It seems that a more than profound change in the evolution of SolusOS, the popular distribution based on Debian. The topic was proposed a few days ago by our friend Yoyo Fernandez, founder of the blog Pardus Life, Ikey doherty, Founder of SolusOS, riding a this Google+ post, and he in turn shared the idea later on the SolusOS forum.
Apparently, Ikey is starting to get fed up with developing his distro on Debian due to the work involved in its maintenance, especially in the patched and cleaning packages GNOME3 who break into repositories and threaten to break the desktop of SolusOS, for what you have considered stop developing SolusOS 2 (currently in alpha 5 stage) on top of Debian to rebuild it from scratch, with its own independent repositories, and using the package management system of Pardus, PiSi (what does it mean Packages Installed Successfully as Intended).
The reasons that Ikey explained in the forum for using the package of Pardus are the following:
Delta Packages
Best known for its implementation in distros RPM as Fedora y OpenSUSE, Delta technology allows only the parts of packages that have been modified to be downloaded during an update, so the download size is much smaller. Ikey puts for example that a 741 MB update would be reduced to just 70 MB, with the consequent saving in time and bandwidth that would take not only the user of SolusOS update your system, but at the same Ikey upload the update to the repositories. The .pisi packages are also compatible with Delta technology.
LTS
By not worrying about maintenance periods of Debian nor of the updates of this that can break the desktop, Ikey assures that «You could easily create a Solus OS 2 LTS with 5 years of support ».
ISO size
Since .pisi packages use XZ compression, the ISO of Solus OS 2, which currently weighs in at almost 1GB, would shrink so much that it would fit comfortably on a CD.
Patched
The patching of packages with the modifications of SolusOS It would be easier because being a mother distro, only the packages that they choose would be uploaded to the repositories, without having to monitor the ones they send Debian.
¿Fork or derivative?
Ikey clarifies that, although they would be using the package management system of Pardus and its installer (YALI), the system would not be based on Pardus rather it would be a project started from scratch.
Workload
One of the benefits of the PiSi package is the ease it provides for building packages. Ikey admits that, of course, building the system and provisioning the repositories would require a good investment of time, but ensures that a SolusOS based on PiSi would take less effort than one based on Debian. He adds that, for example, he began to experiment with the construction of a GNOME on PiSi from scratch and managed to advance a quarter in 2 hours. In addition, an application would be developed to create .pisi packages from tarballs In a simple way.
So there is the proposal. It is paradoxical to see how the same Pardus recently abandoned its own base to move on to develop on Debian Testing, while a distribution previously based on Debian It also changes its course to take a similar one to the old one Pardus. From the blackboard and from my point of view it is an interesting idea, although the main problem I see is that the number of available packages will drop drastically when using your own repositories instead of Debian ones, and it will take an extra effort to keep all those thousands of packages constantly updated and tested; although there is probably compatibility with the repositories of Pardus (which aren't especially big either). We will have to see how everything turns out once it is put into practice
By the way, today Ikey contacted the developers of Pardus Anka, fork de Pardus which maintains its original base, to propose a cooperative development of some aspects common to both distros such as the package manager, the installer and the tools for the construction and maintenance of the repositories; so everything indicates that the idea is already more than accomplished and Solus OS 2 will mark the beginning of a new stage in the hitherto short history of SolusOS.
Sources | Google+, SolusOS Forum, deb Linux
Debian sucks, yeah.
Now why Pardus? A distro like the one he's looking for would _perfectly_ fit Fedora as a base.
Ehm… nope, Debian doesn't sucks, in any case the SolusOS ones don't have NPI of what they want and / or need.
HAHAHAHA, who saw you now defending Debian, although you threw everything when you were archer. 😀
You are the most bipolar FanBoy that exists, you do not have the right to voice xD
HA HA HA HA HA HA
HAHAHAHA all because before I used Arch and now Debian? ah come on don't be exaggerated haha
Because before you almost had sex with arch and now, you blatantly love Debian and defend it just the same xd
JAJAJAJAJAJA seen from that point of view ... well, let me explain hehe.
Arch is that 90-60-90 girl… perfect body, perfect face, but her behavior is a bit unstable, that is, today she is fine .. but tomorrow, tomorrow she wants to kick you out.
Debian is that girl who is not perfect, she is simple and normal, but you can come to love easily, even knowing her shortcomings.
Better explained impossible.
