I want to share this mini comic, I found it in DeviantArt one day, I just don't remember the user or his gallery, nevertheless I share it.
I think that many of us will feel identified, because obviously, it is a situation that has happened to several of us HAHAHA.
Click on the image to see it in full size:
I have been using Ubuntu for quite a few years, before I used SUSE and OpenSUSE.
I recently felt like making a change and trying another distro, especially I was looking for a rolling distro with Gnome for 64-bit PCs.
I tried Gentoo and, although it is true that it requires a lot of time for compilations, I really liked it because in a short time I learned a lot. But, despite managing to install a functional Gnome with relative ease, there was no way to install the Spanish language.
So I tried Arch Linux. The installation of a functional Gnome environment was much faster, but there was no way that it was seen in Spanish.
So ... I stick with Ubuntu. Perfect for a desktop environment, with multiple PPAs if you don't want to complicate your life compiling, although the option to compile is always there.
Greetings.
You are right about something, I have always said that there are 3 things that I like about Ubuntu:
1- The Gtk theme.
2- The Ubuntu source.
3- The PPAs.
It is true that there is a lot of software ready to install on Launchpad… 😀
I never liked the Ubuntu theme, not even when I used it, the font that gnome 3 brings (by default) has nothing to envy the Ubuntu one, it is perfect without touching anything. The PPAs are very good, although some give headaches when it comes to updating the version (or they gave) I don't know how that works now.
But the RR of arch, pacman and aur are 3 more than enough reasons for me to use archlinux, pacman is just great.
The first day GOD clicked
sudo pacman -S let there-be-light
and the light was made and he saw that it was good and he called the light day and the darkness called windows, I say night 😀
Good for tastes of colors. I have not found a more beautiful font than Ubuntu Font for my system. Previously I used Aller (from which Dalton Maag got Ubuntu Font apparently). Cantarell, the source of Gnome did not quite convince me. But hey.
And the main problem with Arch at least for us, is the fucking limitation with the internet connection.
I understand that Wi FI there are not legal, so I do not understand what the problem of internet connection is
Courage, I could give you a whole seminar on how things work here and you wouldn't understand. But I'll make it easier for you, here we don't have internet at home, as maybe they have it in your country, and we connect from work, with a 256Kb link, with 32Kbs of shared download ... How do you think we can update against internet when sometimes we go down to 5kbps? That without counting the restrictions imposed by our ISP.
Wow, you better not touch that key .. 😀
I am not referring to connection speeds or things there (a topic that immediately touches the fibers).
Is that what you say sounds to me like incompatibility of the network card, everything depends on the IP, if it is dynamic or static, each one needs its configuration.
Upgrade? Do you use Debian Stable or Testing? If you use testing I'm not worth the excuse (I understand it's rolling or something like that), also KZKG ^ Gaara will have been able to update Arch Linux ... If not, it doesn't make sense, that's true.
And man don't be mad
The Ubunto font I always copy to other distros, I think now I have it in Arch
Jo Simón, as I said there are very good guides for these distributions, with telling you that without leaving the archwiki you leave your archlinux as you want.
a photo of mine in full Spanish. http://www.imagengratis.org/images/pantallazcl2pc.png
There are several configuration files that you have to touch to leave it in Castilian / Spanish.
/etc/rc.conf
/etc/locale.gen
in /etc/rc.conf
on the line that it says
LOCALE = »en_US.utf8 ″ you leave it LOCALE =» es_VE.utf8 ″ in my case because I am from Venezuela, and you will see what country you have and you put it.
TIMEZONE = »America / Caracas» (this is one of the first things when you put the cd to install, after choosing the keymap and selecting the installation medium, you have to enter the timezone.
KEYMAP = »la-latin1 ″ (this is the first thing when installing with the km command) in my case la-latin1, for Latin American Spanish keyboard.
in /etc/local.gen
Well, comment on the one that is uncommented by default, which is United States English.
