To menene matsala an yi makamai a cikin G + tsakanin masu haɓakawa, masu amfani, har ma da nasu Mark Shuttleworth, duk don kare / kushe me Mir wakiltar nan gaba na Ubuntu.
Takaita dukkan muhawarar aiki ne mai wahala, yana da kyau kowa ya ziyarci mahadar ya gano duk abin da suka tattauna. Abinda yaja hankalina shine cewar Mark Shuttleworth, Unity wanzu da farko cewa Gnome harsashi. Kuma ina faɗar magana:
Hadin kai ya kasance kafin Gnome Shell. Kuma ƙirar Unity ta bayyana a gaba, ƙungiyar Red Hat ce wacce ta zagaya ko'ina kafin ta canza zuwa zane wanda yake da kamanni ɗaya da Unity.
Koyaya, 'yan maganganun ƙasa da mai amfani mai suna Mathias Hasselmann ne tsokaci:
+David James +Mark Shuttleworth Lallai ya zama dole ku sami mafi kyau a bincika gaskiya:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=4ba985b4844b7efeed1c64276759aa2632b86472
kwanan wata: 2008-10-31 04:22:44 (GMT)http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/1 date: 2009-10-15 10:40:35 UTC
Nuna hakan a waje, duk da kaunar Hadin kai. Hakanan na yi imani in tuna cewa Canonical yana da hannu dumu-dumu tare da abubuwan izgili na UI na farko na GNOME Shell, bari in duba jerin adiresoshin GNOME.
Kuma kamar yadda wasu zasu ce, ilimin lissafi ba laifi bane: Gnome harsashi sun kasance cikin ci gaba, aƙalla a kan sabobin Git, shekara guda kafin ta Unity.
Yin ɗan ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya, Na tuna da hakan Gnome harsashi da farko bai yi kama da yanzu ba, ya ɗan bambanta kamar yadda za mu iya gani a hoto mai zuwa:
y Unity Hakanan yana da bambance-bambance daga sigar yanzu, amma zuwa ƙaramin digiri:
Har ila yau, zai zama mai yawa kunci ga Mark Shuttleworth yi da'awar cewa Unity wani abu ne na daban ko na musamman, lokacin da yawancinmu muka san cewa ba komai bane face kwafin zamani Next Mataki. Shin wani yana ganin kama?
Don haka ina mamakin wanene ya dace? Ban sani ba, amma idan na yarda da maganganun da Naman alade, mai bunkasa Ubuntu:
Zane irin wannan misali ne na dalilin da yasa Open Source ke gwagwarmaya a wurare; fadace-fadace na fasaha wadanda basa yin komai face tada jini mara kyau.
Wadannan muhawarar "bude", kodayake suna karantarwa kuma suna nuna mana ra'ayoyin junan mu, suma suna bata kwarjinin Open Source Community dan kadan. Mir vs Wayland ya zama wani ɓangare na yanayin harshen wuta na koyaushe: Gnome vs. KDE, Qt vs Gkt, da sauransu ... kuma a bayyane, ba za mu taɓa iya yarda ba.
Zan tambayi Mark Wane banbanci ya kawo wanene ya kasance a farko? Abu mai mahimmanci shine dukansu suna nan, kuma dukansu sun tattara masu amfani da masu haɓakawa don kiyaye ayyukan duka biyu, cewa idan ni mai gaskiya ne, banyi tsammanin su biyun sun wuce aiki da ƙoƙari ba KDE....
Gaskiya, ban damu da wanda ya fara fitowa ba. Na yi amfani da KDE kuma ba na son shi sosai amma ni ba gwani ba ne a kan wannan kuma, kamar yadda suke faɗa, "don ɗanɗano, launuka". Abin da na yarda da shi shine bayanin da Jono Bacon yayi. Tunda nake amfani da GNU / Linux na ga kowane irin tattaunawa. Da farko sun nishadantar kuma yana da kyau a tursasa wasu amma gaskiyar magana itace ta riga ta kasance ...
