It is my first article in DesdeLinux I have been a consistent reader of the blog since its inception and in its time of Let's use Linux. Always looking for readings to absorb knowledge in this very interesting and extraordinary world.
In this universe I have had ups and downs I have tried in my pilgrimage many distributions since Redhat, Debian, Mandriva, Mageia, Rosa Frehs, Opensuse, Chakra, Ubuntu and all its flavors.
As for the desktop environment from the largest as Kde, Gnome, Cinnamon, Unity and the lighter ones Xfce, Lxde, e17, fluxbox among others who escape. Being my favorite KDE It was always from my inception the favorite since its version 3.
Shirt since its departure I was drawn to this distro as it was KDE and it seemed to come with the best of the 64bits architecture all Qt of course the most usable of gtk as Firefox, Chrome y LibreOffice among others.
Of course I must give credit to what was done by Yoyo308 since he has been one of the promoters of this system, his experience has helped a lot to guide me through the parcel Pacman.
It had always been from the RPM parcel with Mageia 4 I'm still testing it but KaOS has given me a new flavor by always being up-to-date, not only has it allowed me to compile packages and install them, something that I had not achieved so easily on other systems that I would have tried.
His new image gives a freshness and vitality to the distro that has hooked me ...
With Shirt you will always be at the forefront in KDE for me the most complete desktop environment ... For these and many other reasons I recommend this distribution that although it is beginning it is taking good steps of what a distribution should be GNU / Linux.
Well ... everyone chooses who best marries ... And KaOS is a very good distribution, I tried it and I liked it but I uninstalled it a week later because it installs Google-Chrome and I prefer Chromium or SRWareIron; I removed all the Calligra because it is not compatible with what they send me from work, EVERYTHING comes to me in MSOffice (although I installed LibreOffice and it works fine); I couldn't install Flareget, youtube-dl, Hubic and Viber; I need Skype for my work and it does not install it, and Dropbox and Virtualbox did not work for me for more laps than I gave and tutorials that I read, so although it is very well worked it does not serve my needs, so I went back to Kubuntu and Netrunner.
It is my experience, but it does not mean that it is not a good distribution, depending on what you use it for.
You have to follow it in the forums, the chromium thing as its FAQ says, they don't include it because they don't want redundant applications (if you are a bit experienced you can compile it yourself or ask someone to upload the pkgbuilds to the KCP) the same with flareget and All the ones you mention (as long as they are not 32-bit) regarding skype, demm (the developer) as kaos does not provide 32-bit support, the solution is to virtualize an xp and run it from there (I really don't know what problem you have had with virtualbox so I would not know how to help you) and by dropbox, it seems to me that you had the bad luck to install it at a time when dropbox was wrong in several distros (because in different distros forums they commented the same thing) and a temporary solution (quite rare xD ) was to download it manually and execute the process in backgroud (&) and for some reason it was xD
Sorry, but I don't share your comment at all. If you want skype, why virtualize if any more or less large distro has the package? It doesn't make any sense, and so does chromium. I don't understand encouraging people to try a distro that doesn't meet their "must have" packages.
It is not my opinion, it is in the FAQ of the distro, and it has its reasons (I depend on other packages that are 32 bits, so I do not use it, luckily it is not Skype and I do not consider it a "must have") without However, the reasons that demm exposes in the FAQ are totally valid, for 10 years 64 bits have been present, it is time for those who make software to stop bullshitting http://kaosx.us/faq-es/#Por_qu_no_hay_aplicaciones_de_32_bits
It is maintained by a single person to KaOS and has to add between 150-200 more packages, just to have those 32-bit apps…. does not make much sense, so I insist KaOS does not seek to be for just anyone, but "for whoever fits the poncho"
If instead of browsing you went to the KaOS site you would understand why Skype or any other 32-bit application is never there or will be.
KaOS was born as a personal development of one of the main Chakra devs after problems with the team at the time when she decides to open up and put her vision into practice in a distro designed and directed by her.
