What of ChrOpera It is my invention, it is not the official name far from it, but it comes from the fact that a Preview of what will be the new version of Opera which is nothing more than Chromium / Chrome with another name.
Hey .. Stop !!! My intention is not to criticize, because I will be the first to try it when there is a version for GNU / Linux, because of course, first Windows and OS X, and then the rest. According to the Opera developers, Linux users are important to them, so we'll have a version for us soon.
The new and the not so new
As I said before, Opera 15 will Chrome with some additions and slight changes in the interface. Although I have not used it yet, from the screenshots that I have been able to see, it is easy to see the similarity of both browsers except for the design of the tabs of each one.
From Chrome the navigation bar is inherited, which now integrates the history and searches in the engines that we have installed, and the extensions. The Speed Dial allows us to group our favorite pages into folders and I understand that it also replaces bookmarks, as they can read here.
Discover y S are two new features of Opera that I find super interesting. Discover It is a tab that contains the most relevant news of the day.
Meanwhile S, what it does is allow us to save the sites that we want to read later. We just have to click on the heart symbol in the address bar and when we want to return, we go to the Stash section in the Speed Dial and retrieve the saved pages.
Separate mail client
At last my prayers have been answered. I always asked that the Opera mail client be independent of the browser and this has been carried out under the name M2.
The negatives for some and positives for others
Something that users have criticized is the weight of the application. Previously, All-Inclusive Opera weighed about 12.6 Mb and now the browser alone weighs 24 Mb approximately, plus the approximate 11 Mb of M2. As this version is only a Preview, it lacks a lot of things to implement (keyboard shortcuts, fixed tabs ... etc), so to complain to motherhood.
Another point against for many users is that the mail client is separated from the browser .. Sorry guys, you can't please everyone, and now it's my turn to enjoy 😛
What if I have not seen anywhere is the position of Opera with respect to the usual "closed" development of your browser. Will they open their doors now somehow?
Something negative (in part) for me: The adoption of Webkit. Why? Why is everyone still on that path? In the end we will end up developing only for Webkit. Goodbye to competition, goodbye to variety, goodbye to innovation ... That's how I see it.
However, for me it is good news. Presto had a lot of good things, but it has always been below Gecko y web kit. I hope that these changes influence the rendering of the fonts and correct all the incompatibilities that it presented Opera with many websites. And man, since we are: Release Presto.
Further information: Opera Desktop Team
He lost his identity, and is now a Chrome ...
I know, it's only a beta but it lost a lot of things that its previous version had, especially its customization.
It is very fast to load pages, not so for animations, and sometimes it stays in the animation when changing tabs.
Right now I'm commenting from it, I really like its loading speed and fast startup, not its Discovery function, I see it somewhat useless.
I like the idea of Stash, keep your pages in a nice interface.
The "Turbo" mode is renamed "All Terrain".
I like it a lot, it is very light and fast, in terms of RAM consumption it is a little better than before, but its characteristics that made it special are missed, especially the RSS reader, the notes and the mail client.
Hopefully they will implement Link soon and more customization: S
The Opera Link is being developed, as well as some of the functionalities that they had in previous versions.
Example) excerpt from the Opera Link page:
«Thanks for using the new Opera browser!
We are working to improve the synchronization and to integrate it more in our new generation of browsers.
Designed from scratch means that syncing is not yet supported by Opera versions 14 and above.
Very soon you will be able to sync with Opera.
Thanks for your understanding."
it works very well, but the weight change is noticeable ...
I did not find the opera link: penita
FREE PRESENT!
Hahaha!!!
Pear. It is one thing for Opera to use Webkit and another for it to become another Chrome. They were?
In both things ..
Yes, the author's tongue goes a bit with this. Quoting. "Opera 15 will be Chrome with some additions and slight changes to the interface."
According to that Chrome, which uses Webkit, is nothing more than Safari with the modified interface. Nothing is further from reality. One thing is the rendering engine (😀 word taken from wikipedia) and another thing is the browser. That of expressing the opinion is very good, but please without atrocities.
Well, if you don't inherit things from Chromium / Chrome then you copied them 100% .. Example the omnibar.
Opera has always had the search / address bar, even before Chrome came out
It seems that the editor should learn a little more before talking about Opera hehe .. Opera was blatantly copied from all browsers, these words tell you something: tabs, speed dial, navigate with mouse gestures, closed tab bin and many other features that appeared in Opera before any other browser ..