Irin wannan abu ya kamata ya zama gaskiya game da software na mallaka kuma. Abin da ya faru shi ne cewa ba mu gano ba: p
A'a, idan a wannan matakin zamu yarda da Icaza kadan ...
Kamar yadda kuka ce yana da wata wuta, kuma idan duka biyun suna shirye don amfani dasu yau da kullun zan gwada su. Cewa ban gamsu ba ko kuma cewa direbobin Nvidia suna ba da matsala (saboda a halin yanzu babu fatarar da za ta kama kwamitin Intel, aƙalla nan gaba), saboda zan ci gaba da Xorg kuma hakane, kuma kamar yadda Darko ya ce, don dandano, launuka.
Ina tsammanin cewa a cikin Ubuntu sun fara yin imani da yawa, yayin da suke tunanin cewa za su iya yin komai su kaɗai, bari mu ga ko gaskiya ne.
Ba don kare Ubuntu bane, amma shine zasu iya yarda da shi; aikin da suke yi babban abin birgewa ne, hanyar habaka Linux ta fi duk wani abin da wasu 'yan iska ke yi, nesa ba kusa ba.
Ina faɗi:… cewa idan na kasance mai gaskiya, bana tsammanin su biyun sun fi KDE aiki da ƙoƙari….
Wannan yana ƙara mai zuwa wutar, a fili wannan post ɗin zai zama wani ƙarin wuta xD
Ba sanya wuta ba ce, amma kawai godiyata ce. Kamar yadda ni kaina ba zan iya cewa ci gaban Xfce ya ƙunshi ƙoƙari da aikin da ake buƙata don Unity ko Gnome Shell ba, ba zan iya cewa Unity da Gnome Shell sun ƙunshi ƙoƙari da aikin da ake buƙata a KDE ba. Ayyuka ne da suka sha bamban a girmansu. KDE yana da kayan aiki da aikace-aikace da yawa fiye da Unity, Gnome Shell da Xfce da aka haɗa su .. kawai saboda wannan, ba wai don ɗayan ya fi ɗayan kyau ko ya fi muni ba ..
Amma KDE shine Compaddamar da Software. Sauran sune ams desktop
cikakke, sharhinku ba zai zama mai haske ba, amma gaskiyar ba ta dace ba don magana game da KDE. Yana kama da yin rubutu daga distro rpm da rufewa tare da ra'ayi cewa bashi yafi kyau, ko yin ɗaya daga distro da rufewa tare da cewa bashi da karko kamar Debian, da sauransu.
Shin Debian ba ta cika damuwa ba, yanzu da magana ta fita? Distro da ke amfani da tsohuwar software al'ada ce don ya zama mai karko.
Ban san dalilin ba amma ba zan iya ganin alherin Debian ba.
Yana da amfani a wasu lokuta (akasari sabobin) amma ban sani ba shin abubuwan nawa ne ko kuma ina jin cewa tsarin yana tafiyar hawainiya idan aka kwatanta shi da sauran hargitsi da kuma abubuwanda aka sanya ...
Joules
Kwanciyar hankali Debian ba ta dogara da nau'ikan kayan aikinta ba, sai dai a kan kulawar da suke bayarwa wajen ganowa da magance kwari.
Manufofin Debian suna da fa'ida da fa'ida kamar Fedora ko Arch's na samun komai sabo da wuri-wuri, kuma kowa na iya zaɓar gwargwadon yadda yake so. Ba na tsammanin Debian ya wuce gona da iri, kamar yadda nake tsammanin Ubuntu ya yi rauni.
Ni kaina bana bukatar amfani da sabuwar software (zan iya zama kamar na Ubuntu LTS), amma kuma bana son sigar da aka tilasta muku shiga wani lokacin idan kuna amfani da hargitsi kamar Fedora, wanda yakamata kuyi amfani dashi idan ko idan sabuwar software da suke dasu kuma basa baku damar canzawa zuwa sabon juzu'i duk lokacin da kuke so kamar a cikin sakin layi. (Da kyau, ana iya yin shi da ƙarfi, amma ina nufin cewa kuna da zaɓi ku yi shi ba tare da an kama na'urar ba don daskare nau'ikan software na tsarin aikin ku)
Idan ban yi kuskure daga abin da na karanta a can ba, Gnome Shell ya fara ci gaba shekara guda kafin Unity, amma Unity an sake shi shekara guda kafin Gnome Shell (sigar don netbooks.
