Hello to all the readers of the blog, my name is Jesus and this is my first post to DesdeLinux. It's been 8 weeks since the team Canaima GNU / Linux announced its version 4.0 (beta), 8 weeks in which the Canaima team has received bug reports.
Help us to keep reporting bugs and to have the stable version soon. Also clarify that Canaima is based on Debian.
It is worth remembering some new features that this new version will bring:
- Gnome Desktop 3.4.
- Linux kernel 3.2.0
- X.org Windows Server 7.7.
- LibreOffice Office Suite 4.0.1.
- Cunaguaro 22.0 Web Browser (based on Iceweasel).
- Email Client Guácharo 17.0.5 (based on Icedove).
- GIMP 2.8 image manipulation program.
- Inkscape Vector Graphics Editor 0.48.
- Python 2.7 / 3.2 language.
- Perl Language 5.14.
Also with this new distribution we can install 0AD:
sudo apt-get install 0ad
To end users who want to know how their interface is looking, here I leave the Canaima Tours
To those who wish to collaborate with the bug report
Finally, invite any user who is interested in collaborating with Canaima. I hope the post has been helpful. Greetings from Venezuela!
I don't know when they will release a flavor with kde uu, will we have to wear it?
Nano, are you Venezuelan?
Yes, from Madurolandia xD 😛
Where is that island? (?)
Search in Google Earth or OpenStreetMap: «Venezuela».
I think Jesús Delgado was already quite clear about it ... I mean, he is the author of the post xD
And give him your with Madurolandia xD ...
From what I see, neither Cuangaro nor Guácharo are on par with Firefox and Thunderbird. To wait for the final version to come out to test it (from Nova, not to mention, because I don't even have access to a current version through torrents).
And when I mean that Cuangaro and Guácharo are not on par with Firefox or Thunderbird, I mean the version of both programs.
I prefer to use the original firefox on Debian-based distros
So in the end they ended up deciding on Gnome 3.4 even though in the meetings I had told them to use KDE or Mate, I thought I had heard that they did not have good shell feedback when they put it in public tests and that users were half confused ... sometimes I don't know what's going on in the minds of the CNTI D guys:
I would like to support my countrymen more but as long as they continue with that vision of the old, being able to have a KDE a day, I really don't know what happens with these people ...
Hey some of us like GNOME.
I respect your taste, I have nothing against Gnome there are many people who like it but we could have a Canaima or a better distribution using a new desktop according to the times that GNU lives, mate or cinamon even XFCE and why not KDE 4.11 and libreoffice 4.1 ...
It is not what a knowledgeable minority likes, it is that Canaima is intended for use in public institutions and the users it targets are used to XP and its form factor in the DE, that and they are used to moving everything with interfaces graphics, Gnome unfortunately does not have these capabilities by default.
It's okay, we've all been newbies, if you don't explain what Canaima GNU / Linux is, at least you should put a link in the name 🙂
hey…, it doesn't cost anything to google canaima…, you'd realize it's a distro in a moment.
Kernel 3.2? So which are they using now? If they are still based on Debian Whezzy, at least a 3.5 kernel that supports more external wifi cards.
Well, they still use kernel 2.6, which was the one used by Debian Squeeze. And do not see the problems it causes.
i will try it
it has no drivers
It would be very interesting for Canaima to incorporate into its repositories applications that are almost essential to use such as JDownloader, Syste-config-samba, Dropbox, Skype to name a few. I have tried version 3 and I liked it a lot, only that today I use PClinuxOS that has a more than extensive and innovative repository and also has a "mylivecd" script that allows me to make an iso of my system once updated and modified to my liking.
If the Canaima repositories look like mixed spaghetti XD ... To tell you that more than 50% of the packages in their current version 3.1 are not properly signed ...
That without counting the educational canaima to support it is a headache since the educational repositories is another mixture of spaghetti and without counting that the teams that deliver the very dogs still use EXT3 partitions.
I have heard all kinds of aberrations about the Canaimitas and I have even seen how they pass them to XP, I really like the idea that is proposed, but the execution is terrible.
Tor, I would love to have Linux computers delivered to my country, and if they used EXT3 it is because it came by default in Debian 6 stable.
Canaima 4 is not based on Debian 6 and the Canaimitas could have been improved a lot, but they practically just threw everything on them ...
I repeat, beautiful project, disgusting execution.
@nano I have seen atrocities that they do to the poor canaimitas when I have to give them support is a headache and I have to give a salmon to the clients why not do this or that. The idea is good to educate our country technologically but the administration and teaching is terribly bad, not counting the facilitators, most of them are pure red-red madmen who do not even know where they are standing, very few are those who really teach.
