da kyau, ba tare da niyyar yin laifi ba, a gare ni wata matsala ce mara kyau. Akwai 'yan tambayoyin fasaha kaɗan, kuma marubucin yana da fifiko sosai don jin na musamman. A ra'ayina, daidaitattun sassan tsarin bai zama mini mummunan ba.

    1.    diazepam m

      gyara: Da alama a gare ni wasika ce mara kyau.

    2.    Nano m

      A farkon labarin an kayyade cewa ba labarin marubuci bane amma fassarar wasika kyauta a cikin jerin Kernel ... da alama ba kyau cewa anyi sharhi ne kawai saboda.

  5.   yukiteru m

    Wannan yaƙin zai daɗe, tambaya ita ce shin wannan zai haifar da daɗaɗaɗaɗɗiyar fa'ida don duk ɓatarwa (Ringaura don sarrafa su duka) ko kuma wani zai sami wayewa don yin sabon tsari tare da haɓaka fasaha da ƙira game da halin yanzu init, wannan wani abu ne wanda ya rage a gani.

    Da kaina, ni da kaina nayi amfani da tsari na tsawon shekaru (Archlinux da Debian Testing, kuma ina da mashinan masarufi da wannan init) kuma dole ne in faɗi cewa a lokuta da dama ya kasance alheri ne kuma a kan wasu fuskokin shaidan suna tursasa ku kamar gwargwadon iko. Bakon kwari da ma wasu masu matukar hatsari, dogaro da madaukai a cikin aiyuka, a takaice, abubuwan da suke tare da wata software wacce ba ta daidaita yadda yakamata ba kuma hakan kuma yana tare da tsarin shirye-shirye wanda ba sabon abu bane.

    Ga sashin ci gaba, ina karanta lambar tsarin, don ganin yadda aka rubuta da kuma tsokaci kuma a rayuwata na ga wani abin da ya fi ban tsoro, sai dai watakila, ga Duniyar Barka da Sallah da suka aiko ku ku yi a ajinku na farko shirye-shirye.

  6.   Raul m

    Da kyau, a matsayin harshen wuta, yana da kyau sosai. Amma game da labarin zan bayyana ra'ayi na:
    Init yayi tsufa Me ya sa? Duk ayyukan da dole ne ku yi a cikin zare ɗaya (Ina tsammanin kowa yana son abubuwa suyi sauri kuma suyi amfani da waɗannan na'urori masu yawa da muke dasu a cikin kwamfutocinmu). Ba ya ba da damar dogaro tsakanin tsari don kada su fara idan wasu ba su ba (sai dai idan mun bincika tare da umarnin ps, amma wannan yana kama da wargi). Ga masu amfani da ke cikin fushin cewa su ba masu haɓakawa bane ko masu kula da fakitin rarrabawa, ku gaya musu cewa idan mu masu kula ne da haɓakawa, waɗannan hanyoyin a farkon (upstart, systemd, ...) suna bamu rai don samun damar sa abubuwa suyi aiki cikin sauki , Musamman a cikin rarrabawa kamar Debian cewa lokacin da kuka girka kunshin komai ya riga ya fara aiki (kun girka Apache kuma daga wannan lokacin an riga an fara kuma koyaushe zai). Abubuwan da ke da init na iya zama da sauƙi, amma akwai batun da ba zai ba ku mafita ba (karba yana da kyau kuma yana da sauƙi, amma ban ga yawancin ma'aikata suna amfani da tara don haƙa ramuka a cikin kwalta ba) . Don haka, ya zama dole ayi amfani da tsarin zamani fiye da Init. Wanne za a zaba? An riga an yi ta muhawara idan SystemD, idan an tashi, idan Init madadin (yanzu ban tuna abin da ake kira wasu maganganu tare da vr ko hr ba), Na yi amfani da matakin da ya isa in faɗi cewa yana da kore sosai don bukatun masu haɓakawa kuma abin da na tsine wa sau dubu da daya. Tare da farawa ban sami farin cikin iya taɓa shi sosai ba, amma idan rarrabawa da yawa (Arch, Fedora, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu).) Sun zaɓe shi, zai zama wani abu, dama? Daga abin da na gani yana iya zama da ɗan rikitarwa don amfani (ba da alama yana da rikitarwa da yawa ba), amma ba wani abu bane da yakamata masu amfani da Linux su damu da shi. Kuma idan kun kasance mai haɓaka / mai kulawa / sysadmin, da kyau, hey, a cikin lissafi koyaushe kuna sake yin amfani da abubuwan koyo kuma koya; Abin da ke da kyau jiya, a yau ba ya biyan buƙatu kuma dole ne ku canza don ingantawa. Game da ko a rufe yake ko a'a, idan masu haɓaka SystemD rago ne kuma basa son gyara abubuwa, akwai zaɓi biyu. ko ƙirƙirar wani sabon tsarin farawa wanda ke yin abubuwan da ake buƙata ko koyon yadda tsarin ke aiki da taimakawa ci gaba.
    Kuma idan baku son shawarar Debian ba, koyaushe kuna iya gina naku distro kuma kuyi ta yadda kuke so.

    1.    x11 tafe11x m

      yallabai, Na cire hular kaina ga bayaninka

    2.    mai bin hanya m

      Ko shigar da openrc (ko wani manajan) rubutun init ɗin da kuke buƙata kuma ku gyara init = zaɓi a cikin ɓaɓɓuka. Kamar yadda mai son tsarin hakan yake. Don dalilai na amfani, yi amfani da buɗaɗɗun wuri maimakon wannan dole ne in faɗi cewa, kodayake ba a ci gaba sosai ba, ba shi da kishi, yana da tallafi don daidaitawa, ya fi dacewa. Ina so kawai ka canza tsohon kwantena don ya zama mai hankali.

      1.    raul m

        Openrc, wancan shine madadin da aka canza yayin canza Init kuma ban tuna ba. Bari mu gani, yawancin muhawarar da aka samar ta samo asali ne daga gaskiyar cewa saboda tsarin dogaro da tsarin dogaro (ina tsammanin na tuna cewa da kwaron) ya samar da cewa baza'a iya shigar dashi wasu gine-ginen ba, don haka zai zama ƙasa da kyauta. Ko da hakane, tun daga farko banyi tsammanin zai zama mai amfani sosai ba, kuma openrc ban taɓa ganin sa ba kuma ba zan iya yin sharhi ba.

      2.    Staff m

        Ba tare da kasancewa a ciki ba yana da sauƙi a faɗi abin da za a yi da wanda ba za a yi ba, a kan takarda yana da kyau ƙwarai, amma lokacin da kuka kasance a wurin da kuma sababbin KDE, GNOME, Wayland da sauran abubuwan da ke da alaƙa / dogaro da tsarin tsari sun isa a yi?

      3.    yukiteru m

        @roader, yana yiwuwa a yi amfani da OpenRC ba tare da buƙatar shigar da Consolekit ko Policykit ba

        @raul, saboda OpenRC hanya ce mai sauki, adadin lambar a ciki kasa da layuka dubu 40, idan aka kwatanta da layuka sama da dubu 400 wadanda aka tsara (kuma suke karawa), yayin da kuma yake da karancin dogaro kuma yafi tsari har ma fiye da tsari. OpenRC yana da daidaito, ana iya ɗaukar shi zuwa wasu * NIXs, yana iya iyakance albarkatu ta ayyuka, yana da haɗuwa da CGroups da SELinux (waɗannan fasalulluka guda biyu abubuwa ne kamar tutocin tsari).

        Ina amfani da shi a cikin Gentoo, kuma ba tare da amfani da daidaituwa ba yana sanya tsarin a cikin dakika 22,3 yayin da tsarin ya yi shi a cikin Debian a cikin sama da sakan 18 (ban tuna da milliseconds hehe ba) ta amfani da ayyuka iri ɗaya.

      4.    Raul m

        @ Yukiteru, matsalar da nake gani shine tare da openrc dole ne ku dafa dukkan rubutun farawa, kuma yana da bummer dole ne kuyi shi, musamman idan kuna da sabis da suka dogara da juna (misali glusterfs dole ne su fara bayan takalmin sadarwar, amma ba da daɗewa ba fiye da tsarin fayiloli), shi ya sa ba zan yi yunƙurin titanic ba don sake sake rubuta dukkan rubutun farawa don wani tsarin. Idan wanda ya ci nasara kuma tsarin tsarin ya yanke shawara, to za mu yarda da shi, wanda yake Upstart, to sai a ci gaba da shi.
        @Staff, idan wani aiki ya yanke shawarar ɗaukar hanya, ba zan iya yin komai ba face bi shi ko ɗaukar wani madadin. Gnome na ba ya son shi lokacin da na sauya zuwa Gnome3 kuma na sauya zuwa KDE. Akwai mutanen da basa son Gnome3 suma sun yanke shawarar ƙirƙirar Mate. Ban karanta lasisin SystemD ba, amma saboda karancin san LGPL 2.1 kuma abin kawai shi ne da alama yana amfani da wani abu wanda ke da lasisin mallaka, saboda haka banyi tunani ba (Na ɗan yi magana kaɗan tare da jahilcin mawuyacin halin) cewa yana da matukar wuya ga cokali mai yatsa idan lokaci ya yi da cewa komai ya dogara ne akan SystemD. Na tabbata ba za ku sami kwanciyar hankali da duk abin da kuke amfani da shi ba a cikin tebur ɗinku, amma idan akwai wani zaɓi, za ku iya maye gurbinsa, in kuwa ba haka ba, ina tsammanin za ku karɓa saboda babu abin da ya fi haka, ko?

