The post is a translation of an article published in PCWorld, called: "Top 5 Mistakes Made by Linux First-Timers", it explains and comments on the main mistakes made (or ideas they have) users who have just entered the world of Tux (Linux hehe).
Error 1.- We are so used to Windows that we expect all OS to be and react the same.
That is the most common case from my point of view since when entering we look for and do similar things and in some cases not being able to reach the requested point, we prefer to leave the OS and return to the comfort of doing things in the same way as the that we are used to.
For me, this is the moment where we can give ourselves the opportunity to learn to use a different, easy and in most cases more secure Operating System, with the plus that every day and Linux distribution are easier for a novice user Such is the case of Ubuntu, the most popular distribution and full of communities that will help you get to know the Linux world in a simple way.
And as the author says: "... a small learning curve will gain you a lifetime of advantages" which would be something like: "a small learning curve will win a lifetime of advantages." with which I totally agree.
Error 2.- Use the Root, Superuser or Administrator without need.
The "Root" user is -equivalent- to an Administrator user in Windows, the big difference is that thanks to the good configuration and the way it is used, root is only good to use in special cases, which many commit new is to give special permissions to each application they use, which makes your system somewhat unstable. This does not mean that you have to stop using said user, what it does is ask for it and use it as often as necessary, since in W $ even to change the time or open a certain program you have to confirm in some cases, put the password, causing it to become somewhat annoying.
Error 3.- Use Google to search for software.
When a Windows user comes to Linux, he is used to downloading and sometimes paying for the software you use, but that does not happen with Linux distributions, there is a program manager or in Ubuntu - Ubuntu Software Center "to which You simply open it, perform a search within the different available categories (Accessories, Education, Graphics, Internet, Office, among others) and press install and enter your administrator password or user with privileges.
The advantages:
You do not download trial programs that last 30 days.
Do not download crack programs, which mostly contain viruses, malware, causing instability and serious OS errors
You don't waste time googling.
The software that you can locate does the same functions that you are used to.
It is mostly Free, Free and of excellent quality.
By updating your system, you update all your applications, avoiding having to search for each new version of the software.
Error 4.- Fear of the Command Line, Shell.
When one begins or hears about the Command Line, one imagines that it is something that only "experts" can handle, but the truth is different, since in most cases we can perform tasks faster than in graphical mode.
The more you use it, it will become an ally and over time you will see it more practical than the classic "next, next, next ..."
Mistake 5.- Given too easily.
The last mistake in this article is very simple. Nobody is born knowing Windows or another OS but after a while you get along without problems, that is why you have to remember it is another Operating System, it has its advantages and ways over time you will realize that you learned things in an easy and practical way.
We must remember that any of the Distributions (Distros) have a large Community behind, which we are willing to shake hands with each other, if you have doubts, problems do not hesitate to ask for assistance.
So I encourage new users not to be discouraged when entering any distribution and know all the advantages that it gives them.
As you can see, a really good article, really successful 😀
Although the post is somewhat old (October 2010) I think that even the general idea, the logic or intention is undoubtedly still important and current, changing from any OS to a new one, not only means changing our software ... but also, being a not very flexible, open-minded, that is ... change us a bit too 😉
If also ... the change is for the better, why not do it? 😀
What a good article and very successful in the five points, also the biggest problem is that when people get used to something they do not want to leave it so the other is much better.
Thank you
It is not my article really (I left the nickname and blog of the author in several places), however I am glad to know that you found it pleasant 🙂
First of all, thank you very much for the comment, you are right, it is an old article but that does not mean that it ceases to be current, just on Saturday I went to FLISoL UAM-I and I told you that we discussed that point and indeed several points that were mentioned they were still in force.
I hope that soon we will be able to remove those errors and bring more people to this great world of GNU / Linux.
P.S. I'm on a work machine, that's why it comes out as Windows OS, but I use Ubuntu. = P
Certainly I strongly agree that humans are a customary animal and are resistant to changes, but there is something that I do not understand, why does a user have to know how to configure an operating system? Or do you have to know how to enter command lines? Why do they always focus on the fact that the user has to have computer skills?
Is that, playing music, or going online, opening My documents or running Word and then printing does not require excessive knowledge.
It is that all the topics that I have seen like that sin the same, the common user is not a programmer or a computer enthusiast, he does not have to touch the configuration and much less have to compile.
That if the interface design changes in Windows, mac, gnome or kde stile, they are insignificant things because what people fuse are the programs that can be executed in that system, for an engineer if this system does not run Autocad it does not work .
These types of articles are only to self-justify the little audience that GNU / linux has.
I think that low percentage is because Windows users are simply not interested in learning to use anything other than what they already know.
Maybe when GNU / Linux becomes more popular, the other monkeys will start using it.
Because of what monkey sees, monkey does.
Hopefully it was just that sieg84, many of those monkeys would be ubuntu.
In my opinion, the percentage is low because Windows comes "standard" on most computers. Ordinary people don't know how to install almost anything. If they have to install an operating system they freak out. The fear of "crashing" the computer paralyzes them. On the other hand, yes, Linux is a great unknown. Ordinary people want Windows on their new computer because it is what everyone (except 4 computer experts addicted to the command line) has. It is a vicious cycle that is difficult to break. If there is no demand, the supply does not go up (unless a large company insists on promoting GNU / Linux).
@ Windóusico but the panorama could be improved, because the main problem that I see with GNU / Linux is whether its union ... Unify the image, facilitate access to everything with a click, as few as possible, limit the distros, unanimous advertising campaigns , software promotion ... A single system.
Imagine if there was a single System, a single distribution, the distros are chosen at installation, a single desktop (a single language) that can be customized to look like Kde stile or Gnome, all in a friendly graphical interface, GNU / linux would take a lot of force and it would save an impressive amount of money and resources that can be invested in projects.