@miguel there is no excuse to save the degenerates who are in charge of educational canaima where they do a terrible installation using EXT3 where the fragmentation of the hard disk is terribly large damaging sectors on the hard disk and many times damaging the hard disk completely Every 10 computers that I repair 4 have a damaged hard drive and who replaces the hard drive? just nobody and it becomes one more team from the pile that will throw away.
Summarizing what is proposed with the Canaimites is good for the country, but unfortunately its execution is terribly bad and therefore it is a waste of money for our country.
It is true the canaima repositories are terrible, I do not understand how some distro with fewer people are better, this one that is financed by the government is so bad and that they take time. A friend told me that if it involved traditional universities it would be something else, but we already know that the ideology that this regime has with universities, free thought, justice and private enterprise.
Good comrades, I support you as much as I can, I have used this distro for a long time and I congratulate the developers. With this distro 100% stability is sought and this has been achieved and progress continues ... for those who want to have more updated versions of apps and kernel and not so stable because add the debian repo testing and voila and screw a little with the Problems that can bring "testing" new versions of apps etc: D.
I edited your comment because, just so you know, this is not a space where we want to talk about politics, nor are we for or against political figures from nowhere, therefore, your cheers, regardless of who they were, are out of place.
Now, the other comment I did not pass it on to you because it is simple bitterness of someone who has no idea how things work around here, the comment that you said they "deleted" is just this one that I am answering and it was not deleted, it was in moderation as many others and no one approved it, and if you find the "freedom of expression" here disappointing, I give you a voice that this is not a democracy, here there are rules and an established order.
Beyond that, Canaima is nothing more than pure Debian, within which, by the way, there is little "home-made"; Yes, there is a little something of its own and really made, but otherwise, Canaima is not much more than a political project. Sometimes it gives me pod because I know several developers and it is not bad, but it still does not have a personality, without having something that says that it is really Venezuelan more than Wallpapers and names.
+1
Well okay, yes, I already knew that as in many places they don't like to talk about politics, but as you say, Canaima is politicized, Obviously, since it is the socialist government who finances the project; It is based on debian yes and that it is very young since for now there are not too many developers, such as the ubuntu distro you use, and ok but give the distro time, it is better than having nothing and using winbug as it happened in many government sites in Venezuela. If I said the slogan it is because canaima Gnu / Linux is a project directed by the Venezuelan government and it is not bad to give it a slogan. Anyway friend, politics is everywhere, in sports, health etc .. It hurts that you had to edit my comment but it was good that you left at least the rest. I get it. Greetings! I hope you do not edit this 🙂
In this there is nothing to edit, the only thing I got out of that one was what was really necessary to get out so as not to cause fights.
Regarding Canaima, because I have no problem with it being based on Debian or being financed by the government, my problem in general is when they try to politicize Linux, it bothers me that they paint it as a socialist when the system and its philosophy in itself It is neutral, it does not serve anyone or anything for its ideals but for the simple fact of serving.
I myself have contact with several developers, I have been to many events and have done workshops with them and they are talented guys, but there are things that I do not see well, they do not innovate and things like Cunaguaro or Guácharo have no reason to be for me. which are just skins for Iceweasel and Icedove with bookmarks to government pages and other things.
I'm not talking just to talk, I have proposed, I have given complete ideas and I have explained how Canaima could become something really its own, use KDE, have a complete repository of applications made here in Venezuela, create an SDK, so many things man, so many things, all possible, and I was ignored much, excuses were made.
That is why I am not so fond of Canaima.
man but that's what Gnu / Linux is about, ok neutral as you say but in a way because, that is, you take a distro and you have the freedom to transform it, contribute to change its appearance etc, and then, why not call it Socialist? As simple as that, what is wrong with Socialism? NOTHING!. On the other hand I know that KDE is heavier than gnome shell, from my own experience. They chose Gnomeshell for the minimalist and advanced, although cinnamon was also there. Of course, I also gave my options, some took them, others, not and as I said, it is something that is young, it needs to develop a lot but there it goes.
Nano I give you a recommendation, start developing a browser and an email client from scratch for canaima and thus you contribute SERIOUSly and stop being so flamita ...
Meanwhile at this time the guys from Canaima develop and your commenting on this page.
Greetings good post 😀
@parapa-loquesea (long nick, it is neutral, it should not be called socialist, capitalist, or communist because it is not linked to any of those concepts, the fact that it provides freedom and that it is modifiable, the fact that it is a distro Linux does not give it any political tinge, read the 4 freedoms or the 9 guarantees of OpenSource and you will find interesting things about it.