Thanks Opera for everything you have given us.
Who said that Opera has not innovated? I just said that Opera now is Chromium with another interface and some additions ..
Ale you are absolutely right, it is always the same story: Opera invents it, Firefox copies it and Chrome copies it to Firefox.
Ok, if it's so much the problem, let's all use Midori and voila 😀
Another who uses Webkit? Do not stop.
OT: No. 7 @diazepan
The Opera Turbo has not been equaled and / or surpassed so far.
I was watching the releasenotes y this comment from one of the Opera team members and it seems to me that he is not using WebKit, but Blink, or maybe a mix of both.
The truth is, I can't help feeling some disappointment. I'm using it right now (if I'm not mistaken the user agent should mark it as Chrome, but it's Opera Next 15) and everything on the outside is almost the same as Chrome. The menus are also calcaditos to those of Chrome. I feel that Opera finally found the formula to solve those compatibility problems that it has dragged on since its creation, but it did it at a very high price, which was to lose its own essence.
In fact, if they are using Blink it means that Opera is no longer Opera, it is Chromium with another interface, because as it explains this section from Blink documentation, Blink cannot work separately, it needs to be stuck to Chromium by force. The aforementioned comment and this from another member of the Opera team reaffirm that they are using Chromium as a framework.
So draw your own conclusions. Some may no longer find reasons to use Opera. "For what? If it's just Chromium with another interface, then better to use the original Chromium ». But perhaps that is too hasty a conclusion. It is a browser with the combined features of Chromium (including separate processes and even some of its extensions) and Opera (not all yet, but they will be re-included), and we all also know that Norwegians are used to doing things very very good. Already at this moment I feel it somewhat lighter than Chromium itself, and I would not be surprised if from now on it ends up implementing all the functions of Google's browser even better than the original. Chromium may be the one that ends up losing on its own ground to the "copy."
It is unfortunate that Opera has not dared to release its own rendering engine, because if it did, it would be occupying the place that Webkit has and thus would have avoided this type of misstep that it has just committed.
Regarding performance, I can say that it has improved somewhat, but it does use a bad version of Chromium nightly (28 has more bugs than 29, which I am using at the moment that has already fixed most of the bugs that it had) and does not have the will enough to be able to release its source code of its flagship product (Netscape did it and the result of it is Mozilla Firefox and forks like Iceweasel).
Anyway, I hope you solve that impasse with Blink / Webkit and at least restore the essence of the browser (I admit that Opera is the fastest browser in the world thanks to Presto, which even on cell phones like Android has a performance that surpasses even Chrome for Android / iOS).
I'm downloading it to see how it goes.
does not operate link for now, so flip
no urlfilter.ini, so bye, let's get on with the old opera for now
I use Opera due to the fact that it has the Presto engine and on my old computer it moves really well, which WebKit or Gecko don't. If they remove it I'll go back to Firefox.
I don't want to discourage you ...
https://blog.desdelinux.net/opera-se-pasa-a-webkit/
I don't want to discourage you either, but Chromium uses Blink and the version that Opera is based on is 28, which is a version that has so many bugs (at least, chromium 29 has fixed most of the bugs it had) .
Well OPERA takes advantage of the CHROMIUM code.
Since CHROMIUM is under the BSD License.
LibreOffice 4.1 Beta does the same with Apache OpenOffice 4.0 which in turn uses Lotus Symphony code under the BSD License.
http://www.chimerarevo.com/libreoffice-4-1-avra-la-sidebar-multifunzione-di-lotus/
Maybe the innovations are over? Or will it be the needs to compete and not waste time developing new ideas?
Error: IBM Lotus Symphony is based on OOo, not the other way around.
IBM with Lotus used the OpenOffice code and made it proprietary.
But I mean the graphical interface and other code contributed by IBM in Lotus Symphony ... OpenOffice never had one
SIDEBAR (Side Bar). Open Office always had the interface of Office 2003.
We had to wait for IBM to release the Lotus code to see SIDEBAR.
