Iindaba ezibuhlungu ziza kum zivela esandleni sika Unixmen: Iphupha Iyekisiwe.Zizizathu? Abaziwa okwangoku. Nangona ekuqaleni konyaka, inguqulo yesi-5 yolu kusasazo yakhululwa, kuyabonakala ukuba asisayi kuba nayo inkxaso.
Kwi webhsayithi Abathethi nto ngayo, basishiya nje njengentuthuzelo ukuze sikwazi ukukhuphela inxalenye yoMzobo wolu lwabiwo lubalaseleyo. Iphupha ngayo (okanye waye) ngenxa ye Uvavanyo lweDebian kwaye ndisebenzise eyam kudala ndiyilindile njengeNdawo yeDesktop Xfce.
Nangona yayingeyona nto ilula kakhulu yosasazo, Iphupha Inokusetyenziswa ngokugqibeleleyo kwiikhomputha ezinobuncwane obuphantsi, kwaye yasinika inkangeleko efudumeleyo nenhle, igxile ngaphezu kwayo yonke into kumsebenzisi wokugqibela.
Usukelo lwakhe yayikukuba lula kangangoko kunokwenzeka. Yayinenkqubo yokucofa okukodwa (ucofa-kanye inkqubo yokuhlohla) into abayenzileyo Iphupha ukuhanjiswa okulula kakhulu ukuyisebenzisa. Ukongeza, ngokuzenzekelayo ibandakanya iikhowudi zevidiyo, i-flashplayer kunye nothotho lwezicelo ezisebenza njenge Iphupha olona khetho lubalaseleyo njengeNdlela yokuSebenza engundoqo.
Ungakhuphela inxalenye yomsebenzi wobugcisa kula makhonkco alandelayo:
Kubi kakhulu, nakwinto endiyibonayo iwebhusayithi ayisasebenzi:/, ihlazo ngokwenene. Ndiyabulisa.
Kanye xa wazalwa ngokutsha ……….
Khange ndiyizame, bendingazazi ukuba mandithini.
Ngokuqinisekileyo umfana owaphuhlisayo sele egqibile eyunivesithi kwaye ngoku uya kuzinikela ekwenzeni izinto ezinzulu ezimenza imali, sisizathu esifanayo sokuba izicelo ezifana nexesha le-tv okanye i-camstudio ziyeke ukuphuhliswa kwaye sisizathu esifanayo sokuba kutheni imidlalo yevidiyo i-steam okanye i-valve iya. Ukungaphumeleli kwi-linux loo nkqubo isetyenziswa kuphela ngabantu abanomdla kunye nabafundi besayensi yekhompyuter abanamandla amancinci okuthenga kunye nabancinci kodwa xa bekhulile kwaye babe ziingcali bagqibe ukusebenzisa i-mac okanye babuyele kwiifestile, andibhejanga nabantu abadumileyo emhlabeni. open source bayisebenzisa njenge linus okanye icaza umzekelo
Kukho abo batshintshela kwiMac baze baphele belahlekile kwiLinux, kwaye andicingi ukuba kungenxa yokungabikho kwamandla okuthenga. Ukuba iNew York Stock Exchange kunye neNASA zisebenzisa iLinux, andicingi ukuba kungenxa yokuba abanazo ngokwaneleyo iiMacs.
Kwaye ngokokwazi kwam, abasunguli be-elav kunye ne-KZKG^Gaara bayasebenza malunga neLinux.
Ewe... ngaphezulu kweminyaka emi-5 kunye nepenguin kwi-tow... Kwaye ndonwabe kakhulu...
Amen! 😀
Sobabini u-elav kunye nam sisebenzisa i-100% ye-Linux, kwaye sobabini siprogram, silawula amanethiwekhi, i-elav designs (akayena pro, kodwa phantse), kunjalo ... izinto ezininzi ngaphandle kokusebenzisa iWindows :)
Juat?? I-Troll ibhangiwe!!
