En Very linux published a few days ago, an article where they talk about some data provided by NetApplications where it was shown that the share of GNU / Linux, it had dropped considerably in February of this year. The graph that I show you below speaks for itself:
Before giving my opinion I must clarify that I have not the slightest idea about the method used by NetApplications to obtain this data.
Now, from my point of view, who cares if GNU / Linux increased or decreased your market share? I think it is more than clear that a different result could not be expected. Unlike Windows o Mac OS X, Linux It does not have a company behind it, centralizing everything and paying for publicity as long as it exists.
But there are things that are curious to me. A website (say Facebook or WordPress.com) the more it grows, the more resources it needs, so the number of servers used increases. As far as I know, these servers don't use Windows, in any case they use some Unix Operating System and in general, the most used is GNU / Linux. Doesn't this data count?
Another thing that I see every day is the increasing number of users who are using Free software, even some, bound by migration policies in their countries or companies. It will be that my preference for sites related to the Open Source is the reason why I did not find out about the possible millions of users who leave GNU / Linux, if this is possible, but I ask myself the following question: How is it that the famous 1% of users of Linux does not increase?
I'm not going to talk about what we all already know. The simple fact that Windows is the Operating system installed by PC vendors, it will always make your PC have the biggest advantage and possibly never lose the # 1 spot, but again, who cares? Do some of you lose sleep for the simple fact that Windows is the most used?
I feel that this article makes my point of view quite clear. I don't care if Linux just use it Torvalds, stallman and me. As long as its development does not die, as long as it remains free, as long as I continue to feel free, for me it will always be: Number one.
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For the home user it does matter, the higher the share, the better the drivers, the more support from the manufacturers, the more games, and so on, we cannot lock ourselves in things like * Who cares if GNU / Linux increased or decreased its market share? *
With this reasoning we are not going anywhere.
I understand your point of view and yes, in that you are right. But it seems to me that if Linux is where it is today, and it has the support it has, it is not for home users as you say, but for companies.
I am going to tell you a couple of anecdotes that have happened to me in recent months and for which I think that LINUX with Ubuntu at the head cannot go in any other direction but upwards.
It turns out that on November 21 we had demonstrations and talks on the food products that we sell at my workplace, since we are authorized distributors of a very important brand in my country, the fact is that we invited some customers and what a surprise that takes me when the representative of the headquarters and in charge of giving the talk turns on his laptop and on the big screen of the tv the ubuntu logo begins to flash and then the slides begin in nothing more nor less than open office, most likely this team make part of your work envelope and have it configured with free software to reduce expenses, which is what large companies do to reduce expenses. The company is an alloy of three large companies Tecnas SA Alico and CI Talsa
The other anecdote happened on February 01, 2012
It turns out that in my country there is a very powerful company blurred throughout its length and breadth, its business consists mainly in the sale of chance but also provides a large number of additional services including the sale of soat (mandatory insurance against traffic accident ) it turns out that I had to renew my insurance so to avoid delays I went to the nearest GANA and what a surprise when I could see out of the corner of my eye that the operating system from which the process was carried out was none other than the LINUX Ubuntu To calm my curiosity, I asked if this system was used in all the service centers and the employee told me that in the new PCs that came as a work package, it was beginning to arrive with this new platform and that only the old sites still had Windows. The company is called Gana sa and it has sales sites everywhere.
WE ALL KNOW THAT UBUNTU IS NOT LINUX but the best known and most used distro and seeing how it manages to displace windows from what was once its place I doubt very much that Linux is going downhill.
In those cases, because Uncle Mark and his henchmen have paid companies to install Ubuntu, if I don't doubt they would use it, they would use OpenSUSE or Fedora.
Well, I agree with you elav, and even Linus assures that his main objective has never been to monopolize the entire market with Linux, but to do things well. That is enough for me.
And I think the graphs should tell how many people use Free Software or OpenSource and how many don't. That would be a much more interesting statistic in my opinion.
For me it would be better if it continues in a reduced percentage, in certain situations you feel as if you have something that others do not have and you can handle, you have become familiar with it, (it makes you superior hahaha) and although sometimes some programs that they are only in…. Well that is obvious, every time the tools that jump to the web compensate it and even the software that I find for Linux is also available to others, it will never stop being part of the free community, and giving a new, more efficient solution. best
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That bears the stamp of picky XD
For some time now, it seems that Muylinux has become fond of yellowishness and neglected what free software is.
