2 Iindaba ezimfutshane zeDebian

Ngakolunye uhlangothi, emva kokhetho oluphikisana kakhulu kwiinyanga zakutshanje, iKomiti yezoBugcisa yamkelekile 3 amalungu amatsha. Babengekho uColin Watson, uIan Jackson, kunye noRuss Allbery. Ngoku faka uSam Hartman, uTollef Fog Heen kunye noDidier 'OdyX' Raboud. Ngaphezu koko, ngoDisemba ophelileyo baye benza njalo isisombululo esongezelelweyo jikelele apho kwagqitywa ukuba uhlaziyo lwamalungu luya kuba njani.

UJigdo Debian

Omnye, malunga nemeko kaJessie, kuphela 50 RC bugs eseleyo ezichaphazela i-jessie kunye ne-sid, kwaye ukuba abantu basonga imikhono yabo banokukhulula i-Debian Jessie ngo-Epreli. Kwezo zi-50, i-13 ziiphakheji ezingezizo ezingundoqo eziya kususwa kwi-jessie ukuba azisonjululwanga. Ukongeza, uphuculo oluthile alukho kumanqaku okukhululwa, ngakumbi icandelo lokubuyisela kwi-systemd. Bakwafuna uncedo kwiimpazamo ezithile kwi-grub2.


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  1.   enye yazo sitsho

    Ngokunyaniseka, oko ndaqala i-systemd e-Jessie ekuphela kwento endiyibonayo ziingxaki ezingazange zenzeke e-Jessie kungekudala, ezinje ngeengozi kunye neengozi ngaphandle kwesizathu esicacileyo ukuya kuthi ga kwinqanaba lokuvalwa ngocelemba kwaye eyam inokuba ilungisiwe, uqala kwaye yiloo nto, kodwa kukho ukuphambuka okunje https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00013.html ebonisa ukuba kukho into embi eyenzekayo kwaye i-debian ayisiyiyo le nto yayiyiyo ngaphambili.

    Njengomsebenzisi weDebian kunyaka ophelileyo bendinethemba elikhulu ngale nguqulo kuba ibisebenza kakuhle kwaye ngaphandle kweengxaki kodwa utshintsho olwenziwayo lubi kakhulu kwi-distro kwaye ayisiyiyo loo nto kuphela, kuthiwa iya kuba neselinux Ukungagqibeki okuyinkunkuma, eneneni into yokuqala eyenziwa ngumsebenzisi we-fedora (kunye nomncedisi xa i-fedora ifakiwe) iyenza ingasebenzi ngokuchanekileyo kuba impembelelo enayo kwinkqubo yokusebenza inoburhalarhume ngaphandle kokungazinzi kwayo, kunye nomatshini olungileyo abanye baphumelele. Uyakuqaphela ukwehla kwentsebenzo kodwa nge-P4@2Ghz ene-Gb enye yenkunzi yegusha efana nam iyabonakala.

    Okwangoku ndiza kuhlala kwi-Wheezy de kuphume u-Devuan, endiye ndazama kwaye ndiyathembisa, ukuba akunjalo, ukuba ndiyaqhubeka kwi-Linux ndiza kutshintshela kwi-OpenSUSE ehamba kakuhle kwaye ukuba akunjalo ndiya kulahla yonke into kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo ndiye I-FreeBSD endiyibonileyo kwaye ihamba njengokudubula.

    Ngapha koko, ndiyathemba ukuba uDebian uza kuyenza kunye ngaphandle koko ndiza kuthi ndlelantle ngokusisigxina (RIP)

    1.    Carlos sitsho

      Ngaba ukhalaza nge-systemd kwaye ngenxa yomsindo wakho uya kwenye i-distro esebenzisa inkqubo efana ne-opensuse? Inene andiyiqondi. Isihloko se-systemd siyadinisa kakhulu, ngakumbi xa iimantra ziphindaphindwa ngokuphindaphindiweyo kwaye akukho mpikiswano inyanzelisayo inikezelwayo. I-Debian, njenge-Arch edunyiswa kakhulu kunye nokuhanjiswa okuphambili, zonke zifudukele kwi-systemd kwaye akukho nto yenzekayo. Nditsho nefowuni yam eneSailfishOS, apho ndibhala khona la mazwi kwaye ndonwabe kakhulu, iyayisebenzisa. Ukuphazamiseka kunye neempazamo ziqhelekile kuJessie, yiyo loo nto isekwi-beta. Asiyonto ingaphakathi kule init system. Okoko bendisebenzisa ukuhanjiswa nge-systemd khange ndibe nangxaki. Kwaye njengomsebenzisi, ngaphandle kokungena kwimiba yobugcisa engeyiyo mna okanye i-99% yethu apha, ndifumene uncedo kuphela. Ndiyabulisa.