      5.    yukiteru m

        @erone Tare da OpenRC shin dole ne ka sake rubuta rubutun farawa? Da kyau aƙalla a cikin Gentoo Ba lallai ne inyi hakan ba koda don amfani da daidaituwa, kuma idan ya cancanta ya zama dole ayi amfani da shi a wani ɓarna, haka lamarin yake kamar na Debian ko wani distro da ke ƙaura zuwa SystemD, dole ne ku sake rubuta yawancin rubutun don daidaita su zuwa PATHs a tsakanin sauran bayanan da suka zo da wannan damuwa a cikin tambaya.

  7.   desikoder m

    Da kyau, Ina tsammanin tsarin abin ban mamaki ne, na gwada shi a kan disko kamar archlinux kuma yana aiki kamar harsashi, kuma kodayake ana aiwatar da shi a cikin gwajin debian har yanzu akwai wasu tsoffin sabis waɗanda ke da rubutu a /etc/init.dy da dole za a fara da jituwa kamar "LSB", don haka a wani lokaci debian ta riga ta sanya komai zuwa tsari. Batun ba wai kawai saurin da yake bayarwa ba ne, amma tsarin gudanar da sabis an tsara shi da kyau kuma cikin tsari. A zahiri, kallon / usr / lib / systemd / system da / etc / systemd / system zaka iya yin bishiyar tunani a lokacin farawa, a zahiri na rubuta akan takarda ta jiki itace aka ɗebo daga abubuwan cikin fayiloli na systemd da a fili yake abin da ke faruwa. Misali, tsari ta hanyar tsoho yana gabatar da tsoho.target, wanda shine mahada zuwa graphical.target (koda kuwa ba a sanya mahalli mai zana hoto ba), kuma zaka iya gyara default.target ta hanyoyi 3.

    1) Saka a cikin layin kernel ƙimanta darajar manufa ta asali
    2) A / usr / lib / systemd / tsarin gyara tsoho mahada
    3) systemctl yana kunna multi -user.target || systemctl kunna graphical.target ko duk abin da kuke so ta tsohuwa. Tunda waɗannan maƙasudin suna da suna default.target a cikin ɓangaren shigarwa, shigar da su yayi daidai da ƙirƙirar hanyar haɗi zuwa madaidaicin manufa a /etc/systemd/system/default.target.

    Hakanan, ana ganin cewa masu gudanar da zaman kamar siriri, misali a karkashin archlinux, ana iya ganin an girke su tare da alias session-manager.service (ko kuma suna mai kama da haka), kuma zane-zane na manufa yana da (dogaro na zaɓi) zuwa zaman-manajan.service kuma azaman tsananin dogaro kan multi-user.target. A takaice, an gina shi sosai ...

    Na gode!

  8.   Edo m

    Kuma menene ma'anar bayan SystemD ya zo Debian? Aƙalla kamar haka ne a wurina, ina tsammanin tabbas ya sanya wannan kafin hakan ta faru.
    A gefe guda kuma SystemD ya fi kyau a duk yankuna (banda (a bayyane) a cikin abin da aka ambata a sama) fiye da sauran hanyoyin, bayan duk ra'ayi ne na abin da yake fallasa a can.

  9.   mai bin hanya m

    Bawai cewa ya kasance da wahalar canzawa zuwa OpenRC ba. Tabbas yakamata ku haɓaka layin daidaitawa (ko ɗauka kawai) ma'ana.

  10.   Staff m

    Har yanzu tare da wannan? Mutane ba su san cewa yaƙe-yaƙe ya ​​riga ya ƙare tare da tsari a matsayin mai nasara ba, saboda babu sauran masu fafatawa.
    Waɗanne ne / zaɓuɓɓukan?

    -Ka jira
    Tabbas ba haka bane.

    -Farawa, OpenRC….
    A'a, babu ɗayan zaɓuɓɓukan da ke da fa'ida ta fasaha ko al'umma da tallafin kasuwanci waɗanda tsarin ke da su, mun yi imanin cewa mahaliccin Upstart (babban abokin gaba) ya fahimci hakan kuma ya yaba da shawarar Debian na ƙaura zuwa tsarin.

    Kirkiro wani abu sabo.
    Wannan baya bukatar bayani.

    Don haka idan muna da mai nasara wanda ya bamu kyautar software ba tare da CLA ba, to bari muyi amfani da shi, idan "ringi ne don sarrafa su duka," to dole ne mu shiga ciki kuma mu nemi hanyar da duk zamuyi amfani da ringi a lokaci guda.

    1.    raul m

      Game da zobe, me ya sa ba wanda yake gunaguni game da kwaya? Hakanan kwaya ɗaya ce ta mamaye su duka, kuma babu mai kare Hurd (kuma da kyakkyawan dalili).

      1.    x11 tafe11x m

        kuma na dauki tsoro, yanzu da duk wannan "despiole" (hankali, zan yi amfani da bayanin da bai dace ba don jaddada ra'ayina) kowa ya sanya rigar BSD ... ba zato ba tsammani dukkansu masu amfani da BSD ne, kuma suna ba da shawarar cewa akwai duk software don BSD, AmigaOS, BeOS, Solaris dss ... bari mu tafi mutane ... idan kuna da damuwa game da waɗannan tsarin, aika faci don tsarin ya dace ... ko kasawa hakan, toshe aikace-aikacen da suka dogara da tsarin don dacewa da ku KAI ..

      2.    Staff m

        Daidai, akwai mummunan magana biyu.
        Idan ana amfani da waccan kwayar, to saboda babu wasu zabin da suke da irin matakin balaga, amma ba matsala, yana da lasisi na kyauta, zamu iya amfani da shi, mu shiga don yayi aiki kamar yadda muke so da kuma lokacin lokaci ya yi da za a canza shi (Abin da zai zo) zaɓi wani zaɓi (daga waɗanda ake ci gaba da haɓaka) wanda ke ci gaba da ba mu 'yanci iri ɗaya.

      3.    Staff m

        @ syeda_rukayya_11
        A cikin * BSD ba shi da sauƙi, saboda yadda yake gudanar da ayyuka.
        GUN / Linux a dabi'ance aljanna ce don wuraren aiki, faci da ƙarin faci, da yawa ba a inganta su, ba a rubuce sosai kuma hakan yana buƙatar ƙarin faci, waɗanda ke buƙatar faci, waɗanda ke buƙatar faci ...
        * Kuma a yi hattara * Bana ce ɗayan hanyoyin ya fi ɗayan kyau, sun bambanta ne kawai.

        Kamar yadda na ba da amsa ga raul, akwai daidaitattun abubuwa biyu (kuma ina ƙara rashin kulawa) a duk wannan, wanda kuma ya shafi abin da kuka ambata.
        Yawancin waɗanda suke yabawa * BDS sune irin waɗanda ke kai hari ga matsayin akida na Free Software akan abubuwa kamar direbobin mallaka kuma suna cika bakinsu suna cewa sun fi son Open Source, ba tare da ganin hakan ba misali, OpenBSD da manyan masu magana da yawun suna, aƙalla masu tsauri kamar yadda Stallman kansa da ƙasa da traktable.
        Don haka, waɗancan mutane a ƙarshen ba sa ba da gudummawa ga * BSD ko GNU, kamar yadda suke faɗa a cikin ƙwallon ƙwallon ƙwallon ƙafa: Babu pichan, ko kamawa, kuma ba sa barin jemage.

  11.   m m

    Labarin yana da kyau, kawai maimakon bayanin dalilin da yasa tsarin shine ciwon daji (wanda shine) yayi rantsuwa ba tare da bayar da bayanin dalilin da yasa tsarin yake da kyau ba.
    Abu mara kyau game da tsari shine karamin rukuni (an biya shi da kyau) wanda ke tafiyar da ci gaban sa, basa baiwa mutane kwata kwata, hakan yana canza hanyoyin da ake nunawa kamar syslog-ng tare da mujallar ... komai yana da rikitarwa a karkashin tsari.
    Haɗin kai yana da kyau, amma ga ɗaukacin al'umma suyi shi, ba jakar kuɗi mai biyan kuɗi don kasuwanci da bukatun masarauta ba.
    Sa'ar al'amarin shine gentoo da funtoo sun ce a'a, ba za a canza openrc azaman tsarin da aka saba ba, muna kuma da sa'a cewa an kirkiro udev da eudev don cire syphilis daga udev / systemd.

    $ eix - Ic eudev
    [I] sys-fs / eudev (1.9-r2@27/07/14): Linux mai kuzari da ci gaba mai suna mai goyan bayan suna (aka userspace devfs)

    $ eix -Ic budewa
    [I] sys-apps / openrc (0.12.4@20/04/14): OpenRC ke gudanar da ayyuka, farawa da rufewa na mai gida

    Bai isa ya zama mai kyau ba, dole ne ka tabbatar da shi kuma a nan ne tsarin ya fadi, abin da ya ɓace shi ne cewa sun tsara tsari, kuma sun canza shugabanninsa.

    1.    Nano m

      Saboda fassara ce ta post zuwa jerin aikawasiku na Kernel, ba ra'ayin mutum bane game da marubucin bayanin kula.

    2.    diazepam m

      Lennart ya san yadda ake torpedo eudev. Shirya don motsa udev zuwa kdbus

      http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html

      1.    yukiteru m

        Ina mamakin me yasa torpedo aikin cokali mai yatsa kamar eudev? Shin Lennart ba shi da sha'awar komai cewa wasu na iya ƙirƙirar wasu hanyoyi masu dacewa ga software ɗin da ta zo daga Red Hat?

        Tabbas wannan ba yana nufin cewa abu ne mai wuya ba, amma tabbas zai sanya abubuwa su zama masu wahala kuma ayyukan kamar eudev na iya durkushewa saboda kawai basa iya tafiya da udev / systemd / kdbus da yawan albarkatun da aka sadaukar dasu.

