I-Linus Torvalds: i-systemd ayibi kangako

Ngekhe singabinalo uluvo oluvela kuRichard Stallman kwinkqubo okwangoku, kodwa uLinus wanikela eyakhe kwakhona kudliwanondlebe noSam Varghese we-ITWire, apho athetha ngezinye izinto.

Xa kuziwa kwinkqubo, balindele ukuba ndibenezimvo ezininzi ezimibalabala, kodwa hayi. Andikhathali ngokobuqu ngenkqubo, enyanisweni ikhompyuter yam ephambili kunye nelaptop ziyayisebenzisa. Ngoku, andihambisani nabanye babaphuhlisi (ngokubhekisele kwisiganeko seKay Sievers) kwaye ndicinga ukuba abanankathalo xa kufikwa kwiibugs kunye nokuhambelana, kodwa andikho kakhulu kwinkampu yabantu abathiyileyo umbono we-systemd nokuba. .

Ngaba uyavumelana nengcinga yokuba inkqubo ishenxela kude kumbono wokulula kweendlela zeUNIX? Kubi oko ?.

Ndiyakholelwa ukuba uninzi lwe "mbono zoqobo" ze UNIX zingumba wengqondo kunembonakaliso yenyani. Kusekho ixabiso ekuqondeni imodeli yendabuko "yenza into ibe nye uyenze ngokuchanekileyo", kodwa ayisiyondlela yokusebenza kweenkqubo ezintsonkothileyo, kwaye ayizizo izicelo ezikhulu ezenzelwe ixesha elide. Olu lula lula oluyinyani kwinqanaba "elithile", kodwa ngokucacileyo aluchazi uninzi lwenyani. Inkqubo ayihambelani nesiqhekeza selifa lakudala i-UNIX. Ukusetyenziswa kwemizobo kunqabile ukuba kusetyenzwe ngolu hlobo, kwaye ke kuyacaca ukuba isampulu yomzekelo we-GNU Emac, ongazange ube yimodeli elula ye-UNIX, kodwa isiseko esitsha esikhulu, njenge-systemd. Ewe ndimdala ngokwaneleyo ukuba ndingazithanda iilog ezikwisicatshulwa hayi kubhinari. Ngamanye amaxesha ndicinga ukuba i-systemd ayinalo olona khetho lubalaseleyo, kodwa ziinkcukacha.

Ngaba ukhe wadibana neemeko ezifanayo ngaphambili, apho ukwaziswa kwendlela entsha yokwenza izinto kubangele ubukrakra kunye nokusabela okugabadeleyo?

Ewe. Vi vs Emacs, uthelekiso phakathi kweidesktops okanye ityala elisondeleyo kwinkqubo, SysV init vs BSD init. Andiqinisekanga ngendlela eyahlukileyo yokulwa okuneenkqubo. Umbuzo wobuchwephesha, kodwa abaphuhlisi bayo ngokuqinisekileyo babelungile ekuhlukaniseni abantu kwinqanaba lomntu. Ayisiyonto intsha phantsi kwelanga, iimfazwe phakathi kwabo bakhusela i-GPL kunye ne-BSD zazininzi malunga nabantu ababandakanyekayo kunye nendlela abacaphukisa ngayo abantu kunolunye umahluko.

Ungathini xa umntu ephikisa ukuba inkqubo yenze inqaku lokungaphumeleli elingavumeli ukuba inkqubo iqale ukuba ayiphumeleli? Ibeka iinkonzo ezininzi kwindawo enye kwaye ukuba enye iyasilela kwinkqubo ayisebenzi.

Ukuba eso sizathu, akufuneki basebenzise i-kernel nayo. Ngokucacileyo yinto ekhethekileyo, ukuba iinjineli zayo zingabantu abangcono kwaye mhlawumbi kuya kuba yinto engalunganga ukuthelekisa into entle njengekernel kunye neeprojekthi ezininzi. Kodwa ukuba ujonga iiprojekthi ezicothayo nezisindayo njenge-glibc, xa zijija zonke ziyonzakala.

Ndibuze le nto kuba ndibone amanqaku abantu abaya kwi-BSD kwiiseva. Khange ndibone oku kuziphatha kugqithisileyo, kodwa bendikwiLinux kuphela ukusukela '98.

Andihlali ndizilandela ezo nkqwithela, kodwa ndicinga ukuba inye into etshintshayo kukuba abantu mhlawumbi bayithatha kakhulu inkcubeko. Ayisiyo kuphela kumajelo eendaba obuchwephesha kodwa kwihlabathi lobuchwephesha zininzi "iingcinga" kunye nezinye izinto ezinxulumene noko. Kwaye abantu be-BSD banegama lolo: 'ukupeyinta okubhayisekile' *, emalunga nendlela abantu abaziva ngokungacacanga ukuba banako ukuxoxa ngemiba engabalulekanga, kuba wonke umntu uziva ukuba anganika uluvo kukhetho lombala. Imicimbi engabalulekanga inengxolo engaphezulu. Kodwa xa kufikwa kwizigqibo ezinzima nezinzulu zobuchwephesha, bafumanisa (ngamanye amaxesha) ukuba abazi ngokwaneleyo kwaye yiyo loo nto bengathethi kangako.