Ban sani ba ko gaskiya ne ko sun jefa ni a kaina.
GNOME Shell ya sami ciki tun da wuri amma yana da ƙarin ciki. Don haka tsawon lokacin da abin da zai kasance mafi yawan dabbobin daji, an haifi giwa.
Kamar abin da wani Velimir Baxa ya ce:
Offtopic: ta yaya ake samun salon "quote" yayin rubuta ra'ayi?
Ina amfani da alamun [blockquote] [/ blockquote] amma ba tare da baka ba, amma tare da alamun mafi girma da ƙasa da ..
Na gwada ubuntu da gnome shell da xfce, maganata itace wadannan masu zuwa basu dace da abinda KDE ke bayarwa ba (calligra, krita, karbon, rekonq, amarok da kuma wata babbar da dai sauransu)
Saboda dalilai na aiki Ina kan tsarin windows kuma hakika bakon abu ne in kasance cikin KDE.
gaisuwa
An rasa shi?.
A ra'ayina, KDE yayi kamanceceniya da Windows dangane da aikin gaban tebur.
Amma duk da haka, kamar yadda wasu maganganun da ke sama suka ce, ku ɗanɗana launuka ..
Kowane tebur tare da mashaya, menu da windows, yayi kama da windows. Kun gano Indies xd
Wancan Desktop din Plasma yana nuna ta tsoho kamar yadda Windows baya hana ka rasa shi. Plasma na iya yin kama da Unity, GNOME Shell ko Mac OS amma bayyanarta ba shine babban halayenta ba. Kuna so Windows ta "aiki" ta zama kamar KDE. Kuma idan muka kalli aikace-aikacen ... Ina KRunner yake? Dabbar dolfin? K3b? Okular? Gwenview?, ... Windows yana buƙatar kayan aiki na ɓangare na uku don samun ayyuka iri ɗaya.
Samun KDE da sanya shi kamar Gnome Shell ba wauta ba ce? Don wannan amfani da Gnome Shell kuma a more !!!!!
Kada ku yarda da shi. Kuna iya son shimfidar GNOME Shell amma a lokaci guda baku goyi bayan wasu ƙuntataccen yanayi ba. Tare da Plasma zaka iya yin hadin zuwa ma'aunin ka.
Na san wannan jin dadi ..
Ina kawai a kwaleji ...
Kuma a sa'an nan, KDE yana da ƙarin masu haɓakawa, mafi yawan al'umma, ya fi yawan yanayin ƙasa ...
gnome yana da kyau kuma hadin kai kuma yana da mahimmanci a sami zabin da za'a zaba daga (a kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka na na amfani da gnome 2.32 akan gentoo) amma har yanzu ba su kai matakin KDE ba, haka nan kwanan nan gnome ya fi karkata ga taba na'urori kamar yadda muke da suna wasu Fluxbox, Openbox, Lxde daidaitacce zuwa inji da 'yan albarkatun…. ma'anar ita ce cewa bambancin abu ne mai kyau ... kar muyi kokarin cewa wane ne ya fi kyau ko kuma mafi muni, mahimmin abu shi ne cewa suna wurin ga kowane yanayi da ke buƙatar amfani da tebur kamar haka….
