In the mailing list of developers Debian has been announced by Neil mcgovern, who debian wheezy (aka Testing), it will go into the freezing phase (freezing) next June 30, that is, next week.
Everything seems nice to me, except that there is something that worries me. When you go into the freeze phase, new versions of packages are not included unless it is for something very necessary. In matters of Desktops, already in Debian Testing we have complete (or almost, I'm not sure) all packages of Gnome 3.4, the packages of KDE 4.8but my dear Xfce 4.10 it's still in the Experimental repositories, as they haven't even passed it to Sid.
So nothing, to wait to see if for the next version Stable de Debian is included Xfce 4.10, although in truth, I will always use Testing 😀
Excuse the ignorance, but what does this mean?
Currently Debian 7 (Debian Wheezy) is the current Debian Testing, with Debian Squeeze (6) the current stable one. This means that on June 30, the current Testing will stop including so many new packages or applications, and an intensive review phase will begin to be considered the current stable, thus replacing Debian Squeeze (6).
This is one of the things that pisses me off about Debian, how closed-minded they are sometimes.
Let's see, with all the problems with Gnome Shell and the migration to XFCE it would be a huge plus to come out with the latest version of the 3 predominant desktops.
What do I say that those who are in stable will not give them an attack by waiting another month for XFCE 4.10 to enter 😛 What's more, they don't dare with XFCE 4.10 but nevertheless they introduce xserver 1.12. If they wanted stability, 1.11 was more viable, right? I don't know, these things don't fit me.
(PS: it seems that the login with wordpress works well hehe)
The problem is that every package available in Debian has different maintainers. Maybe the developers who maintain Xfce they have nothing to do with those who maintain Xorg, or some other package.
They establish a period for each development of the new stable and when they consider it to be stable enough, they make "the cut", it is not a question of more or less new versions.
Packages do not advance at the same rate, if they were dedicated to waiting to have "the latest version" of each package, the stable one would never come out, because there would always be a new version about to come out.
and how long does the freezing phase last?
I wanted to install it on my netbook and it seems that I do not recognize the disk 🙁
Is there any hope that it will try again but with the net install of testting it works for me?
ubuntu, fedora and arch caught me well (I'm testing with the latter but it brings me many coplications)
All I can say is that I trust the decisions of the Debian development team.
I only know one thing I will always use testing no matter what so I have no problem anyway there is a ppa that can be added in debian from xfce so there is not much problem in that.
Merlin could you pass me the ppa to install xfce 4.10 ??, I'm dying to try it !!!!
I have it installed using the experimental repositories and so far no problem.
regards
Excellent, isn't there a list where the complete packages are written up to now? same step from Crunchbang to Debian Stable 😛
the ones in dark green are the ones in testing
http://people.debian.org/~fpeters/debian-gnome-3.4-status.html
Thanks for the link, so apparently I was not wrong, not all applications are 100%.
I think that by the time wheezy defrosts, xfce 4.12 will be there
Mmmmmm…. well the safest thing is that by next year Wheezy will be the Debian stable
The truth is I am not very in favor of the Debian policy… although I recognize that installing a Debian Stable on a server is to feel total and absolute peace….
But for a common user it is a tie to the past since everything is lived improving and updating, there is no package that does not save itself from the improvements and from being updated ... And even if they do not believe it, we need those improvements and updates ...
Debian is fine ...
Well, I have all the repos in Testing, except for Mate Desktop which Wheezy says, I don't think I should change anything until I hear from the Mate folks.
If I'm wrong I need guidance 🙂
Anyway, it has not yet been officially announced, and knowing the background of squeeze, which was delayed several times, it still cannot be said with total certainty
we will be awaiting the official announcement on debian.org
what I wonder is if really wheezy will come with the hurd kernel completely stable and functional
Hmm interesting, I've been testing the Hurd and kFreeBSD kernels on Debian for a while, but I'd like to know beforehand if this would bring any advantage over Linux.
Well, I use Sid xD Although I will be aware of this ...
I like Debian because of how dynamic the developers are.
Until now I was able to update all the information regarding the different versions. Before I was only satisfied with the stable branch, due to the servers issue, but now I am also venturing into the desktop area with Debian.
If it were to become stable, I imagine that in the sources.list we would have to change the wheezy to testing to continue using Debian testing? or I'm wrong. 🙁
greetings.
Si
It is a fantastic distro I always use debian in testing only stable use the first months of its release to test its unique stability but sooner or later you have to install some packages a little more current than the stable ones and that was the reason why I do not use that distro but it is still the distro of my loves….
With that freeze, I would like to know how to keep working on the testing branch. That is, how to keep updating when they launch the next branch of tests? Do you have to edit the source list or should you do something else? Thanks for your input
If it is in the sources.list, it only edits the part where it says "stable" or "wheezy" for "testing" then it always stays in that branch ...