Debian stable is like a 40 year old girl and soda xd
HAHAHAHAHAHA, motherfucker dwarf, I almost choked when I read that, HAHAHAHAHAHA.
But yes, to Gaara He was close to marrying Arch, until he spat in his face and ended up taking refuge with the one he always despised. xD
Well what can I tell you hahahaha ... I ended up liking Debian, with its virtues and defects LOL!
Debian isn't bad, but it's not for general purposes either, and that's the problem; everyone wants to use it for everything.
Fedora ... I wouldn't even base myself on Fedora. Not because it's bad but because it's Red Hat's playground, so they go and test everything there to see how it works and then they put it in REHL.
And they continue with "why pardus" ... understand that it is not based on Pardus, it only takes its installer and its package system; but not its packages, dependencies, bases or philosophies.
I do not recommend fedora [it is commercial redhat testing] that is, it serves as a guinea pig to test everything and then pass it to commercial redhat or in other words, fedora is the eternal beta of redhat. Looking for the latest in trial software - its support is always limited, very limited…. [short time] for me that of installing a new version every 6 or 9 months [I don't remember the upgrade time well] I don't like it… .but it's like that… .short time …… it has something good, yes: i constant innovation but it's still a redhat foreber "test" ...
Excuse me friend, and I don't want you to take it the wrong way…. but ... I think you need one of these
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AjTpIoDFrTY/TBu7iqB28BI/AAAAAAAAAbE/m2I5JXmyDOQ/s1600/diccionario.jpg
Hey come on, I'm not Cervantes savedra, nor do I want to look like him… besides, I'm not Spanish…. I am «American citizen ok?
Hmm, well if you put it that way it's a great idea 🙂 I love delta packages!
I love this about SolusOS when it's Pi If I'm going to try it, to debit this Debian !!! hehe
Very interesting, and although we will have to see how this experiment turns out, I think it is a step forward. Innovation is always good.
Well, for me he has soon tired and begins to rave.
I think the same. It shows that they are looking for new directions and they are just beginning. I'm going to laugh out loud when this «super distro» no longer exists
Well, I come out good or bad, it is a total lack of respect to discredit the work of people who put all their effort to make things come out. If the distro ceased to exist, it is not exactly a reason to scoff.
As it is. The situation is difficult enough for Free Software in general, having to fight with private heavyweights who invest millions in maintaining their monopolies so that among those of us who understand the value of some freedoms we do not help each other as much as possible.
Hopefully everything goes well and better and better both for SolusOS and for all other distros. The more variety, the better (and I am saying this right now that I am installing different distros for different users and I am not delighted (!) At the amount of free options that I can use according to the needs of each person, this is life! 😀)
If I remember correctly, Pardus used KDE as the default desktop. So now you are going to switch from a Debian base (due to problems with the GNOME packages), to a Pardus base (which I don't think GNOME used).
Where are you going to get the code? If Pardus didn't have it, it either rewrites all of GNOME from scratch, or it uses the code provided by GNOME to make the changes.
If it's based on the GNOME code, what difference does it make to do it from Debian? Because Debian distributes GNOME, KDE, XFCE ... with hardly any modification (unlike Ubuntu or Mint, which have their own shells).
I suppose there will be a logic that Ikey Doherty knows and I don't… but from the beginning (leaving aside the deltas issue), I don't see where the effort savings are.
It is not easier to leave it as is and rely on XFCE
and then Tuning it to look like Gnome 2?
Ikey had said something on Google+ that he doesn't like .deb packages himself, but I couldn't find the post where he explained his reasons.
If Debian modifies the packages, I think they are pretty patched. A distro that hardly modifies anything is archlinux for ex.
Let's see, in order:
In short, yes, there is logic and savings to some extent in what Ikey intends.
I was precisely going to comment, since one of the fundamental reasons is the support of Delta packages, and as has been said about the fall in the number of available packages, why not rely on RPM, build it from scratch but with packages RPM… I don't know if Doherty has already contemplated this possibility or not.
if it makes that change, if it would try that distro.
The truth is that I never tried Pardus since when I became interested in it was when I read that it was "in the doldrums" (so to speak).
Every time I want to try SolusOS 2 more and more, although I almost always used a distro derived from Debian, I would love to test the direction that Solus will take in the future, and more if Ikey is more comfortable working there.