        Ban sani ba amma a ƙimar da za mu ɗauka a wani lokaci za mu sami layi na gaba a cikin fitowarmu: «An kafa shi a cikin Red Hat Linux OS. Duk haƙƙoƙi an adana © 20XX »

      2.    x11 tafe11x m

        Ban san yadda samari zasu warware tare da eudev ba, amma KDbus aiki ne na banki, baƙar magana ba ce a canza mahallin 2 ko 3 sau don sadarwa ta hanyar Dbus na yanzu, mahaukaci ne ...

        idan baya karkashin tsari, zai kasance a karkashin daya daga cikin abubuwan, amma KDbus bai kamata ya zama wani abu da aka dauke shi da wasa ba ...

      3.    yukiteru m

        Tabbas ma'anar ita ce Lennart zai yi duk abin da yake so tare da wannan lambar, a nan ne batun yake, Lennart da kamfani sun riga sun yi fushi da yawa tare da wuce gona da iri, kuma har ma wani lokacin Linus ya jefa ɗaya ko wani dutse don hanyar yin abubuwa .

  12.   m m

    Tabbas a can maskin ya faɗi, ba zai taɓa mamakin ikon da kuɗi yake da shi ba.
    Tunda zai shafi mutane mutane wannan jirgi mara matuki yayi ƙoƙari ya sanya kdbus a ciki, dole ne ya shawo kan Linus ya sanya wannan ruɓaɓɓen a cikin ainihin.
    Bayan haka a cikin gentoo akwai masu haɓakawa waɗanda za su iya ɗaukar canje-canje daga udev da kdbus zuwa eudev, ba su da wahala ko kaɗan idan aka yi la’akari da girman lambar udev / systemd.
    Ana buƙatar gaggawa don tsara tsari kuma ga ɗaukacin al'umma don ɗaukar shawarar yadda ake yin abubuwa.
    Abinda yafi bani haushi game da tsari shine dogaro da wani hidimtawa akan wani, wannan ikon dole ne ya zama na hannu ne, idan ka rasa iko akan abinda daemon yake aiki ko baya aiki, to ka rasa ikon tsarinka ... a wancan matakin zasu kawo shawara don cire tushe kuma shigar da hoto wanda ba za'a iya canzawa ba akan diski all .. duk suna tafiya iri ɗaya, hanya mai fa'ida idan aka sami "kuskuren kuskure" don samun ikon mallakar dukkan kwamfutocin Linux.

    1.    x11 tafe11x m

      ba ni dalilin da ya sa ba aiwatar da kdbus na da amfani ba (kuma ban ce kawo duka tsarin ba, KDbus ne kawai), abin ban dariya ne a canza mahallin 2 ko 3 sau don sadarwa ta hanyar Dbus na yanzu, mahaukaci ne ...

      1.    m m

        Ban ce cewa ba kyau a aiwatar da bas na tebur a cikin sararin kernel, abin da nake cewa shi ne cewa aiwatar da kdbus din ku (na Lennart) ba zai zama abin dogaro ba saboda za ku canza shi don dacewa da abubuwan da kuke so don zagaya sauran duniya. na proyects.
        Na riga na karanta wasu daga cikin ra'ayoyin Linus akan tsarin kuma banyi tunanin banda wawancin da zan yarda dashi ba

        Wanene ya ba Lennart damar makale masa hanci a cikin kundin tsarin? shafi tasirin syslog-ng tare da mujallarta a cikin sigar binary, mai sau # cat / var / log / sako | grep -i wani abu
        An ba da izini daga ko'ina don ganin rubutun da aka tace ba tare da amfani da wani abu wanda ba a cikin tsarin tushe ba, ya zamana cewa mujallar tana amfani da tsari na binary kuma kawai tare da jpurnald zartarwa zaka iya ganin abun ciki kuma tace shi tare da matakansa ba sauki bane .
        Ta yaya zaku iya amfani da tsari da syslog-ng ba tare da sanya joda ba? ... wannan shine dalilin da ya sa yake cutar kansa, yana yaduwa a duk sassan tsarin, yana rufewa, toshewa da soke wasu fakiti.

      2.    Emiliano m

        Rubutun binary, yana kama da Windows a wurina.

      3.    yukiteru m

        @emiliano, kuma kada ku rasa cikakken bayanin sake kunna PC ɗin idan kuna cikin tsari da ayyuka da yawa suna sabuntawa a lokaci guda, a waɗancan sha'anin ba ma yin systemctl daemon-reload ba zai cece ku daga yin cikakken sakewa zuwa tsarin ku idan kuna so ya yi aiki yadda yake. Windows? Ina?

  13.   Domingo m

    A koyaushe ina amfani da rarraba .deb saboda a wurina koyaushe sun kasance masu saukin amfani fiye da na dangin .rpm.
    Wannan sauƙin da nake ɗauka koyaushe shine farawa. Na yi rauni a ranar da na koyi cewa Debian ya zaɓi systemD

  14.   skarmiglin m

    Gaskiya lambar tushe zata kasance a wurin, sa kanka distro. Ban ga wani bayani game da abin da ke damun tsarin ba in ban da maganganun daga-waje game da wani abu na fasaha, teku na kalmomin batanci ba tare da wani bayani ba, to ban da rashin nuna gaskiya (juriya ga canji), za ku iya har yanzu amfani da BSD, shima wannan haiku os ... kuma akwai ƙarin tsarin aiki kyauta idan baku lura ba 🙂 Ina ba da shawarar haiku os. Ina so in san abin da yake shaidan ne game da wannan duka amma na shanye dukkan maganganun kuma ban ga wani abin da ya dace ba ban da wani matsayi na ilimin falsafa da aka yi daidai (na kowa a cikin debian) Ina tsammani ba za ku zama kai kaɗai ke cikin sabani ba game da wannan, ba shakka kuma sun sanya shi cikakke. Gaisuwa, zan fara damuwa lokacin da lambar tushe bata samu ba, don yanzu neeee.

    1.    yukiteru m

      A saman labarin, a sarari yake a sarari cewa wasika ce daga Debianite akan jerin lkml.org, amma ba sukar mawallafi bane (@diazepan).

  15.   Emiliano m

    Duk "matsalolin" da ke ciki suna da alaƙa da tsarin tebur, inda babu GNU / Linux. A fagen sabobin, inda GNU / Linux yake # 1, init shine mafi kyau. Idan kun ga mai amfani yana harbawa akan SystemD, tabbas tabbas saboda yana sarrafa sabar da yawa.
    Na gode.

    1.    sannu m

      Ina amfani da Linux amma ban taba sadaukar da kaina ga sanin shi a ciki ba saboda wadannan tattaunawar na sama da tsari wasu suna yi min kamar na China. Don haka na tambaya wani abu me yasa suka ce tsarin shine cutar kansa?
      nawa zai iya shafar ci gaban kwayar Linux. Shin za su iya zama abubuwan da ba za a iya raba su ba a cikin rarrabawa? godiya 🙂

    2.    lokacin3000 m

      An jefa shi saboda shine ya haifar da kwari ba tare da sanin yadda zai warware su ba. Saboda haka bacin rai.

      Kuma kamar dai hakan bai isa ba, ga wasu bayanai dalla-dalla kan dalilin da yasa Linux a hankali take kau da kai daga falsafar UNIX:

      1.- FSF ya sabawa UNIX. Sabili da haka, tun lokacin da aka ƙirƙiri kernel, FSF ita ce ta rinjayi tazararta tsakanin Unixeros.

      2.- UNIX akan sabobin an riga an gani azaman Windows XP akan kwamfutar PCs. Saboda haka, me yasa manyan kwamfyutoci suke - don mafi yawan ɓangaren - an shigar dasu tare da GNU / Linux distro.

      Ba don wadancan maki biyu ba, da masu amfani da Linux gabaɗaya sun karɓi Christopher Barry. Amma tunda mun manta cewa UNIX ba ta da wata ma'ana kamar ta da (duk da cewa dole ne a yarda da cewa ba tare da shi ba, da babu intanet ko lissafi kamar yadda muka san shi), kuma sashen kasuwanci ya dogara gaba ɗaya akan Linux ( kalli abin da ke lalata kasuwancin Kasuwancin Kasuwancin New York tare da).

    3.    yukiteru m

      Wannan shine Kay Sievers, kuma Linus ya hana shi ƙara lambar a cikin kwaya saboda ya ba da matsaloli fiye da yadda ta warware, ban da son rufe kernel debug don ɓoye kurakuran da ke cikin lambar da ya rubuta don tsarin. Rahoton asali ya kare anan:

      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935

  16.   duhu m

    A ƙarshe, zai zama kamar amfani da Windows ...

  17.   m m

    Kuma suna magana akan Rome ... kawai sun saki sabbin sifofin udev-init-scripts da openrc

    https://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-fs/udev-init-scripts
    https://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/openrc

    Ina tuna lokacin da na canza daga udev zuwa eudev, duk haɗari ne saboda dole ne ka fara cire udev sannan ka girka eudev, a halin yanzu kana aiki a cikin iska, idan wani abu ya faru ba ka da wani zaɓi sai chroot hehe.

    1.    yukiteru m

      Hahahaha idan kunyi tafiya a gefen dutsen, kyakkyawan abun shine yana da maganin chroot kuma ba wani abu ba 🙂

  18.   lokacin3000 m

    Theo de Raadt zai kasance cikin walwala da dariya a wannan wutar (kuma yana tunanin cewa LibreSSL an haife shi ne daga matsalar ci gaba da OpenSSL da rashin tasirin software kanta a shekarun baya).

    Hakanan zai iya faruwa idan SystemD zai sami sha'awar Theo da masu haɓaka OpenBSD (zasu kira shi TsarinX dangane da UNIX da dangi, bugu da kari zasu sanya shi ya dace sosai, kuma - kamar LibreSSL- tare da shafin yanar gizo tare da rubutun Comic Sans).

