[HUMOR… ko ba haka ba] Docking Inits in Debian: Muhawarar Zabe (Kashi na 1)

Wannan sakon yana da girma sosai wanda dole ne nayi shi kashi biyu (uku idan rikici ya faru daga baya). Ina yin irin wannan waƙar zuwa matsayi na muhawarar ƙwallon ƙafa kan zaɓin init, amma a wannan lokacin zan yi wa shirin za ~ en TV wasa inda aka rufe za ~ en tun daga lokacin da aka buɗe da'irorin har sai an bincika sakamakon. 

'Yan uwa barkanmu da safiya. Barka da zuwa wannan ranar zaben wanda ke faruwa a duniya a cikin waɗannan makonni biyu daga 5 zuwa 18 ga Nuwamba. Kamar yadda aka sanar a cikin Oktoba 16 da ta gabata: An yi amfani da ƙuduri tsakanin manyan masu haɓaka aikin don yanke shawara game da shigar da kaya. Za mu kasance tare da kasancewar 'yan Digiri Oscar Bacon da Eduardo Dvorak daga kamfanin CypherFacts wanda zai yi mana zurfin zurfin bayani game da zaben kuma tare da wadanda za mu yi nazarin bayanan sakamakon, da wayoyin salula masu rajistar ranar zaben, da na DJ Palega Rupenian tare da matsayinsa na jingles don raya ranar. A wannan lokacin muna cikin tuntuɓar wayar mu ta hannu Gabriela Cantero. Gabriela yayi gaba.

Ina kwana Gonzalo, muna cikin gidan gahawa na Intanet na Shopping Tres Cruces inda muke jiran isowar mai jefa ƙuri'a. A yanzu muna da mutanen da ke amfani da Facebook, wasu kuma da ke buƙatar kwafin takaddun da aka yi akan injinansu. Babu wani abu daga cikin talakawa.

To, na gode Gabriela. Mun ci gaba daga Cibiyar Desdelinux na Labarai kuma muna tare da Mista Oscar Bacon da Mista Eduardo Dvorak. Kwanaki masu kyau.

Lafiya kuwa? Barka da Safiya.

(Eduardo ya ce ina kwana da amfani da yaren kurame. Yana fama da cutar kutsawa, amma hakan ba zai hana shi kasancewa ƙwararren mai iya sadarwa ba)

Ina so ku gabatar da masu kallo abin da wannan kuri'ar ta kunsa. Fara muku Oscar.

Abin farin ciki. A lokacin kaka da hunturu, Kwamitin Fasaha na Debian bayan doguwar muhawara mai zafi yanke shawara tam cewa systemd zai zama tsoho init na Jessie version hakan zai fito wannan 2015. Wannan ya haifar da abubuwa biyu. Na farko shi ne cewa jerin adiresoshin an cika su da bayanan da mutane suka yi wanda ya saba wa shawarar Kwamitin Fasaha. Daga wannan ƙa'idar aiki don kafofin watsa labaru sun sami amincewar gaba ɗaya. Abu na biyu shine babban motsi don ƙuduri wanda Matthew Vernon yayi don adana zaɓin mai amfani don shigar da init. A wancan lokacin wannan shawarar ba ta da isasshen tallafi saboda haka Matiyu ya janye ta. Watanni suka shude, ruwan ya lafa sannan ya sake zama laka, Ian Jackson ya sake yin wannan shawarar kuma a wannan lokacin yana da isasshen tallafi don kira ga ƙuduri na gaba ɗaya.

(Gonzalo ya gaya wa Eduardo cewa Ian Jackson ya yi matukar fushi da shawarar da Kwamitin Fasaha ya yanke.)

(Eduardo ya ce Ian Jackson ya haɗu da fushin, kodayake ya bayyana cewa ba saboda zaɓin tsarin ba, amma saboda shi ta gabatar da ƙuri'a inda za'a kuma zaɓa idan ana buƙatar takamaiman abin aiki. Wannan zaɓen yana da zaɓuɓɓuka 10, an zaɓi init ta hanyar tsoho kuma idan an buƙaci takamaiman wurin aiki, yanke hukunci yana da wahala kuma hakan yasa bashi da hankali sosai. A nan ne fushinsu ya tashi kuma da yawa suka ce Ian ya yi ƙoƙari ya ɓata shawarar.)