      1.    iyeva sitsho

        Yeyiphi inombolo yefowuni onayo ukuba ndingabuza? 😀

      2.    enye yazo sitsho

        Makhe sibone, ndiyazicaphula "ukusukela ndaqala inkqubo eJessie."

        Khange ndithethe nto malunga nenye i-distros ene-systemd kwaye endihlala ndiyisebenzisa ukongeza kwi-Debian, ngokubanzi xa ndingasebenzisi i-Debian ndikwi-Fedora (nangona ndingakhange ndichukumise uguqulelo lwamva nje) kwaye ndivuleSUSE nangona ndinayo. wasebenzisa abanye, njengoninzi lwabantu abasebenzisa iLinux.

        Uyithathaphi into yokuba ndiyithiyile inkqubo? Amagqabantshintshi am onke asekelwe ekuveleni okubi kakhulu okuye kwavela kwi-systemd kwi-debian, andizange ndithethe nantoni na malunga nezinye i-distros okanye i-systemd, ndithetha kuphela kwaye ngokukodwa malunga ne-debian (ngaphandle kwe-selinux) yile nto inqaku lithetha ngayo ngolu hlobo mna. andazi ukuba uyithatha phi ingxabano yakho.

        Ndisebenzisa i-Debian esuka kwi-Etch kwaye njengomsebenzisi ndinelungelo lokucatshukiswa yi-distro ukuba kude kube ngunyaka odlulileyo isebenze njengekhubalo kwaye ngoku iqhuba njengesihogo. Inyani yokuba ikwisigaba se-beta ayindincedi kuba baninzi abasebenzisi abahlala ngokusisigxina kuvavanyo nakwi-SID. Mna ngokwam bendivavanywa ixesha elide kwaye into eyenzekayo ngoJessie ayizange yenzeke kum ngaphambili kwaye ayindim ndedwa, kuGoogle kancinci kwaye uza kubona.

        Ukhetho lwam lwe-OpenSUSE lubangelwa yi-distros endiyizamileyo, embalwa, njengoninzi lwabo bamisa apha, kungenxa yokuba ayikaze indinike iingxaki, ngakumbi ukungqubana kunye nokuntlitheka okufana nale yenzekayo. mna noJessie.

        Ukhetho lwam lweDevuan kungenxa yokuba ndiyayithanda indlela ayiyo uDebian kwaye aba bantu bathembisa ukuba noJessie njengoko kwakunjalo de kube malunga nonyaka odlulileyo, oko kukuthi, ukusebenza njengesilika njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili.

        Ngokuphathelele i-FreeBSD, lukhetho nje, ubuncinci bayayazi into abayifunayo kwaye i-OS abayiphuhlisayo isebenza njengekhubalo, nangona ukufakela kunye noqwalaselo kubuhlungu kancinci.

    2.    dhunter sitsho

      Kwaye ndicinga ukuba uzithatha njengo "magqala unix admin" nawe...

      Bendicinga ukuba le nzondo ye-systemd sele idlulile kodwa ndiyabona ukuba izothatha ixesha, bendisebenzisa uJessie oko bendisenayo iSysVInit, ndiphucule ngeengxaki zero, andinasikhalazo tu, iDebian 8 iyahamba. ukuba ukhululo olukhulu, Akukho nto uyenzayo ngaphandle kokusasaza iFUD ngelize.

      1.    enye yazo sitsho

        Andiyazi into endiyithethileyo kwisithuba sam esikhokelele kweso sigqibo.

        Ndicinga ukuba kwimpendulo yam kuCarlos ndiyenze yacaca, ke mhlawumbi uya kuqonda ukuthanda kwam uDevuan.

        Nangona kunjalo, ndikuxelela into efanayo njengaye, ndikhankanye i-systemd NYE kuphela kwingxelo yonke nakwindawo kaJessie, kubonakala ngathi uyalibona elo gama kwaye sele utsiba njengentwasahlobo ebeka izinto emlonyeni wam ENGINGAZI. esithi. Kungenxa yokuba awukhange uzihluphe ngokufunda uluvo lwam ngokuchanekileyo kwaye unobungqina kwisivakalisi sakho sokuqala, ungandixelela ukuba uyifumana phi loo mbono, ngokufutshane, ukubona kukukholelwa.