Cosiaca, andizukuba sesona salathisi sibalaseleyo kodwa kufuneka nditsho ukuba kusapho lwam sineencwadana ezi-6 kunye neeMacs ezi-2, kwaye ndingomnye wabo basebenza mihla le ngeLinux, ndinokuba ndedwa kwinkampani yam endinokuyisebenzisa. kodwa ndiyakucela abanye abantu basebenzise iiWindows kuba abayazi enye into, enyanisweni abayazi iMac, ukuba ibingeyiyo i-iPhone, ngebengayazi nophawu lweApple. Njengoko benditshilo, usapho lwam lusebenzisa iLinux kumama (iminyaka engama-65) ukuya kumtshana wam oneminyaka emi-6 oyisebenzisa yonke imihla, ke ndicinga ukuba ayixhomekeke ekubeni umntu uyavuthwa okanye unamandla amakhulu okuthenga, kum iiMacs. ngoku zibuqhetseba kodwa oh akukho nto inokuyenza, ndiyakholelwa ukuba baninzi abanye abantu abafana nam abakhuthaza ukusetyenziswa kweLinux kubomi bemihla ngemihla kunye nomsebenzi kwaye yiyo loo nto ibalulekileyo ekugqibeleni kuba iyantlukwano ngakumbi kubasebenzisi, kwaye siya kuba nabasebenzisi abaqhelekileyo nabona banamava, abantu abafike kunye nabantu abakhule besebenzisa iLinux, kakuhle ngenxa ye-dreamlinux andizange ndizame le distro, ihlazo kodwa kuya kubakho abanye abazelwe kwaye kunye. imibono engcono, imibuliso guys
cosiaca….ingaba yinyani ukuba iLinux liqela nje labantu elingenanto yokwenza??
Fumana okuncinci malunga ne-RedHat, i-SuSe, i-Oracle ... kwaye ndiza kulandela, kodwa ngobudenge bokubheja ukuba noLinus okanye i-Icaza ayisebenzisi ...
Enye eshiyayo kwaye enye ingenayo iya kuza, evela ekubeni nokuhanjiswa kweLinux okuninzi, kuba yinto enomtsalane kakhulu iLinux enayo, kwabanye, iyayiphazamisa kudidi lwayo. Oko kuya kuba sisihloko esihle sokuxoxa.
Ndiya kuhlala ndiyikhusela into yokuba kukho iitoni zokwabiwa. Ngaphaya koko, uninzi lukhetha enye yezona zidumileyo kwaye yiyo. Inyani yokuba kukho iintlelo ezininzi zeWindows iyasiphazamisa isimo sayo kuba ubukho bayo abunakuthetheleleka.
Kukho i-distros phantse yonke into, egxile kubaphulaphuli abancinci kwaye banelise iimfuno zabo ngayo.
Iitoni ze-distros aziyithathi phantsi i-Linux, kodwa aziyiyo inzuzo. Zininzi ii-clone distros ezingafaki nto. I-Distros elwa omnye nomnye kumsebenzisi ofanayo, enikezela into enye kunye nefilosofi efanayo. Oko akuncedi uphuhliso lwe-GNU/Linux. Oko kuphinda-phinda iinzame ngokomlibo.
Ayiphindi iinzame kuba zijolise kumaqela ahlukeneyo abasebenzisi, kwaye oku kuvelisa ulwazi.
Ngaba ucebisa ukuba zonke ii-distros zijolise kumaqela ahlukeneyo abasebenzisi? Ukuba ucinga ukuba awulunganga. Kukho i-Debian-based distros ene-Xfce engahlukanga enye kwenye. Ayisibali ezinye izinto eziphuma kuBuntu. Ungandixelela ukuba loluphi ulwazi oluvelisayo.
Abaphindi iinzame kuba ezi distros zahlukeneyo zenziwe ngamaqela okanye abantu abahlukeneyo. Ukwenziwa kwesoftware yomthombo wasimahla/evulekileyo ayiyo monolithic njengenkampani yesoftware yobunini, ifana nenethiwekhi. Ukucaphula uRaymond: "...uluntu lwe-Linux (i-kernel) lwalufana ne-bazaar ephithizelayo yaseBhabheli, ezaliswe ngabantu abaneenjongo kunye neendlela ezahlukeneyo."