Godiya ga Eduardo. Don haka, menene ya faru kafin babu tallafi kuma yanzu akwai?

Abin da ya faru shi ne cewa a wancan lokacin ƙwararrun masu haɓaka waɗanda suka goyi bayan ƙudurin ba su gano game da shawarar ba. A zahiri an gabatar da shawarar ta hanyar tattaunawa game da tsari bayan shawarar kwamitin fasaha. Watanni daga baya a cikin Yuli, an shigar da tsarin "shiru" a kan kwamfutoci a cikin gwaji da kuma rassa, masu lalata tsarin sun fara samun ƙarfi, sun sanya kauracewar makamai kuma har ma sun kirkiro cokali mai yatsu. A ranar 13 ga Oktoba, wannan sakon ya farfado da tunanin kuduri, kuma kodayake an kirga shi tare da wasu 'yan adawa me yace cewa ya yi latti don waɗannan abubuwa, Ian Jackson ya nuna goyon bayan sa yana cewa idan wannan karon ya tara goyon baya sosai, Zan gabatar da wannan shawarar. A cikin kwanaki 3 ya sami abin da ya fi ƙarfinsa.

(Gonzalo ya gaya wa Eduardo ya faɗi game da zaɓuɓɓukan zaɓen.)

(Eduardo yace akwai hanyoyi 5 da zasu gabatar. Na farko wanda Ian Jackson ya gabatar kuma yana ba da shawarar cewa fakiti gabaɗaya bazai buƙaci takamaiman hanyar da ke gudana azaman pid 1 ba, ban da sauran hanyoyin shiga, fakitoci masu amfani na musamman kamar masu gudanar da aiki, da ƙungiyoyin kunshin haɗin kai waɗanda suke don amfani da takamaiman tsari Na biyun Shugaban da kansa Lucas Nussbaum ne ya gabatar da shi inda suke ba da shawarar tallafawa abubuwa da yawa don gine-ginen da ke tallafawa, amma cewa irin wannan tallafin bai kamata ya zama tilas ba. Wannan yana nufin cewa idan tsarin ba ya aiki a kan gine-gine, ba za a tilasta shi yin aiki da shi ba, amma idan yana aiki, ana iya tallafawa tare da duk wani aikin da ke aiki a kan ginin. Zabi na uku Luca Falavigna ne ya gabatar da shi kuma ya gabatar da cewa fakitin SI na iya buƙatar takamaiman hanyar da ke gudana azaman pid 1, idan masu kula da waɗancan fakitin suka yanke shawarar yin hakan. Na huɗu, wanda Charles Plessy ya gabatar yayi la'akari da cewa irin wannan shawarar bata buƙatar babban ƙuduri. Kuma a ƙarshe, zaɓi na 5 shine Babban Zaɓin Tattaunawa, wanda shine zaɓin tsoho kuma abin da yake aikatawa shine yanke shawara.)

Abin farin ciki Oscar da Eduardo. Zamu dawo gareku anjima. A wannan lokacin muna cikin tuntuɓar Ramón Clericó wanda ke tare da Ian Jackson. Ci gaba Ramón.

Buenos dias. Muna cikin Cambrigde, Ingila, tare da ɗayan mahimman mutane a Debian: mai haɓaka dpkg, tsohon shugaba kuma memba na kwamitin fasaha Ian Jackson. (Sauran tattaunawar da Turanci ne) Yaya kuke?

Madalla da godiya.

Shin kun yi zabe ne kawai?

Ee

Menene ra'ayin ku a wannan ranar zaben?

Wanne kamar sauran ranakun jefa kuri'a don Babban Shawara. Duk ranakun kansu shiru suke, ba tare da la'akari da batun ba. Kowace shekara akwai akalla guda ɗaya wanda shine zaɓin jagora, kuma wani lokaci akan sami wasu akan al'amuran da suke buƙatar irin wannan ƙuri'ar.

Kuna tsammanin ƙudurin zai kasance mai dacewa don rashin buƙatar takamaiman tsari?