      2.    mario sitsho

        Kutheni nobabini kunye nomsebenzisi ongentla nifikelela kwisigqibo sokuba "bayithiyile" inkqubo? Ngokungathi kukho amacala amabini kuphela: umhlobo okanye utshaba. Inokuba lula ukuba ngumsebenzisi ogqibe kwelokuba akayihoyi (okanye akabazi ubukho bayo) kwaye aqhubeke esebenzisa i-debian ngezinye izizathu. Andiyiboni i-systemd ibaluleke kangaka ekwahluleni abantu.

      3.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Ndiyikhuphile i-Systemd kwi-Debian Jessie kuba ndiqaphele ukuba iphazamise kakhulu kwiinkqubo ezininzi, ukongeza ekuthinteleni iinkqubo ezinje ngothungelwano kunye nelogi yayo yokubini indenze ndacinga ukuba ndizakube ndibuyela kwakwingxaki efanayo yesiporho i-MBR. Ndihlupheke ngeWindows XP, ndiye ndabuyela eSysVinit kwaye umcimbi walungiswa (ubusikelele, SysV). Ingxaki iba enye (uxolo ngogaxekile), kodwa okwangoku andinakufumana nantoni na eyenza i-Debian Wheezy's XFCE iphahlazeke).

        Ngapha koko, ilangatye kunye nengxoxo-mpikiswano zixoxwe kumsonto weforamu endiyithumelayo.

    3.    yukiteru sitsho

      Hahahaha ndaye ndaxela loo bug ngesinye isihlandlo, kwaye ndade ndabonisa kakhulu kwezinye iingxoxo eziye zahlala apha eDL malunga ne-systemd, abaninzi bayichithile kwaye abanye abazange bayimise, ngoku bayabona ukuba ngokwenene ibuhlungu. leyo systemd inomjikelo ongapheliyo elinde iyunithi ngokucacileyo ayidityaniswanga kwinkqubo ngexesha elithile.

      1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Ndiyitshintshe nge-SysV kuba bendisoyika ukufumana iibhinari zelog endaweni yeelog eziqhelekileyo.

      2.    yukiteru sitsho

        @eliotime3000 ndisenenkqubo eqhelekileyo kwaye ndineDebian kuba iGentoo/Funtoo yam yasweleka ngenxa yokusweleka kwehard drive yam eyayisele ineminyaka eliqela yedabi.

        Inyani yeyokuba i-systemd ngamanye amaxesha indenza ndiphambane ngeempazamo ezisileyo, kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo kwi-Debian uJessie sele eqalisile ukusebenza ngcono kunangaphambili, engazisusiyo iziphene ezaziwayo enazo kwaye ayisusi ukuba nkulu kangakanani.

      3.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Kuphuculo oluqhubekayo, ndiyayingqina into oyithethayo, kuba ngexesha lerekhodi baye basombulula ingxaki ye-GLAMOR kubaqhubi be-Intel, kodwa xa kufikwa ekuzinziseni i-LibDRM, kubonakala ngathi bayijijekile.

    4.    yukiteru sitsho

      Ukuthatha kwizimvo zakho @unodetantos:

      «... kuthiwa iya kuba ne-selinux isebenze ngokungagqibekanga eyinkunkuma, eneneni into yokuqala eyenziwa ngumsebenzisi we-fedora (kunye neseva xa ifakwe i-fedora) iyenza ingasebenzi ngokuchanekileyo kuba impembelelo enayo ekusebenzeni kwenkqubo. ikhohlakele ngaphandle kwendlela engazinzanga ngayo..."