I know, I was one of the first to find out about that news thanks to G + 🙂
I thought the appeal of this distro was being debian stable + some stable packages and gnome 2. Will it now be able to stay as a parent distro? It seems like too risky a move to me.
debian stable + some NEW packages
In fact, with the community it has, which is quite committed, and with the necessary arrangements, it can and will also become one of the "main distros" if it continues as it goes.
Debian Testing + some new packages
The idea is very interesting and novel, it will be worth trying the new SolusOS, and more with the confidence that Ikey gives me from the start with the stability of SolusOS base debian. It must be recognized that it works very well.
The only thing that worries me a little is that SolusOS follows a clear line, whatever it may be, and that we do not stumble.
Thank goodness I never downloaded this distro. They don't even have a definite heading.
Right on target …
In fact, they try to define their own path ... be based on another distro and also have to be tied to changes in it ... well, that is if it means having no direction.
Making your own moves is another story.
you're absolutely right, and for the record, I love SolusOS and Ikey's work. I am one of those who will use the new SolusOS.
Only this change of course surprises me a lot, once the reasons have been explained it has its logic, but it has surprised me,
Well, as I see it, they already had their own path ... and they were doing quite well.
I admit that this news has slowed me down a bit until everything is more defined.
Well, it seems like a great idea to me ... if they carry it out of course. To me, the base had to push me back more and more ...
Everything that I was going to explain and say was said by my friend @nano
So I will only subscribe to your comments, adding more on my part would be to redound to the same thing.
the truth pisi and pardus did not see in any soft download page such as netbeans, skype and many others that normally do not come in the repos.
they should have a great repo
for me it is a counter and it will be a blocker in the long run
Well, it is not a decision to my liking, I am a Debian lover and I loved the idea of having an easy-to-use distro that had debian as a base, but if it continues in that direction, then wish ikey luck and I will not use it again.
Well, here there is a lot of fabric to cut, I think the best thing is that I dedicate myself to reading the thread in the SolusOS forum and seeing each consideration and then making a more complete article.
What's more, then I get in touch with Yoyo and see what I can do.
All this is crazy. He leaves LMDE to do something similar on his own and then there is talk of making a mother distro with PiSi and YALI. When they go to KDE with BE :: Shell it will be a genius (someone passed the idea to Ikey).
I don't know, it seems like a somewhat crazy idea to start a distro from 0 and more having a not very large user base.
Great note !! I tried SoluOS 1.2 and I liked it, but I realized what Ikey mentioned, that the Debian repo broke the system, which I saw with other right-handers like LMDE, as well as Jolicloud and bodhi with Ubuntu. Creating an independent right-hander is clear that it will be a lot of work, and that at first you will see the lack of packages, hence we miss DEBs or RPMs. But as Ikey says it would be easier to maintain its stability, to give support and the implementations of "Delta" and "XZ" packages, it is worth taking a risk, since if the mainstream people are looking for DEBs, there are Debian, PinguyOS, LinuxMint , Ubuntu and ALL those that are based on Debian and Ubuntu. Putting a new proposal to work seems like a good option to me, but now it has a community that follows it, supports it or, at best, is interested in knowing what is happening with the world of SolusOS.
Maybe what people can see is the lack of objectives, but suppose that Ikey, as a developer, has found limitations in his work due to the fact of working under Debian packages (and yes, the truth is that I will miss them too) , not only for having to develop SolusOS, but also for having to be running around and patching its updates. A very difficult job.
I will really follow SolusOS, and it seems great to me that I will obviously try it when it is available. My problem will be that now how do I choose a right-handed one, Mageia or SolusOS 2 or PinguyOS ??? … I will have no choice but to save and buy a new PC and install all 3
XD !!
And isn't it easier to rely on Arch packages and use Pacman?
If SolusOS were based on Arch packages uffffffffffff triumphs
I would not do it, there is already competition, it would be to be another one and that's what Manjaro is for.
Not necessarily, I think that soluOS would be more like chakra.
I was just going to comment on something like that.
We see, I have SolusOS on my desktop basically because it was based on Debian Stable, and so my family was not going to get tangled up because things stopped working after an update.
When in SolusOS2 they do the change, I really don't know what to do… debian stable doesn't change almost anything over time, apart from some backports out there.
With a new package, in addition to a very great effort on the part of Ikey to maintain the essential things, the day I want a package, I could almost compile it myself, and if it looks good and there are no problems, share it with others from the official repo ... but isn't that what Arch does? (which also use XZ to compress packets).