    Koyaya, da alama Slackware da Gentoo zasu sami ƙarin mabiya saboda godiya (da gaske, Slackware shine mafi kusancin UNIX da falsafar KISS kanta).

  19.   tsibiri m

    Littlean tsattsauran ra'ayi duk wannan sauti ne a wurina

  20.   mario m

    Zan iya gaya muku cewa lokacinku a cikin debian ya wuce, idan kuna son kiyaye al'adunku na UNIX, zaku ji daɗi sosai tare da OpenRC akan Gentoo - kuna iya girka KDE cikin kwanciyar hankali kuma ba za ku sami amsar Gnome ba. Systemd da Gnome suna tafiya kafada da kafada, zai zama ciwon kai ga facin kowane kunshin, kamar yadda nakeso ubuntu tare da tashi. A cikin debian popcon yana ci gaba da cewa ana amfani da Gnome, albarkatu suna da iyaka, kuma suna cikin beta na biyu na sakin.

  21.   sf22 m

    Shin wani zai iya bayyana mani menene tsarin kuma menene matsala tare dashi (kodayake ina tunanin inda harbi ke tafiya)? Ita ce duk da cewa ina amfani da Linux ban san ainihin ayyukan da take yi ba.

  22.   yukiteru m

    systemd shiri ne wanda yake da alhakin fara aikin ka (init) da dukkan ayyukan da zaka yi amfani dasu a kwamfutarka, daga hawa Hard Disk da kuma USB, har zuwa daemon da zai baka damar amfani da intanet, tare da rufe tsarin da wajan zaman mai amfani, tsakanin sauran abubuwa da yawa.

  23.   Xerix m

    Ba wata hanya, don nemo Kayan aikin da ke tallafawa FreeBSD da kyau 😛

  24.   Xerix m

    Wannan karya ne eliotime3000
    1. FSF bata kiyayya da UNIX. Suna kawai sha'awar inganta software kyauta. Idan AIX ko HP-UX sun kasance masu kyauta asusun zai ba da shawarar. Richard Stallman ya ce ya zabi kirkirar wani tsari mai kama da UNIX ne saboda yawan saukinsa da tsafta, duk da cewa yana da wasu suka game da hakan.
    Kuma ayyukan FSF ba su da alaƙa da rabuwar UNIX da GNU / Linux, amma dai ya samo asali ne daga tsarin ci gaban da suka gada ko suka samu. Yayin da na farko ya fi karko, ya daidaita kuma ya gwada, na biyun ya ƙunshi ayyuka da fasaloli masu sauri, ba tare da yin tsaurara matakai ba.

  25.   m m

    A cikin gentoo zaka iya samun kwayar Linux ko kuma freebsd kwaya, wannan shine babban dalilin da yasa gentoo yayi watsi da systemd, kamar yadda zaku sani, systemd yana da alaƙa da cgroups wanda kernel na Linux kawai yake da shi kuma ba unix kernels kamar freebsd ba.

    $ eix -c freebsd-tushe
    [N] sys-freebsd / freebsd-kafofin (-): FreeBSD kernel kafofin

    Kayan aikin yau yana da cikakkiyar dacewa a cikin kashi 95% na shari'o'in, wasu matsalolin kuma tare da netbook na asics ko kwakwalwan rubutu, amma gabaɗaya sauran ba matsala bane, wasu bios ɗin can tare da teburin ACPI basu gama sosai ba, amma babu abin da ba zai iya ba a gyara ta hanyar tattara kwaya ko wucewa cikin sigar siga a cikin / sauransu / tsoho / guru

  26.   ba suna m

    Shin kalmomin sun tafi tare da iska

    Kawai kalmomi ne ba tare da hujjoji ba, tabbatattun bayanai, kwatankwacin ...

    jawabi ne na falsafa

    Ina so in sami takaddun tunani a cikin duk wannan magana, amma ban sami komai ba

  27.   Tina Toledo m

    "Waɗanda ke ganin Linux ya kamata su damu da wawaye kuma HOYGANs ya kamata su koma Macs da Windows ɗinsu, su daina ƙoƙarin" gyara "Linux."
    Wannan shine mafi kyawun abin da ya sa yawancin masu amfani da Windows suka dauke mu a matsayin gwanayen jiga-jigan da ke jin kamar cibiya ta duniya ... a bangare na, Barry na iya nade karamar wasikarsa ya sanya ta a can, a wannan bangaren na jiki inda rana bata haskakawa.

  28.   kunun 92 m

    Da kyau tsarina ba ya son ni, ba ya da karko kamar yadda yake a farko, kuma gaskiyar ita ce ban damu ba idan ta kasance mai buɗewa, mai tsari, muddin pc dina ya fara da sauri.

  29.   kunun 92 m

    Tina, yawancin masu amfani sune waɗanda basu taɓa shiga wani dandalin kallon tattaunawa ba, waɗanda basu ma san da kasancewar Linux ba kuma idan suka shiga, sun san cewa akwai wani abu mai ban mamaki da launin ruwan kasa da ake kira Ubuntu. Saboda haka waɗannan tattaunawar, matsakaita mai amfani bai kai ko ganowa ba, a zahiri mafi yawan basu san yadda ake amfani da Windows da kyau ba.

  30.   Tina Toledo m

    Pandev… kun kasance daidai a duniya; mafi yawan masu amfani da Windows basa karantawa ko shiga irin wannan tattaunawar, kuma wannan shine ainihin dalilin da yasa suke da gurbataccen hoto na mai amfani da GNU / Linux. Kuma da irin waɗannan ra'ayoyin na wauta, kamar wanda Barry ya rubuta, har ma ba su da sha'awar. Wanene yake so a bi da shi kamar "wawa da Hoygan"? Wanene Christopher Barry yake tunanin kansa don ya ambaci wasu ta wannan hanyar? Don haka GNU / Linux ya kasance, shine kuma koyaushe zai kasance duniyar da ta dace da "masu wayewa" waɗanda suka fahimci fannonin fasaha da sanannun 'yanci "? Masu sauƙin amfani na yau da kullun waɗanda suke son GNU / Linux don samar da abokantaka, sauƙin amfani da hargitsi kuma mu ba mu da yawa ko ba mu da sha'awar yaren shirye-shiryen da koyarwar Stallman, shin ba mu ƙidaya saboda a cewar «Mr. Barry »muna wawaye ne?

  31.   diazepam m

    tina, pandev Lura cewa hanyar haɗin yanar gizon da na sanya a cikin ɓangaren hoygans na sanya shi a cikin mummunar hanya.

  32.   Tina Toledo m

    Sannu Diazepan. Na gode don bayani, amma na riga na lura. A zahiri, kafin yin tsokaci na karanta ainihin wasiƙar don bayyana game da abin da Barry yake ƙoƙarin faɗi kuma gaskiya ne cewa kuna kushe bayanan-ba fom ba- tare da waɗancan ƙarin abubuwan ban haushi, kuma hakika daidai ne.
    Yanayi daya ne na "madara mara kyau" da nake amfani dashi don koma menene "Malam" Christopher Barry ya bayyana kamar yadda yake so ba da gangan ba.

    Na fahimta, kamar ku Diazepan, abin da Barry ya fada tsakanin layukan kuma ni gaba ɗaya na yarda da sukar ku.

  33.   m m

    Ina tsammanin dole ne ka sanya kanka a cikin mahallin, wanene aka aika wa wasiƙar? haka ne, daga wannan Berry zuwa LKML.ORG, ma'ana, shi mai yuwuwar ci gaba ne mai amfani da shirye-shirye wanda ke magana da sauran masu ci gaba ... ba masu amfani na al'ada ba.
    GNU / Linux sun isa inda yake godiya ga masu shirye-shiryen, har yanzu masu shirye-shiryen suna haɓakawa da haɓaka duk wannan.
    Muna fuskantar tsarin aiki da shirye-shiryen da mutane suka kirkira ba kamfanoni ba, a wani kamfani manajan yace ana yin haka ne saboda nace kuma saboda haka muke biyansu, cikakkiyar tsayawa, ta yadda mai amfani ba zai taba yin sulhu da mahaliccin ba na shirin ko tsarin.
    Yanzu ga abin da ya faru a cikin GNU / Linux, masu amfani ba tare da sanin yawancin shiga tattaunawa da masu shirye-shirye ba….
    Ba na son tayar da rikici tare da wannan tsokaci, ni ma ba mai shirya shirye-shirye ba ne, kawai don in ce dole ne ka sanya kanka cikin yanayin yadda abin ya faru.

  34.   lokacin3000 m

    Ya kawo maganar sakin da aka yi masa tambaya:

    Wani ɓangare imani ne cewa Linux Community dole ne suyi yaƙi da
    mulkin Windows da Mac - kamar dai kasancewar samuwar Linux ya dogara ne
    cin nasara madadin. Waɗanda suke tunanin Linux ya kamata su yi aiki da su
    wawaye da droolers ya kamata ya koma ga Macs da Windoze boxen, kuma
    daina kokarin 'gyara' Linux. Ba fucking ya karye ba!

    Ta hanyar yiwa masu amfani da Windows alama wawaye da koma baya ya isa isa ayi la'akari da Barry a wawa da HOYGAN (Akwai da yawa waɗanda suka san yadda ake cin gajiyar Adobe suite, shirye-shiryen Autodesk {kamar su ɗakunan wasanni na bidiyo, gami da Valve da Bandai Namco}, masu salo masu amfani da SolidWorks tare da ɗab'in buga takardu na 3D da sauran masu fasaha).

    Ba tare da wata shakka ba, wannan ƙarin dalili ne guda ɗaya don kada a yi la’akari da wannan ra’ayin na fanboy cewa zai fi kyau ya yi aiki tare da Theo de Raadt kan ci gaban LibreSSL da OpenBSD.