From the beginning it was clear that the distro would be focused on a very, very select audience that would seek to meet all their needs: the IT clients of the distro developer, most of them owners of local businesses and small businesses.
The issue of packaging only 64-bit applications has to do with her experience and personal tastes, she is convinced that in 2014 it is a shame to continue using 32-bit apps on HW 64-bit when more than 10 years ago (2003) the HW we use today was introduced.
In any case the culprit is - when not! - Microsoft for following its rude policies and not doing what it should, in this case migrating Skype to 64-bits once and for all.
That said and in relation to your last paragraph, what is the problem that someone publishes an article like this telling why they like the distro they use so much and encouraging people to try it? It is a very human thing to want to share what we like.
IN FACT, the KaOS developer always made it very clear that she is not interested in forming a large community (and she says it EXPRESSLY on her site), or even reaching more users beyond those initially intended since her objective is quality about quantity.
We have talked several times about the subject when the distro was in its early stages and apart from giving her a hand in some issues that arose at the time, I myself encouraged her to make public her development of the distro while always clarifying that it was not going to be a distro for everyone but only for those who accept it as it is.
Before continuing to protest for free about something you do not know - and continue to be very ridiculous in that same act - I invite you again to read the why of the distro on its website and visit the irc channel of the distro.
I only know that the user is on top of everything and not by removing a program from a distro that we use 4 cats, microsoft is going to put the batteries.
In Kaos you will only find a package for 64-bit architecture, that is, applications that make use of 32-bit libraries will not be in KaOS
Dropbox 2.6 is in the repos and as for other programs you can ask the kaos community on Github, as for the 32bit there will not be ...
So it doesn't run comix? How would it read my manga? : c
why not run it?
Hello,
I have been relatively recently in this Linux, I have tried several distros and I chose opensuse among the ones that I tried mpues I think that is the one that KDE is best for me. The question is, what does KAOS have that Opensuse doesn't have?
Thanks and regards.
Well opensuse is one of the big ones for me it is a personal opinion Kaos is focused more on KDE = QT with 64-bit architecture some things that you can install in opensuse will not be the same in Kaos since it does not have anything 32bit and in kaos is roling release that is, Kaos will always have the first thing in the KDE environment than any other distribution ...
And therefore something more unstable than opensuse. No?
I do not know what you mean with instability Kaos has stable respos and repos to test KDE in itself it is a stable enotorno I think that at this point in GNU / Linux I am left behind in general all are stable now that there are some distros that offer better integration of their packages that's Kaos ...
Do you want the good KDE? http://www.ChakraOS.org
Since you used openSUCIO when testing Chakra you will not believe the speed, speed and beauty of the distro.
Dirty? What a poor comment.
Opensuse is a very serious distro, the work of so many people cannot be despised in that way.
I see that I will not leave doubts.
No, seriously OpenSUSE is fucking dirty. What is a large development? Of course, what is stable? Yes, too ... but it doesn't take away the dirt.
Suse is one of the dirtiest distros at the level of redundant packages, tell me your Why two package managers installed by default? YaST and I just left the other's name, the fucking mother that someone reminds me in a comment below, please.
There are too many unnecessary things in Suse that "come to meet" nobody's needs and that criticism comes from the users and the communities themselves.
packagekit + apper (since it doesn't resolve conflicts like YAST…. I don't really know what this is for ..)
So, for you dirty is putting two package managers by default? Amazing! And I'm not talking about Suse, I'm talking about opensuse, it's not the same. I'm still going to give Kaos a chance, but you still haven't told me that it adds value to opensuse or kubuntu.
Greetings.
OpenSUCIO? Hmm, she wants to sound like sarcasm, but it just remains a mere troll ...
More misspellings and semantic errors than popular newspaper.
AHAHAH, where is the +1 ???
I have used it from the beginning and it is ideal for stability and rollng-release. But due to the lack of 32bits libraries I have decided to go gentoo.
You miss out on a lot of good things like games
The word "stable" has stopped making sense within the Linux ecosystem, because the distro that is being promoted / used is ALWAYS stable and the tagline "has never given me any problems" is added. I have problems even with stable Debian and without using external packages, so I don't know, I must be the most unfortunate GNU / Linux user on earth ...