We all know that these types of "statistics / measurements" are not even remotely true and that depending on what you look at it will be 1, 0.1 or 10% and surely neither is right.
Doing an article on market shares based on what one of these pages says in a month is not serious at all, even if it was credible, fluctuations are totally normal and more just after Christmas when it is time to buy equipment that they will bring yes or yes their respective private license.
Regardless of what they want us to believe or the desire they have in a certain site to gain visits at the expense of bland articles that all they seek is controversy, because saying they do not say anything, it is clear that the trend in terms of the quota The market for GNU / Linux is on the rise, very slowly, it will take a long time for us to speak of a considerable position in the market, if that is the case, but the 1% has been a lie for a long time.
The real market share, according to somewhat more real estimates, but far from certain, the market share of the main operating systems currently, would leave GNU / Linux with a quota of between 5 and 8% (nothing specific but within of that margin), Mac OS, over 10%, maybe something else (it has had enormous growth in recent years) And Windows not much above 80%, and losing share at the rate that its competitors gain (which it is very little, but that they have separated it a lot from that 97 or 98% that it had in its day).
What does the above mean? Absolutely nothing, because it is not possible for me to prove anything, nor can I assure anything because I do not know for sure and I do not do an article about it precisely because of SEO, it would be absurd.
From a time to this part? I thought it was since that site exists XD.
The truth is that for me the future is of web and multiplatform applications. But if the truth is that a system is popular, it has its advantages (and disadvantages). More games and better drivers is a bonus.
I believe that I am enlightened by Christ, because of all the times that I have installed a distribution, never! I have battled with some drivers, which is not as good as it seems because the day it happens to me I will cry like a little girl.
I must accept that when I started using Linux that was something that seemed important to me. Not now, four years with Linux and seeing that it is constantly evolving leaves me very calm. Although good, a 5% fee would not be bad at all 😉
The truth is, it doesn't matter.
The fluctuation between the highest and lowest peaks is always the same.
Greetings.
Idem: It doesn't matter.
So much so that as long as I left windows, I did not care that even though I could not activate my microphone and solve the problems that the AMD RADEON 6310M chip gives me (with free and proprietary driver) I have not been able to leave Linux Mint, Since firefox, chromium, aptana studio, phppgadmin give me what I need to avoid returning to the windows system.
Canoni $ oft, Novell, Mandriva, Red Hat… Heh heh heh.
Anyway, if those graphics are from MuyWinbuntu, I don't trust them anymore.
Have a trauma with Ubuntu and / or Canonical? because I'm starting to worry that you're always messing (in one way or another - normally subtle -) with them.
I tell you from love XDD
Now do you know that I don't like them?
I have not said that ._. I've known for months, I'm just saying what's wrong with them? They have not pointed a gun at you and they have not forced you to use Ubuntu xD as far as I know of course, otherwise call the police.
It is their actions that generate these things for me, and of course, the ubunto.
No case, that Courage is an extremist like that in everything haha
Fuck Sandy it seems that in your life you have run into a Ubuntoso
I think that if it matters… .. the more we are there will be more and better support….
By the way, of all the times that I have commented here, the user agent of the comments has never recognized me well, let's see if it does now….
12.04 Pangolin beta 1 / Firefox 11.0
I prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY.
In other words, I prefer that we be 500 GNU / Linux users that we REALLY contribute, that we contribute, that we think for ourselves, that we are intelligent, capable ... than that we are 500.000.000 and 99.9% are brainless idiots, incapable of solving a problem , Googling, reading documentation (either in English or Spanish), panicking at the terminal, etc.
At least that's how I see it 🙂
Then the FSF will never achieve its goals and Stallman would not be a visionary. His philosophy would be doomed to failure and all his hopes would be lost in time. I prefer to believe that we will be able to convince 500 million sheep. That will be the signal that free software triumphs.
Well, I think it does matter ... I'm up to the kernel that every time I have to fill in a form, access online training or anything else normal, it is assumed that I use Redmond products (Window $, Office, explorer , etd). Without going any further, a few months ago I did a training course that marked "a standard web browser" as requirements. My unpleasant surprise is that the contents could only be accessed via Micro $ oft's Internet Explorer (confirmed with the relevant customer service).