What you say, there is already an operating system called bsd, although solaris is close to it.
If you do not want to get involved with many distros choose bsd, it will not disappoint you although perhaps the learning curve is more expensive than with arch for example, I think that freebsd is an example of robustness and simplicity
BSD gives me a bad impression, it is a self-exiled Linux with superiority complexes, as soon as you enter their page they say that they are authentic UNIX, then, that almost, that they are alike, that they don't ... they don't even know what they are.
Windousian ¬¬
LOL
For that we need a Sauron, you know:
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
a Ring to attract them all and bind them in
the darknessa unique community.I have put the wrong code at the end:
tie them in
the darknessa unique community.I hope to answer your questions in the best way:
To carry out a certain task, activity, art or to use certain technology, a minimum knowledge and interest is needed on the part of the individual who intends to use it. As an example we have cell phones, driving a vehicle or machinery, etc.
Focusing specifically on Operating Systems and taking Windows as an example, the user must at least know how to use, yes or yes, the basic tools (opening files, learning to use the browser and office suites, etc.) and the "advanced" (Let's call it that: vaccinate your computer and your devices, defragment, perform hard disk checks, free disk space, backup and optimize the windows registry, etc.). As you can see, the user needs to learn to configure their equipment both for the security of their information, as well as, to help their equipment continue to function optimally, of course the "advanced" section is optional, if you don't care. how your equipment works or you do not have much to lose in case, because your equipment is not properly configured, you may lose sensitive information such as documents, images, videos, etc., then there is no point in learning it.
In the case of GNU / Linux it is a little different, an example of why the "linuxers" must configure our OS would be for: the installation of proprietary drivers (Nvidia, ATI to mention a few), this is so because the manufacturers of Such hardware does not provide the same kind of support for Linux as it does for Windows (sponsored by the business model, in short "the dough"), therefore, it is not that Linux is "Chafa" or is for geeks, if we had The same resources as those that Windows has, everything would be much easier, very few people like to battle with something for pleasure;).
Imagine one thing, that MS-DOS still existed, would you notice much difference between the Windows terminal and the Linux terminal?
If GNU / Linux has a small "audience" as you indicate it is for a simple reason: Windows follows a business model (not to say monopolistic), Linux uses a model based on services, in terms of desktop computers, they are not in competition since they do not belong to the same "league", the field where they could really compete would be in the business field (servers), this is where Windows has a very small "audience".
Yes, I understand that the time comes and it is necessary to learn a little more according to our needs, even so there are exceptions that do not vary much, because the basic tasks are basic. Through my work I have contact with engineers and architects and almost all of them, despite being highly studied people, do not know how to install Quicktime.
"As an example we have cell phones, driving a vehicle or machinery, etc." For a better example ... Those who have a car should learn to measure the oil, but by God they don't have to know how to change the engine oil and filter.
«As you can see, the user needs to learn how to configure their equipment ...» Learn or call the nephew, friend, neighbor, which happens more often.
The issue of the drivers has always been a weak point and it is good to see that every day they are giving a better solution, the nvidia issue is another issue, it does give the drivers to GNU / Linux but it is a bummer to install it at least in Fedora.
That GNU / Linux has little audience is due to the monopolistic model of Windows and for other reasons, partly deficiencies ... And that they do not finish entering the desks is not due to free software policy, I assure you.
For a common user the best option is a distribution that focuses on the idea "Out Of The Box". In some, the proprietary "drivers" are already installed. Fedora departs from that philosophy.
Neither is a distribution that releases versions every so often, if that implies a lack of support for "outdated" versions. An LTS distribution is recommended. Fedora does not meet that point.
Another thing to take into account is the support offered by administrations, companies and manufacturers to the different distributions. Experience has given me a strong answer (and it is not Fedora).
What do you recommend me?
I'm using Debian testing and I'm like this -> ^ _ ^
Ubuntu, no thanks ... I'm going to update Sid to see if he looks like this XD or like this x_x
If Debian suits you, I won't advise you to switch because I like Debian (and its derivatives). Knowing that KDE looks like a disaster to you, I would say Linux Mint 13 in about 5 months. That is, in 5 months it will be recommended (the same with any buntu 12.04). If you prefer a "Rolling Release" (because of the versionitis), I would recommend Sabayon or PCLinuxOS. If you want a "Windows-like" I would say Zorin OS.
By * buntu I mean Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, ... and they will soon have a * buntu with GNOME Shell (you won't tell me they are all the same).
it doesn't work, I know what the differences are, the internal architecture ... compatibility and stability, if I'm not a programmer that doesn't affect me to a great extent, for a graphical environment or an office environment, either works.
I am testing Debian on SID, I thought that the machine was going to give me errors and it is quite the opposite, it is extremely fast and very solid, it has the latest exceptions and I don't know why with some Kde programs it has a lot of delay, it will be because of the kde style 😀 I still see myself trying many distro in the future.
Debian has always been very slow to get the new packages to the repositories and more with kde, I don't really know why but even in sid it takes ...
When I used debian with kde, I had apt-pinning sid + experimental it was the only way to keep up to date (arch style)
It's like the driver, who has a flat tire (wheel, rubber, tire, etc.) and he doesn't know how to change it ... don't you think?
xman, This comparison is interesting, I will propose an exercise in logic ... if a 32-year-old man is spiked a tire, is it the same if a 1,60-year-old (skinny) woman is spiked or a 17-year-old adult 70?
Currently it is no longer necessary to enter command lines in Linux, there is already a graphical way for almost everything a common user does what he wants to do, the terminal is already one of the most veteran or adventurous. In the part of configuring because most of the distros are already configured for the common user who does not know the super basic in computer science.