PS: Nothing against KaOS, which I have not tried, but a few months ago Manjaro was also given a lot of hype, I tried it and after installing Liferea it froze. And it was "stable" ...
Yes sir, there are already two of us, and it makes me very angry when for some reason I have to restart by force because they promised me stability, however I love gnu / linux and I will use it until I am old.
Linux is not perfect of that there is no doubt, nothing is perfect. But that even with Debian you have problems, and that it is not only Debian but several distros, you must have incompatible hardware or something in particular.
It is not a complaint to Linux, but to the stability comments, exaggerated in my view.
And it's not a hardware problem either: forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=110150. I think Debian is the best distro, but not the one that fails the least and the bugs I have reported so far have passed ... It's my distro, but things as they are.
I have wanted to try KaOS but I have a 32-bit pc, is there a way to make it work on computers with these characteristics ...? thanks.
Not just x86_64 architecture
what processor do you have? (If you are on Gnu / Linux you can find out by: cat / proc / cpuinfo | grep "model name" from the terminal)
lscpu
lscpu | grep "CPU op-mode (s):"
xD
Very good distro, but I could not install it with DUAL-BOOT for Windows 7 64b, apparently I needed to use the entire hard disk and for work reasons I cannot delete the partition for winbugs,
If it can be installed on my laptop, first install windows 8.1 64 bit and then Kaos and I had no problems, the grub recognized the windows partition without problems ... now uefi is another story ...
No steam? Nothing more to say, no matter how good it is, it will continue to be used by a very small group of users, which is not bad at all.
To taste colors, and in linux there are distros for each type of user.
They do a very good job with this distro, one more option with the powerful Pacman.
@aioria
Thanks for the mention 😉
Regarding Dropbox in KaOS, I'm tired of explaining it, worse people either don't listen to me or don't pay attention to me. There comes a time when you get tired of repeating it and give it up for lost. Maybe I'll post something on my blog.
Regarding 32 bits or rather, not 32 bits, it has already been explained a thousand times, I will not repeat it.
Before deciding on KaOS, read its FAQ, it is in Spanish, so you will know if KaOS is or is not the distro you are looking for…. do not go installing distros like crazy without any knowledge, then what happens happens.
PS: That someone is not able to install something in KaOS (or any other distro) does not mean that
PS: That someone is not able to install something in KaOS (or any other distro) does not mean that it cannot be done, the clumsiness and ignorance is free.
(before I accidentally hit enter without having finished my previous comment, hence I repeat this)
If the same question is repeated so much, must it be for something or not?
Yes, for the simple reason that people don't even read the push and pull signs on the doors. Everything you need to know is in English and Spanish on the distro page.
It is very beautiful, but it is still a kind of linux chakra, with a more or less small package base and with only one dev that puts the distro on its back. It smells like a SolusOS that pulls back to me.
Very good option, but 64bit only?
That would complicate things. I prefer to continue using ArchLinux, and give it a few taps and that's it 🙂
absolutely 😀
Don't forget that KaOS is canned and the only thing it 'shares' with Arch is pacman, not even the filesystem layout corresponds to Arch 😉
It's very good for me. Fast and efficient. Ideal replacement while Chakra is in a coma.
Who told you that Chakra is in a coma? Did you try Curie ??
Furthermore, KaOS can never be a replacement for Chakra. Just because they both use KDE and pacman do you think KaOS can replace Chakra? Wrong.
As much as the KaOS Git repo is an interesting option, it does not come close to the flexibility of CCR / AUR, the pure 64-bit - YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT IN CHAKRA, IN FACT CHAKRA OS IS INSTALLED ONLY 64-BITS AND KDE - you keep them in your pocket when you have to run Skype or Steam or any other app, not to mention if you need a Gtk app and you have to wait for them to give the go-ahead to add it or, like Chromium, they decide that the app you use and you prefer it is a redundancy and it will never be officially supported - the history of linux: living with the dirty meek fixing everything on your own.