      1.- Ngaba i-SELinux inempembelelo enamandla ekusebenzeni kwenkqubo? Ndifumanisa ngale nto. Ndisebenzise oomatshini bomntu kunye neeseva ezine-SELinux okanye i-AppArmor evuliwe (i-Fedora, Ubuntu, i-OpenSUSE) kwaye impembelelo enjalo ayinanto, okwangoku le Debian Jessie endisebenza kuyo ine-AppArmor esebenzayo (i-SELinux ine-bug enkulu evimbela ukusebenza kwayo ukuba kunokutsala ezinye iipakethe kwi-SID, ibug ekufuneka ibale njenge-BUG RC). Akunjalo ngenxa yokuba i-SELinux okanye i-AppArmor yenza inkqubo icothe, ngenxa yokuba. Ngaphaya koko, i-P4@2.6 Ghz ngaphandle kwe-HT ayisiyonto ilungileyo kakhulu yokusetyenziswa kwikhompyuter yakho ngaphandle kokuba usebenzisa i-wm efana ne-OpenBOX okanye eyoyikekayo.

      2.- Khubaza i-SELinux? Onjani umlinganiselo. I-SELinux okanye i-AppArmor, zombini ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo iyayitshintsha indlela inkqubo yokusebenza enokuziphatha ngayo, ikuthintele ekwenzeni izinto ezinokuthathwa njengeyingozi kwaye uninzi lwazo, ngamanyathelo okhuseleko agqwesileyo kwishishini nakwinqanaba lomntu, ngokuqwalasela ukuba Izisongelo zekhompyuter azihloniphi nokuba usebenza okanye awusebenzi eofisini. Ngalo lonke ixesha ndibona izimvo ezinje ndikhumbula eli phepha: http://stopdisablingselinux.com/

      Ndiyabulisa mhlobo wam

      1.    enye yazo sitsho

        Inyaniso kukuba umahluko phakathi kwe-AppArmor kunye ne-SELinux ekusebenzeni mkhulu kumatshini othobekileyo kwaye nangona injongo yezicelo zombini iyafana, indlela eziye zaphuhliswa ngayo ziyahluka.

        Kwimeko yam ethile, nokuba ndinayo okanye andinayo i-AppArmor esebenzayo okanye hayi, ayibonakali kwi-openSUSE, inkqubo iqala ngokukhawuleza kwaye ayikaze indinike nayiphi na imiyalezo yempazamo okanye izilumkiso, oko kukuthi, yenza le nto iyenzayo. imelwe kukwenza kwaye iyayenza. Nangona kunjalo, nge-SELinux kwi-Fedora into yokuqala oyibonayo kukuba kuthatha imizuzwana emininzi ukuqala kwaye isilumkiso esiqhelekileyo kunye nomfanekiso omncinci owonwabileyo othi ayiphumelelanga uvela rhoqo kunokuba kufanele.

        Ngapha koko, ukhetho lwam yiAppArmor ngenxa yale nto bendiyichazile ngaphambili. Ndinqwenela ukuba i-Debian ibe nayo ngokungagqibekanga ukusukela ekubeni i-distro enozinzo olukhulu kufuneka isebenzise eyona izinzileyo kwaye ithathela ingqalelo ukuba zombini izicelo zinenjongo efanayo, kuya kucaca kakhulu kum.

        Ndiyaphinda, kumatshini wanamhlanje, oko kukuthi, i-multicore, i-SSD disks kunye ne-4 gigabytes ye-RAM, usenokungaqondi nokuba icotha, kodwa kwinto ethozamileyo iyabonakala nangona ndine-HT esebenzayo.

        Kwimeko nayiphi na imeko, kwiphepha le-SUSE kukho uthelekiso oluthetha ngaphezulu okanye ngaphantsi okufanayo kuzo zonke ezikwiwebhu kodwa lubonakala ngakumbi kwaye lunokubonwa ngcono, ukuba nabani na onomdla unokufunda kuyo. https://www.suse.com/support/security/apparmor/features/selinux_comparison.html

      2.    yukiteru sitsho

        Uchanekile, indlela yokusebenza kwe-AppArmor kunye ne-SELinux yahluke kakhulu. Umzekelo; Ndiyakwazi ukukhankanya ukuba i-AppArmor isekela ulawulo lwayo kwi-pathname kwaye isengozini yokuhlaselwa kwe-TOCTU, kwaye i-SELinux iyacotha ekubhaleni kwakhona i-FS kodwa ulawulo lwayo kwinkqubo iyonke. Oko kunika nganye okulungileyo kunye nokungalunganga, nangona ngokobuchwephesha i-SELinux iphezulu kakhulu ngokolawulo lwayo kunye nokhuseleko lwamandla.