Well, I loved it, I like Webkit but I hate the interface that has chrome / chromium (in addition to being practically spyware), this interface looks very clean, it is very fast (the version of Opera for Linux is too slow, especially in startup time). Only some functions of the previous browser are missed, hopefully they will be reincorporated little by little.
just in case I'm commenting from Opera, not Chrome (Oh Wait! xD)
Since Opera will be based on chromium, collecting user data as its base? They CANNOT deny that chrome & chromium collect data EQUAL.
chrome / chromium spyware is something from your browser, the rendering engine has nothing to do with it
I'm not in Opera, but in Chromium nightly with Blink instead of webkit (forgive me if I use Windows Vista, but I'm downloading Debian Wheezy with UGet because my smartphone with PDANet doesn't support torrent downloads and I have to use UGet to download the DVD1).
Opera 15 already uses Blink, don't say so is something else (it's based on Chromium, not Chrome)
That was already obvious. Too bad Google Chrome takes so long to implement blink.
Slow like the bad guy's horse ... slower than safari !! The options and plugins menu is the same as chrome .. what a disappointment, I continue with firefox and safari both therefore.
* cofcof * Safari * cofcof *
If we compare the very nighly build of Chromium to the official version of Safari, I would automatically opt for Chromium because Safari is completely unstable even on Windows.
Safari for windows died more than a year ago, in osx it is not unstable, it just lacks many plugins
Unfortunately, Safari has become IE's learner.
The potential of the Opera browser with its functions and functionalities + webkit = The best browser in the world
Chrome seems to me a garbage, it lacks functionalities, not even with the add-ons it can overcome how functional Opera is,
I admit that Chromium in some cases is powerless compared to Opera, which is like SeaMonkey, but at featherweight (Opera currently occupies 11 MB installed on Windows compared to SeaMonkey's Gorilla, which is not even half of what it is the browser of the big "O" and has an installed size of approximately 60 MB).
If you have the same Chromiu engine, the omnibar works in the same way and disables the tab sandboxing that makes Chrome / Chromium so heavy for memory and the team will surely test it thoroughly, to see if after so many years I will return to use it.
It was a shame that for version 7.64 they had the mystical fart of wanting to develop an "all-inclusive internet suite" in the Seamonkey style and neglecting what made them really famous: the excellent browser that Opera was once.
Let's see how it continues.
I don't like it, it tends to monopoly. the only one that faces is Firefox XD
I think Google put a good ticket for this decision
That is a very subjective impression, the code is different, you cannot say that based on screenshots, if we do not see the code we cannot judge that ugly.
You're right about the source code, but as the saying "everything comes in through the eyes" goes, it might disappoint some by using Blink as a rendering engine.
Now, when it comes to using the hardware resources, I suppose they will be working on it, since in Chromium, when logging in to facebook, it slows down when we try to see previous publications (which increases the browser cache increase) and in some cases, affect the whole browser (which has not happened to me with GNOME2 in Debian Squeeze).
I hope Opera combines the good of Presto with the modularity of Webkit / Blink for the good of netizens.
I already deleted it, back in version 16, if they have put the same functions back and it feels smooth again, I will use it again.
From what I see, I prefer to continue using the stable version of Opera to synchronize my favorites that I have added to my cell phone.
It's funny to always see a lot of people using Windows and Mac OSX commenting around here. The opera was a tremendous browser but I said it was now more of the same wanting to cover more, being increasingly heavy and not very original. Firefox for the masses and midori for the powerusers. For those of us who only want to play and entertain ourselves on GNU / Linux there is Chrome, what else can I say? I prefer to use Chrome than to use flash directly in all my browsers, I don't know which is worse. Konqueror is slow and has also lost much of what characterized it. And Arora more of the same with webkit but with QT interface.
The Galeon is lost in action and the Epiphany is not the same as before. Speaking of modern and free browsers, I think that the ones that measure up are Midori; Rekonq; Firefox; Seamonkey. Because the others cover more than what is needed or simply need more communities. But in terms of rendering engines, now everyone is betting on webkit, I hope that innovation does not stop in this area or we will see ourselves as years ago with Internet Explorer dominating the scene. With Webkit everywhere I don't think it's the best. It operates if they were released soon a few years ago where they would not be but always those companies preferring to abandon technologies instead of giving them up.
I always use firefox and for some very specific things I use chrome, it will be a matter of installing and testing
It's a WHY, it doesn't have anything that I just like about the "original" Opera.
And to add insult to injury a few days ago the only version we have of Opera for Linux is failing, it is very slow, the pages do not open, it closes and it is on several machines with different distributions.