How curious. I'm using the new version of Epiphany that is now called "Web" and Chromium appears as a browser in the comments, I think the gnome users have used the source code of this browser. Since I installed it, I noticed the difference and it seemed similar to Chromium, the bad thing is that I could not find documentation on this.
Hello
Actually, at least I think that "configuring the system" can range from itself, insert lines and lines of code, to simply change the wallpaper, in both cases the computer is being configured ... which to a lesser or greater extent.
I think that the same user (regardless of their level or knowledge) wants to be able to modify the system, simply because human beings are unhappy by nature, and will always want to change the wallpaper, put a new type of course, or ... just like us, that we want to go a little further, because many of us are passionate about computers.
KZKG ^ Gaara hadn't seen your answer, I get a bit lost in the timeline ^ _ ^
I see it in another way, or another perspective, changing the wallpaper and theme would be more customizable to configure because the normal operation of the system is not altered, installing a driver or hardware if it alters the operation.
I think that the average user, not to call it common, should not know how to install a driver, that a specialized person does that job for him. Without vetoing knowledge to those who want to improve themselves, of course.
You're right about some things, but there are GNU / Linux distributions that allow users of other operating systems to migrate without much trouble.
Distributions like Ubuntu and many of its derivatives are a good option to migrate to GNU / Linux; then you can try other distributions.
Just an observation, when it is stated that «the“ Root ”user is -equivalent- to an Administrator user in Windows»… it is not entirely true.
Root allows me to modify the same operating system, adapting it to my taste and needs. That in Windows is impossible, the code is closed and consequently inaccessible for any user, including the "administrator".
Greetings.
Sure 😉
It is well the user with administration privilege on the system, the difference between root and administrator (windows) is basically in the amount of permissions or privileges that each one has 😀
Greetings friend
In the other distros are there equivalents to the Ubuntu Software Center? I only know the opensuse YAST which would be something similar, right?
Yes, the vast majority of distributions have their own software centers, which although in appearance are different (not all, since many share the same application) work almost in the same way. Only those distributions that are "advanced", for example archlinux, do not have one by default.
Most of the users who already have some time in Linux we normally use the terminator since it is more practical and faster to do it this way, but that does not mean that newer users have to use it forcibly, over time, if at all you dare to give the penguin a chance, you will realize it.
Greetings and do not stop walking around here, all your doubts are well received 😉
Synaptic can be thought of as something similar. Sulfur de sabayon is a software center. YAST as you mentioned. Mageia, Mandriva and ROSA have software centers (can't remember their names). Linux Mint has, Deepin Linux has Deepin software center ... ahm ... let me remember, I know there are more ... Then I keep listing them for you.
Kubuntu uses Muon, and Linux Mint and Linux Deepin have their own software centers. Although of course, these are all derivatives of Ubuntu.
good point kage, and I say it from experience, although I am still ignorant in many things like packaging for example.
We are all ignorant of something 😀
You should put the source of that phrase.
I don't really know, I heard or read it at some point ... but I don't remember who it is or where I got it from ^ - ^ U
If you are so kind to tell us? 🙂
PS: Now that I remember ... the phrase is "We are all ignorant, we just ignore different things." Einstein said it right? ... it's just a stone that I throw, I'm not even 40% sure it's like that haha
Jo am 75% Linux
xD
Interesting and if I went through these mistakes as a novice, but the good thing that with Linux I have learned many things that even in private has given me that opportunity, now I am handling it in a more technical and advanced way and the truth would not finish counting the benefits that it has given me as a programmer.
And look for an antivirus HAHAHA. I've been using Linux for 7 months and the first thing I did was look for an antivirus, I had already heard that there were no viruses for Linux or something like that (I'm still not sure about it) but to be sure I wanted to install one and I didn't find any that would protect in time real, nor anispyware.
the best antivirus is oneself, with this philosophy there are no problems, neither in linux nor in another operating system
Install Nod32 for Linux, but you run the risk of being monitored by ESET.
The best thing you can do is keep the system always up to date.
so that's better than having an antivirus.
Perhaps this article can help you dispel your doubts https://blog.desdelinux.net/virus-en-gnulinux-realidad-o-mito/
Greetings 😉
It is paradoxical but Windows users are happy with the changes, no matter how much it is said here that they are not.
If you don't believe me, ask any Windows user how many would change their pc and operating system for a macbook or pro, I'm sure everyone would say.
What is not so clear how many would go for a linux, I say it is paradoxical if you go to linux you are a nerd, but if you opt for an apple you are cool son!
Apple has great experts in marketing. Invest a lot of money in advertising and convince the unsuspecting that it is the best brand. They sell you designs of a Ferrari (with Renault parts), that makes Apple products highly desired.
As a friend of mine said, a mac pro is a big and expensive pot, and now they are PCs, 86 × 64 architecture, they are PCs, they are no longer Mac, that was when they had the G5, G4, etc.
Yesterday I was fingering a macbook pro and the truth was that it was going very well, but let's not have the hidden terminal is cool 😉
apple is the same as windows but unix-like!
Marketing is good, but that marketing is paid for by all users.
You have seen that microsoft office is cheaper for mac than for windows….
Curious…
Everything must be said, yesterday I jogged him for about 17 hours without stopping and he did not flinch.
If I were a windows user I would also like something like that, it is very fast compared to windows.
Maybe if linux had its marketing policy, linux would be where apple is, although for me that would be signing the deal with the devil and that's what bsd is for ???
Although I would not like Linux to be as famous as Windows or Mac, for two simple reasons, the better known is an operating system, more viruses there are.
And for the hyper-known phrase …… .:
90% of the known things or more are a sh….
So I prefer a complicated operating system than sh ...
Mac-OS is a system designed for very specific "hardware". It is relatively easy to optimize it. Windows and GNU / Linux have it more complicated because they cover a large number of different computers.