        Ngoku, into yokuba i-SELinux ithande ukusilela kwiimeko ezinqabileyo inento yokwenza nobunzima bayo, indlela yayo yokwenza kunye nento esiyenzayo kwinkqubo. Xa i-SELinux ivuliwe kwimodi ethile (imvume okanye ukunyanzeliswa), imigaqo yayo isetyenziswa KUYO YONKE into ekhoyo kwinkqubo, kwaye xa enye yaloo migaqo ingahambelani nento ethile eyenziwa yinto ethile, ngoko ke iingxaki ziqala. I-SELinux kule meko ayinakuguquguquka kakhulu kunye nantoni na engayilandeli imithetho esebenzayo, kwaye into yokuba ayiguqukiyo yinto eyenza ibe namandla kwaye icaphukise ngexesha elifanayo, yingakho ngohlaziyo ngalunye okanye utshintsho kwinkqubo. , kukho Kufuneka ukhuphele i-SELinux ukukhusela ezi nkcukacha ukuba zingagqithiswa kwaye kufuneka ubone isilumkiso sokuba i-SELinux ibone ukuphulwa kokufikelela kwizinto ezithile.

        I-AppArmor, ngokwenxalenye yayo, ibhetyebhetye ngakumbi, kuba unokwenza iinkqubo ezithile zisebenze kwimodi yokukhalaza, ezinye zikwimowudi yophicotho okanye imo yokunyanzelisa. Nganye kwezi zibini ziya kuqhuba ngendlela echazwe kwaye oko kukuvumela ukuba ulawule inkqubo ngaphandle kweengxaki ezininzi. Ngomahluko wokuba ayisiyiyo yonke inkqubo elawulwa ngokungagqibekanga, kwaye kukho iibhinari ezininzi ezingekho phantsi kolawulo lokunyanzeliswa kwe-AppArmor, kwaye oko kunokubonwa kwiiprofayile ezimbalwa zokunyanzeliswa ezikhoyo okwangoku kwi-AppArmor (ubuncinci kwi. Ubuntu kunye neDebian), ekugqibeleni ayivelisi ukhuseleko olongezelelweyo, into efunwayo xa kuvula i-MAC.

        Ukubulisa

      3.    alanado sitsho

        Heyi, kum ingathi imfundo yasesikolweni ikutyisile.
        Ngaba ukhe wathatha ikhosi yomnqwazi obomvu ngamabona-ndenzile? Inkqubo ayifuni iSELinux endala...

      4.    yukiteru sitsho

        @alunado yintoni le uyithethayo? Ngaba uyayilandela incoko? I-SELinux ngokuqinisekileyo ayifuneki ukuba i-GNU/Linux OS isebenze ngokuchanekileyo, kodwa yinkqubo egqwesileyo yokwandisa ukhuseleko lwe-OS, kunjalo, kwaye yile nto kanye sithetha ngayo apha.

        Andazi ukuba uyithathe phi loo mbono. Kwaye hayi, andizange ndithathe izifundo ze-Red Hat.

    5.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Ngaba ucinga ukuba impazamo ivela kwi-SystemD? Leyo yimpazamo ye-NetworkManager, kwaye inesisombululo sokuyidibanisa kwinethiwekhi ixesha elide, ngoko ayinayo impendulo. Ngoku, malunga neempazamo ezinzima, jonga le ngxaki, echaphazela kakhulu ukusebenza kwe-distro xa uphequlula kunye nasiphi na isikhangeli xa umntu engena kumaphepha ngeFlash Player eninzi okanye xa efikelela kwi-Facebook.

  2.   otakulogan sitsho

    Ndiphawula kwakhona, kubonakala ngathi inkqubo iginye. Ngayiphi na imeko, mhlawumbi uya kuyibona kwakhona kuba ithathe ixesha ukuyiqhuba kwaye andizange ndiyilahle.

    Ngexesha elidlulileyo ndabhala inqaku elithi "I-Debian ilahleka phakathi kwamasebe ayo." Namhlanje ndingayiqinisekisa kuphela, akukho nto ilungisiweyo kwaye ezinye iinkcukacha zimbi kakhulu.