Since when is ie "the" standard browser? (being the one that meets the least standards, on the other hand ...)
In short, it does matter how many we are, so that we can have the same rights as the rest of the users of services on other systems ... Personally, I do not choose GNU / Linux because it is different, but as a personal option and philosophy (I don't want to pay for a license Windows (office, etc), nor do I think it is good to hack it, especially with such good or better options)
Greetings to all!
Hello and welcome 😀
What you mention is an evil that overwhelms us all ... but, being more (the majority) it is not the only way to solve this problem.
If we were the "adequate" it would also be solved.
For example, suppose you work in a company where everyone uses Microsoft Office, one fine day you introduce your boss to LibreOffice, you explain that it does the same and represents savings of thousands of dollars for the company, your boss ends up liking it and uses it. The problem is that the rest of the company does NOT want to use it…. well, (and here the important detail) ... your boss demands that you send him the projects, documents and etc in ODT format. Ready, matter solved.
With a single person (the right one) a company was migrated… see how simple? 😀
Greetings and welcome once again.
Hello,
Indeed, not because it is more is more right, totally agree. And I also agree that quality matters much more than quantity. At the end of the day, if the difference in quality is great, and is maintained over time, it is a matter of waiting for people in general to realize it and change their minds.
As for being "the right ones", well, because if we don't move this between all of us ... we're going badly. But for my particular misfortune, although I would be an enthusiastic collaborator, my programming knowledge can be considered non-existent, and there will be many like me, who the only thing we can do to contribute is to put good will in finding solutions, testing, and helping other colleagues That they have problems that we've already been through.
And relative to changing the right person ... I don't know about you, and the environments in which you can move and work, but in my personal case, I've gone from feeling fed up with being looked at as a freak every time I talk about the advantages of free software in general, to take it as something inherent to me, even if it serves to hang the label on me and label me a geek, weird, nonconformist ... or whatever comes to mind.
Even people who did not know the concept of Internet browser (for that person "internet" = "explorer" ...), much less that Window $ is an "operating system", ended up giving me a look of contempt and a mixture of "bug-" rare".
And looking at companies, it seems quite unfeasible to me. If the public institutions themselves demand documents in proprietary formats, and buy the corresponding licenses with public money ... I think it is a utopia to convince people who have not known anything else in their lives to change, especially if that change involves minimal learning /adaptation. People who don't live "for computers" just want to hit the button and make it work, and they don't care how you do it or what it implies.
Of course, when they load something (or rather, "it breaks by itself"), they always call "the weirdo" ...
For my part, 100% of the people with whom I have had the opportunity to talk about these issues have had to suffer my speech ... but no one has made the slightest attempt to take the step. Well yes, a friend, who when he saw the desk different from his a lifetime, did not want to try anything else. And this is one of the "computer geeks" I know ...
Anyway, thanks for the welcome, I hope I can share with everyone what little I know and how much I want to learn.
Spreading the benefits of Linux, whether doing artwork or tutorials, or helping other users in the forums is already a contribution to take into account. Not everything is programming; each one contributes what they know, which is always more than it seems.
And the thing is that GNU / Linux is synonymous with community, of cooperation, but without neglecting the individual decisions of each one, and that is one of the reasons why I am here. It does not matter if we represent 1% or 8% of the market, the important thing is that we lose the values and virtues of this IT philosophy. Open source has only one way, and that is to improve and improve.
It's been a long time since I left the Windows ship altogether, and today I see no reason to go back. If governments and companies really open their eyes, they would save a lot of money and contribute to progress ... But hey, as long as Microsoft, Apple and company continue to put profits first, we can only weather the storm and continue working for a better future.
A greeting.
+1
ups, the previous comment has been very long ... My apologies for my "typing" ...: S
HAHAHAHAHA nah what are you saying, it was a pleasure to read it 😀
You are right, if the licenses are bought with public money and not with that of their own pockets, we are doing badly ... because they do not see the expense as such.
Anyway, it's just about everyone doing a little awareness 🙂
Greetings friend 😀
The reality is that for commercial companies, market share does matter. And this indirectly influences the end users of the different operating systems, because for example, for Windows there are many more options than for other platforms, although from a technological point of view it is inferior to these in certain aspects.