PS: If someone could make me this clarification I would be grateful: In debian there was no longer a 'deltas' system?, Because that was what I understood.
http://debdelta.debian.net/
is distro.
as for the distro, better Mageia.
umm I do not understand what is attractive mageia…. I tested it down and I was not impressed at all… ..I have tried better…. and I have more than 80 versions downloaded to all types of desktop….
yes, 80 versions, but derived from ubuntu 😛
Who says they are all derived from Ubuntu? Are you here to see it? I have a wide spectrum of versions I can say that all the Mother and derived distributions and that is a selection of the best. Don't speak without knowing. I even have OS that are not from the Linux branch, they are other apart… ..
Well, as I see it, it is a bit of the path that SolusOS would take, it would start from scratch, with its own community participating and it is obvious that just a few years from the beginning it still lacks a lot of development, but on my PC after testing several distros, the one that works faster n it is mageia, maybe a different right-hander works better on other PCs, but obviously, you have to try,
I have not tried more than 18 right-handers, of which several were derived from Debian, but as of today I am comfortable with Mageia
what mageia do you use? download version1 and 2 gnome or do you use kde? I do not know kde I never liked it seems childish ... the appearance ...
How about Orion !! Well, let me see, together now I use Mageia 2, I downloaded the version with Gnome, but in the end I also ended up installing "Enlightenment", "KDE", "OpenBOX" from the repositories. KDE is great in Mageia (from my point of view), I compare it to Debian KDE and excuse me a bit, but it is not as heavy as in Debian.
Now from there to say that KDE "is childish", well because you know that later there are people who take it very seriously and you can put together a new "holy war" for something like that, but look at that to me. same. Well, I think that KDE is today one of the most customizable desktops and designed for the end user. Possibly a Newbi under KDE would never have to open a terminal, and that has always been my point: «A standard user, be for example a doctor, lawyer, architect, teacher, or guys who only see their PC as« a treat to do the tasks, check FB, chat, download music, watch videos ", or a person who is not a big fan of PCs, does not have to open a terminal in his life or configure his desktop from the" conf.xml "file (example) .
I believe that the desktop you choose depends on the time you want to invest in configuring it, and you can leave it as you like. To my KDE visually it seems the best! But for performance reasons I often opt for Enlightenment (In constant development, with its EFL library proposal, light and for my taste with some new things), OpenBOX (well, you can configure it from scratch), and Gnome with its shell , because unity is very nice, but it is very heavy.
I hope to help you with something and not have strayed too much
WTF ?! Children's KDE ... probably the most absurd comment I've read in recent times ...
Distros based on distros is useless, long live independence !!! for example Frugalware uses pacman and nothing to do with arch and it is a fantastic distro, I think many distros should do what SolusOS is doing, to use a debian based distro I use Debian and that's it !!!
+1
+2!!
I had seen the name of Frugalware, but I had not investigated anything, but since you mentioned it I will investigate a little about it, it sounds interesting ...
SolusOS, it was my "Debian"; but now it will be My Distro ..
I like this distribution, I liked it as Debian Based, and I think it has a Future as a Future Mother Distro ..
Hail Ikey !!
Well friends… I don't know if it will be because of his youth or personal aspects, or because he really wants to do something great…. It would be speculating that it was so. I mean our friend Ikey. It may be that in the course of so much work with debian it overvalued many aspects that we do not know. The one in the hot pot knows what to cook! Says a saying ... Debian will have his strengths ... but like everything else, weak ones too ... and it is likely that the way he wants to take his ikey project, on the way he realized that with debian despite its virtues it is not the best choice. Although it is going to another course that "apparently" promises more possibilities - what we talk about above being an independent distro - is a risk - because it can be a calculated risk - I have changed course in my life when I evaluate the circumstances and give myself Note that there are other better alternatives - excuse me if I'm philosophizing - but this is presented in practically all aspects of life as you can see. I shoot ropes at some stages of my life that although risky were successful, others were not. This is like Russian roulette. but all development and growth to better things always involves risks ... and only the brave dare to confront those risks. What worries me as a participant mentioned above is that the project definitely takes a defined course. With its defects and virtues [with which we, the community that supports salus, will work - but that clear, precise and firm definition; It is necessary for us to follow the path you want to trace - to give you the support you need. Do not feel in limbo. And above all use the distro and get the most out of it. I sincerely hope that this new direction is successful and successful. Greetings friends
The truth is that as a Debian-based distro I didn't see much purpose in SolusOS, because it seemed to me that its only contribution was to insist on reviving a desktop that can be perfectly replaced by other alternatives such as Xfce or LXDE. Also, as already said, to use a Debian based distro, better to use Debian, I think.