    Phakathi kwezo zinambuzane zingama-50 zilahlekileyo ukuze uJessie aphume azinzile AKUKHO, umzekelo, ukuba abasebenzisi beNvidia Optimus abanako ukuqalisa imidlalo ethile yeSteam ngabaqhubi abangabanini ababonelelwa nguDebian ngokwakhe kwiindawo zokugcina (amakhonkco kwiingxelo zebug ezingahoywanga : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776305 y https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768045), eyenzeka kuphela nge-libdrm-intel1 uguqulelo 2.4.58, hayi yangaphambili 2.4.56. Ukucinga okuninzi malunga nedesktop yokubeka i-systemd kodwa izinto ezinje azinamsebenzi. Okanye ukuba i-aMule ayizukukhululwa ngokuzinzileyo ngenxa yokuba, ingqalelo, bahlaziye iphakheji kwi-wxWidgets 3.0, babona ukuba ayisebenzanga kwaye abafuni ukubandakanya uguqulelo lwe-wxWidgets 2.8 ngokunjalo, ngoko ngaphandle kwe-aMule. Iwayini ifakela ngaphandle kwekhonkco kwi-winecfg, ngesizathu esithile. Kwaye kuthekani ngokuxhomekeka kwithala leencwadi laseWayland? Kutheni kufuneka ndifake iWayland kunye ne-10 yethala leencwadi laseWayland ukuba andisebenzisi iWayland, kodwa iX.Org? Ngaba nabani na ondixelela ukuba uJessie uyiphucule njani i-Wheezy, ngaphandle kokuba ngoku ixhasa i-Nvidia Optimus (inkulu kum, andikwazi nje ukudlala i-Left 4 Dead 2 ngenxa ye-bug ekhankanywe ngasentla) kwaye i-Thunar ngoku ayiqhubi xa iqhaqha Ii-USB ngenxa yeTumbler? Ndibona kuphela inkqubo engcola ngokuxhomekeka okungenangqondo njenge-OpenSuSE (i-Vokoscreen ixhomekeke kwi-VLC! Kutheni? Ngaba umntu ophethe ipakethe unokuza andicacisele? Kuba ngengxelo ye-bug kucacile ukuba soze andiphendule? ).

    Bendihlala ndicinga ukuba uDebian wenze umsebenzi omkhulu ngokuba neepakethe ezininzi kwiindawo zokugcina ezisemthethweni, ukungafaki ngaphandle kwandenza ndaziva ndikhuselekile. Kodwa bandilahlile njengomsebenzisi, nokuba iyaqhubeka nokuba yinto enkulu phakathi kwama-greats. Kwaye emva kokungaphumeleli kwam ngeFreeBSD (i-0 iqala kwiinzame ezi-3 emva kofakelo olulula olulandela imiyalelo yeleta), kum kukho iSlackkware kunye neGentoo / Funtoo, endizakuqala ngayo kodwa ngoku (i-Slackware ayikakwenzi. t ukuxhasa iNvidia Optimus ngaphandle kweepakethe zangaphandle, ke yiya kwiGentoo enzima, okwangoku).

    1.    Carlos sitsho

      NdineJolla iiveki ezimbalwa ngoku. Ukuba unemibuzo / unomdla / ufuna ukuyibona iphila kwi-cam okanye nantoni na, bhala kwi-imeyile yam okanye undixelele apha ^^ (Andikhumbuli ukuba ndibeka i-imeyile efanayo kuzo zombini izimvo, ukuba ngokungathandabuzeki sebenzisa le nto inye. )

      PS: Ngaba kukho ireferensi kuJolla kwiarhente yam yomsebenzisi?

      1.    UJon ugqibe sitsho

        Asifani. —Jola

    2.    yukiteru sitsho

      @OtakuLogan, kufuneka ndongeze:

      1.- Impazamo yokuzoba kwi-xserver-xorg-video-radeon ene-Accel GLAMOR esebenzayo.
      2.- I-GCC 4.9 inezinambuzane ezingaqhelekanga, kwaye enye yezo bugs ichaphazela i-desmume yam endiyithandayo 🙁
      3.- Ngokubhekiselele kwi-Wayland, kuhle ukuba ngomnye umcimbi, kwi-Debian banomkhuba wokuvuselela phantse yonke into edibeneyo, kwaye ngokucacileyo oko kuvelisa inani elikhulu lokuxhomekeka, kwaye apho ingxaki ayikho into endiyifumanisa ingaqhelekanga, yinto. nje ukuba inkqubo apho i-Debian isebenza khona yenza ukuba kube yimfuneko kakhulu, nangona yimeko enokuphucula, umzekelo ngokuphelisa inkxaso ye-Wayland kuyo yonke into equlunqayo kwaye ibambelele ngenkxaso ye-Xorg kuphela, umsebenzi onzima kodwa ungenakwenzeka.
      4.- I-SELinux ine-bug ephambeneyo. Uyifaka, uyayivula, yonke into ibonakala ihamba ngokugqibeleleyo, kodwa xa uqala nge "SELinux esebenzayo" boom ... I-SELinux ayisebenzi kwaphela.