To illustrate it better: suppose a new company is going to develop an attractive business game. Which market do you think will represent the greatest potential?
Linux (1.07%)
Android (1.38%)
iOS (4.38%)
Mac (6.40%)
Windows (85.01%)
Of course, multi-platform development is the best, but sometimes this is not feasible due to the complexity or cost of the projects.
In addition, the change of the statistics from one month to another does not have great importance, but the variations from one year to another are important, because if there is a platform that begins to take a marked interest, investing in this platform early can be a good commercial strategy of positioning before the competition.
It happens that since most Linux distributions are free and have a wide repository of applications that in many cases are also free, the market perceives that Linux users have no interest in commercial applications (which are also usually proprietary, which which drives away the most radical), so they consider the investment a waste of time and resources. Remember that the main thing for a commercial production company is ROI (return on investment).
However, these statistics must be taken with a pinch of salt. I don't know who uses NetApplications, but for example, distrowatch regularly publishes a statistic of the operating systems that visitors use, and it happens that many use Linux for servers and not so much for workstations, or never visit distrowatch. Also said site is probably only interesting only for users called distro-hoppers, who can visit the site today with one distribution, and tomorrow with a different one.
Linux is also used for other things that are rarely used on the Internet, such as media players, refrigerators, cars, etc., so I do not think it is necessary to be alarmed by the supposed market share that appears in these types of statistics.
On the other hand, if Linux suddenly became the most used platform, I think that the avalanche of proprietary applications could extinguish the small free projects that are usually done in free time and without great resources.
So after all, maybe keeping a low profile is beneficial for Linux and free software in general, who knows. Time will have the last word.
Excellent opinion! I totally share with you, elav (:
We are not interested in numbers, we are interested in the quality of things
The flagship that was Ubuntu at least for the new user of Linux, is making waters, so that we may be in a situation similar to that of before the appearance of its appearance. Now the new user does not know what to do when faced with Linux, what to install ... in addition to the fact that the belief that a linux user is using the console all day has not yet been eradicated.
Mark Canonical's prediction of 200 million users… what garbage can I find it in.
Finally, I don't give a damn about the fee. Hardware recognition is progressing well, it seems to me ... and things have changed a lot in recent years (and the one that comes to us). I feel like in Linux, being part of a fantastic user community and knowing part of the future…. and without the burden that, for example, my Windows friends have, all day long that if it cracks that if I don't know what ...
Let's not put together an apocalypse based on Ubuntu's "backtracking". Although I didn't use it, it was the distribution I started with, but not because Ubuntu was the easiest or most stable, but because it is the one that is most widely spread throughout the network. He knew how to put together a great merchandising around his product, which is very commendable in that sense and he knew how to tempt some developers with Launchpad.net.
However, the major developments on GNU / Linux did not come from Canonical since both Red Hat and Novell take the lead in this regard.
I believe that all the links are fundamental in the free software chain, but much more these last two that I just mentioned
As has already been said, what really matters is that there are people behind supporting the project.
Courage forgive me, but that comment from Now do you know that I
they fall bad?. Well, he's a bit gay, are you sure you're not a woman?
I turn it over to repeat these discussions, they are silly, what we have to agree on is to solve the linux problems, such as the programs and games that many use in win and problems such as why kde cannot use gnome things, that scares to the first-time user, the problem is not ubuntu, in fact unity and kde seem like the future to me, only that the first one is still raw, gnome is gnome and its word is simplicity.
So friends as long as they do not agree to solve the problems, those of win will continue with their monopoly, (well I use pirated copies in win jrjéje)
I explain it:
A long time ago on my Mierdofu $ account, I used the avatar of the female Sacrier just like many men do.
After several avatars that I had I put this one on.
And I'm not the only one using female avatars as a guy on this blog.
What I do not understand is why that comment is gay, that I dislike someone has nothing to do with being straight or being gay, come on, I say.
I also use the avatar of saber from fate stay night LOL and I'm not gay xD
Nor does anything happen if you are homosexual, I respect your inclinations.
I don't think a homophobic like me can be homosexual.