An operating system can be easy to use without being crap. Popularity can benefit us (including advanced users). Hardware manufacturers and software developers would consider us more. I'm not worried about viruses, I don't think they become a problem. GNU / Linux is much more secure than Windows.
By that rule of three, mac would not have viruses because it is unix-like and it has been shown to have them ...
It all depends on what you consider a virus. For me, a Trojan is not a virus, for example. If you mean malware in general, as you write, there are on Mac-OS, on Windows and on GNU / Linux. You just have to have a little common sense to avoid falling into these kinds of traps… Downloading a Flash plug-in from a porn site? NO Open the file that the nice stranger number 2 sent me? NO Open the link that suggests a strange email? NO ... You just have to be a little careful.
In that I agree with you, when you are right you have to give it.
I have never had any virus problem in any operating system that I have had, but things like two antivirus in a single windows (believe me, I have seen it), and therefore there are many people who have a lot of ignorance: How to say that antivirus that are free are crap ..., things like that ...
The problem for many is that they believe that with an antivirus they believe they have prodigious security….
And I am one of those who thinks that not even with the pc turned off, disassembled and buried would you have a safe pc ...
I am a bit like we would say around here: fussy
It seemed to me that it was necessary to put formatting the pc and installing the system again it is fixed as in windows hahaha, that does not happen in linux, at least I have never seen the need to do it.
I do not like software centers because they are camouflaged virtual stores and in the future they will become aple stores megtoendo products, that is why ubunto no longer uses synaptic.
I just aptitude hahahaha.
What's wrong with selling software from a GNU / Linux application?
Absolutely nothing wrong, but because of "ubunto" everything is free ...
As far as you know, synaptic installs it from the software center, and also man does not live on bread alone.
I didn't want to, I didn't want to because I know what awaits me, but I couldn't resist commenting (at the risk of being the devil's advocate). But it's wrong. Blaming the consumer user is wrong.
"The customer is always right" and if GNU / Linux does not finish entering, it is the customer's fault, not the user.
Instead of seeing the errors of the users I could analyze the errors of the OS.
- Top five GNU-Linux mistakes towards new users -
1. The distros:
There are 15893etc of distros, they all do the same, but they are different, how do you know them, use the one you like the most by trying them. Not only that, there are X amount of versions in each distro, Debian example; Odl, Stable, Testing, Sid, and within those we have; -DVD Installation, small image CD. Small Image Cd, Net Instal, Live CD, Buy it from a supplier. And within these we have; amd64, armel, kfreebsd-i386, kfreebsd-amd64, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, sparc ………. choose you 😀
2 The desks.
If all the above options do not seem enough, you have to choose a good number of desktops, if they also do the same and you can install the programs on each other ... and any desktop can install any distro.
There are some clones of windows and other clones of mac, and others ...
3 Talibanism
Easy, don't ever ask someone something (simple) without first arguing "excuse me for the question but I'm just starting out" because they are going to tell you of ignorant useless up ... Another, totally DENIED to ask them to do an easy tutorial, without lines of code because, they will answer you; "If you want to use linux, Fuck you!" (or they think about it)
4 Without VIrus.
In Linux there are no viruses, it is a reality ... but be careful that there are other little programs that can "damage" something like your processor. But that does not matter, the important thing is that there is no Virus 😀
5 The most stable system.
And it is like that, of course, Ubuntu and others is not a distro, it is a monster that should not be called linux and If you want your system super stable, you cannot install ANYTHING, nor see flash, nor mp3, nor ANYTHING driver ... Anything Linux is better than windows and even though windows has better things, we deny it or just ignore it, the same for Linux deficiencies
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comic soon ...
6 no identity. 7 Linux or GNU / Linux. 8 Gimp KDE and other 9 marketing tragedies and the strange case that programs come out first on windows.
Windows 10 comes pre-installed.
Aside from my sarcastic comment, you have to see the context. And I clarify, I am a NEW and happy GNU / Linux USER
ps: before I have commented as opensantux
pd2: the comment is a bit long, do not read it if you want ^ _ ^
Here's a sample of what you say:
Ah! ... but if you try to defeat that paralysis even at the cost of damaging the computer and you make a mistake, the same person tells you this -it's been four times that he tells me the same thing-:
If I am an advanced user or not of Windows is totally irrelevant -in fact I don't use Windows- The point is that if you do not dare to do something out of fear you are a fool, but if you do it and on the way you make a mistake ... they still call you a fool.
I am not interested in knowing, and being repeated ad nauseam, that it is my fault ... what interests me is knowing why that happens, just as perseus explained it. For me it was not a mistake but an experience that taught me three things:
1.-The first is that although the distros GNU / Linux they are relatively immune to viruses the operating system can be compromised if you install something incompatible with the dependencies.
2.-Even if new software comes out, it is useless to want to use it immediately, it may be compatible with another distro but not with mine. I miss the case, but perseus he has already documented the reasons for us.
3.-GNU / Linux it is still not a newbie operating system because many advanced users -with its rare exceptions- they prefer to repeat you "It's your fault, don't do it" -although those same proclaim «... they are scared, they don't do it because they think they are going to spoil something »- instead of seeing an opportunity for improvement in operating system codes.
My previous comment is mostly for reflection and counterpart to an article that I do not agree with, it is an opinion and reflects my need for the system to be friendlier.
But ... Here the problem is not the user and not the OS ...
The problem is Gimp! And I really am getting more than contempt for this program.
-In which head is it possible to promote and offer a version that cannot be used? but still, if there is an installable version for Windows / W / XP.
-It is one of the flags of GNU / Linux and is one of the most backward programs of its kind.
-Blender 2.63-a (the latest) if it can be downloaded and run on any system.
-Unforgivable marketing mistakes. Etc.
Please respond to the purpose of your comment. Do not use Lex2.3d as a firewall, I do not find out later that you have answered me. On the other hand, it seems to me a lack of education.