Ufundile Uxwebhu olutsha lukaLennart Poettering malunga nokulungiselela ukuhanjiswa nenkqubo yefayile yeBtrfs emiselweyo? Ukuba kunjalo, ucinga ntoni wena?

Andiqinisekanga ukuba yindlela elungileyo yokwenza izinto, kodwa ndonwabe kakhulu kukuba abantu besebenza kwelo cala. Imodeli yokupakisha yangoku yaphukile kusetyenziso lomntu wesithathu, kwaye andiqinisekanga ukuba kulungile nokuba iiprojekthi zisasazwa kulwabiwo lweLinux njengenxalenye yesiseko sabo. Ngaba iinkcukacha ezichanekileyo zendlela yokusebenzisa ii-Btrfs ukuphumeza oku kufanelekile? Akukho luvo. Ingxaki entsonkothileyo engazukusombululwa ngobusuku obungenantsingiselo, kwaye ndiyakrokra ziimodeli ezintsha ezinokutshintsha yonke into kwaye zithi zisombulula iingxaki (mhlawumbi izinto ezintsha, ezintsokothileyo kunye neenkcukacha ezintsonkothileyo zenza ukuba kube nzima ukuthi 'azinangxaki' ezikhoyo, ngenxa yoko kubonakala njengengxabano ukuba iingxaki azisekho- hayi kuba zingasekho ngonaphakade, kodwa kungenxa yokuba bekunzima nje ukuxoxa kuba kuninzi okutshintshileyo). Kodwa ndicinga ukuba yingxaki ekufuneka uyijongile.

* ukupeyinta ishedi yebhayisikile iya kuba kukuguqulelwa kwayo kwiSpanish. Iinkcukacha ezithe vetshe apha y apha


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  1.   Eliotime3000 sitsho

    Kwaye ngalo mzuzu ucima ilangatye (kuba uLinus naye wenza idangatye lakhe kunye neTanembaun ngokubhekisele kwi-monolithic nuclei kunye ne-micronuclei).

    1.    Cristian sitsho

      I-Linus ihlala iyonwabela iimfazwe 😀
      Ndicinga ukuba kungaphezulu komsindo, yindlela yokuphuma kumboniso: uyahleka

      Nangona kunjalo, icacile kwaye iphikisana ukuba iphakamisa ntoni.

  2.   I-SynFlag sitsho

    Ndicinga ukuba uLinus wayedikidiki kudliwanondlebe, emva koko ndimbona ethukisa uKay kuluhlu lokuposa ngesizathu esivakalayo, ke ndicinga ukuba wayithetha yonke le nto ukuze angaqhubeki nokunyusa idangatye.

    Kubonakala kum ngathi inokwaneleyo ngekernel, uguquko olucelwe nguGoogle, olucwangcisiweyo ukungena kwizinto ezingahambelaniyo, enyanisweni aluzange luye kwiinkqubo zokuqalisa, kodwa, ndicinga ukuba kufanele ngeendlela zalo, thatha amanyathelo ngalo mbandela, ithi malunga nelog kwiteksti…. kwaye uLinus akangomntu othi "kulungile, nantso indlela, sizakwenza ntoni, masiqhubeke sifunxe", ke nokuba le gagá kwaye kufuneka ithathe inyathelo lokuya kwicala, ayibhali khowudi okanye uza kwenza into, wonke umntu iindlela ……. Kwiseva 1 ikhukhamba ibalulekile kum ukuba yintoni ayenzileyo, ukuba YONKE i-distro idluliselwe kwinkqubo, kuyakufuneka uye kwi-BSD, elula, andikhathali nokuba wenzani okanye hayi, njengokuba ndingakhathali nokuba kwenzeka ntoni ngeHurd, ukuba ngendlela ayisiyonto.

    Ngapha koko, thenga i-petroleum jelly eninzi, kuba liyeza ixesha lokuba i-RPM ixhomekeke kwinkqubo, njengangoku bafuna ukubeka i-brtfs ... uthixo wam ... andazi ukuba uGoogle, uMicrosoft okanye redhat imbi kakhulu

    1.    rolo sitsho

      I-SynFlag = "ukupeyinta ibhayisekile"

    2.    ngqumbo_linux sitsho

      Kusekho iGentoo kunye neSlackware, kubonakala ngathi bazakuqhubeka nokusebenzisa iinkqubo ze-init ezingagqibekanga ixesha elide.

    3.    Mnu sitsho

      Ngethemba. Ndicinga ukuba lixesha lokumisa umgangatho.
      Andazi ukuba yintoni intiyo nge-RPM, xa ndiqonda ukuba uStallman ngokwakhe ubakhele phaya emva. Andikhathali nokuba i-DEB, ukuba i-RPM, ewe ... nantoni na, kodwa ukubekwa emgangathweni kulungile kubo bonke abantu. Njengoko uLinus watsho, eli lixesha labasebenzisi beDesktop yeLinux, abangakhathaleli ngumahluko wobuchwephesha phakathi kwe-DEP kunye ne-RPM okoko nje ucofe kabini kwaye ufake.