Nah man ANYONE your comment, you are horribly informed.
@msx @ truko22 the «knights of the order of Chakra» (? xD jajajja
Chakra in a coma, you don't know what you're talking about 😀
I have tried it in a virtual machine and I liked it a lot, but honestly, having Arch Linux I don't see that it offers me anything but rather takes away my possibilities. Of course, the installation is much easier. On the other hand, I love the artwork so I have it on my machines (both on Kubuntu and Arch Linux).
Beyond the personal opinion of the distribution, which I have not tried, I see one thing clear: this developer has things very clear. And for me it responds to the correct concept of creating a distribution. I mean, why go to incredible lengths to maintain 32-bit packets? Why look for a higher quota of users? The flexibility of Linux allows projects like this to emerge and is one of the things that derives from free software: modification according to the user.
As he well argues, using 32-bit applications when it has been more than 10 years with hardware capable of supporting 64 bits is a crime. Furthermore, a GNU / Linux distribution does not have to be aimed at attracting users or pleasing them all. It is a set of tools that we personally find useful. If she decides to create this for fun or because it is her way of seeing a distribution, it is welcome. Besides that I find it a very remarkable feat to maintain a distribution by yourself.
My respects to demm. And greetings to all!
Excellent comment. I fully adhere to it. Without installing it, you have understood better what it is about than many of those who have installed it.
finally, excellent comment, you couldn't have described it better
[that's allowed me to compile packages "and" install them. ]
The correct thing to do is "and install them."
Thanks for the correction… and for commenting.
Sorry for the question, I have been using Xubuntu for a long time and since I have a few months free I can change distribution, this has caught my attention, I only have a requirement, someone has installed a haskell development environment in this distribution? I must be sure since my work depends on this ...
Laburás in Haskell !? Groxo, I never met a real human who programmed in that alien language!
1. About the distro: if you have time to try it, go ahead. Check first if it packages the Haskell compiler, I think so.
2. Do you dare to write an article telling about the language and your personal experience? I read a lot about it but I still haven't tried anything ...
Well, to be rolling to the last, it has been since the 20th without updating.
Dirty? What a poor comment.
Opensuse is a very serious distro, the work of so many people cannot be despised in that way.
I see that I will not leave doubts.
Give up the champion hemlock, there are better things for breakfast !!
I don't know how long you've been with Linux, but those of us who have been breaking our balls for a long time have nicknames for all tastes: Lesbian, openSUCIO, Pedorra, RedRat, Garch (Argentine slang = garcha), openPodrida, Gentooza, Ubuntu (muajeje) ...
The one that has been saved is Slack, until now, that I know, nobody found him a nickname 😀
there you go one fresh from the oven
Slack = Escrap or Scrap
XD
Jotted down 😀
I saw it, I tried it, cinema roller in the new i5 with HD4600 graphics, everything ok from the pull. Very nice and very good, a cannon, the i5 with SSD and 15Gb RAM also helps of course. Then I saw the 64bit thing, Spotify ... steam ... I read, I understood. OKAY. No problemo. It doesn't fit my profile. And that's it.
What a mania with that: "the best distro is the one I use" OpenSucio?
Shame, because I was trying to catch the air to KDE that I have never been able to, and it was very nice in KaOS.
Hello,
Where can you download kaos kdm theme?
Thank you.
I tried it trying to go back to KDE, because my experiences with Kubuntu, Fedora, etc .. did not convince me (it should be noted that I do not test in a virtual machine, I do it by installing in a partition dedicated to this on my pc) and it really surprised me a lot this distribution! It's fast… very fast! It has the latest, and the selection of software is the best, little compared to others, but yes! Very good quality! I had already gotten used to gnome, since KDE3, but it seems to me that I am going to go back to KDE, precisely to Kaos. I totally recommend it.