If you call me a Taliban or a fanatic for defending the view that GNU / Linux has distributions for common people, I will only write that ignorance is very daring.
Paralysis is overcome by reading documentation. It is one thing to be brave and another to be reckless. You should have read the official GIMP page and the page for that PPA you wanted to install. I know that you understand English perfectly, so you have no excuse. If you knew how a Linux system works, you wouldn't make those mistakes. Don't risk it if you don't know what you're doing (learn how it works first).
I repeat that a common user does not break his head if he has GIMP 2.6 or GIMP 2.8, so he does not run into those problems of yours. "Versionitis" is a thing for advanced or immature users. Typically, a "normal" user will ask a colleague "who controls" for help to install the "Pitiflus CS45" or the "Omega 69 Professional". Don't try to fool me by writing that ordinary Windows users are self-sufficient.
If you want to blame your mistakes on someone else, go ahead. If you want help, ask for it, but you don't get rid of the scolding.
Thank you. I think the title of "Error 5" is mistranslated. I think it would be better as "Giving up too easily" or "Throwing in the towel too easily." regards
gopaljade y Lex2.3d, actually the entire article written by Avatar 1488 is a "Re-interpretation" from the original written by Katherine noyes. In fact, even the essence and the very intention of the original editorial is different, since Katherine never try to portray novice users as fainthearted people who abandon their purpose at the first problems (We prefer to leave the OS and return to the comfort of doing things in the same way that we are used to.). In the article of noyes there is not a single phrase, a line or an expression reviling Windows as operating system (… Since in W $ even to change the time or open a certain program you have to confirm in some cases to put the password, causing it to become something annoying.).
Avatar 1488 has all the right in the world to express its opinion, freedom of expression is a universal right, what should be clarified is that it is in no way a translation but rather a composition of ideas very typical of Avatar 1488 and that, in no way, reflect the spirit of the original which, despite the title, is not about the mistakes of newbies but is actually a series of advice. Probably Avatar 1488 Say that yours too is going the same way, but since your own introduction to the subject you have already twisted the form and, most unfortunate, the substance: what in the noyes it is didactic, in the «translation» it becomes an exhibition that balconies and an opportunity to "show" how bad is it Windows. Avatar 1488 took the article out of context by omitting the original introduction and that is what gives meaning and structure to the advice that noyes pour below. I only need to say, as I read in another article, who Windows it's bad because its owners are American citizens (just being a US citizen makes you a bad person, apparently)
Lex2.3d, normally within the world GNU / Linux we spend them staring at each other's navel, immersed in a sea of self-indulgence arguing ad nauseam the benefits of existing distros in the world GNU / Linux. Certainly, just as noyes noted in the introduction of your article (and that strong> Avatar 1488 omitted) in a certain way Ubuntu has been bringing operating systems closer GNU / Linux to the man in the street, to the one whose motivation is not to search the entrails of a distro, much less live the philosophy of free software -not because I don't understand it, but because it is not as vital for everyone as it can be for stallman-. Ordinary people want -I include myself- use a simple and straightforward operating system ... and certainly the distros of GNU / Linux they are still far from it. An example? Well, here there is one.
What did this experience teach me? In the first place that within this supposed «support of the Linuxera community» there are more people willing to say «... it's your fault, there are things that a newbie should not do» than to give real support. I take this opportunity to thank again Courage and sieg84 your help.
We go from the intelligence that I made a blunder and I I hurried to install a software whose dependencies were incompatible with mine ... well ... then there is something that is not right, if a software is already released for use, why do I have to wait until I can install it without an incompatibility messing up the system hopelessly? So if I have to be checking what I should and should not install on my operating system, the matter is not as easy as it is painted. Around the same time I received a package with DVDs containing the latest version of Adobe CS6 to install in Windows o MacOSX and the same installer helped me to install the package both in Mac OS X 10.6.8 as in more recent 10.7. Even the installer for Windows serves equally in Windows XP as in Vista y 7. Today I have that package working perfectly at 25 Apple Lossless Audio CODEC (ALAC), and the impossibility of using GIMP en Linux Mint.
@Tina, without eagerness to contradict you and with the idea of trying to explain why Gimp 2.8 (in this case) "broke" your system is because of the following: GNU / Linux is an operating system that is constantly evolving, to put a For example, the Kernel, do you know how many patches or corrections it receives daily from those in charge of its development? Many, perhaps hundreds of fixes daily, these fixes are applied to avoid bugs, polish functionalities and add compatibility with most of the existing hardware today, among a thousand other things. In the case of Mac, it is not like that, since being a closed platform (not only in terms of software, but also in hardware) it has no problem with it, since as I said, they have absolute control of their own products . Another particular case is Windows, Microsoft is only responsible for patching errors as they are detected, it is responsible for launching or designing new versions of its operating system according to its own purposes. Hardware manufacturers for the Windows platform focus on making drivers for their own devices and expanding or improving their product catalog. Well, as you can see, the greatest virtue in GNU / Linux is also its Achilles heel, why? Constant updates wreak havoc on most of the Frozeen Release distributions like (Z) buntu, LM, Mageia and so many more. In the case of Rolling Release distributions such as ArchLinux, Gentoo, etc., it is completely different since being completely open to changes it is very unlikely that a certain application will not work correctly due to dependency issues. Please allow me to delve further on this point.