The idea of a new mother distro emerging, on the other hand, pleases me, for being a brave decision. It will be a titanic job, yes, but if it works, it seems to me that it will be a great contribution to the GNU / Linux community, even if I am still in my beloved Debian.
To say that basing one distro on another is a vain act without first considering the particular motives and purposes that lead to doing so is a very obfuscated and reductionist vision of the panorama of possibilities that free software offers for the types of users and developers, for not To say also that it seems like a rather presumptuous position.
Whether or not Solus is based on another distribution is good or bad only depending on the product that it seeks to offer, the philosophy it seeks to maintain and the personnel capable of supporting it.
question ... Ikey is clear on WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR? or WHAT DO YOU WANT?
Because it started with debian, now it seeks to change packages ...
do you know where to point?
That same question haunts me ...
It would be interesting to ask him. Does anyone know or know how to ask the question ???
You can communicate with him by Google+, or use the contact form on the SolusOS site. You can even put your ideas up for discussion on the SolusOS forum.
For me, the chabon saw the acceptance of the distro and saw how to improve it.
I think he has a clear direction.
in theory all the changes that would come sound good.
Well, you can ramble on about Ikey's reasons for changing course. But in my opinion the community has enough participating members to receive suggestions, support and grow. I think it is a new stage. If solusoS liked and impressed a lot of people, it is likely that the new course is much more promising because as he says it leaves you a greater freedom to do other things that Debian now cannot. Thinking like crazy when I see an alternative that promises if I put my hand ... even if there is risk ... and I imagine that there are good points for the plan you have ... no one launches into adventures that he has not considered before and for the work he has done with solus is seen to have a baby to make it work. Let's give it the opportunity and support.
And also let's not forget that if Ikey manages to work alongside Pardus Anka, to have something like a common repository, SolusOS would not be alone, and that although each one has a different path they can share and solve some problems together, well I believe It doesn't start out as "Zero" as we might think.
Come on Ikey !! Cheer up !!
I have read all the comments and this time I will give mine more fully.
First: The ideas and the new project are interesting to me, especially because of what they have already explained about Delta package management and so on. It's cool, and hopefully Debian will adopt something like that by default, though I doubt it. So far, I agree with the project itself.
But let's keep something in mind as well. If many users have switched to SolusOSIt is because of the distribution that it is based on and the facilities / appearance that Ikey has managed to provide. Maybe a change like this can cause the mass exodus of many of its users, or it may not. It is a risk that must be taken.
I repeat, the idea is great and I wish Ikey the best of luck in achieving his goal, but trust me, I have my doubts about it. Doing something from scratch takes a lot of time, effort, developers, and all that to make the final product of quality.
Second: Can someone explain to me that it is wrong to make a distribution that uses another as a base? Because as I see it, more than a problem it is an advantage to get feedback from the work of other developers. The main problem with Ikey, it seems to me that it is simply that it is working alone and of course, there is no support that works that way when compared to the rate of updates of Debian (And that we all know is not the fastest we say).
Let time be who tells us what to expect SolusOS.
I am of the idea that this change will cause the "exodus" that you mention. There are many independent distros, and few are as popular as SolusOS is getting. What catapulted the distro was that it was based on Debian Stable, once that part is removed, it becomes one more distro than there are already ...
But as you say, you have to give time ^^ U
"It seems to me that it is simply that he is working alone" I quote; Well, I just saw on the site solus that another project will work in collaboration with anka and according to Ikey there are other collaborators involved .. I hope so. On the other hand - if there are disadvantages of working on the basis of another distro, that is, all the limitations that its developers have not been able to solve, their approach [very important] and their final objective, so whoever adopts a base [from another distro] he ends up working even more than developing his own in many ways .. instead having the freedom to build his own although it must be a lot of work if he has casting »as he says» you can make the ideal distro without being tied to the original and all its defects. That you can save work in many ways based on another yes. But maybe in casting it only "grabs" those good things that interest and not the complete base to later have to patch. Modifying etc ... etc ... I say I am not an expert in Linux but in a certain way what he proposes makes sense. In my years at university I had the opportunity to develop a semi-artificial intelligence software [the bastard mother of the project] the professor He was lazy - he left the job to us almost without [him] helping us… Starting from scratch…. It took me 6 months and almost a heart attack to be able to get that software out in a functional way. Busy. Of course it is not linux it was something different, but in the end it left the professor with his mouth open. Everything good requires sacrifice. We'll see what happens….