      Iinkcukacha, azikho iinkcukacha ezingakumbi 😀

      1.    engaziwa sitsho

        Ekuphela kwendlela endikwazi ngayo ukwaphula ukuxhomekeka ngokunyanzeliswa ngokudala iipakethe ezigcweleyo (uninzi lwexesha elingafunwayo) kukuqulunqa iipakethe zakho.
        Yidrama phakathi kokulula kunye nokuguquguquka... ukuba ufuna kube lula uya kuba newaka leepakethe zokuxhomekeka ongafuni ukuzifaka, ukuba ufuna ukuba bhetyebhetye kuya kufuneka uqokelele iipakethe zakho kuba kubonwa ukuba akukho. i-binary distro ifikelela kumsebenzi wokulahla izinto ezingasetyenziswanga yi-99% yabantu.

        Apha kuvavanyo lwe gentoo uphila ubomi obuzolileyo kakhulu...ndingathi noba boring, yonke into ihamba ngendlela ebekufanele ngayo, mva nje kukho into eyonwabisayo ngevidiyo, umntu ebecinga ukuba libav ingcono kune ffmpeg kwaye bafaka i-libav kwi. iintsuku ezimbalwa Ngokungagqibekanga... kwenziwe isiphithiphithi esikhulu, kwaya kuvotwa kwiforum kwaye ekugqibeleni kwaphumelela iffmpeg ngokudilika komhlaba.

        Kuyayonwabisa ukubona okwenzekayo nezinye i-distros, ndiyathemba ukuba iDebian inokuziphucula kwaye ibuyise abasebenzisi bayo.

    3.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Phakathi kwezo bhugi ze-50 zilahlekileyo ukuze uJessie aphume azinzile AKUKHO, umzekelo, ukuba abasebenzisi beNvidia Optimus abanako ukuqalisa imidlalo ethile yeSteam kunye nabaqhubi abangabanini ababonelelwa nguDebian ngokwakhe kwiindawo zokugcina iimpahla), ekubonakala ukuba yenzeka kuphela. ngoguqulelo lwe-libdrm-intel1 2.4.58, hayi nge-2.4.56 yangaphambili.[…]

      LibDRM evela kwi-Intel? Ngoku ndiyaqonda kutheni ndinje ibamba ISIXAXELO SONKE XFCE Nje ukuba ndiqalise ukungena kuFacebook kunye/okanye ukufaka amaphepha aneJavascript eninzi kunye/okanye iFlash Player. Ukuba kukho indlela yokwenza ipakethe ibe nokuziphatha ngaphandle kokuxhoma i-XFCE entanyeni, nceda uphendule kumsonto wam weforum.

  3.   yukiteru sitsho

    Ewe, ngokombono wam, iibhugi ezimbalwa kufuneka zongezwe kuluhlu, kuba i-Glamour kunye ne-xserver-xorg-video-radeon bug ibambe ixesha elide kwaye akukho nto ilungisiweyo.

    1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Kubonakala ngathi ayindim ndedwa oneengxaki zegraphic (nangona kwimeko yam, iGLAMOR yanyamalala emva kohlaziyo). Kwimeko yam, kubonakala ngathi i-LibDRM iyandinyathela xa uphequlula amaphepha amaninzi e-JS / Flash kwaye xa uphequlula i-Facebook.

      I-PS: Jonga izimvo zam, sele ndigaxekile ikhonkco ngaphandle kokuphelelwa lithemba ukufumana isisombululo njengokungathi ndiyi-Scheherazade evela kwi-opera yase-Turkish yesepha "Iwaka Eliwaka kunye nobusuku obunye."

  4.   kik1n sitsho

    Hahaha nam ndizokhalaza.
    Kudala ndisebenzisa uvavanyo lwe-Debian unyaka omnye kwaye isebenze kakuhle. Kodwa ke, impazamo emva kwempazamo; ividiyo, clementine, java, audio, vlc kunye neXfce (qt imixholo).
    Ndize ndayithanda kuba yonke into "I-Auto-configured" kwaye ayizange iphule, kodwa ngoku igcwele i-Bugs endingakwazi ukusebenza kuyo. Yintoni engcono kunokubuyela kwiArch kunye neFedora (i-Centos yeeseva).