    4.    joakoej sitsho

      Uhambe kakuhle, kodwa uziqinisile kumatshini wokugqibela

    5.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Malunga ne-RPM kunye ne-SystemD… mandinikhumbuze ukuba ikhona OMnye ukwenzela ukuguqula iiphakheji .rpm zibe yiphakheji oyifunayo.

      Ngoku ngokubhekisele kwi-BTRFS, sisiphakamiso nje, kuba kukho abantu abonqikayo ngokwenene ukusebenzisa ezinye iinkqubo zefayile eziphakathi kangangokuba zibakhumbuza nge-FAT32 okanye i-NTFS, kwaye bakhetha iinkqubo ezomeleleyo (njenge-XFS) okanye ezo zicetyiswe uninzi (EXT4).

  3.   yesikiso sitsho

    : ') njengoko ndibeka ibhendi eTorvalds as, njengoko esitsho ngokufanelekileyo, kwaye ndabelana ngokupheleleyo, uninzi lweempikiswano ezichasene neSystemd zizifilosofi, kwaye njengoko benditshilo ngaphambili, ngoku "wonke umntu unxibe ihempe ye-BSD, Solaris, Haiku, HURD kunye ingakanani i-weirdo ephaya "... elandela" ifilosofi "yeTorvalds ongayithandiyo, ifolokhwe, okanye ukwenza into entsha ... ..

    Abanye baya kundijija, kwaye ayisiyiyo kuphela ukuba ndingumsebenzisi weLinux kwaye iRedHat ayindibhatali isibambo xD, kodwa ndiyishiya le ukuze ilayite ilangatye ngakumbi http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI4NDc

    kwaye ndilithanda ngokukhethekileyo eli binzana, elinikezelwe kwabo bacinga ukuba iSystemd kukufumana isantya kwiBoot Time «ISistim is malunga nesantya-uLennart uthi isantya se-systemd sisiphumo esisecaleni sokuyila izinto ngokuchanekileyo…»

    kunye nesumo, ezinye ze-inits, okanye iiseti zezicelo (Nditsho kuba kuba "ingangqinelani" ne-init) vumela oku:
    http://diegocg.blogspot.com/2014/02/por-que-kdbus.html
    http://diegocg.blogspot.com/2014/07/avanzando-golpe-de-actualizaciones-de.html

    kwaye malunga nokubandakanywa kwe-btrfs .. bayakhalaza kodwa babonile ukuba kutheni? …. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc3NzU

    1.    yesikiso sitsho

      Impazamo: «kwaye andingomsebenzisi weLinux kuphela kwaye iRedHat ayindibhatali isibambo xD»> «kwaye ndingumsebenzisi weLinux kuphela kwaye iRedHat ayindibhatali isibambo xD»

      1.    ngqumbo_linux sitsho

        btrfs Ndiyayithanda kakhulu indlela esebenza ngayo, imisebenzi yayo, kodwa ayilunganga njenge-ext4 ukuzilungisa yona xa isonakele, kuye kwafuneka ndiyilungise kwakhona, ndikwazile ukubuyisa ulwazi, kodwa ndingayilungisi inkqubo. Endaweni yoko kwenzeka into efanayo kum nge-ext4 kunye ne-fsck ekulungele, kwaye kufana nokutsha.

      2.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Ingxaki kukuba akukho mntu ufuna ukwenza ifom ye-SystemD njengoTheo de Raadt wenza nge-OpenSSL. Inyani yile yokuba ngelishwa akukho mntu uziqondayo izizathu zokungenzi mgudu uphantsi wokuphucula iSystemD njengomdibanisi wale projekthi.

        Ngapha koko, ngoku ndiza kuhlaziya i-Opera Blink kwisebe le-beta.

      3.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Kwaye i-voila: inyuselwe kwi-Opera Blink 25 beta.

      4.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        @amulet_linux:

        Ngaphandle koko, kwi-netbook yam ndine-XFS kwaye ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, isebenzisa amandla amancinci ebhetri kwi-Debian Wheezy. Inyani yile yokuba i-BTRFS iseluhlaza kwiinkalo ezininzi, ke ndiye ndakhetha isisombululo esifanelekileyo kwiilaptops ezinjengee-netbook.

        Ngapha koko, i-Ext4 ilungile, kodwa andikwazi ukumelana nokuphatheka.

    2.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      Kwaye i Iglosari epheleleyo ilungele ilangatye elilungileyo.

    3.    joakoej sitsho

      Kwaye kutheni iRed Hat ingakuhlawula? uyandibhanxa

      1.    edo sitsho

        Kuhlala kukho umntu ongayiqondiyo into abafuna ukuyithetha

  4.   iyeva sitsho

    Ngokucacileyo yinto ekhethekileyo, ukuba iinjineli zayo zingabantu abangcono kwaye mhlawumbi kuya kuba yinto engalunganga ukuthelekisa into entle njengekernel kunye neeprojekthi ezininzi.