Frozeen Release distributions follow the following pattern: they take a certain number of dependencies and applications, in this case let's take Gimp as a clear example: LM when launching its X version had to freeze its packages or applications as well as its dependencies, this does not allow ideally use future versions of the same dependencies or applications in a previously frozen version, an example to explain better: when you installed LM on your computer I also install (so to speak) Gimp 2.7 and version 2.7 of its dependencies (this does not is correct technically speaking, but I take this argument for "educational" purposes), well, after a few months, the brand new version 2.8 of Gimp comes out (the same one that needs version 2.8 of its dependencies), but since the new one has not yet come out version of LM (same version that Gimp and its dependencies will be fully updated for sure), you dare to try it, you add a ppa that promises to help during the installation installation, said ppa installs version 2.8 of the application but not the dependencies, what happens then? Well, you have the application in version 2.8 but using the dependencies with the previous version (2.7), result? Instability in your system or in a few words "breaks" it. Why does this not happen in Rolling Release distributions? Simple, because before releasing the Gimp update, the dependencies are first updated and if everything happens correctly, until then the new version of the application is released. These types of distributions are the ones that really take advantage of the virtue of constant updating of GNU / Linux in the most efficient way.
As you can see, the problem is not itself that "Linux" cannot be trusted or that the novice user is to blame for the damage that occurs to their system (without going into monopolistic, commercial, or hardware issues of the devices), they are simply bad decisions or a bad design in the concept of creating a distribution under the Frozeen Release concept. The saddest thing of all is that these types of distributions are the majority in the GNU / Linux ecosystem, this is due to an old legacy that soon, I hope, can be broken for the well-being of all users and supporters of the penguin.
I hope I have clarified the matter a bit for you, if you need something else or I did not make myself understood properly, just ask.
Greetings.
Instead perseusThank you very much for such a clear and gentle presentation. And yes, exactly what you say is just what happened to me Linux Mint.
However, what you explained so well reaffirms that many of the distros of GNU / Linux They still have to work the mile to be used by people "on foot". I want to put my case with GIMP: Despite not being an advanced user, I do not consider myself a novice, and yet an oversight spoiled my system. In my case it is not so important or consequential because precisely I use Linux Mint to learn, yet I wonder -and I ask them- What if in my place there was a novice designer whose only working tool is precisely the computer where GIMP it does not work?
Here I am not referring to a person who uses Linux Mint as a hobby ... no ... let's imagine that it is a person whose commitment to delivery with his client is compromised simply and simply because his work tool does not work.
And it is important to emphasize that in this case it is not a virus that has destabilized the system but, as you say perseus, the existence of multiple corrections that cause incompatibility in the dependencies of the distros. That is the same as Lex2.3d argues below: there are dozens of distros in GNU / Linux ... and the real problem is not which one to choose but that, at given moments, many of them are incompatible with each other -as if they were different operating systems- and this is not easy for a novice user to understand.
A common user does not know how to install almost anything (not in Windows, not in Mac-OS, not in GNU / Linux). What you can never do is perform advanced user tasks as a regular user (not on Windows, not on Mac-OS, not on GNU / Linux).
Adding repositories identified as "experimental" is for advanced users. If you are not an advanced user of GNU / Linux, you should follow the recommendations of the developers. The GIMP developers advise the official repositories of each distribution (see their download section). A common user must wait for GIMP 2.8 to be officially released in distribution. In fact, a street user does not know which version he uses (or they are not sure).
A "normal" user should not follow recipes from Google if he does not know what he is dealing with (and it does not matter what operating system he uses). It was your mistake Tina, you must admit it and take it into account for the next one. Linux is not Windows. It does not matter if you are an advanced user in Windows (which you are, you do not belong to common Windows users), that does not work for you in Linux.
Linux is not perfect, that is true. But you can't blame the toaster for burning your bread if you haven't deigned to read the instruction manual. And it is not worth the fact that your previous toaster left you the perfect bread without having to read the instructions. That can be due to many things and is not necessarily a virtue of your previous toaster. Maybe your mother used the same one and that's why you remember how it goes, or that its operation was much simpler (it only works for toasting sliced bread). The point is, there are OOTB distributions that are perfect for novice "ordinary" users (not advanced Windows users).
I forgot to disassemble a certain argument:
You cannot compare Windows and Mac-OS bundles with the installation system used by the GNU / Linux distributions. But you know that in GNU / Linux they also exist. They can be run on any GNU / Linux distribution (and on any version, with no dependencies to resolve). I leave you an example (GIMP 2.7):
http://portablelinuxapps.org/download/GIMP%202.7.2
It should work on Ubuntu 10.04 and higher, Fedora 12 and higher, openSUSE 11.3 and higher,… (you must mark the file as executable). As you can see, Linux could be like Windows, but you would lose certain advantages.
Thanks Tina, I would like to read the original topic, I was referring specifically to the one I read.
And you are right, and that is why I criticize even though I win the dislike of some, I criticize And I propose, because criticism is never destructive, it is one of the best ways to improve more when it comes from within.
The Gimp thing, because I think it goes out of context, it is not the issue. Installing a program by means other than the usual ones can give you an error and that is a risk assumed by the one who tries it. What seems strange to me is that it is for Windows and not for Linux.
Hi Tina 🙂
Regarding the security advice post, there is a misunderstanding here ... I have excellent American friends, in fact ... my best friend (who I also grew up with) is, and lives in that country right now.
The simple fact of being a citizen of one country or another does not define anything, much less makes a person good or bad, what I meant with those lines in the post is simply that the owners of Microsoft are citizens of the United States, for what they must respond to the laws or resolutions of that country.
In other words, if one fine day the US government dictates a law that says that it has to have access (through a backdoor for example) to all computers that use Windows, Microsoft, as a company that is on the soil of this country, is almost I'm sure you will.
This is what I mean friend.
I want to make it clear, I have nothing against the citizens of the United States nor against those of any country, I value people for how they think and how they act, not for the place of origin.
regards
Instead KZKG ^ Gaara, I feel sorry to you for not having understood it as you put it, of course I deeply appreciate the kindness of your clarification. By the way, the gentilicio "American" to refer to the citizens of the USA is very correct:
American, na.
1. adj. Native of America. U. tcs
2. adj. Belonging to or relating to this part of the world.