Waoo I even bought a netbook [a few days ago] to install solus 2. The news fell to me like cold water. Because then if I install the current solus eveline all the work will go into the development of this new version starting from 0 and as the work would be colossal I doubt that the current version will give it much attention and support. That leaves me with a bland taste ... coffee without sugar. I'll have to wait. See what happens. But starting from "0" I imagine it would take months to get a reliable "stable" version. Well ... I really think that the work in solus has gone well. So far.
If this new plan is better [hopefully so] then it has my backing. Although we will have to wait and evaluate as we go. I will keep up to date. Greetings Linux friends!
Hello friends .. well, if I were Ikey and I want to base my distro on something solid and stable Linux, I would choose Centos = redhat for free. focused on the Redhat version but free. A clone of the considered most solid Distro on the commercial Linux market .. Its maintenance is said to be 7 years. What more support than that? It would be formidable, that is install and forget for a long time to reinstall a new version. With the pedigree of redhat (Centos). The Mercedes Benz of Linux.
note: Centos is a 100% free redhat clone
Of course, forget about using the most recent versions of the packages ...
Well, they had to do something very good in Pardus because now it is SolusOS that will use their PiSi packages, but before it was Chakra (my usual distro) that adapted Kapudan, its post installation configurator
Too bad this distro didn't go ahead.
As for the passage of Ikey, it is good to seek new horizons, but perhaps it has been precipitated because his current project is not mature enough yet, and it sounds like a too sudden change that his followers will not fully understand, it seems to me. me.
Good point, but you don't necessarily have to lose most of the users who were interested in the project. I will follow this because in my opinion the developer weighs more than the distro used. In other words, the fever is not in the savannah. If Ikey guarantees what attracted so many users to solus as it is - the stability - the graphic environment - etc ... and adds functional and user-friendly elements to this new distro, because in my opinion solus 2 may be the distro that uploads the project to the top. Of course this is an assumption. But I am positive, I think it can indeed be that way. Seeing what he did with the solus eveline, a greater takeoff can be projected if he manages to do all this New that is proposed. Shout out to all linux enthusiasts like me!
I stick with debian because I can install thousands of packages and it has stability.
Ultimately, the success of SolusOs is due to its base having to be modified with the precise changes required by the users. The same thing that ubuntu did in its time.
Ubunto? If you have made great contributions - but the fact of being a canonical «private» part - in the long term it is not known what the future holds. One good day Canoncal decides to make radical changes and even make many OS functionalities exclusive and nobody can tell you - don't do it - or even close the project, sell it etc…. Everything is possible That is why I am not looking for distro based on ubuntu. And even less ubuntu itself. Despite being the most used and its derivatives. I do not see bad that a Linux project is partly proprietary as long as it is the free community that rules the last word - Canonical would not allow that.
Rafi parts because you're talking and apparently you don't know too much about what you're saying.
Make radical changes, you already made them, it's called Unity, that's the only thing you can be right about.
Close Ubuntu code? Impossible, the kernel licenses and almost everything that makes the distro work will not allow it.
Close your applications and your environment? It would be idiotic because they would be losing tons of free labor that develops elements for their environment, they are not Micro $ oft or Apple, they do not have so much money to spend and afford to lose a business model that is profitable for them.
In fact, just closing as much code as you say is screwing yourself up because you're going to lose a huge amount of people.
Sell Canonical? Aha, and? What interests you is that you continue to have your system and that it works, a change of owners will do nothing unless they decide to turn the wheel drastically, which would be a sovereign idiocy with so much potential still. Moreover, the very idea of selling the company behind the world's third most used desktop operating system is ridiculous.
Bro, apparently you're just another Canonical hater.