    HAHAHA .. hamba neebhola ezimbini: I-Kernel yeyona ilungileyo kunye ne-SystemD yiprojekthi ye-shit .. Lo mfo (Torvalds) ukuba uyakwazi ukusebenzisa amagama hahaha.

    1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      KumaKristu: uyiPro-Unix nangona ethanda indawo yokuzoba.

      1.    isanga sitsho

        eneneni ngaphezulu kwepro unix ngumhlobo wento esebenzayo. Izakuthatha kwi-Unix ukuba isebenza njani kwaye ukuba enye ayisebenzi ukujongana neengxaki ezikhoyo okanye iimfuno kwaye kufuneka usebenzise into eyahlukileyo ngokupheleleyo, ayikukhathazi nakancinci

  5.   iiflegi sitsho

    Inkqubo ayihambelani nesiqhekeza selifa lakudala i-UNIX. Ukusetyenziswa kwemizobo kunqabile ukuba kusebenza ngolu hlobo »

    Amawaka ezigidi oku. Bonke abo bahlala betyhola isoftware ethile yokwaphula imigaqo ye-UNIX, ndiyathemba ukuba bayayenza kwisikripthi se-bash esikhuphela amaphepha ewebhu nge-wget, sifunde okungaphantsi kunye nezithuba nge-curl, kungenjalo uluvo lwabo alunabunyani.

    1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

      CC-Combo wophula!

      1.    Indlela sitsho

        Oku ngakumbi kukufa kwe-XD. Ifilosofi ye-UNIX ilungile kwezinye izinto, kodwa ndicinga ukuba, kuba iyathetha kwisikhangeli sewebhu, wonke umntu uyayilandela, ayisiyonto ingadibaniyo ne-monolithic, zizidibanisi zabathengi be-http, iinjini ze-html, iitoliki ze-Java, iiplagi, I-SSL… Bonke benza umsebenzi omnye kwaye bayawenza (ngaphezulu okanye ngaphantsi) kakuhle.

      2.    iiflegi sitsho

        Ewe, kodwa ubusazi ukuba iibrawuza ezinje ngefirefox zigcina ezazo imbali yokukhuphela kwi-sqlite? kwaye i-sqlite yi… IFOMU YOKUBHALA! UMNTU OBANGELA I-DENNIS RITCHIE, I-FIREFOX IYA KUTYA INJA YAM!

        FUD FUD FUD, ekuphela kwento ethetha ngeNkquboD.

      3.    Abasebenzi sitsho

        @iamfanlalisa
        Ndiqala ngokucacisa ukuba ndiyavuma ukuba lixesha lokutshintsha i-init, kwaye le nkqubo ibonakala yeyona ilungileyo esinayo namhlanje.
        Kodwa ayisosizathu sokuba sizokuphika ukusilela kwayo, ukutyhola nabani na obabhengeza ukuba bavelisa i-FUD, kungasathethwa ke ngokulwa ne-FUD ngokuchasene ne-FUD.

        I-SQLite yindawo yogcino lwedatha, ifomathi enayo le datha iya kumqhubekekisi, unokuba ne-int, isicatshulwa, esihamba ngokuchanekileyo njengombhalo ocacileyo, okanye ii-BLOBs ezizezambini.
        Kodwa kwimeko enomdla oyikhankanyileyo, ulahlekile ngandlela thile, unokuvula ngokulula ifayile yeFirefox ngomhleli wokubhaliweyo kwaye ubone iidilesi njengombhalo ocacileyo, oko kukuthi, zonke zifunjwe kuba abahleli abasazi ubume be-SQLite, kodwa ewe Ufuna ukuzifunda zi-odolwe kwiikholamu, ukusuka kwiFirefox ukhuphele iplagi ebizwa ngokuba ngumlawuli we-SQLite kwaye uyababona ngaphandle kwengxaki.
        Ngokungafaniyo nokwenzekayo ngeSystemD ekunyanzela ukuba usebenzise ijenali ukuze ukwazi ukuyifunda.
        Kuya kufuneka wamkele ukuthengisa kunye neengxaki, ukuze usebenze ukusombulula le yokugqibela.

      4.    iiflegi sitsho

        unokuvula ngokulula ifayile yeFirefox ngomhleli wokubhaliweyo kwaye ujonge iidilesi njengombhalo ocacileyo,

        Obu bubuxoki, ndiyakumema ukuba uzame, omnye umtya uya kuvela kwiscreen, ngokucacileyo kodwa i-SQLite yifomathi yokubini njengamawaka ezinye iifomathi zokubini esizisebenzisa mihla le. Ayifundeki kwiliso lenyama. Andazi ukuba ufumana phi ukuba uza kubona iidilesi njengombhalo ocacileyo, imitya iya kutsiba kodwa awuyi kuba nakho ukufunda ifayile kwimowudi yokubhaliweyo ecacileyo ngendlela ethembekileyo.