3. adj. Indiano (‖ who returns rich from America).
4. adj. U.S. Apl. to pers., utcs
5. f. Fabric jacket, with lapels and buttons, that reaches below the hips.
Nothing, do not worry. I felt a little bad for the fact that my post could be interpreted in this way, my mistake I guess because I did not make it clearer ^ - ^ »
Regarding the gentilicio, I think I will pay more attention not to generalize so much, even when it is technically correct ... some readers might feel offended or annoyed, I better avoid problems 😀
Thanks for the comments really 😉
Using bsd is no poop, it is true that it is like using a linux of 10-15 years ago, or what is the same is quite similar to using slackware but with a package manager and without having to look at the dependencies *
Because of the package manager….
But let's go as you have suggested less distros… ..
And in my opinion it is also somewhat more elitist, at least the freebsd.
But if I had to choose between centos and openbsd, I would not think about it much….
What I say that outside windows and mac there is also life and not only linux….
The truth is that the first impression of BSD does not appeal to me, but I will end up trying it too.
It would be very educational especially for newbies like me if it in desdelinux They make a post about Open Operating Systems, their differences and their virtues. 😉
Educational it is, it goes without saying that arch, gentoo and slackware pilfer the base of bsd-init it won't be so bad if used by some linux distros.
It is more to find information about slackware the best thing is in google bsd
By the way, have you seen the freebsd handbook ???
At the height of arch and gentoo
From FreeBSB I read quite a bit before getting into Fedora. FreeBSB is a UNIX, which is not UNIX, I mean a GNU, no, it is not GNU, these are perhaps the most out of focus of all.
What if Archlinux, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, etc ... I exclude any distro that does not identify itself as "GNU / Linux" outright, because I am going to learn to be a Taliban first and foremost and things have to be called by his name, but they are all the same.
I'm not going to play with the operating system, I'm going to play with the design, 3d, audio and video tools that can be installed and everything can be installed to all. What I'm looking for is stability and support.
I don't even want to imagine when the Hurd comes out.
The only one I've known (so far) that runs a balanced press, calls things by name, has support, and runs an "impeccable advertising image" is Debian GNU / Linux ... And I appreciate that, it's outdated, install the testing, more current, the Sid ... I have the Sid and honestly I have to say that it is more stable than Fedora and much faster.
For now I'm still testing Debian, which is the one that meets my needs apart from the above.
The rpm parcel is slow, but according to stallman it is the reference and according to him it is the standard parcel, I don't know why ...
Debian is light in itself but if you do it as a netinstall, you will have a light distro that yes, to i386.
Do not expect arch speed, another thing is if you are looking for a 100% free distro, I am sorry to tell you that according to stallman debian is not free
very good entry, the post is old but the errors that are made are and will be the same.
With your permission I write it down.
1greeting
bp
Excellent Article, it seems to me that it is totally true, even, it happened to me a few years ago when I started using Linux ...
Linux is going to become popular when they make things easier for ordinary people: Point'n click and go, without complications and without depending on the internet. And when AAA video games appear for Linux… There are so many distros that it is impossible for a video game developer to make something that works in all of them.
I agree with Lex2.3d that it is not the fault of the user if Linux is not as intuitive as Windows.
Blame it on the developers who insist on keeping Linux only for a nerdy elite. When you focus on ordinary people, there is going to be MASS migration.
@Digital_CHE
good info, the same thing happened to me, now I can't leave linux.
It seems to me very good that Linux is not used massively, I prefer few acquaintances than many aggressive ones. Linux reaches anyone who does not settle for being part of those who are continuously accused and investigated by an abusive manufacturer ... .. by all known.
It took me 17 years to learn to use windows, and I've only been starting with xubuntu for a few months.
hahaha I made all the mistakes because to enter linux I had to make the attempt 2 times
WHEN I START USING UBUNTU IT GIVES ME A HEADACHE FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO INSTALL SOFTWARE IN LINUX, BUT WITH A LITTLE PATIENCE AND SOME TUTORIALS I SOLVE MY PROBLEMS, AND NOW MUCH BETTER TO DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE FROM THE PAGES http://gnomefiles.org/ And //www.getdeb.net :)
Julio, it makes my eyes ache to read your comment.
Many serious mistakes, why don't you use a spell checker ???
I have arrived very late to this post, but I would like to leave my comment 😛. When I entered gnu / linux I had to go around several times, I started with knoppix (ubuntu was little known) and I could not reconcile some concepts ... the fact that mount had to be used ... that xorg had to be configured because when startingx it turned off the monitor , manually edit grub for dualboot, I was not afraid of the terminal because cmd already used it, but what am I going to do with this comment ... I was a newbie and I was already typing on a black screen, linux distros would not have to give these problems to the newbie .. many to see this leave and return to their windows. Things have changed a lot but we still see the same problems in elite distros. Today I can compile a gentoo in two days but I still like distros like ubuntu and opensuse…. They have tried to get closer to the common user… as other OS evolved and it is not necessary to edit autoexec and config / himem…. It would be good if the distros are more friendly.
Hello, just like Mario, I have arrived late to this post. well I have almost 5 days of having dabbled in LINUX in FEDORA 17 and my question is how I do then when I install it. I have to go to the console or TERMINAL to enter a command amount as a way to update the sound, video, java, flash player, etc. drivers?
I have not been able to install a wine program that I read that helps me to record programs that run under windows and I need one more that is what I work with called quickbook, which is accounting software.
My question goes in the sense that once installed I go to that window that says install / remove programs and from there do the search without using google and then copy all that from yum or commands?