  35.   hikari m

    Tsarin tsari ya zama yakin gumaka, wanda ya fi girma alloli muminai. Tunanin tsari bai da kyau a farko amma ga alama wani abu mai girma da rikitarwa ga tsarin kama da Unix, har yanzu yana aiki rabin (matsaloli tare da ɓarnar kwaya misali). Kodayake idan wanda ya yi bala'in pulseaudio ya shiga cikin tafarnuwa (lokaci zuwa lokaci abubuwa masu ban mamaki suna faruwa da ni tare da shi), hakan yana faruwa ba tare da yin ƙarin bayani da yawa ba. Lokacin da na fara da farkon aikin Linux bai ma kasance ba, yana da kyau kuma yana aiki.

  36.   Tina Toledo m

    Ba a sani ba:
    Yanayin wannan wasiƙar buɗewa ce da aka aika zuwa ga ɗaukacin al'umma:
    Kwanan Wata, 12 Aug 2014 15:38:12 -0400
    Daga Christopher Barry
    Jigon OT: Bude harafi zuwa Duniyar Linux

    "Yanzu ga abin da ke faruwa a GNU / Linux, masu amfani ba tare da sanin komai ba sun shiga tattaunawa da masu shirye-shirye…." daidai yake "Waɗanda suke ganin Linux ya kamata su ba wawaye wayo kuma yakamata su koma Macs da Windoze boxen, su daina ƙoƙarin 'gyara' Linux."

    Me kuke ba da shawarar da zan yi sai Anonymous? Cewa zan koma na Mac ko Windows na? A ganina wani ɓangare na ƙungiyar GNU / Linux ya ƙunshi mutane masu amfani da GNU / Linux saboda yana ba mu tsarin aiki da muke so. Wannan rukunin, wanda na kasance a ciki, mu ba masu shirye-shirye bane, kuma, kamar yadda na ke, ba mu sami shawarwarin Stallman kwata-kwata ba. Akwai masu amfani, kamar ni, waɗanda ba su damu ba kuma ba mu da sha'awar sanin idan tsarin ya keta 'yanci - Ina tsammanin Barry yana nufin waɗanda Richard Stallman ke shela, ko da yake bai faɗi haka ba - saboda mun gani a GNU / Linux a kayan aiki tare da makoma ... kodayake yadda abubuwa ke tafiya amma a ganina makomar zata kasance ba tare da GNU ba.

    1.    m m

      @Tina - An aika da wasikar ne zuwa ainihin jerin aikawasiku, an fahimci ta batun cewa ana magana da ita ne ga dukkan masu haɓaka, ko kuma aƙalla abin da na fahimta ke nan.
      An soki Systemd saboda an fara shi azaman tsarin maye gurbin init kuma ya nuna cewa yanzu yana amfani da hanyar sadarwa da dns. Kamar yadda kuka ce baku da sha'awar sanin yadda yake aiki, idan hakan zai shafe ku ku ci gaba kamar yadda yake ... tabbas hakan zai tafi zuwa ga nesa ta waje kuma masu amfani waɗanda ba su san kokwamba ba suka yarda da ita. kamar sun yi.
      Tsaro shine tushen GNU / Linux, tsaro ne wanda ba a samun damar ko sarrafa shi ba, ba tare da mai amfani ya lura ba (a cikin mafi kyawun windows da salon mac).
      Menene wanda ya san wani abu game da tsaro zaiyi tunani ta hanyar duban tsarin da yake ɗauka? gudun hanya ce ta karkatar da tsaro.
      Na riga na gaji da faɗar sa, logind, consolekit, policykit, selinux, multiseat kuma yanzu masu tsari sune Trojans don tsaron gida wanda GNU / Linux ke dashi koyaushe, daga kamfanoni da wasu ƙasashe suna biyan shugabannin wasu mahimman ayyukan sosai. juya tsaron GNU / Linux zuwa wani abu da ake iya sarrafawa…. babu wanda ya faɗi haka, na yi kuskure in faɗi shi don ganin idan sun gano sau ɗaya kuma ga duka.
      Sauran yunƙurin a waccan hanyar suna cikin kde, kdelibs nepomuk strigi da ake kira semantic desktop.
      Ba na son tsarin aikina na amintacce kawai ya lalace, amma ya zama cewa tsarin tuni yana da PID 1… kuma ya rikice tare da hanyar sadarwa da rajistar tsarin.
      Kuna iya jayayya na dogon lokaci kuma a daidaita har tsawon kwanaki, amma duba amsoshin wannan imel ɗin kuma za ku ga cewa babu wanda ya zo ya ce ba su da dalilin faɗin abin da suka faɗa.

  37.   yukiteru m

    @Tina yawancin abin da Linux take a yau, godiya ga gaskiyar cewa ra'ayoyin Stallman da wasu da yawa an bi su a hankali, waɗanda ke ba da shawara game da girmama software da 'yancin masu amfani don zaɓar abin da suke so, gwargwadon buƙatunsu, kuma hakan lamarin ba kawai a matakin mai amfani ba amma har ma a hukumomi, kimiyya da kasuwanci. Badawa da rasa waɗannan 'yanci ba kawai yana nufin barin ba tare da ikon zaɓar ba, amma kuma zai canza Linux zuwa wani abu da aka yaƙi da shi tun farko. Wancan ayyukan kamar KDE, GNOME ya dogara ne da tsari, zai sa abubuwa su zama masu wahala a cikin wannan mahallin, kuma saboda halin da ake ciki yanzu yana yiwuwa hakan ba zai kasance ba kwata-kwata, yana mai dogaro da tsari. Don kawai bada misali, FreeBSD ta girka KDE ta tsohuwa, amma idan KDE ya dogara da tsari don sanya shi aiki akan wannan tsarin to zai zama matsala tunda lambar zata zama dole sai anyi mata facin don tayi aiki, duk da haka Martin Gräßlin, ina tabbatarwa cewa zai kiyaye tsohuwar KDE don tsarin amfani da X11 kawai, don haka wannan ba zai faru ba aƙalla yanzu.

  38.   Tina Toledo m

    Kuma mafi yawan abin da Linux yake a yau - ba tare da GNU ba - an samu ta hanyar godiya ga waɗanda ba su bi koyarwar Stallman ba: Linux OS da aka fi amfani da ita a duniya ita ce Android kuma GNU ba shi da komai, mashahuri hargitsi kuma wannan ya zo kusa da mai amfani na yau da kullun kamar Ubuntu da danginsa Linux Mint, Elementary da kwanan nan Deepin ta hanyar daidaita su da bukatunmu, ya zama cewa a ƙarshe ba su da GNU sosai.

    A koyaushe ina faɗi, a nan da kuma wani wuri, cewa ina girmama mutane da yawa waɗanda suka yi imani kuma suke amfani da falsafar Stallman, kodayake ban same shi da amfani ba -kalla a wurina- amma kuma dole ne a san cewa akwai GNU da yawa Masu amfani da Linux waɗanda muke amfani da hargitsi don dalilai banda freedancin da Don Richad ke haɓakawa kuma abin da ya fi dacewa shi ne sanin “guts” na tsarin aiki saboda ba mu masu fasaha bane ko injiniyoyin tsarin. Wannan rukunin - babba ko karami shi ne mafi karancin sa - ya cancanci girmamawa, gaskiyar cewa ba mu san shirye-shiryen ba ya sa mu zama masu ƙarancin tunani ko ƙarancin sha'awar inganta kanmu a matsayin mutane. Mun san abin da muke buƙata daga tsarin aiki - GNU / Linux, Windows ko MacOS - kuma muna da kowane haƙƙi a cikin duniya don gabatar da ra'ayoyinmu. Menene zai faru idan buƙatu na - wanda ƙila kuma bukatun wasu da yawa ne - yi karo da freedancin Stalmanian? Gaskiyar ita ce ban yarda da yawa ba tare da cewa idan ba duka muke da dumi ba, to, bari mu jefa murhu a cikin kogi.

    1.    x11 tafe11x m

      Bari mu yarda cewa waɗancan masu amfani da kuka bayyana basu damu da tsarin ba, farawa, buɗewa, da sauransu da dai sauransu 😛

      1.    Tina Toledo m

        Hakan yayi gaskiya @ x11tete11x. Lokacin da na kunna kwamfutata, ba kamar Neo ba, ban ga lambobin Matrix ɗin a kan abin dubawa na ba, ƙarancin sanin yadda zan fassara su. Ban damu ba idan OS ɗin da nake amfani da shi yana da SystemD ko wani saboda don dalilai masu amfani abin da nake so shine OS ɗin yana aiki ... kuma yana aiki da kyau. Wancan SystemD ɗin zai ƙare yana kasancewa ko'ina kuma shin hakan yana nufin rasa yanci ne? Jeez, wannan maganar banza ce!

        Wancan SystemD din yana da rikitarwa, yana da kwari, kuma masu haɓaka suna da kasala har suna yin abubuwa da rabi? Raul ya faɗi hakan a sarari cewa ba lallai ba ne a yi ihu da shi; Maimakon yin gunaguni, bari waɗanda suka sani game da shi, idan suna da lokaci, su taimaka su gyara shi kuma su gyara shi. To, wannan ba abin da software ke kyauta ba ke nan?

      2.    lokacin3000 m

        @Bbchausa

        Maimaitawa a karo na goma sha shida abin da na fada a cikin tsoffin tsokaci: koya daga Theo de Raadt, don suna da kwarin gwiwa don buɗa OpenSSL lokacin da kowa yana ta gunaguni.

        Ba na cewa aiwatar da SystemD mummunan ra'ayi ne. A zahiri, idan nayi amfani da Chromium / Chrome / Opera Blink Developer akan Linux, yawanci yakan ɗauki SysVinit akan Debian har abada don rufe tsarin gaba ɗaya, wanda hakan baya faruwa da SystemD. Hakanan, SystemD, da alama, zai zama yana da ƙayyadaddun ranakun sa idan an ƙirƙira shi (kuma sama da shi duka, tare da haɓakawa da kamanceceniya da OpenRC, SysVinit da makamantansu waɗanda yawancin sysadmins suke fata suna da shi).