        Ngokungafaniyo nokwenzekayo ngeSystemD ekunyanzela ukuba usebenzise ijenali ukuze ukwazi ukuyifunda.

        Ngaphantsi kwengcinga yakho efanayo i-SQLite inyanzela ukuba usebenzise isoftware ethile ukuba ifunde umxholo wayo, kwaye ezo fayile zebhanari zinjalo. Ekuphela kwendaba ebhaliweyo yokufunda i-SystemD iinkuni ezibini ngokulula kuthetha ukuba inye kuphela into yokuphunyezwa komfundi kwifomathi yefayile, hayi ilennart, i-torvalds, kunye ne-illuminati ezizama ukuguqula i-linux ibe ziifestile njengoko umkhankaso wokukrokrela kwiSystemD ucebisa.

        Ingxaki kuxa sicinga ukuba ifayile yokubini "nguMtyholi", into endikubuza yona kwimeko ongayiqapheliyo kukuba ukuba sisebenzisa ifilosofi efanayo yabachasi beSystemD kwezinye iinkqubo, iyawa. Inyani yokuba iiprojekthi ezinje ngeSystemD okanye ezinye kufuneka zihlalutywe kwezinye iimbono zesoftware, hayi ezo "ziyaphula nento ebesoloko siyenza, yiyo ke le ndlela eyiyo." Ndiyabulela kweso simo sengqondo esichithe ixesha elide ngaphandle kokucinga kwakhona malunga nokubuyisela i-init (emva koko abantu ababalekayo kunye nabanye abaninzi baqala ukuyicinga le nto).

      5.    Abasebenzi sitsho

        @iamfanlalisa
        Andazi ukuba uqhelene nomxholo wedathabheyisi, kodwa yinto engenayo ifomathi, banazo IINTLOBO ZEENKCUKACHA, kwaye ezi zezona zinazo.
        Unokuba nemicu yokubhaliweyo ngokugqibeleleyo, amanani okanye imifanekiso nkqu kwisiseko sedatha esinye. Ngamnye eneefomathi ezahlukeneyo.

        Unoko engqondweni (ndiyathemba) uyaqonda ukuba kuyimpazamo ukutsho ukuba i-SQLite yifomathi yokubini, kuba ayisiyo fayile enjalo, awuthethi ngoxwebhu lwegama, i-.pdf okanye i-.jpg.

        Ngoku, ndikufumanisa kuyinto ehlekisayo ukuba undimemele ukuba ndizame into onokuyibona ungakhange uyenze.
        Nabu ubungqina bam:

        http://i.imgur.com/zR7PEWl.png

        Yakho?
        Ayisiyo ukuba ubona "umtya ongaqhelekanga", iidilesi zizalisekile kwaye ziyafundeka. Ukuba kucacile kuthi ukuba yintoni na isiseko sedatha, siya kwazi ukuba kuchanekile ukuthi kule meko "IINKCUKACHA ZIGCINWA NJENGOMBHALI WEFLAT".
        Andazi ukuba ufuna ukuthembeka kangakanani.

        Olo luvo olulula oluthi kum kungenxa yokuba uwachaze gwenxa amazwi am.
        Ukuba ndiyilandele ndingatsho ukuba nezicatshulwa ezicacileyo ZINYANZELELA ukuba usebenzise isoftware ethile ukuba ufunde umxholo wayo, kwaye iya kuba yinyani, okanye ungazifunda njani ngaphandle kokusebenzisa i-Kate, Notepad, nano ...?
        Into ongayiqondiyo kukuba iiLogs zeSystemD zinokufundwa KUPHELA NGENXA / nephephandaba Ngokungafaniyo nembali yeFirefox onokuyifunda ingcolile kunye nawuphi na umhleli wokubhaliweyo okanye ococekileyo ngeenkqubo ezahlukeneyo:
        http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools

        Ndiyaphinda ukuba awufundanga okokuqala:
        "Ndiyavuma ukuba lixesha lokutshintsha i-init, kwaye i-SystemD ibonakala njengeyona nto ibalaseleyo esinayo namhlanje."
        Kwaye ndiziqonda ngokupheleleyo izibonelelo zokusebenzisa i-binaries (Umngcipheko omncinci wokonakala kwedatha, ukukhangela ngokukhawuleza ...) kodwa kunye nokungahambi kakuhle kwayo (Ukuxhomekeka, kunzima kakhulu ukubuyisela kwimeko yenkohliso yedatha ...) kodwa ubuncinci bububudenge njengokungaqwalaseli izibonelelo.