Waoo it seems to me that you lack a lot of information. I see that the scope of what I said was not understood. The linux kernel like it or not; is by Linus Torval even
being free, he has the last word, they are confusing gymnastics with magnesia. I see that you are misinformed. I hope that this lack of information does not catch you a good day by surprise. Precisely about canonical etc ... I got the information by looking for data on ubuntu and it is official. Users live in a cloud. It was not understood what I said ... .. look for information ... .. canonical is the private part [the one that commands] in ubuntu or why do you think they "nail" unity when 65% of users or more did not like it? why now mint is # 1 in the ranking? One good day you can do whatever the private part of Ubuntu wants from selling, closing the project, handing it over to third parties etc ... [which would totally change if the focus of the project is not part of the project - users may have to migrate to another distro which is feasible. Business goes up and down in this there is no one who can 100% determine what happens in the future. But the imposition of Unity by force already had a first; It was not a community decision - what more evidence than that? …. what follows will come later ... wait for it ..... report - don't take it personally - don't attack the participants of this forum just because they say something that doesn't seem pretty to them .. wake up sleepers !! .Cheers…
«CITO» _ On October 31, 2011, during the presentation of the Ubuntu Developer Summit, Mark announced the integration of Ubuntu in several other devices, such as tablets, televisions, telephones and traditional computers. All this integration will conclude in version 14.04, in April 2014.34
In January 2012, during the CES 2012 technology fair, Canonical unveiled Ubuntu TV, which offers a simple and intuitive interface to organize content and services for TV.35
I quote »-In February 2012, Canonical announces 'Ubuntu for Android', which allows you to run the Ubuntu desktop directly from an Android smartphone by connecting to a monitor through a dock. Features like contact syncing, social media syncing, and Android app view are possible. Ubuntu for Android has compatibility with smartphones with multiple ARM cores, and the advantage of sharing the same kernel with Android.36 - and we can continue to QUOTE more information - yes gentlemen is true and that in this computer I am using ubuntu right now [one of my several compus] unfortunately it is true canonical and mark Shuttleworth has the last word [not the community] and if they nailed me unity - I like it or not and despite my complaints and those of thousands of users that we ended up using other distros - it did not take away from him in This computer is the old version of ubuntu that does not use unity - due to lack of time etc .. but it is true that money $ weighs more than the rest despite the fact that being private partly gives it a boost [I am not opposed to developers making money as long as they do a good job] but always .. the commercial interests will always go above the "gift" and if thousands had to leave the classic ubuntu UNITY because even with everything and the improvements and I have gone down to it latest version - I don't like it. Point. But who am I and the thousands of users to oppose canonical and mark Shuttleworth? [We miserable commoners of free software? They will blast us in the face that they send and we have no right to impose anything where we receive a product practically "given away", are they not right? I don't see myself, I don't think it's possible ever chatting with Shuttleworth like I can do with Ikey and his collaborators in the IRC chat - no- I'm nice and even though he makes the last decision- it's his project - at least I make myself heard »That is why I joined the SolusOS project - although changes are planned - it listens to us - as we always have a» face to face »chat communication» and being a small community there is more human warmth. I do not rule out that it could be a commercial part at some time to inject $ to the developer therefore greater impulse as long as it does not happen like the big ones like this ubuntu - which grew - boastful and no longer listen to its community money weighs more than everything else . And canonical or mark Shuttleworth with his project can do today and tomorrow whatever he wants - if I decide to use ubuntu then it will be sucking what they want I like not. Forget to chat directly with Mark or Canonical or even think about it. SolusOS has that enormous advantage [if it is not damaged in the future] direct communication with the developer [Ikey] and a very participative community willing to help] I could mention other aspects but I have already extended myself too much - excuse me - I will continue the solusOS project because the style and concept seems very good. Thank you
Hi, let me tell you that the idea of a distro based from scratch seems fantastic, and more like this man Ikey works 🙂 by the way very handsome. I think that building a distro from scratch will give you the freedom to create new things, but just as if they are not on it, the advances in security, optimization and programs will be diminished. That was one of the reasons for pardus to switch to debian. Let's hope Ikey surprises us, I'm an admirer of his great work and I think the man knows what he's doing. Kisses, pau: *
Does anyone have a date when solus will be released as a mother distro?
Does anyone have a date when solus will be released as a mother distro? I think it's a big gamble and a risk that few people would face. I think the benefits have already been evaluated and the best way to make an echo in the world of Linux distros is to make a radical change for the benefit of the community. I think Ikey has that point very clear and is on the right track.
Mieeeeeerda, this boy is on fire!