      3.    Tina Toledo m

        Ya ƙaunataccena @ eliotime3000… kun kasance daidai a duniya. Kodayake ban ga dalilin da zai sa a cokali ba. Kai, na fahimci dalilin, amma ban ga wata hujja a kanta ba.

      4.    yukiteru m

        @ eliotime3000 abin da kuka ce game da shi na ga yana da rikitarwa aƙalla a cikin BSD, a cikin Linux wannan wani lamari ne, tunda zai iya yin tsarin da zai iya samar da aikace-aikacen dogaro da tsarin aiki wanda ya dace da init kamar OpenRC, ta hanyar layin matsakaici tsakanin aikace-aikacen dogaro da tsarin kanta. Wani abu kamar ana shirya shi tare da OpenRC-settingsd, kodayake wannan aikin kamar an dakatar da shi ne tun 2013. Wata tambayar ita ce: Idan kuka yi wani abu kamar haka, shin Lennart zai yi irin abin da yake yi yanzu tare da eudev ya kunna aikin ta hanyar ɗauka zuwa udev / kdbus da tsari don haɓaka haɗin kwaya?

        @Tina, wacce zaka kunna kwamfutarka kuma baka fahimci lambar matrix da ke bayyana yayin buɗa ba, ya sanya ka zama mai amfani da Linux, waɗanda sune mafiya yawa na * masu amfani * da wannan tsarin, waɗanda suka zo daga ƙasashen Windows da OS X, suna neman wani madadin, gwaji ko gwaji, kuma sun ga wani abu a cikin Linux wanda kawai ya haɗa su, komai dalilin, kuma ana girmama shi. Abinda aka tattauna kuma shine babban tushen rikici tsakanin masu goyon baya da adawa da tsarin aƙalla a fahimtata, shine gaskiyar cewa wannan init ɗin ya zama wani yanki na cibiyar jan hankali wanda babu abinda zai iya tserewa daga gare shi, yana yin abubuwan da ya dace bai kamata ya yi ba, kuma ya zama mai dogaro mai ƙarfi kan duk abin da Linux ke yi (daemons, software management, DE). Wannan a ƙarshe yana nufin abu ɗaya: Zai sa mu dogara ga aikace-aikacen da zai iya samun ƙira da matsalolin tsaro (yanzu ko a nan gaba), banda wannan ba ya karɓar wani abu ban da filin da yake da shi (Lennart ba shi da haɗin kai sosai, baƙar magana). Akwai dalilai da yawa don kauce wa hakan, kuma ba kwa buƙatar ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya da yawa don nemo ɗaya, batun OpenSSL ba da daɗewa ba, kuma babban misali ne wanda ya dogara da software kanta mummunan ra'ayi ne (OpenSSL ita ce babbar software a cikin Hikimar rubutun da aka yi amfani da shi kusan kusan duk ɓatarwa) kuma ya ba mu cikakken misali game da abin da dogaro dogaro da software zai iya kawo wa al'umma da waɗanda ke amfani da OS Kuma akwai ƙarin dalilai, amma na bar shi anan don kar in faɗaɗa kaina.

        Gaisuwa 🙂

  39.   m m

    Yanzu duba inda ya shiga tsakani, ee, tare da tashoshi masu mahimmanci na VT, da alama yana son maye gurbinsu ne… ..wani dole ne ya tsayar da wannan ɗan gaban ko abubuwa zasu tafi ba daidai ba.
    SHAGO na gaggawa don Allah!

    Rukunin 216 na Systemd akan Featuresarin Abubuwa, Burin Sabbin Mai-Sararin VT
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc2Nzk

    1.    yukiteru m

      @ ba a san shi ba kuma ba ya ƙare a can yanzu kuna da ma Kache na DNS. Menene aikin init yayi tare da sabis ɗin-ginannen DNS? Ba ni da wata 'yar karamar shawara a zahiri, amma * dodo * zai ma sami goyon bayan DNSSEC da mDNS. Ina fatan bai sami * filastik * tare da wasu ɗayan ba kamar ɗaure, mara iyaka ko pdnsd.

      Abinda ke cikin systemd-terminal ya shafi KMSCon (KMS Console), ƙoƙari don fitar da VTs daga cikin kernel-sarari zuwa sararin mai amfani, amma kuma don gyara wasu abubuwa da yawa, musamman tare da Mesa, KMS, DRM, a cikin ƙari don sauƙaƙa ɗan ci gaban kernel. Theoƙarin yana da kyau, amma aiwatarwar zai zama matsala bayan ɗan lokaci saboda masu dogaro da KMSCon sune: tebur (libdrm, libgbm, libEGL, libGLESv2), udev (systemd), xproto (lokacin dogaro), libxkbcommon, freetype2 da glib (unicode support ), a takaice, wani lunge don init bai dace da tsarin ba.

      1.    ƙũra m

        wannan saboda tsarin ya daɗe tunda ya daina kasancewa ƙwarewa kawai. init shine ɗayan ayyukan da yake kawowa. ɗayan jerin ɗimbin sakandare ne na sakandare (kamar login, da duk abin da ya ƙare da d) waɗanda ke binaryar daban kuma waɗanda ke mai da hankali kan aiki ɗaya tak. kuma a zahiri zaku iya amfani da tsari ba tare da yawancin abubuwan da aka faɗi na yara ba ko kuma sun nakasa su. abin da ke faruwa shi ne cewa waɗannan aljannu suna, a yawancin halaye, kawai suna dacewa da tsari kuma ba za a iya amfani da su a waje da wannan ba (ƙirar hankali tun sigar 205) wannan saboda an tsara su ne don aiki da shi kawai. wannan yana kawo fa'ida da rashin amfani.

        abubuwan amfani

        -systemd yana da daidaitaccen tsari, zaku iya amfani dashi kawai tare da ayyukan da kuke buƙata (a zahiri wannan shine dalilin da ya sa aka fi amfani da tsarin a tsarin haɗawa)
        - an tsara ku don yin aiki tare da juna kawai. yana ba da damar kyakkyawan haɗuwa a cikin tsarin. yin rubuce-rubucen tsari kusan duniya (wannan yana daga cikin manyan matsalolin sysvinit, rubutattun daga ɗayan ba za a iya shigar da su zuwa wasu ɓarna ba, ya fi sauƙi ƙirƙirar ɗaya daga 0 (wanda yawancin masu tasowa na debian suka faɗi)

        -daidaitawa: dole ne a bayyana wannan.

        - ta hanyar iyakance zabin ka, zaka iya kiyaye karami da tsaftataccen lambar tushe, saboda haka inganta tsaro (saboda ka tuna cewa kowane sabis na tsari tsarin dabinon ne daban a cikin binary na daban) yawancin matsalolin tsaro mafi tsanani sune saboda tsohuwar lambar wacce har yanzu can saboda jituwa ta baya ko saboda dole ne ka jure yawancin zaɓuɓɓuka.

        disadvantages

        -Rashin daukar kaya: kamar yadda aka tsara shi don aiki kawai da wasu bangarorin software kuma ba wani abu ba, idan ba a biya bukatun ba, abubuwa ba sa aiki ko bukatar karin aiki mai yawa don sanya shi aiki.

        a ƙarshe, kasancewa mai dogaro mai mahimmanci akan duk tsarin ba mummunan bane. mun dogara da X11 tsawon shekaru 20 a cikin layin Linux don musayar zane da zane. Wannan ya kawo mana matsalolin tsaro na duniya (matsalolin x11 a cikin debian daidai suke da na misali misali) amma mafita ba shine a kirkiri sabobin zane daban-daban guda 20 ba, daya ga kowane rarrabuwa, wannan zai sa ci gaba ga Linux ya zama mafi tsayi mai ban tsoro. A ganina fa'idodi na "sanya oda a cikin gida" sun fi kyau. Duniyar Linux tana neman shekaru don kawo ƙarshen rarrabuwa kuma tsarin shine mafi kusa software wanda ya kawo wannan dogon buri

  40.   CarlosMC m

    Sannu,

    Idan da gaske kun yi amfani da tsari ban ga abin da ya sa korafe-korafe da yawa ba, na kasance ina amfani da Gentoo tsawon shekaru, wanda ya ba ni 'yancin zaɓar abubuwa da yawa kuma in daidaita su da bukatuna.

    Na tuna yin ƙaura na Gentoo tare da OpenRC kuma haɓakar saurin taya abin ban mamaki ne. Daga nan sai SystemD ya bayyana kuma bayan jira na dan lokaci domin ya daidaita a jikin bishiyar sai na yanke shawarar yin kaura da kuma gwada shi. Na dai kiyaye shi ne saboda yana bani abin da nake buƙata a kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka, tsarin da yake saurin ɗorawa, ee, ya fi OpenRC sauri, ba tare da yin wani canjin kayan aiki ba!

    Ba za ku iya zama geek kawai ba kuma kuna son kowane abu da aka kera shi, muna amfani da kwamfutoci saboda muna buƙatar su kuma koyaushe suna buƙatar farawa da sauri, cikin sauƙi da taƙaita lamarin.

    Kuma da kyau, wannan shine Linux, koyaushe za a sami ra'ayoyi daban-daban da zaɓi don kowane dandano.

    Bayan zarge-zarge kawai don son kasancewa mai jin daɗi da kuma samun duk abin da aka kunna a cikin OS ɗinmu, mafi kyau don bayyana mafita da sauran hanyoyin ... taimaka wa wasu waɗanda ke jin cewa sabon ba zai iya karɓar su da yadda za a yi amfani da su da sauran waɗanda ke ba da gudummawa fiye da komai a cikin ba. duniya Linux!