      6.    iiflegi sitsho

        Ukuyibona imitya ayithethi ukuba ifayile iyabonakaliswa. Sukuvumela uKate akubonise abalinganiswa abaphakathi, nokuba.

        http://imgur.com/GfUxpcf

        Kwimeko nokuba yeyiphi imigaqo yeefayile zejenali yasesidlangalaleni, ke ukubhala ukuphunyezwa komfundi wejenali kuyinto encinci, nokuba awufuni ukusebenzisa i-C API abayinikezelayo. Njengakwifomathi evulekileyo yomthombo ovulekileyo, ii-API kunye neelayibrari zibonelelwa ukuba ziqhubekeke kwinkqubo yakho.

        Izinto eziluncedo kunye nezinto ezingalunganga, ewe banazo, kodwa kulapho kungena khona into e-subjective, ndiyifumanisa ingamanyala indlela abagxeki abatsiba ngayo ukuyibeka ebaleni ukuba "systemd izakubamba yonke into", "BASINYANZELELA ukuba sisebenzise inkqubo", "linux izakuba ziifestile "," iigeyithi zamatyala ziya kungena endlwini yakho zibulale usapho lwakho ", kwaye leyo yiFUD, uyibeka ngoluhlobo uyibeka ngayo, ayihlaseli le ngxaki kodwa izama ukukoyikisa.

      7.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        @njani_baby:

        Ingaba uyadlala ngam kakhulu?

        Ndizibona kakuhle iingxelo ze-SQL kwindawo yokubini kwifayile ye-sqlite kwi-GNU Nano. Kwaye ucaphule @ abasebenzi:

        […] Ngokungafaniyo nembali yeFirefox Ungayifunda ingcolile nomnye umhleli wokubhaliweyo Okanye u-odolwe ngeenkqubo ezahlukeneyo:
        http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools%5B…]

        Oku kwenzeka ngenxa yokungazi ukuba uyiphatha njani i-MySQL / MariaDB.

        I-PS: Iseva yeMS SQL imbi kakhulu.

      8.    iiflegi sitsho

        Oku kwenzeka ngenxa yokungazi ukuba uyiphatha njani i-MySQL / MariaDB.

        Ndiyayazi indlela yokufunda / ukubhala i-SQL, ngokusisiseko kuyintlungu kwi-esile kufuneka ndifunde i-sqlite kwimowudi yokubhaliweyo kuyo nayiphi na into esebenzayo endiyithethayo, kwaye kufanelekile kakhulu kuloo meko njengefayile yokubini, ufuna izixhobo ukufikelela kuyo ngendlela ebonakalayo kunye nezixhobo ziyafumaneka.

        Kuyafana nokungena kweengodo, inkqubo yokubhaliweyo iyafumaneka kwaye ungabhala umfundi (nangona kungacetyiswanga) njengoko ubona kufanelekile, okanye sebenzisa isixhobo esele sikhona ukufikelela kuso, okanye ukusebenzisa i-C API esele ikho.

        Kwaye ukuba sifuna ukubeka imizekelo yezinye iifayile zebhanari unayo i-rpmdbs kunye nezinye izinto ezininzi ezigcina useto, ii-cache kunye nezinye kwifomathi yokubini (uMariaDB uyayenza ngokuzikhethela izibonelelo ezikhankanywe ngu @staff), kodwa le ngxoxo yaba yintetho malunga nokuphepha inqaku lencoko ngeyona ndlela yobugcisa inokwenzeka.

      9.    Abasebenzi sitsho

        @iamfanlalisa

        Ukuba unokubona imitya ayithethi ukuba ifayile iyabonakaliswa. Sukuvumela uKate akubonise abalinganiswa abaphakathi, nokuba. »
        Lowo ngomnye umcimbi ngokupheleleyo, uthe wawuyifomathi yokubini kwaye sele ibonakalisiwe, nokuba yeyakho ukubamba, ukuba bubuxoki obu.
        Ngoku utshintsha impikiswano yakho ukuba ithi "Yinambuzane kwaye into eyithethayo ayinakufundwa" iye "Yinto yokubini enokufundwa kodwa ayinakucazululwa", kwaye kwakhona ungena kwimpazamo, kuba isizathu sokuba ungabinako Uhlalutyo olucwangcisiweyo yile: kutheni ungazi ubume bayo.
        Umzekelo:
        Thatha ifayile ye-CSV kwisicatshulwa esigqibeleleyo, uyivule ngeKate kwaye uya kubona ukuba ayiyalelwanga ngendlela efundekayo nayo. Kule nto kufuneka uyazi ubume bayo.
        Ke ndicinga ukuba ingxaki apha kukuba awucacanga ncam malunga nokuba zeziphi iziseko zedatha, okanye umahluko phakathi kwefomathi kunye nekhowudi.

        «… Ukubhala ukuphunyezwa komfundi wejenali yinto encinci…»
        Akukho nto incinci, ukuqala ngoba ayibhalwanga ngokufunda umfundi. Ukuba awunakuxhomekeka, unokwenza iwaka labafundi kodwa ijenali / ijenali ZIMANDLA, kuba ngabo ababhala ezo jenali.