Gnome Shell lighter and more minimalist than KDE? Man, let's get back to the technical, because what you are saying is completely a personal assessment that can easily be refuted. And if it were for the lightness, they are also doing it wrong, because they are not looking for lightness, I repeat, I have contact with the developers, what is sought is familiarity when using it, that the passage from Windows to Canaima is simple and intuitive, Gnome unfortunately not it offers what is sought and they themselves had it as a result in the open tests that were carried out in several UNEFAs in the country, there was no good reception.
@Fenriz, male, why don't you stop talking without knowing? It is true that I have not developed anything for Canaima, because in fact for Canaima nothing has been developed properly, or few things like command-lines to create flavors, but Cunaguaro or Guácharo have no reason to exist, they are just IceWeasel skins and IceDove as I said, it was not necessary to "forke the fork" when you already have a 100% free and community product ... in fact I am within the proposal to put Firefox, the original, in the Canaima repositories together with Mozilla VE ... bro, seriously limit yourself 😉
Well papararapaparaah, I agree with Nano regarding Canaima. I am Venezuelan and I do not feel that unique flavor that characterizes a Venezuelan, rather it is used as political propaganda (although I say the latter without offending, I am just trying to point out a fact). What I see cainaima is that it is Debian with a Skin, period. You say it is because the project is too new and that but I will show you with facts that it has nothing to do with it:
- Here you have Manjaro Linux. http://manjaro.org/
A fairly new distribution, barely going for version 0.8.7. Simple, robust and with a unique flavor and I assure you that it has a quarter of the time that canaima or less. It is a Distribution based on another, Archlinux. that has a variety of desks. Some officers, others not so much. Here is a report of this distribution. on this same page
And this other one, Crunchbang. Linux http://crunchbang.org/
A Debian-based distribution like Canaima, this is also newer than Canaima, but still has its own unique flavor. I would use it if it weren't because I don't love dark skins and I don't have time to sit down and tweak it to my liking. But it's still pretty good. This is only achieved with the Openbox desktop.
By the way nano, it would be good if you made a review of that Distribution if you have not already done it. I love Crunchbang and its people are very friendly.
This is what Nano and I refer to, that more than a color and that, that speaks of what the Venezuelan is and its unique flavor. That canaima is something really Venezuelan and not something politically divided. Let him talk about the tastes of the Venezuelan and what flavor he likes. That is the Idea of a Venezuelan Distribution that I really would like you to represent us.
Without offending, I have no affection for Canaima for that very reason, but I will use it, that when I use it I feel more than support a political party than support something that represents my country and my people. I love Venezuela and it is my Home. But I feel disappointed with Canaima, it could have been something surprising, but it is not, maybe later they will do it, but for now they do not have my approval.
PS: You can tell that I love Minimalist Desktops! XDD
I am not Venezuelan and I would love to have a project like Canaima in my country. It is undoubtedly a great contribution and commitment to the dissemination of free software, regardless of your political position.
regards
Yes, as you say about a young distro, but as I said there are differences in the number of developers, of people who have that great knowledge between one distro and another when it comes to grabbing a distro and modifying it almost as a form, as is the case with Ubuntu ( debian Bsed distro) ... who knows, maybe later all that changes with canaima and they make it independent of debian as others have done out there with their own types of packages, and also there are many more developers and each group supports different desktop environments. All in due time.
Canaima is not going to change, it does not have developers because the government cannot pay for a larger team and it will not have volunteers because nobody is enthusiastic about the idea, Canaima is not providing a base, does not offer anything, does not generate jobs. would you be interested?
You cannot compare it with Manjaro because it was born as a community, as a free project and without ties to ideals or institutions, Canaima is governed by an idea, a color and an institution ... I repeat, there is no comparison nor can much be expected from the project: /
What happened Jesus why did you delete my comment?…. because I said LONG LIVE CHÁVEZ AND MADURO! .. ? Pff what a better freedom of expression desde linux! disappointing!.
I do not know who deleted your comment, but I put it again to make something very clear here. As Nano told you above, this blog and politics have nothing to do with it, our only interest here is to talk about GNU / Linux, it doesn't matter whether you are on the side of Maduro or Capriles.
Therefore I ask you, do not do something like that again. It is not that there is no freedom of expression, but that the expression you used has nothing to do with this blog. I hope you understand..
Bald no one had deleted his comments -_- he was in moderation late at night and I just deleted that one because I had nothing to do with the subject, the one that I had posted before I only modified it so that unnecessary instructions would not come out ... damn
Excellent, a Latin American distro based on Debian rock.