http://biblioweb.sindominio.net/telematica/catedral.html
Asiphikisani malunga nokuba yenziwa njani isoftware yasimahla. Ndenze usasazo olusekwe ku-Kubuntu olungafaki galelo nantoni na kwisoftware yasimahla, kuba akukho khowudi / uyilo emitsha. Ndizibekele umda ekusebenziseni umsebenzi wabanye. Kukho abo benza okufanayo ngokubonelela iilogo ezintsha kunye namagama. Enkosi kwiilayisensi zasimahla singakwazi ukudibanisa ngokulula ii-distros zabanye abantu. Inokwenziwa kodwa ayiloncedo okanye ayinaxabiso. Ukuba abantu abasebenza kwi-distros efanayo badityaniswe kunye ukuze baphucule iprojekthi efanayo, baya kufumana impumelelo enkulu. Inani elikhulu le-distros yinto embi malunga ne-GNU/Linux. Ububi obuncinci obubangelwa yinkululeko.
http://masquepeces.com/windousico/2012/09/la-disgregacion-de-gnulinux-no-se-puede-llamar-diversidad/
Kuyinyani ukuba isivumelwano kwiiprojekthi zinokuba luncedo kwinkqubela phambili yazo, kodwa ke iyantlukwano (okanye ukuqhekeka) akuyongxaki kodwa kukungabikho kwesivumelwano phakathi kwabantu okanye uluntu lwesoftware yasimahla, ubuninzi bedistros okanye iiprojekthi ezifanayo sisiphumo, uphawu. Ukuba senza isifaniso kunye neenkqubo zezopolitiko sinokuthi ubuzwilakhe bunqweneleka kakhulu kunedemokhrasi, kuba okokuqala kukho iqela elinye kwaye wonke umntu (kakuhle, kungekhona bonke) "udonsa" kwicala elifanayo kwaye okwesibini. bayaphindaphindeka.amaqela, uninzi lwawo aneengcamango ezifanayo (apha eArgentina ekhohlo liqhekeke libe ngamaqela amaninzi kwaye esi sesinye sezigxeko ezijoliswe kuyo). Njengoko usitsho, yonke into sisiphumo senkululeko kwaye ekuphela kwendlela yokongeza kukuvumelana, ndivumelana noko, kodwa andinalungelo lokugxeka okwenziwa ngabanye ngenkululeko abanikwa yisoftware yasimahla. Ndiyabulisa.
Ubuzwilakhe ≠ Idemokhrasi ≠ Isiphithiphithi.
Ukubulisa
Ukuba sijonga ngokusondeleyo, i-software yamahhala "intshukumo" i-anarchic, akukho ziko lamandla, akukho gunya; Kuxhomekeke kwinkululeko yokuzikhethela kwabantu ukuba banxulumane omnye nomnye ukuze basebenze kwinto abafana ngayo (isoftware ekhutshiweyo, eyeyawo wonke umntu kodwa ingeyomntu othile ngokukodwa). Ewe ndithatha isiphithiphithi ngokwezopolitiko, hayi njengesithethantonye sokuphazamiseka okanye ukungalungelelani. Ndiyabulisa kwaye ndiyabulela ngentetho.
Ukuba kukho ulwabiwo oluninzi luqhelekileyo, lwendalo kwaye luyingxenye yenkqubo yokuzivelela. Ingqikelelo "yoKhetho lweNdalo" isebenza ngokugqibeleleyo apha: Kuphela abanamandla baya kusinda. Ngokulula njengendalo ngokwayo. Ukugxeka oku kufana nokugxeka ukuba kukho iindidi ezininzi zeentaka okanye iintlanzi. Yintoni oyikhathaleleyo ukuba zingaphi iintlobo okanye i-Linux distros ekhoyo? Makube njalo kwaye indalo ithathe isigqibo sokuba yeyiphi eyona ilungileyo. Ndiyibona njengeMPILO kakhulu kwaye iyinkqubo EYIMFUNEKO.
Khange ndinike uluvo lwam, ndishiye isihloko sivuliwe. Leliphi ngokuqinisekileyo elifanele inqaku elahlukileyo, awucingi?
+1 Iyantlukwano ikhona ngenxa yenkululeko. Iyantlukwano esezantsi ingabonisa ukuba isoftware yasimahla ayisavusi umdla ongako. Kwaye oku andithethi ukuba akulunganga ukuba kukho imigangatho kunye nokuvumelana kwezinye iingongoma, kodwa ezo ngongoma ziqhelekileyo zinokuvela kuphela kwimvumelwano efanayo kwindawo yenkululeko. Ndiyabulisa.