        "Kwaye yi-FUD, nokuba uyibeka phi, ayihlaseli ngxaki kodwa izama ukukoyikisa."
        Ndayenza yacaca gca kwingcaciso yam yokuqala ukuba ininzi inyani, kukho i-FUD ngokuchasene neSystemD, kodwa into ongayiboniyo kukuba wenza kwa into enye.
        Uvelisa i-FUD, uthetha izinto ezingeyonyani kwizihloko ezahlukileyo, endaweni yokuhlasela umbuzo wobugcisa.
        Ukuthi iSystemD inengxaki ye-X kodwa ilungile kuba uninzi lwamacandelo enkqubo nayo inayo, bubuxoki obubi.
        «Ububi obuninzi, intuthuzelo yeziyatha», batsho apha.

        Kwaye kubonakala kuyinto engakholelekiyo kum ukuba njenge proSystemD endiyiyo, kufuneka ndikhusele "abagxeki abagqithisileyo" kwabo "bakhuthazi abanciphisa."

      10.    Abasebenzi sitsho

        * Ngokwesiqhelo, hayi ngokwenkqubo.
        Uxolo.

    2.    joakoej sitsho

      Ndiyavuma, bazaphula njani iibhola ngezo zefilosofi zitshiphu kwiminyaka engama-20 eyadlulayo. Ngokuqinisekileyo ngexesha lakhe umntu uthe, kodwa njengoko beza kusuka kulwimi olubini ukuya kulwimi olubhaliweyo, ukungqinelana akuyi kuba yi-100%, kwaye sisekhona. Landela inkqubela phambili kwaye ukuba awuthandi ukuba benze ifolokhwe okanye bathumele izimvo zabo kuFedora, ndixelele.

      1.    Eliotime3000 sitsho

        Ubuncinci iRed Hat ngumbutho owaziyo ukumamela (hayi njengeMicrosoft okanye iOracle), kwaye uTheo de Raadt uneebhola ezingaphezulu kwakhe nawuphi na unyana kanina onokucinga ngokuchasene neprojekthi engenamdla wokufaka isandla.

        Imizekelo ebonakalayo yeefolokhwe eziqaphelekayo: UMATE (ozelwe kwiGNOME 2 engasasebenzi), iCinnamon (evela kukungangqinelani kwabasebenzisi kunye ne-GNOME 3 UI paradigm), LibreSSL / BoringSSL (eyazalwa ibulelwe yi-OpenSSL bug, efanayo nakwindlela yokugcina SystemD kunye nemeko yangoku), iLibreOffice (evela kukungabikho kolondolozo lweOpenOffice yiOracle emva kokufunyanwa kweSun Microsystems), uMariaDB (imeko efanayo neLibreOffice, kodwa ngeMySQL), Audacious (owazalwa ngokusweleka kweXMMS), njalo njalo Ndingaqhubeka nokuchaza imizekelo elungileyo yeefolokhwe.

    3.    juan sitsho

      1. Yeyiphi le migaqo ye-UNIX athetha ngayo wonke umntu (kwaye kubonakala ngathi iyakunyanzela ukuba usebenzise iskripthi se-bash, njl.

      2. Kwaye nakweyiphi na imeko, abanakubeka tyala kuye nabani na ngokuba okanye nokulandela imigaqo ngaphandle kwabo, kuba akukho mntu uthumele iLinux ukuba inuke eyona UNIX okanye enye into, kwaye akukho namnye umntu obathumileyo ukuba bangazenzeli ezabo iiparadigms kodwa bayakopa benze izinto ezo zomnye. Ngoku uzokhalaza ube neentloni ngalonto? Ukuba kunjalo, kulungile kum, kodwa kuya kufuneka basule kwaye baqale kwelinye inqanawa, kuba iLinux ibisoloko 'iyi-wannabe Unix', yindlela ezalwe ngayo, yindlela ekhule ngayo kwaye injalo waphila.

      1.    iyeva sitsho

        Ndicinga ukuba babhekisa ku:
        - Yenza into ibe nye kuphela, kodwa yenze kakuhle.
        Yonke into ekwifayile yokubhaliweyo.

      2.    ncedisa sitsho

        khangela umgaqo wokuncamisa wikipedia:

        “Umgaqo we-KISS uthi uninzi lweenkqubo zisebenza ngcono ukuba zigcinwa zilula kunokuba zenziwe zintsokotha; ke, ukwenza lula kufuneka kugcinwe njengeyona njongo yoyilo, kwaye nabuphi na ubunzima obungeyomfuneko kufuneka kuthintelwe. "

      3.    juan sitsho

        Enkosi ngempendulo yabo bobabini, ngoku ndiza kuyazi into oyithethayo.

  6.   Eliotime3000 sitsho

    Kwaye xa ndithetha ngeSystemD, ndiyifumene le nto itheyibhile yokusebenza isetyenziselwe abo bathatha ilizwi lalabo bafuna "ukukhaba" i-SystemD (nayo iFedora inayo eyakho nakwiSpanish).