Shin akwai matsala wacce ta fara? Hakanan haɗin kai shine kwafin osx, kuma gnome-shell yana fitar da launin toka mai launin toka daga tsoffin mayaƙan Linux, koyaushe za a sami masu zagi da magoya bayan duka, abin da zamu iya cewa yana da yawa, Linux tana da kyau kuma akwai ga kowa, kuma mafi yawa mahimmanci Dokar duniya ce, "komai komai na kwafin komai" wannan kuma koda kun kulle kanku ba tare da samun damar shirye-shiryen waje ba, muhallinku lokacin da kuka tashi zasu gaya muku cewa kwafin X ne, don haka tawa bla bla bla tare da wannan harshen wuta!
http://kcy.me/gy6y
Alamar yanzu kawai ta rage don a ce "ba mu bane na farko amma zamu kasance mafi kyau" kuma wannan shine ƙarshen tattaunawar> +>
Ba na tsammanin wannan "tsarkakakken yaki ne", wayland mataki ne daga X, babu wani dalili, Kwarai da gaske babu, don kirkirar sabuwar sabar zane wacce ta sabawa dukkan kwararar da ake gani a GNU / Linux. .. idan akwai karin cigaba a cikin Mir, zai shafi wayland da yawa, saboda direbobi da batun tallafi tare da dukkanin batun mai hoto ... Tuni aiki yayi yawa don aika komai zuwa wayland, matsalar mai hoto 2 sabobin zasu zama mafi girma mafi girma…
Ubuntu yakamata ya goyi baya da taimakon wayland, amma amfani da wannan sabar zane bata da ma'ana, babu uzuri…. Sai dai idan suna so suyi wani abu wanda ƙasashen waje ba za su iya ba kuma ba sa so su gaya mana, AMMA wannan ba ita ce hanyar aiki ba a cikin duniyar software ta kyauta, ba hanya ba ce sam.
Na fi son bayanin David Edelsohn:
Muna iya yarda ko a'a, amma lasisi na software kyauta suna ba Ubuntu damar yin abin da yake yi, ba tare da la'akari da daidai ko a'a ba.
Amsar Mark bai kasance mafi haske ba, amma kamar yadda Linus Torvalds ya taɓa faɗi, nasarar software kyauta saboda son kai, kuna ba da gudummawa ko dai saboda ƙalubale, a matsayin abin sha'awa, ko saboda kuna buƙatar wasu ayyuka.
Kuma akan KDE na yarda. Yana da abubuwa da yawa.
+1
Na yarda da kai, akwai son kai da yawa a wannan yankin!
Wannan rubutun wauta ne sosai !!! Menene ya fara? Maganar banza ko wannan post.
Kuma bari mu gode wa Allah cewa wannan rubutun ba "ra'ayi na mutum ba ne" (kamar mafi yawan kwanan nan), don Allah, al'ummomin suna buƙatar girma, wannan yara ne sosai.
Menene ya fara? Maganar banza ko wannan post.
Rayayye
Da zarar kan lokaci, lokacin da masu amfani da masu karatu na DesdeLinux Sun fi ladabi kuma babu trolls. Zaman lafiya..
Shuttleworth yana ɗaukar manufofin tallan Apple a wasu abubuwa, ɗayan waɗannan Unityayatattun, ni kaina ba na son wannan farfaganda, amma a matsayina na mai amfani ina son hanyar da take bi a Ubuntu da canje-canjen da take niyya (ko za ta yi).
Kuma idan muka tafi zuwa ga ra'ayin, a bayyane yake cewa kungiyar Gnome sune suka kirkira ta kuma suka inganta ta (wannan tarihin na Canonical yana nuna mana cewa basa kirkirar abubuwa da yawa amma suna daidaita abinda ke cikin kasuwa da bukatun su. ), kuma kawai kalli kowane sakin ɗakunan karatu na Gnome Unity shima ya canza fasali.
Kuma a wani bangaren, idan muka je gefen yanke talla cewa duk wanda ya kawo wani abu a kasuwa da farko an bashi nasarar, saboda a haka Canonical shine yake karbar biredin.