    1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Ngokumalunga neaudio, java, VLC kunye neClementine, andinangxaki. Kodwa owona mceli mngeni wam kukusombulula kube kanye Kutheni i-desktop yam ye-XFCE ijinga xa ubrawuza iiwebhusayithi ezininzi ngeJavascript/Flash Player/Facebook?.

      1.    kik1n sitsho

        Mmm inokuba kungenxa yezixhobo zevidiyo ozisebenzisayo. Yenzekile kum nge-chrome, andikwazanga ukuyisebenzisa ngokukhawulezisa ividiyo kunye ne-xfce.
        Masinwabe : )

  5.   rolo sitsho

    Iyamangalisa !!!! Ngalo lonke ixesha isithuba malunga neDebian sipapashwa kule bhlog, iqela leembono ze-anti-Debian libonakala lisasaza ubuxoki babo obungathandekiyo, bezama ukungafaneleki inkqubo yokusebenza yehlabathi.

    Kodwa njengoko uAristotle watshoyo, inyani ekuphela kwayo yinyani, kwaye inyani yeyokuba uDebian Jessie usebenza njengomama okhohlakeleyo nangona engazinzanga okwangoku 😉

    Kuyathakazelisa ukuba uninzi lwaba anti-debians bazichaze njengabasebenzisi beDebian kwaye bahlala besithi kungekudala baya kutshintshela kwiDevuan, Slackware, FreeBSD, Gentoo, njl. Kodwa bahlala behlala kwiDebian Oo

    Ndiyazibuza ukuba i-Debian yi-shit, kutheni beyisebenzisa? Ngaba bangama-masochists? XDDD

    1.    dhunter sitsho

      Unyanisile, uJessie ngumama. Ndicinga njengoko i-meme isitsho: abathiye baya kuthiya.

      1.    ubugcisa sitsho

        Bendisebenzisa iDebian ukusukela ngo-2005. Ndakhe ndatshintshela kwi-OpenSuse ndaza ndaya ku-Ubuntu, ndiyenzile ukuvavanya ukuba zazinjani ezi distros; Kwaba nje ixesha elifutshane, ngaphantsi kwe 3 iinyanga.
        Andikwazi ukuhlala ngaphandle kweDebian, ndabuya ngokukhawuleza ukuba ukuphuma kwam kuphelile kwaye ukususela ngoko ndiye ndaqhubeka ndiyisebenzisa, ndibe neengxaki zokuvavanya kodwa baye banesisombululo, kufuneka ubeke umgudu omncinci. Inzuzo yoku kukuba ufunda okuninzi.
        Ukuba awufuni iimpazamo ezingalindelekanga, isebe elizinzileyo kufuneka likhethwe. Nangona kum, uvavanyo luyinqaku lokulinganisa, iiphakheji ezintsha kunye nokuzinza kwemihla ngemihla.
        I-Debian yi-distro enkulu, i-DEBIAN ende!

    2.    lwezinga sitsho

      Ndicinga njalo ^^

  6.   linuXgirl sitsho

    Wowu!!! Olo nostalgia!!! Ngolu thando lunye ndathetha ngeDebian de… Ndadibana neManjaro Linux!!!

  7.   kuk sitsho

    Into embi malunga neDebian kukuba awusoze wazi ukuba inguqulelo elandelayo iya kukhutshwa nini kwaye i-systemd ukusuka apha ukuya ngaphandle ilungile, loo distro.

    1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      I-SystemD ikhethekile ukuba nje ukhetha i-GNOME 3 njengedesktop yakho engagqibekanga.

  8.   bryon sitsho

    Ndilindele i-Devuan, i-distro ngaphandle kwe-SYSTEMD, i-(ihashe le-Trojan) eyolise i-Debian kunye nezinye izinto eziphuma kuyo.

  9.   I-SynFlag sitsho

    I-Debian yenza impazamo enkulu nge-systemd, kungekhona kuphela kwinqanaba lobugcisa, kodwa noluntu lwayo luchasiwe ngokupheleleyo. Ndifuna ukubona ukuba kuya kwenzeka ntoni xa i-Devuan 1.0 izinzile ngaphandle kwe-systemd iphuma. Ndifuna nje ukubona loo nto.