  7.   isanga sitsho

    kwaye oku kuyaboniswa ukuba isistim ilapha ukuze ihlale kwaye eneneni i-linus iyayixhasa ngandlela ithile ngenxa yomgangatho kuba inika isisombululo sokwenyani nesisebenzayo kwiingxaki zokwenyani. isekwe ekusebenzeni, hayi kwiifilosofi ezingabizi kangako kwiminyaka engama-40 eyadlulayo !!!! (iifilosofi ezingabalulekanga kwimeko yangoku)

    1.    Indlela sitsho

      Ukubekwa emgangathweni kulungile, kodwa ukuba ufumana ingxelo kwikhowudi yenkqubo, khawuleza wenze umnqweno. Ayisiyonto imbi, ndiyazi ngeprojekthi ebizwa ngokuba yi-OpenSSL (andazi ukuba iyavakala ngathi iyafana nawe) eyayikwimeko efanayo, kwaye uyazi ukuba kwenzeke ntoni.

      1.    isanga sitsho

        akukho nto uyibonayo. I-OpenSSL igcinwe liqela elincinci kakhulu labaphuhlisi bokuzithandela ngexesha labo lokuzonwabisa kwaye kude kube kungena isiseko se-linux, ibinemali encinci. Inkqubo, ngokuchaseneyo, ixhaswa ngamakhulu abaphuhlisi abazimeleyo, inkxaso yemali eqinileyo evela kwiinkampani ezininzi ezibeka abaphuhlisi abahlawulwayo (kwaye ayisiyiyo kuphela inethiwekhi yehan, i-intel, isamsung kunye noGoogle abanabaphuhlisi nalapho) iimeko ezahlukeneyo. ikhowudi yenkqubo iphicothwe ngakumbi kwaye inenkxaso engakumbi.

  8.   rolo sitsho

    Ngoku ukubhengezwa kuka-richard stalman kunye ne-fsf kwi-systemd akukhoyo kunokuphelisa ingxoxo okanye kuqhume yonke into 😀

    Ndisacinga ukuba ukuza nomxholo owenziwe yinkqubo ye-linux kuphela uninzi lwezichaso yimibuzo nje yezopolitiko, ezinje ngomhlaba wokuzalisa iqela elithile labanenzondelelo yempambano abathanda iingcinga zelenqe kunye nayo yonke loo nto.

    Ndikwacinga ukuba ukuba endaweni yenkqubo ephuculweyo yingxoxo kaLennart Poettering, abantu abavela kwisangqa se-FSF bayenzile, akukho mntu unokuphikisana nenkqubo.

  9.   engaziwa sitsho

    Ukujonga amagqabantshintshi e-phoronix kwikhonkco elidlulileyo
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?105607-Lennart-Poettering-Talks-Up-His-New-Linux-Vision-That-Involves-Btrfs

    Ndimele ndivume ukuba isisu sam sibuhlungu ngokuhleka kakhulu ... Ndifumene la magqabantshintshi:

    08-31-2014, 10:17 PM # 9
    kwi314
    Atari314 akukho lunga
    Imetastasis… ukukhula kwesibetho esibuhlungu kude ukusuka kwindawo yokuqala yomhlaza…

    Kukho abantu abanesiphiwo sokuthetha izinto ngokuthe ngqo nangokuthe ngqo .. ..

    Kwaye uLinus, ndicinga ukuba akafuni ukudala iingxabano kwaye ekugqibeleni bambona njengalowo uthumela isihogo kulowo ubekwe phambi kwakhe, oko kukuthi, uyayikhathalela into ayithethayo, kuba kumaxesha okugqibela abaninzi bathetha izitshabalalisi malunga neendlela zakhe ...
    Ngaphakathi ezantsi uyazi ukuba uzokuvumela kude kangakanani, yiyo loo nto ekhankanya izinto angazithandiyo okanye azibona zijamelene kakubi.

  10.   engaziwa sitsho

    Kulungile bantu, yenzekile lento bendiyithetha ... ibicacile, i-frankestein yayiba yingozi kakhulu kwaye inamandla ...
    Ukuba manene, kubizwa ngokuba akunamsebenzi, ungakutolika njengokungenamsebenzi okanye "njengokusebenzisa okuncinci", kuthiwe ngokufanelekileyo.

    Uselessd: Uhlobo oluKhuselweyo olusezantsi lweNkqubo
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc5MzA

    Funda imibuzo kunye neempendulo kwiphepha leprojekthi, baya kuyenza ukuba ihambelane nefreebsd.

    http://uselessd.darknedgy.net

    Ngoku ndiyathemba ukuba abantu abaninzi bayajoyina kwaye phakathi kwabo bonke abangahlawulwanga ziinkqubo ziinkampani abaphumeleleyo endaweni ye-init ekudala ilindelwe.

  11.   Ukuxhobisa uJaleo Ngokuqinisekileyo sitsho

    Ukuba, ngenye indlela, u-Devuan waphuma kwaye kukho i-distros ethile engayiphumeziyo, into iya kuba ne-systemd ukuba inxalenye ethile yoluntu ingayithandi.
    Kwaye andicingi ukuba kungenxa yokuba ndingu-purist.