Maybe download it to try ... It has caught my attention a few days ago that I started reading your name on various sites ..
It seems to me a very good distribution, complete, easy to use and it has given me good results.
I would like to be able to comment on canaima / linux and the reason for its development, but unfortunately they would surely censor me in this blog since I observe that freedom of opinion does not exist or is relative, I say it because they have done it before, and For example, that of going around editing the post is not to my liking so I'm sure this opinion will be censored or edited… This will be my last participation in these parts I have sympathy for the blog but… ..
true man. It will be that they ended up editing that comment. It seems.
I want to make some things clear about this little topic.
@Lovelltux you can give your opinion about Canaima what you want as long as within that comment you are not consigning political questions of one or another aspect of thought. Whether or not you like the distro, you can say so. Now, if it bothers you to participate or if it is the last time you do it, well man, corduroy, how sad for you, this has been said and will continue to be said: "It is not a democracy, there is an established order" and nothing of "Half freedom of expression" very clear we leave the community that:
Nor politics
No religion
So, if you like it, great! and if not, bro, the door is wide for those who want to enter or leave.
It goes without saying why they were developed, these distros are simply an insult to humanity, even to call them as such, in Spain we have 1 for each autonomous community, and none offers anything that the mother distro does not have, and most of the time It is used by the governments of the day, of one color or another, to say that they support free software.
You are going to continue naming that monster, sorry to that distro, there will be a filter in the messages that helps to avoid any message regarding the canaimas and canaimos, hehehehehehehe.
At least one attempt to value free software in Venezuela.
Friend, Canaima is not a freak, rather, it is a metadistro.
I have to say that it has behaved much better than Ubuntu / Lubuntu / Kubuntu (which took 3 hours to install because they had to download packages from the internet). The latter were slower than this distro, which has been the one I use for a year for these reasons.
So you better try before you speak, with all the respect you deserve, you assholes are not true.
I liked the orientation that they have given to canaima, and with this it will lower the impedance of the users of (apn) to the migration with these changes 😀
Nano a recommendation: Due to professional ethics and confidentiality, it is not advisable to publish such comments boasting whether or not you know the CNTI guys or giving details of the project. Cheers
The details of the project are open and what the guys (of whom I have not mentioned names) have told me are all totally public about open tests done in institutions to check the acceptance of which or which environments.
There is nothing secret or that you cannot find out by asking questions on the lists or at the events, everything I have said, they say it openly 🙂
I installed it once, I remember very well that it did not last three days xD the Wifi did not work xD
3.1 is much more manageable with the drivers, of course it lacks but compared to the first ...
It must be recognized that the new version of Canaima will bring a 3.2 kernel since the stable version has a 2.6 kernel.
I agree with many of the comments but the others respect their point of view.
I wrote the post to publicize Canaima and not talk about politics, something that the blog administrators have made very clear and I do not understand those who insist on speaking, insulting and falling into fanaticism creating novels about it (politics).
It must be recognized, it hurts whoever hurts, that Free Software in Venezuela has gained great strength through the delivery of millions of computers with Free Software to primary school children for free; btw, this force continues to grow every day.
We talk about how much or bad a distro is but we do not look for a way to collaborate even with a tiny line of code. That does not edify.
Hopefully many countries in our Latin America follow this example of educating through Free Software.
Another thing, the Canaima team announced this morning the second beta (worth the publicity). Don't be surprised if I make another post or review but this time better documented.
Finally, thank the blog administrators for the approval of the post. 🙂 * End of novel *
I do not stop politics in our country in the end, everyone does what they want. But if I had liked a Venezuelan Linux to the latest, for example the kernel 3.2 is old compared to 3.11 that has new drivers and much more support there is the big difference and gnome 3.4 I prefer xfce 4.10 that is what I mean ... I have I tested canaima on a pc that fixed and from my own experience I have been able to observe that it is very heavy for the canaimitas that they deliver to children ...
@nano calm down old man do not follow the games of others.
@pandev please don't be more daddy than the pope and it's bad sometimes to compare hopefully for each state we had more distributions, maybe someday soon.
@Frank davila partner, please moderate your words, not because they are rude.
Personally, I do use canaima, and I like gnome 2 because of how light it is, and as nano at the time, some developers told them about kde and xfc or at least the need for several flavors, because many do not have computers very powerful (as happens in many state entities), so if I have things against how the system is managed, but what I use canaima works for me and I like it and I do not consider it good to be ungrateful to the team. I hope they reconsider the failures and improve, as they benefit many.
Thank you
PD is very silly to fight for mixed politics on this issue and to do it here, it is a lack of respect for elav and company that are not even from the country where their politics are discussed.