Cosiaca Ndicinga ukuba awulunganga kwizimvo zakho, ungabi ngutata ngaphezu kwe-POPE, kuba iLinux isetyenziswa ngamaqumrhu amaninzi kwaye akukhona nje ngenxa yeendleko kodwa ngenxa yeenzuzo zayo.
Unjani.
Kulihlazo ukuba le distro ayisekho ukuqhubeka. Ndayisebenzisa kwakudala (inguqulo ye-3 ndicinga) kwaye ndishiywe ngumbono omnandi.
Nangona unikezelo lufika kwaye luhamba ngamanye amaxesha, kunzima ukuvuma ukuba umntu uyanyamalala, mhlawumbi kungekhona ngenxa yempembelelo yayo kwinani labasebenzisi kodwa kwinto yokuba abanye babo baneempawu ezikhethekileyo kunye neempawu zabo.
Unyanisile ngokupheleleyo... indenza ndikhumbule indlela endaziva ndimbi ngayo ngetyala likaPardus elalinayo yonke into ekwindawo yalo ukuba ibe ludumo kunye nokuhanjiswa kwereferensi kwaye ndijonge ukuba yaphela njani.
Othandekayo, ndivumelana nawe, ukukhumbula imeko kaPardus kundenza buhlungu kakhulu, kwaye ndicinga ukuba ndincedise ekubhaleni iWikis, ekwenzeni ukuba yaziwe kwiiforamu, kwaye ndiyifake ngempumelelo kwiikhompyuter ezininzi zabahlobo ... kulihlazo ukuphulukana ne-distro entle kangaka. Into enhle kukuba sele beqalile ukufaka ikhowudi yePardus (Kaptan, Comar) kwezinye i-distros / iiprojekthi, ngoko kusishiya ilifa elikhulu. . I-Pardus ayifanga ngokupheleleyo...kukho iprojekthi edadayo ebizwa ngokuba yi-Anka... ^^
Ndisebenzise le distro okwethutyana kwaye ngayo ndabhalisa abahlobo abambalwa ukuze babe nemihlali ngokusebenzisa iLinux. Ndicinga ukuba lihlazo ukuba i-distros efana nale ilahlekile. Kodwa njengoko abanye besithi iphantse yafana nocwangco phakathi kwabo bafikayo kunye nabo bahambayo.
Phakathi kwabanye, yeyiphi iDock egqibe ukusebenzisa le distro?
Ndingatsho ngokunyanisekileyo ukuba iDreamlinux yenye yosasazo apho
Ezi zizinto ezindoyikisayo malunga ne-distros encinci. Ukuba ngokungabi noluntu olukhulu lophuhliso, ukuba umntu uyasilela, kuphelile. Bendicinga ngokutshintsha iArch yam endiyithandayo yeManjaro okwethutyana (andikwazanga ukuhlaziya i-kernel iinyanga kuba indishiya ndingenayo ikhibhodi okanye i-touchpad), kuba ndilingeka ngakumbi ukuba ndizame i-semi- ukuqengqeleka enye endinika uzinzo ngakumbi (kwaye hayi, ayisebenzi kum Chakra kuba andinako ukumelana KDE), ukususela ixesha lam usebenzisa iPC lancitshiswa kakhulu, kodwa ngaphandle kokuphulukana zonke iingenelo Arch. Kodwa ngezi izinto ongazazi. Ndicinga ukuba okwangoku eyona nto ilungileyo kukuqhubeka phantsi komthunzi we-distro enkulu njengeArch.
Kuyinyani ukuba ngamanye amaxesha kunokuba yingxaki ukuba ne-distros ezininzi, kodwa ekugqibeleni uninzi, abo bangabaniki nto intsha (ayisoloko njengakwimeko yePardus), bayanyamalala kwaye kuphela ezona zibalaseleyo zihlala zinenyani. into yokunikezela, into eyahlukileyo nokuba kungenxa yeembono, indlela yokusebenza okanye iteknoloji. Ngoko ayinakubonwa njengengxaki yokwenyani. Kwihlabathi leLinux, uninzi lwabasebenzisi lusebenzisa Ubuntu kunye/okanye izinto eziphuma kuzo ezifana noKubuntu, njl., Linux Mint, Arch, Fedora, Debian, Chakra, Slackware, openSUSE, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS.