Da kyau Ubuntu ya fito ne daga Ubuntu Netbook Launcher, wanda shine keɓaɓɓiyar hanyar da aka tsara don Netbooks, kuma tun daga lokacin ta riga ta gudanar da ra'ayoyi daban-daban da aka yi amfani da su a cikin Gnome Shell da Unity, kamar dash tare da gumakan aikace-aikacen, daga can ne ra'ayin Unity daga baya. Ina ganin cewa babban dalilin samar da hadin kai shine Canonical bai yarda da canje-canjen da suke shiryawa ga kamfanin na Gnome Shell ba da kuma shaawar su ta samar da wata hanyar sadarwa wacce aka tsara don allon fuska, a lokacin netbooks, allunan sun shahara sosai Ba su riga sun shigo ba boom, amma sun riga suna tunanin hanyoyin musayar makoma daban da na gargajiya, tuni suna tunanin abubuwan taɓawa.
Bambancin yana da kyau, harma da gasar lafiya, na tuna wani rubutu da Shuttlworth yayi a shafin sa inda ya soki ayyukan GNOME (inda Red Hat ke da tasiri sosai) na rashin yarda da canje-canjen da Canonical ke gabatarwa, saboda a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, waɗancan canje-canje. zai taimaka wajan amfani da kayan Gnome mafi kyau yayin yin kwalliya daban kuma yana gaya musu cewa yakamata a maraba da gasar lafiya.
Wani abu makamancin haka ya faru yanzu don yana da mahimmanci Canonical ya yanke shawarar aiwatar da Mir.
A ƙarshe lambar Unity, Mir, Ubuntu Touch, da sauransu ta buɗe, babu wata matsala da wasu za su sake amfani da ita. Ban san dalilin da yasa da yawa suke cewa Ubuntu a rufe yake ba, da sauransu, da dai sauransu, na yi komai a cikin Launchpad inda suka yi min kyakkyawar kulawa, mutane suna da hankali sosai kuma suna buɗe haɗin kai.
Abin da ke faruwa shi ne cewa waɗanda suka riga sun saba da sukar Ubuntu za su ci gaba da yin hakan ba tare da ba da gudummawar komai ga Ubuntu kanta ba.
Ka zama mai yawan buɗe ido. Kar a rufe.
Gaisuwa ga kowa.
Idan na tuna daidai akwai Ubuntu disitro don daidaitaccen netbook (NetBook Remix Desktop) wanda ke da tebur mai kama da haɗin kai kuma daga inda gnome-shell ya ɗauki ɗan ra'ayi.
Na kuma fahimci cewa hadin kai ya faro ne a matsayin canjin gnome-shell wanda aka samo daga yaƙin canonical tare da masu haɓaka gnome saboda kawai suna sauraren ra'ayoyin redhat wanda shine ya saka kuɗin.
Daga cikin mutanen da suke shiga cikin waɗannan nau'ikan yankuna, yawancinsu suna nuna ƙyamar su ga gnome-shell da haɗin kai (Ina tsammanin mu jama'a ne tare da shekara sama da shekara a cikin Linux). Babban abin da ke daure kai shine yawancin mutanen da ba su da wata alaƙa da duniyar Linux suna farin ciki da sabon aikin da waɗannan kwamfyutocin teburin suke wakilta.
Gaskiya ne. Mutane da yawa a waje da duniyar Linux suna da ruɗu da waɗannan sabbin kwamfyutocin; kuma ga gwaje-gwajen abin da na girka wa mutane na kewaya. Na kasance mai amfani tsawon shekaru, kuma ina daraja Gnome-Shell sosai. Wannan haka ne; Na yarda cewa "mizani" talauci ne ƙwarai; abin da ya faru shine cewa tare da extan kari, zai iya zama wani abu mai girma da aiki sosai. Na fahimci cewa babban batun mahimmanci a cikin Gnome-Shell shine damar gidan yanar gizonku tare da haɓakawa. Da gaske akwai manya. Duk lokacin da na girka shi bana sanya ƙasa da ƙasa 10 ko 12.
KDE? Babu godiya, nayi ba tare da Windows ba don sauƙi, ba don zuwa wani abu mai rikitarwa da nauyi ba. Ina zama tare da ƙaunataccen Gnome-Shell.
Sauran .. Tambaya iri daya nake yawan tambaya.Har yaushe baku gwada KDE ba?
Hehehe, kawai magana ce ta birgima.
Tattaunawar Linux ...