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 >>> # en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
en_US ISO-8859-1 >>> #en_US ISO-8859-1
# is_VE.UTF-8 UTF-8 >>> is_VE.UTF-8 UTF-8
#es_VE ISO-8859-1 >>> es_VE ISO-8859-1
in your case by the local of your country. With that done before installing in desktop environment, when installing it is generated with those premises, if you do not do it before you have to generate the premises.
It is not with an interface that you are going to change and generate locale, but it is done once, and it will take a long time, for you to reinstall because it is rolling release. I almost know how to install the entire memory system, I only forget the command to create my user with all the groups I use, but I have it written on the wall hahaha.
Man, well, you would do me a great favor if you could tell me how to get gnome to work again - I enter with kdm - and configure a graphical input to the system with kdm or another - ..
Now when I fiddle with it I enter with Kde or Xfce, I install them all as it is my test / backup installation.
I have an ATI on arch with gallium and it is AMD64.
I already reinstalled it and nothing, at the moment I am waiting for the next release of the 3.2 non-beta, it will not be silly.
3.2 is no longer beta, it is "officially stable".
Fuck!!! Get excited and make a guide and we publish it here in <° Linux hehehe
Come on, gentoo as arch have very good guides, to the letter there is no loss. Gentoo's problem is time. Although there are also pre-compiled packages. But what a joke having it and not compiling your applications yourself. hahaha when I used it, I had just the basics installed (some laziness).
I have been using GNU / Linux for a long time and generally, I need something that works for me and that I can have ready in the shortest possible time. If I saw myself compiling so much and wasting so much time, I think I would hang myself with the network cable 😀
I agree.
Is that just wasting time compiling everything you need to work, or simply using a stable system makes you an advanced user, I'll just say meh!
Well, I have LMDE - very happy with it - and I'm fighting with an Arch - I always like to have two in case some «hull»
Sabayon, which I also tried - like many others - goes to the movies and is Gentoo "for lazy" by carrying precompiled packages, much easier to install than Arch. And costs much less time.
For me, the great advantage of Arch is that from sources you can install almost anything with the yaourt -S program, which I used to install chrome from its deb package and it goes to cinemas. In addition to having the most modern package versions.
Its great disadvantage is the lack of templates in its installer that pre-select a group of packages and leave the equipment running with a graphical environment / s.
Preselection that to keep the arch spirit in the next step can be modified.
Now I have to log in as root in text mode and run kdm, I don't know why the hell the Gnome doesn't work for me - it was at the beginning - and I'm in those.
If a language and keyboard configurator were also added to the installer - it has to be done by hand - it would improve a lot in my opinion.
Anyway, an Easy Arch is missing - there is an unofficial Live CD, but no installer -
I also had to set the sound by hand.
And the packagekit - graphical program installer, does not work very well, sometimes it does not start, according to the GDI.
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When you start the computer, it does not raise the xorg, but it stays in a console, and there you have to manually raise KDM / GDM ???
Another much less complicated Arch option is Chakra Project 😉
Yes, but Chakra is not KISS, apart from the fact that it has been far from Arch for a long time
The KDM and GDM thing, well man, you have to put it in demons and also put dbus
Well, it's not that I was bored with those from Africa but because of the mistakes. On the other hand, I got scared with Arch's unsigned packages and tried Gentoo, it was to put a line and go from installing it. Then I tried Sabayon but it ran bad, then Arch and until now
@elav: The installation is not so much, at least in Arch (you have tried it)
Come on colleague, in Arch installation is a pain in the ass too, why the hell don't they make it a more pleasant interface? And of the particioando so that I tell you. In other words, an experienced user does not go through a lot of work, but a new one ... goes through more work than a flea on a plastic dog.