You must investigate the origin of this homophobia. Phobias are inappropriate for an enlightened young man like you.
Well, the truth is that I have not stopped to think why, but I say that it will be for something.
Well, you should reflect on it and find out where that rejection / fear of homosexuals comes from. It's irrational, like making fuss when a wasp approaches, in the end you only get them to notice you and get stung ...
I did not want to be the one to say it, how capable and I knock down the house of cards and "change someone's life" ha ha ha, but since they almost say it and that they insist a lot on the subject, I better say it.
Homophobia is usually repressed homosexuality.
I say "usually is" because it really is not in 100% of the cases, but it is really an overcompensation mechanism in the face of a complex with homosexuality.
So for example it could be a repressed homosexual (for whatever reason) who hides his condition by reinforcing his rejection of the idea, which is the most common case. Or to say another example, it could be a subject who has a certain complex to be seen as gay, weird, not very masculine, etc., then he reinforces his "masculinity" by being homophobic and thus there could be more cases that do not occur to me.
I assure you that I am straight, I already fell in love with one (ugly and disgusting, but aunt)
By the way, the second example is something that almost all of us have experienced, at least in a subtle way, more when one is a teenager. For example, a homosexual hardly passes for something (especially if it is crazy) then one reflexively begins to take more square postures and even speak more hoarse, ha ha ha. Well that's a more subtle reaction because the threat is subtle, but imagining a stronger case (like a childhood friend - or even a dad - turning homosexual) then the overcompensation can be more drastic, like become homophobic.
Being gay is unnatural
Ok, I don't doubt it (and I mean it, especially at your age) and unfortunately I sent the message in the middle.
But what is certain is that this type of thing has a cause and it can be a foolish cause and even alien to the person. Phobias and more of that kind have a reason.
(I say, speculating) Maybe you even became "homophobic" from the day they started to give you the pain in the ass all the time with that topic. Were you before that? (you should answer that for yourself).
And in the previous message it had to say «go through next to one's".
I think I have been forever
By the way you say it jrjéjeje is fuck okay? What if I would like to know is that ubuntu phobia?
What happens is that here in Venezuela only women say things like that that way, well it must be that I got lost in the translation
Is that if you put the accent that I'm imagining anything will sound gay and female xD.
PD: I heard that phrase here from everyone.
Things get wrong in writing.
The Ubuntu phobia is the fault of the Ubuntosos with their insults and fallacies, also the screenshots and the little noises that Ubuntu made me, which led me to abandon it and of course the actions of Uncle Mark, his «this is not a democracy 'and all that stuff
Well, it is better not to believe so much in the surveys, since they are done showing a part of reality. And to tell the truth, if we are hundreds, thousands or a few it does not matter; the important thing is to work as a team and improve at every step. I think that if GNU / Linux were to become widespread, it would lose that charm.
Although I do not feel that I am a better person than someone else for using a 100% free OS, but it is what I like, and I am happy to be able to contribute something.
Greetings.
Let's be serious, are we maqueros? As far as I know, the concept of free software is better than proprietary software and we want it to prevail. We shouldn't feel special and pray that the mob doesn't find out our secret.
Don't you feel sorry for those hooked on Windows? Hopefully the day will come when free software is imposed on its own merits and the FSF phrase “… move us closer to a free society” will cease to be a fantasy.
The data discussed here is irrelevant and has no statistical value but we cannot boast as if it were good news.
Today I feel like an evangelizer.
When I see boys and girls at my school - I study law - installing Linux on their own, and sometimes distros like Arch, without being encouraged, I wonder if these statistics are correct. In my school, users go up like foam, and yet we are still stuck at one percent, when here at least ten percent of the machines have a free distro.
Unfortunately I think that if you can, my lap has no way to make it work well with any distribution, I just need to try arch, gentoo and puppy.
The problem, video and wireless drivers, only works well with windows, anyway, when I get another lap I'll look for an intel, with Nvidia, since AMD with ati left me a bad experience, and I miss using Linux.
Sure, pure personal experience.
regards
Does it work with any distro? What hardware do you have?
It matters to those who live pending that this and that increases, I do not know if there are many, but they make a lot of noise.
Your point of view, although not unique, does not make noise and I do not know how abundant it is.
They do not count, the statistics refer to Desktop, not Servers.