    Na gode!

    1.    m m

      @Rariyajarida
      ... .. kuma koyaushe suna buƙatar farawa da sauri, cikin sauƙi da taƙaita lamarin.

      Duba, ba ni da komai na hannu kuma yawan aiki na yau da kullun yawanci ya kai awa 14, tare da budewa yana ɗaukar kimanin daƙiƙa 20 don isa siririn shiga hoto, a cikin sistemd yana iya yin hakan a cikin sakan 12 ko 14, muna magana ne game da 8 seconds cikin kimanin awanni 14. Ba na buƙatar saurin gudu, Ina bukatan tsaro da sabis da ake gudanarwa ta hannu sau ɗaya kamar yadda koyaushe yake.
      Idan za a ƙirƙira tsari, abin takaici abubuwa da yawa dole ne a watsar da su gaba ɗaya, kamar su amfani da sigar binariyar matattara ... hakika abin kunya ne ganin lambar da ba ta da amfani.

  41.   Metallium Draco m

    Da zarar na karanta game da SystemD na ƙara jin tsoronta. Idan kawai na riga nayi 'sudo apt-get shigar sysvinit sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils'.

  42.   jma m

    Sakon yana da tsauri, amma asalin gaskiya ne, yawancin masu shirye-shiryen da ke taimakawa wajen shirya kwaya sune masu shirye-shiryen da kamfanoni ke biya wanda zai iya yin komai don samun karin kudi, kuma daya daga cikin kamfanonin da suka fi karfin wannan lamarin shine Red Hat hakan yana sanya masu shirye-shiryenta a wurin da niyyar kare muradun kasuwancin su kawai, ƙirƙirar ci gaban fasaha wanda ke sa amfani da software kyauta ta dace da sauran tsarin Unix-Like kamar tsarin BSD da sauransu.

    Matsalar ita ce don haifar da wannan amfani da bai dace ba, suna ƙirƙirar fasahohi kamar tsari wanda ke da lahani da cutarwa ga bukatun al'umma, kuma tare da faɗaɗa su da kuma yaɗa su zai sa tsarin ya ƙare ba na Unix-Like ba, kuma su daina yin abu guda daya kuma kayi shi da kyau, don yin abubuwa da yawa da aikata su ba daidai ba, wanda hakan zai haifar da tushen kurakurai da dogaro marasa dalili ba don komai ba sai don kaucewa yaduwar mafita daga wasu kamfanoni, a takaice, wata harka kamar ta pulseaudio.

    Bugu da ƙari, yanzu tare da tsari bayan girka abubuwan sabuntawa zai zama dole a sake farawa da tsarin, wanda ke da ƙasa da ƙasa da alaƙa da falsafar Unix, kuma ta hanyar sanya komai ya dogara da tsari suna hana kowane ɓarna daga amfani da wasu mafita kamar su openRC, Init, da dai sauransu…

    Bari muyi fatan Linus Torvald har yanzu yana da wani abin da za a faɗi game da tsarin, wani software wanda a fili bai dace da falsafar Unix ba ko tare da software kyauta.

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA

    kuma idan wannan ya ci nasara, zai zama dole a fara amfani da tsarin BSD da ƙari.

    1.    ƙũra m

      Zai kasance cewa linzami bashi da damuwa da falsafar unix wanda ba addini bane. linus riga ya faɗi shi. Linux ba batun yanci bane ko kuma falsafar arha, kawai shine samarda ingantattun hanyoyin magance matsaloli na zahiri. tsari yana warware matsaloli na ainihi da yawa na yanzu fiye da duk hanyoyin yanzu.

      A ƙarshe. Zan iya cewa tsarin ba unix-like karya bane. systemd ba katuwar binaryar da ke yin komai da kanta ba. akwai 2 systemd, na farko shine binary for init, wannan kadan ne. a zahiri yana da ƙanƙanta fiye da ƙarawa da sysvinit. na biyu shine aikin kamar haka kuma duk ayyukan a ƙarƙashin laima ɗaya. kowane ɗayan waɗannan yan banaries ne daban (wannan yayi daidai, kowane sabis ɗin da aka tsara shi na daban ne daga sauran, an sadaukar da shi ne kawai don ɗauke da sabis kawai aka ce ba waninsa ba. Wannan yana ba ni sauti kamar "yin abu ɗaya da yin shi da kyau") abin abin da ke damun mutane da yawa shi ne cewa waɗannan ɗimbin binar da daemon ne kawai za a iya amfani da su (wasu, idan ba duka ba) ba tare da an tsara su kamar PID 1. a ƙarshe. Waɗannan sauran ayyukan da tsarin ya "cinye" saboda masu kirkirar waɗannan ne suka yanke shawarar shiga cikin son rai. Ina shakkar lennart ya sanya bindiga ga syslog ko kawunan masu haɓaka. su da kansu sun yanke shawarar shiga.

  43.   m m

    Kun faɗi ta da kalmomin daidai… .amen.
    Babu buƙatar damuwa, kowa na iya ƙirƙirar distro ta amfani da openrc, ba wanda zai ji haushi ... kuma ga waɗanda suke son nasu, sun riga sun sami gentoo / funtoo, ina tsammanin sabayon da slackware suma sun shigo.

  44.   m m

    @musawa
    disadvantages
    -Rashin daukar kaya: an tsara shi ne don yayi aiki kawai da wasu bangarorin software kuma ba wani abu ba, idan ba a biya bukatun ba, abubuwa basa aiki ko bukatar karin aiki da yawa don sanya shi aiki.

    Rashin nasara gabaɗaya, tana iya samun duk fa'idodin da kake so, amma idan a ƙarshe ya dace da kansa kawai, yana tilasta kowa yayi amfani da shi ko kuma farawa daga ɓoye don ƙin son amfani da shi ... idan wannan ba haka bane tilastawa, menene shi?
    Ana iya karanta rubutu ta kowane ido na ɗan adam kuma ana fassara shi da bash ... tabbas ya fi saurin aiwatarwa, binary ba zai iya karantawa daga idanun ɗan adam ba, dole ne ka karanta lambar tushe kuma ka tattara ta da kanka don tabbatarwa. .. ma'ana, kafin ya zama dole ka san yadda ake karanta rubutun a cikin matsala yanzu dole ne ka san yadda zaka tsara cikin yaren C ... ko kuma ka baiwa ranka Lennart.
    Dangane da ko Lennart yayi amfani da bindiga, banyi tsammanin haka ba, shi mai jan hankali ne na RedHat da zai fara da idan yayi amfani da wani abu, a kowane hali dole ne ya kasance ban damfara ne na korewa ... basa kashe kowa, amma suna shawo kan yanke shawara.

  45.   Manuel m

    Ni ba mai tasowa bane, kawai na shiga wata cibiya ce, amma na fahimci abin da kuke fada, lambar budewa da kuma 'yancin koyo daga gare ta, kuma gyara ta wani bangare ne na waccan falsafar "' Yanci" da gnu / linux ke yadawa kuma, abin takaici; Tsarin, yau babban rauni ne a cikin zuciyar GNU / LINUX. Ina tsammanin, ga waɗanda ke da horo na ilimi, bai kamata ya zama da yawa ba, tunda koyaushe, za su iya yin ba tare da ɓarna da ke ɗaukar tsarin ba; gina tsarin gnu / Linux naka, ma'ana, sanya tsarin gnu / Linux naka daga karce, ba tare da ka nemi tsarin ba.

    Archlinux, yi amfani da systemd kuma ku yarda da ni ina amfani da shi kuma lallai yana aiki sosai, amma da kaina zanyi kokarin barin shi don isa ga Gentoo kuma daga can zuwa Linux daga karce.

  46.   m m

    Aƙalla sun fara da ƙauracewa mai kyau, wanda daga baya tabbas zai zama FORan mulkin FORK da aka tsara.

    Sabon Kira Yayi Kira Ga Kauracewa Systemd
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc3OTM

    A cikin bayanan wani ya wuce hanyar haɗi guda biyu inda suka bayyana dalla-dalla abubuwan ban tsoro (ba a san ko menene dalilin ba).

    http://ewontfix.com/14/
    http://ewontfix.com/15/

  47.   kristz m

    Kuma ina wutar jahannama Richard Stallman yake da ra'ayinsa akan waɗannan abubuwa?
    Rubutun binary, duk ana sarrafa shi ta tsarin, ba sauraron al'umma ba ...

    Ba na gaba da gaba da kowa ba amma ina mamakin Richard Stalman bai ce uffan ba.

  48.   Nico Fuenzalida m

    brrrp!

    Ina tsammanin zan karanta rubutun fasaha a cikin Mutanen Espanya.

    gaisuwa

  49.   DAINA WHINING m

    Systemd kyakkyawan ra'ayi ne wanda ba a aiwatar dashi ba. Saka ta 217, tuni kan Arch kuma a cikin fewan shekaru akan Debian - LOL! - ya ƙunshi siffofin tsaro waɗanda kawai za a iya amfani da su zuwa PID1, alal misali, cikakken keɓe ayyukan da aiwatarwa, wani abu da SELinux ko wata MAC ba za su taɓa yin mafarkin aiwatarwa ba tare da tsari ba.

    A nawa bangare ban san kowa wanda yake amfani da tsari ba kuma wanda yake son komawa tsohon tsarin farawa da tsarin tsari; A zahiri, duk wani kayan tarihi da na gamu dasu kuma wanda zanyi mashi magana akan batun, saboda dukkanmu mun kasance ba mu da sha'awar /etc/rc.conf, ya yarda cewa tsarin ba shi da matsala daga tsarin ra'ayi kuma babu komai yawan su. A wani lokacin da wataƙila kuna son tsohuwar tsarin daidaitaccen sabis a yau BABU HAUKA koma wannan bayan amfani da tsari.