Kolu lwantlukwano ungabona inkululeko yokwenyani enikezelwa yiLinux kunye nomthombo ovulekileyo kunye neenzuzo zabo ezingenakubalwa.
Sithandwa, kum kubonakala ngathi ukuba neyantlukwano eninzi ayiyondawo yokudibanisa njengoko abaninzi besithi, kum kukuthabatha, phakathi konikezelo kukho iyantlukwano emininzi (zombini kwiipakethe zokufakela, iindlela zokuqhuba iinkqubo, njl. njl.), kuba Umzekelo kukho iipakethi ze-RPM ezenzelwe ukuba ziqhube kwi-FEDORA kwaye zingaqhubeki kwi-Mandriva okanye kwi-ROSA, ngoko ngamanye amaxesha into esinayo yi-OS entsha ngokupheleleyo, eyahlukileyo, akusekho ngathi sithe siqhuba i-LINUX.
Ndaqala ukubukela i-Linux ngaphezu kweminyaka eyi-10 edlulileyo kwaye ndaqala nge-RedHAt nge-KDE, kwabonakala kulungile kum kodwa njengoko ndibona ezinye izinikezelo ndahlala ndizama, de ndafumana iMandrake (ngelo xesha) kwaye yayinobuhlobo kakhulu kodwa ndineengxaki. ngabaqhubi besandi. Ndiye ndahamba ngezabelo ezininzi de ekugqibeleni ndabuyela kuWin, kule meko ndahlala kuWin7 (ezinzile, andinangxaki yomsebenzi), ndafumana uBuntu, kodwa xa betshintshela kuManyano kwabonakala kunzima kakhulu kwaye ndathatha isigqibo. ukubuyela ku-Win 7 kwakhona.
Ewe, ukuvavanya kunye nokuvavanya ukusabalalisa konke endikubonayo, ndifumene i-MINT, iqinile, ikhawuleza, inobubele, kodwa ekugqibeleni iphantse ibe yi-Ubuntu, i-desktop ye-cinnamon ilungile nangona isafuna ukuvuthwa, ndiyathemba ukuba kwinguqulo elandelayo. kuya kuba ngcono kakhulu. Ukuze ndingalandi isihloko, ngaphantsi kwenyanga eyi-1 eyadlulayo ndifumene iROSA Entsha ka-2012, lunikezelo lwaseRussia (olusekwe kwi madriva), isebenzisa i KDE elungiswayo ngabo, kwaye okwangoku yeyona nto ndiyisebenzisayo kweyam. umsebenzi, iza nazo zonke iiphakheji eziyimfuneko Ukuze usebenze, yaqaphela yonke i-hardware kwii-laptops ezi-3 ezahlukeneyo ezivela kwi-DELL, i-HP kunye ne-SAMSUNG brand (le yeyona nto intsha, i-DELL ivela malunga ne-4 kwiminyaka edlulileyo okanye ngaphezulu).
Inyaniso kukuba ngoku ndiziva ndikhululekile ngolu sasazo kwaye kwinto endiyifundayo yinkampani yaseRashiya esebenza kunye nezisombululo ezininzi ze-Linux, bade bathengise inguqulelo yeeseva ezisekelwe kwiREDHAT.
Ngamafutshane, njengoko besithi, ukuhanjiswa kuyafika kwaye kuhambe kodwa ndicinga ukuba ayisiyiyo ingcamango leyo, njengomsebenzisi ofuna ukuba ne-OS ezinzileyo, enobuhlobo enenkxaso elungileyo, akuncedi kum ukuba ngomso "umntu" uyeza. phezulu ngombono wokukhulula usasazo olutsha olusebenza kakuhle kum kodwa ukuba kwiminyaka embalwa luyanyamalala, abaninzi baya kuthi kakuhle, khangela enye, kodwa kwinkampani awukwazi ukutsiba ekusasazeni ngolo hlobo. , kwinkampani kwindawo yeenkqubo sele kukho umsebenzi omninzi wokukhangela ukuhanjiswa okutsha kunye nokuzama ukubenza basebenze nge-hardware ekhoyo.
Ukuqukumbela, ndicinga ukuba phakathi konikezelo lweLinux akufuneki kubekho zininzi kangako, ukuba zininzi zimele zibe ngeenjongo ezithile (iiseva, abasebenzisi basekhaya, abasebenzisi bequmrhu, imidlalo, njl. njl. kuzo kufuneka babe nomgangatho, into etshintsha ukuhanjiswa ndisekwi Linux kwaye akubonakali ngathi ndiya kwenye OS.
