From OMG! Free! I read the news, and I am sure that it has had enough echo in the network by now.
It happens that the current development version of Ubuntu (12.10) will not weigh 700MB, no, it will weigh 800MB. This according to what was said by Kate stewart in the mailing list of Ubuntu:
There is no longer a traditional CD sized image, DVD or alternate image, but rather a single 800MB Ubuntu image that can be used from USB or DVD.
Ubuntu Server remains unaffected by the switch.
Whose translation into Spanish would be more or less:
There will be no standard CD size for the image (.ISO), DVD or alternate, instead a single 800MB ISO will be available, which can be used from USB or DVD.
Ubuntu Server will not be affected.
So now you know ... to install from a DVD or from USB 🙁
With Kubuntu It will happen the same or worse, because the ISO will go from being 700MB to 1GB:
Kubuntu 12.10 now comes on a 1GB image for a USB drive or DVD.
Whose translation is:
Kubuntu 12.10 now comes in a 1GB image for USB or DVD.
The reason for the change is none other than to improve the packaging with which it comes Ubuntu By default, that is, those 100MBs more than they will now have will allow them to include more packages, more software.
Furthermore, with the disappearance of the Ubuntu Alternate CD, the developers won't waste so much time making this other image, they will just compile one that is multipurpose.
This news does not bother me or I like it, it just seems to me that many will not like it.
The question we should ask ourselves is:
How many of us install from CD and can only install from CD?
If more than 10 users have this problem, then that automatically makes Ubuntu's decision not entirely correct.
For the end, I want to leave you a small comparative list of the size in MBs that Ubuntu ISOs have had, a list made by OMG! Free!:
- Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 1 745MB
- Ubuntu 12.04.1 695MB
- Ubuntu 11.10 695MB
- Ubuntu 11.04 685MB
- Ubuntu 10.10 693MB
- Ubuntu 10.04.4 694MB
- Ubuntu 9.10 690MB
- Ubuntu 9.04 699MB
- Ubuntu 8.10 699MB
- Ubuntu 8.04 699MB
- Ubuntu 7.10 696MB
- Ubuntu 7.04 698MB
- Ubuntu 6.10 698MB
- Ubuntu 6.06 696MB
- Ubuntu 5.04 627MB
- Ubuntu 5.04 625MB
- Ubuntu 4.10 643M
By the way, other changes that will come in the next Ubuntu 12.10 will be more applications in Python3, so the migration from Python2 to Python3 has already begun for them, new version of X.org and Mesa (personally I think that horrors will be seen here ...)
PD: The woman who made the announcement is named Kate Stewart, but she is definitely NOT the actress Hahaha.
Well, I'm the same as you neither go nor come to me.
XD
there will be no cd, on the net there are some notes where it is said that there will be no live cd, at first I thought I understood that it was going to be something like debian, without live function; Did I misunderstand? or will they just remove the cd but it will remain live dvd
regards
will remain Live DVD
As a detail nothing else, Debian does have live images, with LXDE, Gnome, KDE and Xfce environments.
Greetings.
I haven't used a CD or DVD to install for a long time. There are several factors:
* Here in Argentina optical discs have increased in price.
* The pendrives are at a good price and we can erase / format / rewrite them, etc.
* For those who suffer from Versionitis ** Virtualbox (among others) has been of great help.
** Versionitis: Addiction to install any distro that is not put forward or the last one that comes out of Distrowatch 🙂
It is that I understand them .. At this point in the year 2012 ... Every machine already works and is made to read DVDs ..
The one who doesn't, it's just time to give your hardware a little love 😉
Ok, but not everyone can afford to "love their hardware", even less if you think of institutions that require many machines, such as educational ones. But hey, there are many other distributions and therefore, what Ubuntu does does not care about the rest of the SL world.
Greetings.
I am with you 100%, a large number of users expect that current operating systems as well as their installation media run smoothly on obsolete machines, something totally impossible since technology advances at a rapid pace and it is a far-fetched idea that such technology works perfectly on totally discontinued equipment. Fortunately for users who have computers with few features, there are alternatives within GNU / Linux.
Well, to use usb keys that is not so difficult ...
This is how it is and the installation and execution in livecd mode is faster.
they will hardly install unity or kde on a pc that is not capable of booting from a USB.
In my almost, I have been installing from USB for about 5 years, especially when it gives me "Versionitiss" Hehehe!
@ KZKG ^ Gaara, or whoever knows about the subject, the above calls me about Python 3, what does this change mean at user level ?? Or is it going to happen that as before, we can have Python 2.6, Python 2.7, and Python 3? and only each program uses the one it needs. What about compatibility ???
I have not used ubuntu for a long time, I fought with it because in versions 10.X it would freeze my pc for apparent reason, since then I have looked for the distros on DVD up to 1GB, but I do not justify it, I recently installed openSUSE (which marvel of distro XD) on CD and everything comes very bare, with almost nothing and in the end one ends up downloading the DVD completing the applications and updates. I think the decision is more compelling to have a more complete desktop.
Well look how time passes quickly, the first version of Ubuntu I used was 6.06. That has been 6 years, but although time has passed, it still seems like a half-done distribution.
Man ... I think the same as they said previously out there ... it will be difficult to install ubun / kubun on an "old" computer that does not allow you to boot from a USB. If it is true that there are people who "collect" these CDs ... the only thing that currently, unfortunately, must do so on DVD.
If your computer does not support DVD or USB, surely it cannot handle the weight of Ubuntu + Unity in Live version, so use Xubuntu, which does have a CD version and your computer will thank you forever.
I forgot to comment that the disadvantage of all this is for those who do have a powerful computer but do not have a very good internet connection, since the download would take much longer!
I think that the increase of the ISO is a logical step, however, for older computers or oriented to educational environments there are other alternatives that may be better.
Hmm, that's fine, I have also noticed that now USB memories have fallen in price, and with the impact that Netbooks that come without a CD / DVD drive have had because it is something that I think or feel. Also for some PC that cannot boot from USB there are still endless Linux options to be installed from CD.
I don't care how big the iso image of a distribution is. In fact, reflecting a bit, I don't remember the last time I used a CD or DVD, I think I don't even use them anymore, not even to install the drivers for Windows machines, because I download them from the internet and I save the copies on pendrives . In fact, here in Spain, it is difficult to find virgin CDs, virgin DVDs are still being sold but 5 or 6 years ago they occupied several stands and now you only find one or two brands in a corner.
Total that there is less and less to say goodbye to CD / DVD.
I never use cd or dvd heheheh
Good friends, what serious news that our Kubuntu no longer fits on a CD, I am dismayed by the editorial but on the other hand I think I remember that the last team that only read CDs threw it in the trash about 8 years ago, on the other hand part I recognize that if there are 10 users of SEAT 600 the manufacturer should continue to make spare parts.
With all the love in the world let's be realistic and stop cheap populism.
Greetings to all
Rafael