I feel that this distro is experimenting with users, it limits me a lot in my needs, why does a linux distribution have to limit me with applications that only the developer of this distro likes? where linux freedom remains it is somewhat contradictory that a distribution limits me, I already cure myself of dystroitis from my own experience I recommend TANGLU a German distro as young as kaOS that comes in both KDE 4.11.5 and GNOME 3.10.1 in state Pure with kernel 3.12.1, in my case I still can't find a bug that affects my system, even though this distro almost always has the latest updates in its repositories, if you want TANGLU to look like kaOS just download the KDE version and change the wallpaper, greetings.
Anke had the freedom to create the distro and add whatever she wanted. You have the freedom to use it or not. The fact of being OpenSource or Free Software does not oblige her to add what you want or you to use its distribution. It's that simple 😀
My BOLUDOMETER
just exploded with this comment.
I should go to the GUINESS ...
I have tried it and I would say that it is the KDE Elementary, very beautiful, but somewhat closed in on itself ... I don't think it is a mere adventure.
I greet everyone. With the respect that we all deserve and deserve, I want to ask the following:
* Why is it that most advanced users of GNU / Linux are so smug, annoying and offensive?
* Do you think that this aptitude motivates newbies to try GNU / linux?
* Because of people like that, many of us don't take risks with GNU / Linux; Well, reading forums we see the way in which some, with the pretense of wise men, treat us.
* You just have to look, as an example, at the last paragraph of the msx comment: «… Before you continue to protest for free about something you don't know - and keep looking very ridiculous in that same act - I invite you again to read the why of the distro on their website and visit the distro's irc channel. »
Nowhere are there rules of courtesy, excuse me for telling you, it's not for being hostile.
But that is not a "bad linux" go to any other community and you will find the same problems ... it is not for being an "advanced user", it is the personality of each person, what you say seems silly to me, bro.
Pff, I had not seen your comment, but I did not spend ...
They believe gods because they are in the group of the so-called "advanced."
Next to you and in this matter in leaving, I am, know it.
Your problem is, you could be too if you didn't choose to be a crybaby - and mediocre.
1st .: «all and all» is a redundancy and LANGUAGE HORROR. Whether you like it or not in Spanish "all" includes "all", due to the very conformation of the language in its plurality, it is masculine. Other languages like English tend to be more generic and others like Finnish do not even have genders and therefore articles that name them.
Therefore "everyone" is not "comprehensive", it is an idiomatic barbarity, not even illiterate people speak like that.
2nd. "Why is it that most advanced GNU / Linux users are so smug, annoying and offensive?"
This is real life, not some romantic weekday afternoon fantasy.
Therefore, each person has their own personality, some are of one way and others of others, some may have a bad day and others a bad life.
Whether you work in an office, in a mechanical workshop or in a learned academy, you will find these same characteristics. In fact: you have no idea what a British boarding school is, do you?
There the pussy does not survive 5 minutes 😀
Do not be pussy, take what serves you, I appreciated the rest and move on.
"Do you think that with this aptitude you motivate newbies to try GNU / linux?"
Let's see: I don't think anyone forces you to use linux, oka?
For me, pay for the license of an insecure OS, proven that it brings spyware, that crashes, which has a tedious, closed and inauditable update cycle, rigid - in the sense that it does not allow to configure it and use it as you intend - and of course infinitely superior to the GNU / Linux standard.
When someone organizes events or accounts about Linux it is to spread awareness, that others, who are not part of the computing environment, find out how the hand really comes. But let's see: nobody benefits from whether or not you use Linux, the beneficiary is only you. The rest, we will continue to use it, whether you use it or not. Therefore this is not a sect, like religions - anyone -, nobody wants to 'convert' you, if someone tells you about Linux it is because they consider that they can do you a favor, not him or herself.
I still have a hard time understanding when people come up with this kind of stupid and pointless reasoning, totally weird ird
«* Because of people like that, is that many of us do not take risks with GNU / Linux; Well, reading forums we see the way in which some, with the pretense of wise men, treat us. "
Of course, before it was the same with DOS, with Windows and with almost any other human activity: playing football, doing karate, learning to ice skating, surfing, carpentry, writing a story, whatever you want.