Then it loses all grace and they would have to put things in you (installer, environments ...) instead of installing everything from scratch and without putting things that you do not use
I have used the entire disk, and anyway it was more difficult before with Fdisk, now it is not like that
The installation is very easy, the interface is pleasant, or are you going to say that the console is not pleasant, the partitioning is the same as anywhere, only. There is a very extensive and detailed guide to installing archlinux for newbies. and it works for everyone. And the best that you install the system as you please, without so many demons or applications that you do not need.
look at the /etc/rc.conf:
http://paste.desdelinux.net/paste/5
1 module and 5 demons and everything I need working, rather with all the applications that an average user uses, less a printer that I do not have on this computer)
Hi friend,
I have taken the dare to edit your comment, I just removed the code from your rc.conf and I put it in our paste service (http://paste.desdelinux.net). I did this because many users do not like reading comments with so much code, they prefer to focus on user opinions, and if they want to read the rc.conf code there is the link (I.e.
I hope it doesn't bother you.
The Arch installation problem is very simple ... it is too complex for a user who is used to installing LMDE, Mandriva and Ubuntu, it seems like complete hell HAHAHA, I tell you because until I installed it about 4 or 5 times, I did not lose my respect HAHAHAHA.
Regarding the customization completely in accordance, it is incredible what can be configured only by editing a file (/etc/rc.conf), there we configure the network and then we can do without an applet that manages our network, we configure the daemons and everything , it's brilliant, this is why I prefer ArchLinux *-*
By the way, the console is so enjoyable that if you have already configured the network you install "links" or "elinks" and open another console and you can go checking the online guide while you install, or you can go to google and do the search if you have problems with something, and you don't need to be Einstein, or have a doctorate or master's degree in anything, just reading the guide and a little common sense is installed, although there is always human error.
Right now there is a problem with the nvidia cards (the one I use) and the xorg-server 1.11.1 from the testing repository, but I think the xorg bug was fixed, but there is a problem with the proprietary drivers, I don't know very well what Everything goes, but if a new user enables the repo testing and has a nvidia, the most likely thing is that it is not well documented before installing and then it gives the error, the fault lies with archlinux because it is difficult again. Surely it doesn't even go to /etc/pacman.conf, comment on the testing repo and throw a pacman -Syuu, or just ignore the xorg-server so that it doesn't update, it's enough without stopping testing the testing repository.
JAJAJAJAJA smooth partner, not all of them are advanced users, remember that there are users that if you don't put the Ubuntu Software Center and open Synaptic, they get lost 😉
Come on that according to our monthly census, you are our troll # 2 HAHAHAHA !!!!
Hahaha well, let the Courage get the batteries or I'll pass it 😀
With the soft thing, if archlinux / gentoo you use it to learn, not for convenience, but once you get to know them they are even more comfortable than the distros (for human beings), you don't have to be installing a new version every 6 months, you have good control of your system and the current software, of course, like everything, they have their pros and cons. But you don't have to be a genius, to install it and little by little you learn as you go, by trial and error and read. You don't even realize you know the commands and the configuration files and when you see it, it's not that you're a fucking advanced user, but you deal with almost all of them if not all the problems that the distro can give you and also what You learn it works, for most other distros, although with some changes between distros in the configuration files, that it's a matter of figuring out how they differ before you start playing.
You will see is that I have almost nothing, if I use the computer for the internet, nothing else, sometime to edit a photo but for nothing else.
Nor do I have much idea of the files, I know what is in each one and what it is for but not much else, nor do I know all the Pacman commands.
Computer science is not for me, that is clear, when one thing does not happen to me, another happens to me ...
I recommend you probeis UTOPIA, a distro in Spanish with GNOME 2.x and E17, based on slackware and slamd64, it has versions in 32 and 64 bits (it occupies 1.5gb's ~)
We are looking for people who want to help / collaborate:
More at: utopia.freeforums.eu (sorry for the spam)
Don't worry, if the moderators don't bother me less 🙂
and more when the distro is based on one of the veterans ... slackware ... his name alone scares me = x in my opinion it is more complex than arch.
Good luck recruiting!