Luluvo lwam oluthobekileyo olusekwe kumava endinawo ngeLinux kunye nonikezelo endiluzamile.
Ndiyavumelana nezimvo zakho, kwaye ndicinga ukuba igama eliphambili lisemgangathweni, kufuneka kubekho isivumelwano, akunamsebenzi ukuba leliphi ithala leencwadi abaza kulisebenzisa, kodwa ayinamsebenzi ukuba idatha iya kusebenza njani (ukwenza umzekelo) ukuququzelela imisebenzi ethile kubaphuhlisi babaqhubi. Umzekelo, ngendlela iLinux yintlekisa yeqela "labantwana" abafuna ukuqhubeka nokuba sisazulu sengqwalasela kodwa akukho mntu wazi kakhulu malunga neemfihlo zabo ngaphandle kokuba " iklabhu yomthombo ovulekileyo"- iingqondo ezivaliweyo, ndithi kuni, qhubekani. Ukugxininisa ekufuneni ukuxelela wonke umntu indlela abafanele benze ngayo izinto, kodwa into yokudlala yaphuma esandleni, iLinux inayo yonke into ibe yinkqubo ebaluleke kakhulu yokusebenza, kodwa kukho abantu abaninzi abanomdla wokuyigcina injalo, ukuze bakwazi “ukuqhubeka bengoweqela elikhethiweyo” (ubuvuvu obusulungekileyo bolutsha olufikisayo). Kwelinye icala, iinkampani azifuni kuphela inkqubo ebonelela ngokhuseleko oluthile, abasebenzisi bayayenza nabo, kwaye esi sesinye sezizathu eziphambili zokuba kutheni iLinux isilele ukuzibeka kwindawo yentengiso yedesktop kwaye ilwe lokwenyani ngokuchasene neWindows. , Ndisebenze kwi-computing ukususela kwiminyaka eyi-17 edlulileyo, ndisebenzise kwaye ndilandele ukuphuhliswa kweLinux ukususela ekuqaleni kwayo kwaye ndihambe ngeendlela ezininzi (iMandrake, iCorel Linux, iConectiva, i-Red Hat emva koko i-Slackware, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuse, Mint, I-Dreamlinux, i-PClinxOS, kunye noluhlu luqhubeka. elide kakhulu), i-Mandriva (namhlanje i-Mageia kunye ne-Rosa) kunye ne-Mint bezisoloko ziyinto endiyithandayo (Ewe, enye i-Red Hat - i-Kde kunye ne-Debian - i-Gnome) ngesizathu esilula: I baye bakwazi ukwenza yonke into isebenze ngaphandle kweengxaki ezininzi, baye bazinza kwaye baye bandivumela ukuba ndisebenze ngaphandle kweengxaki ekuhambeni kwexesha. Ndicinga ukuba iyantlukwano ilungile kodwa ingeyiyo inkcitho yomsebenzi ilize okanye ukungabikho kombono wekamva (imigangatho yeLinux) eya kuthi ixhamle abavelisi behardware kuphuhliso lwabaqhubi kunye neenkampani ezithathela ingqalelo imbono yokutshintshela. Vula Umnikezi . Ndisacinga ukuba enye yeempazamo ezimbi kakhulu zezi Linux "abantwana" kukuba benza impazamo enkulu ngokugatya inkampani efana neCorel xa izama ukutshintshela kwisoftware yasimahla, ukuza kuthi ga namhlanje sonke sihlawula loo mpazamo. Okokugqibela, ndiyaxolisa kakhulu ukuba i-distro efana ne-Dreamlinux ebonelele ngenkqubo ezinzileyo, ekholisa iliso kunye nokukhethwa kwesoftware ebalaseleyo ayinakho ukuqhubeka.
Andizange ndicinge ukuba ndingazifunda ezi ndaba; Bekunzima kum ukuyifumana kuba ukhutshelwa kwayo ayisafumaneki kwaye ndibhala le bendigqiba ukuyifakela; Ndiye ndaqala ndafuna ulwazi lokufaka izicelo ndadibana neendaba ezi... Zibuhlungu nyani shame...