Again, you are not a little girl to go crying over the vast confines of the web. Do you want to learn to dance tango / salsa / swing / whatever and they spend you for a trunk? Here it is the same. Don't be a fucking pussy.
«You just have to look, as an example, at the last paragraph of the msx comment:“… Before continuing to protest for free about something you do not know - and continue being very ridiculous in that same act - I invite you again to read the why of the distro on their website and visit the distro's irc channel. ”»
Of course Corso Gómez, and my reasons I have, to begin with, girls like you who ask for everything digested and chewed.
LET'S SEE, THE KNOWLEDGE IN GNU / LINUX IS FREE AND FREE: THE ONLY THING THAT IS MISSING IS TO HAVE THE WILL TO LEARN, NOT BE A COMFORTABLE FAT ASS AND WANT EVERYTHING CHEWED.
F / LOSS projects are carried out by people each with their own interests and needs. CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO USE ANY OF THEM, BECAUSE IF IT WOULD BE FOR YOU, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO LEARN TO PROGRAM. Therefore, before you 'complain' about something, thank him; Then I learned how that works, which is why you complain and finally investigate how to improve it based on logical and technical arguments, not 'what you think', because 'the opinion' of those who do not know a bit about what they are talking about is NOT WORTH NOTHING.
Again, the web _ is not like real life_, IT IS REAL LIFE, here you will find the same thing that you can find in any other human activity with the difference that here people tend to be less or not at all hypocritical and have zero tolerance for mediocre people.
Nobody is born knowing and when someone has a true vocation to learn we are all here to help them, in fact the web will seem like a wonderful place wherever they go because most computer scientists, whether or not we have academic training, have scientific minds, curious and self-taught, so finding someone similar to us we love.
What if nobody tolerates on the web, especially those who know the most, is the stupid "I have the right to ... X". No, you only have the right to shut your mouth. The information is out there, go, look for it, learn and ONLY when you find a show-stopper do I return.
But do as it is traditionally done with Windows: pay for a course, a teacher and let me teach you. And protest everything you want to him / her and that you pay him / her - or whatever their patience can hold.
As a corollary:
"You are not a wonderful, perfect snowflake." - Chuck Paleniuk
«You are special only for your mother, for the rest of us you are special… in another way.» - famous quote on 4chan / Reddit / Slashdot
And this simply great quote from the brilliant Stephen Fry, very much in keeping with the pussies and mediocre times we live in: http://i.imgur.com/TXujeoV.jpg
Errata (there are a couple of errors but the meaning is understood, this is the only important one):
"BECAUSE IF IT WOULD BE FOR YOU, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO LEARN TO PROGRAM"
* IF IT WERE, IT WAS
In my country people are becoming more and more brutal, even in the media you can hear people who call themselves 'journalists' who speak like that, a shame ... And well, I can't believe that it has hit me, a horror 😛
Ha, don't make me laugh: now it turns out that you want to teach us about the Spanish language. Only that was missing from this petulant ... hahahahaha.
I'm illustrating you, fat. And yes, I know what I'm talking about, "How badly most people speak and express themselves" was one of our many talks I had with an ex-girlfriend prof. of letters.
But hey, instead of taking what works for you and learning - and apprehending something - you prefer to make a fool of yourself.
Typical of mediocre.
I've been with KaOS for a few months now and it's a distro that makes me really happy.
I have learned a lot, and it has a luxurious community ...
KaOs really has a great future, however I cannot understand when he jumped from his main desk to another blue one, it is as if this was a recovery mode that I do not understand, another point is that it is not easy to jump from KaOs to Archlinux such as Artergos or Parabola, which do not give a problem if you want to migrate to Arch that alternative should be more present in KaOs. On the other hand, Caligra really needs to be more flexible and accept openofice and Word formats is very limited. I appreciate if someone can help me to know what is happening, from one moment to another the desktop appeared to me with a blue appearance which does not bother me but I really do not understand why.
Anke has done a good job, as always. To try it.