    Jama'a, ku daina fasa kwallayenku, ya riga ya tabbata, yana nan kuma idan baku so ba, yi amfani da wasu abubuwa kamar Devuan (hahahahahahahaha) ko Gentoo, ko Slack ko ma Manajaro da yanzu ke tallafawa OpenRC.
    Bayan haka, yayin lasar raunukan su ta amfani da duk wani abu da ya sabawa tsari, kalli budeSUSE, Fedora ko Arch kuma ku ga yadda rashin bege ya ɓace a lokacin rayuwa gaskiyar rashin gaskiya, duk don sauƙin ƙaiƙayi don ƙin abin da alama ba su sani ba kuma suna hukunci bisa ga sauran ra'ayoyin maimakon su kafa nasu.

    Damn, idan har ma manyan masu amfani da FreeBSD sun riga suna magana game da tsara tsarin kwatankwacin tsari don saduwa da sabbin buƙatun da ake gani a sararin samaniya, gami da ƙimar amfani da yawa, yawaitar na'urorin haɗi, iya amfani da na'urori masu hannu, tsaro da sauƙaƙe da ingantaccen gudanarwa tsakanin sauran ...

    Kafin ka amsa maganganun banza waɗanda aka haifa da son zuciya, karanta wannan ɗan gajeren bayanin Lennart na kwanan nan game da sababbin sifofin tsaro da aka tattauna a sama:

    Dukkanin fasalluka sun shiga ta hanyar sassan sabis kuma ana da niyyar ware ko rarraba damar samun albarkatun tsarin da daemons suke da juna ta amfani da sararin sunayen kernel:
    - PrivateTmp: sanya takamaiman / tmp da / var / tmp don daemon
    - Na'urorin keɓaɓɓu: ƙirƙirar takamaiman / dev don daemon tare da duk abin da ya cancanta: mara kyau, bazuwar, urandom, da dai sauransu, kawai abin da ya zama dole don yin aiki daidai. Ta wannan hanyar zaku hana daemon samun damar zuwa faifai ko duk wani abin da aka haɗa (toshe ko halin). MAMAKI.
    - Yanar gizo mai zaman kansa: ƙirƙirar keɓaɓɓen keɓaɓɓe daga ainihin abin (don haka ba za ku iya samun damar ta ba daga mai karɓar mai nuna 127.0.0.1). Babban abu mai mahimmanci game da wannan shine cewa zaku iya raba sararin suna ɗaya tsakanin ɗimbin ɗumbin don haka, alal misali, zaku iya samun MariaDB haɗi kawai ga cibiyar sadarwar baya da ke amfani da ita kuma waɗannan biyun biyun zuwa Nginx wanda shine wanda ke da samun dama ga hanyar sadarwa.
    - Tsarin Sirri: mataki daya gaba, idan kun kunna shi, yana ba daemon damar isa kawai / sauransu da / usr (/ usr a yanayin R / O); idan ka saita shi a matsayin cikakke, zaka iya samun damar / sauransu kawai a cikin yanayin R / O
    - Keɓaɓɓen Gida: rufe komai / gida a cikin sararin suna saboda baza ta iya samun damar bayananka ba
    - ReadOnlyDirectories: kamar yadda sunan sa ya nuna yana sanya wadancan kundayen adireshi kawai-kawai
    - Hanyoyi masu wuyar shiga: kamar yadda sunan yake 🙂
    - MountFlags = bawa: yayin kunna kowane zaɓi na baya don abin da aka ba, ana yin muhawara ta atomatik a matsayin bayi, ma'ana, jadawalin hawa na gaba ɗaya na tsarin ba'a canza shi ba, amma sigogin na musamman suna shafar hawawar da shaidan (moi groso!).
    Hakanan zaka iya amfani da wannan zaɓin tsayawa shi kaɗai.
    - CapabilityBoundingSet: yana ba da umarnin aiwatarwa don duk zaren da aka ƙirƙira su dogaro akan shi suyi amfani da damar da mai gudanarwa ya bayyana kawai (http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/capabilities.7.html) kuma don haka kauce wa haɓakar haɓakawa izinin - sexy, huh!? ^ _ ^
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw3eycS9_SPaQnFHZjU5TURxdmc&authuser=0

    Babban mai gabatarwa na FreeBSD yana yin tsinkaye na shekaru 10 masu zuwa na tsarin aiki kuma yana magana game da buƙatar aiwatar da wani bayani kwatankwacin tsarin:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mri66Uz6-8Y

    1.    msx m

      * jefa

  50.   Fernando Cortes Aviles m

    Na kasance mai amintaccen mai amfani da Debian tsawon shekaru kuma yana bakanta min rai ganin hanyar da yake bi. Wasu masu haɓaka kawai ke da izinin yin zaɓe, amma mai amfani na ƙarshe ba shi da zaɓi face ya yarda da wannan layin jahannama (systemd). Ina fatan cewa aikin devuan zai ci gaba kuma ya sami goyon baya mai yawa.
    Akwai 'yan distros masu aminci ga SysV kamar Gentoo da pclinuxos kuma tabbas… slackware!

    gaisuwa

  51.   Alberto m

    Ina tsammanin gaskiya ga waɗanda suke samun kuɗi tare da Linux, wannan tsarin yana da haske shekaru da yawa daga Windows da Mac kuma saboda haka duk tsarin busawa, kayan aiki da zakaru. Na kuskura na ce a kasa da shekaru 8, Nod, Avast, Kaspr da duk wasu membobinsu za su shiga duniyar Linux, tare da su duk wata kwayar cuta. Kasuwanci ne kuma anan ba zai rabu da allah ba. Kowace rana ƙarin mai amfani Linux? zakara ya zo paca Ina bukatar kudinku. Abin takaici ne. Yanzu suna kawai sanya tip ɗin tare da Vaseline .. jira fewan shekaru zaku ga hahaha

  52.   Marcelo Lopez Foresi m

    Ina ganin abin da marubucin wasikar ke fada wawa ne. Duk da yake akwai adawa da yawa ga tsarin, duk lokacin da aka sami manyan canje-canje, akwai manyan ra'ayoyi.
    Hakanan, kasancewar ni mai amfani da debian (haka ni ma) ba ze zama abin ƙyama a gare ni ba. Idan ba kwa son su yanke shawara game da abubuwa a gare ku, kawai kuyi amfani da wani juzu'in "mai wahala" kuma tattara komai da hannu, gami da tsarin farawa.
    Ba za ku iya yin da'awar cewa kuna da duk fa'idodi na tafiyar da ƙirar da ke warware duk abin dogaro ba, ba tare da wani rauni ba.
    Ga mai amfani da annashuwa ko mara kyau, da ba hakan ta faru ba, "oops ... Na sabunta kuma akwai abubuwan da bana so." Saboda sabunta tsarin da hannu, dole ne ku ciyar da jaki da yawa na kallon abin da kuke yi.
    Yi haƙuri idan masu haɓaka distro ɗin da kuke so sun aikata abin da ba ku so. Ina da ra'ayi, me yasa baza kuyi irin na Linus ba ku gina OS daban?

  53.   Jorge m

    Barka dai, ni sabon abu ne ga Linux kuma gaskiyar magana ita ce wannan labarin yana da ban tsoro kuma ba a kebe shi da gaske ba. Ni wanda na shiga Debian tare da duk rudanin me ake nufi da kayan aikin kyauta (yanci, taimakon alkhairi ga duk wanda yake bukatarsa, kyauta, sauki) a takaice, wannan ya zama min hanyar fahimtar kwalliya mai kyau da kyau (kuma yadda nake tunanin lissafi ya kamata ya kasance daga farko). A zahiri, na gama wannan gidan yanar gizon ne saboda na fara yin rubutun Debian don koyon yadda zan sarrafa kaina da yin abubuwa da kaina, Na fahimci cewa duk abin da nakeso na so na ɓace.

    Dole ne mu ƙirƙiri sabon bangare a cikin Devuan, bari muga yadda yake ...

    Na gode da wannan labarin.
    Gaisuwa, Jorge.

  54.   Jorge m

    Ko ta yaya, lokaci zai tabbatar da wanda yake da shi daidai.

    Abinda mu masu amfani za mu iya yi shi ne gwada hanyoyi da yawa da fatan wanne ya ƙare da kasancewa mafi kyau.

  55.   Jorge m

    Game da Devuan, Ina so in gwada shi, amma yanzu yana cikin sigar gwajinsa. Da zaran wani tsayayyen siga ya fito don ganin ko zan iya gwadawa, don ganin yadda yake.

  56.   Sebastian m

    Ta yaya yake da wuya a karanta akan irin wannan batun baƙon abu kuma a yarda da komai. Kwanan nan na girka Debian Jessie, na riga na tsara sau 2 don haɗuwar tsarin gabaɗaya cikin sauƙaƙan sauƙi. Na yi mamakin yadda irin wannan ya taɓa faruwa da ni kuma kwatsam komai ya fara lalacewa. Ina amfani da motsa jiki kuma tunda Debian jessie cd ta zazzage shafin (ko rakodi zuwa dvd ko pendrive) basa aiki a wurina, nakan sanya wheezy da sabuntawa. Tunda yana ɗaukar lokaci don saukar da abubuwa, ba abin da nake yi nan da nan ba don haka ina amfani da Wheezy na fewan kwanaki kuma na lura da bambancin aiki tare da Jessie wanda ban lura dashi ba a cikin abubuwan da aka sabunta a baya. Ba zato ba tsammani karanta wani labarin da na gano game da tsari kuma na fahimci cewa ba karya ba ne da zan iya lura da Jessie (jin kasancewa cikin rashin kwanciyar hankali na windows).
    Godiya ga labarinku da sauran waɗanda na karanta waɗanda suka sanar da ni game da wannan batun, na yanke shawarar canza rarraba.