Will this be easier? What I do not understand is that if I select desktop in the program installation manager and then search for the program and thus installed it? Do you always have to have the internet to work with Linux? Someone told me yes, because everything is done like this. for me it is only to update or install programs. I would like clarification from the linux community
What I have seen is that the video and music players do not have a good sound, something like the windows media player 11 and version 12. Something called surrond I think that is how it is written that it is the one that allows me to hear the bass sounds and not so sharp or stereos.
And my question is that if I have the GNOME desktop I can change the color of the windows, I mean customize and add icons on the desktop. I don't like many icons but at least the one that I use the most, such as opening documents, for example.
Regards,
Hello again . What do you recommend me regarding that I have done everything because I am exploring fedora 17, reinstall it and not do so many installation things?
and to install it I must keep the previous one or format the partition. How do I keep another partition for windows 7?
Right now it is as if a practice and as now I am reading more and some say what to do after installing it and others say that it is not necessary because it only asks to install updates without one putting an update on the TERMINAL. Now I am somewhat confused, some say that you have to go to the TERMINAL, others to the window to install and remove programs and give it the search and thus install the programs and updates. but to uninstall how is it done?
excuse my ignorance, I think it happens to all of us at the beginning of something new ... perhaps to some more than to others.
Before trying to install the same programs that you had in Windows, I recommend looking for equivalent applications. Google their names.
This website has a forum where you can leave your concerns about GNU / Linux. In these posts the articles are commented.
Another tip: if you are a newbie choose a different distro. Those of the following link may be valid:
http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/14091137/Mejores-distros-para-principiantes-Linux.html
As for the sound "surrond" is a term used when talking about surround sound (3D). It has nothing to do with bass or treble. You should explain yourself better.
To have Windows with GNU / Linux you need at least two partitions (one for each system). Search on Google.
To install applications that are not on the CD / DVD (or to update the system) you need Internet, but you can use Fedora (or any other) without Internet.
PS: If you are a troll, congratulations.
Hello, thanks for answering
Yes, I am definitely not a computer scientist but lately I have something like "thirst" to try something new, different from windows and I have taken it as a challenge to understand it as windows
Regarding the sound, the truth is that I thought it was that of bass and treble because when I configured it I activated it there and the sound was heard more serious. no idea it's 3D.
Well that's how you learn
the partitions and all that I already did. I have the program installed but in my house and it is serving as a practice something that I cannot do from the office.
I have backup of everything in case something went wrong.
Thank you Windóusico
Maybe you mean the equalizer in Windows Media Player. There are many players with equalizer such as Clementine, SMPlayer, VLC, ...
I hope you satisfy your curiosity without drowning. If you continue with Fedora, don't lose your patience.
If the VLC I use it in windows 7 also the same as the windows wmplayer12.
In the equalizer I frame techno. but in windows media player there are also some options where you add if you want to see bars, when it is mp3, scope, the effect modes in the place where the video should appear. as in the VLC that by default has an icon as a traffic sign.
Also there being in the equalizer if you give it next, other options appear and that is where I saw something that says sorrund and if you mark it on, you hear a good sound that I like.
Later today I will arrive at my house to continue exploring FEDORA 17 and thank you for answering me
Regards,
In KDE you configure surround sound (surround sound) from Phonon. In my case I have equipment with 2 speakers and I don't need surround sound.
I can't identify that option you are talking about. Sounds like you mean something from the "Enhancements" section (where the equalizer is), it could be the SRS WOW effects, auto volume leveling and chaining or the Dolby Digital setting, no idea.
IF exactly that is what activated the effects of the SRS WOW that windows media player has. and I have not seen it in the players that I have installed in FEDORA 17.
I will carefully review if it has them or under another name. Maybe for being a novice in this I have not found it, since in windows I already knew where they were.
Very good post friend and I would say the same to new users do not be discouraged I am not an expert either but I tried it and I was lucky 🙂
I think it would be interesting to publish a study on the use of different OSs used from an early age, that is, to accustom the user to mostly using a single OS (Linux, Windows, MacOS) and start using a different OS after years with it.
I think it would be interesting to know the results of the learning curves between users who come from Windows and try MacOS / Linux and vice versa. to know which system is more practical and intuitive in a natural way.
Although Ubuntu has done a lot (as others did before: Mandriva !!) to attract new Windows users and to adapt and facilitate the use of Linux as much as possible, they have had to, sooner or later, use the command console or fight to install something. The console is and will be a terrible enemy of usability / ease for the modern world where the GUI is EVERYTHING.
Ok ok !! I know that with a couple of commands you finish before, I know! But I see it in the office, at home, in companies and everywhere. A button that says "install" is more practical than remembering sudo apt-get install program ...
That is why I refer to my first comment, Windows has created a standard that Linux does not comply with 100% and therefore creates some suspicion. But what if Linux were the standard?
Hi. I pressed control alt f4, when the black screen appeared I did not understand anything, it asked me for the password so I put it, after trying to close it I pressed something like control alt sup and a lot of letters appeared. Restart and I can not use more Ubuntu, it broke so it seems, so they want the people of windows to pass because they make it so easy to touch sensitive things in the system, in windows if you enter program files for example it warns you that you can break something, the truth after this does not make me want to reinstall ubuntu something like this could happen to me again
hang on linux !!!! l..l 🙂
1.- If linux is different from windows. You have to understand / accept that linux is necessary to move combined keys. This is the same: When one person is skilled in algebra and the other barely knows how to write their name. 2) In my case I had ubuntu 14.04 (pay for it) It appeared "Ubuntu 15.04 update" I clicked it. Now it does not recognize me against me, I am a newbie and to modify / recover it is not easy; I hope you understand. 3 If I use google, it is what appears to me. , I consider that LINUX is for people who understand COMPUTER / INFORMATICS,…. And not for just any neighbor's son. THAT should be warned when they make the invitation to change / stay / move, ...
4) And it is not fear. Again, this is for people who know or have this.
5) I ask for patience and time for all this LINUX stuff.