Ina da kyakkyawan fata, musamman saboda irin gagarumar goyon bayan da kira ga babban kuduri ya samu a 'yan kwanakin nan. Hakanan, akwai wasu hukunce-hukuncen masu amfani waɗanda yakamata a girmama su yayin haɓaka injinansu daga ɗayan fasalin zuwa wani. Ofayan su shine zaɓin yanayin tebur ɗinka (ɗayan baya zuwa daga Debian Wheezy tare da Gnome zuwa Debian Jessie tare da KDE ta atomatik) kuma wani yana ganin ni cewa ya kamata zaɓi na init.

Me kuke tunani game da dakatar da Upstart a Ubuntu, bayan shawarar kwamitin? Kun nuna goyon baya ga wannan tsarin a cikin wannan kuri'ar.

Da kyau, abin kunya ne cewa kwatsam aka daina shi haka kuma kawai sai shawararmu. Upstart ya kasance tun daga sigar 6.10 yayin da muke amfani da sysvinit a cikin Debian, don haka nayi mamakin shawarar Mark. Na yi jayayya da dalilai masu kyau na fasaha don zaɓar farawa kamar yadda aka fara amfani dashi, amma sai dai Rus Allbery (wanda yayi jayayya da dalilai na fasaha amma kuma ya goyi bayan tsarin), sauran waɗanda suka yi adawa da upstart sun fi mai da hankali kan Yarjejeniyar Gudummawar Canonical fiye da dalilai na fasaha. Amma dai. Na daina aiki a Canonical tsawon shekara ɗaya da rabi, kafin a yanke shawarar duk wannan.

Menene tasirin Debian Jessie zai yi idan aka sake shi?

Duk fitowar ingantattun sifofin Debian abin birgewa ne. Abinda ya faru shine kwanan nan tasirin yayi yawa ga mai amfani da tebur. A cikin Wheezy mun sami ƙaura daga Gnome 2 zuwa Gnome 3. A cikin matsi kernel ya zo ba tare da ɗamara ba (waɗanda aka tura zuwa wuraren da ba a kyauta ba) Hakanan yana taimaka mana mu saki ingantaccen sigar kowane shekara 2. Hakanan, Debian yana fitar da tsayayyen sigar lokacin da bayan sanyayawar gwaji babu kwari RC masu jiran aiki. Idan Red Hat yayi aiki tuƙuru don ci gaba da rarraba kasuwancinsa, ba za a bar mu a baya ba.

Na gode sosai Ian. Abin farin ciki.

Marabanku.

(Idan muka koma magana a cikin Sifaniyanci) Mun koma cibiyar.

Yayi kyau Ramón. Mun ci gaba zuwa kiɗa tare da Palega Rupenian.

Shalalala, Shalalala, Shalalala, yaya kuke? Heheeeeee. Na kawo muku jingles totem na wannan yakin Debian. Emaya don kiyaye ku sosai a cikin waɗannan makonni biyu. Waƙar raira waƙa da farin ciki Emididdigar da ta fi jimla ita ce ta goma. Farawa daga lamba 10, muna da jingle tare da ƙara yaduwa amma raunin kunne mai ƙarfi wanda Catastro Farina ya rubuta, can kuna zuwa.

(Shi ne kiɗan «Kumburin Clemente«, Amma wasiƙar sa ta ce« Dole ne ku canza yanayin da ke da Debian. Sysvinit daga lokacin kaka ce, babu shafuka kuma babu intanet. Zaɓi zaɓi uku kuma fita daga orsai. »)

Abin da nake so shine sautin ƙwallon ƙafa wanda dole ne jingle ya sami yanzu tunda ƙwallon ƙafa yayi kyau. A matsayi na lamba 9 muna da wannan rarity wanda Maduro Dameduro ya rubuta.

(Shi ne kiɗan wannan jingle daga 1001, wanda mai sharhin na Uruguay Darwin Desbocatti ya ayyana a matsayin "wanda ya haɗu da 'yan gurguzu Roberto Giordano." Rubutun hannunsa ya ce "Kyauta. Ci gaba. Nasarori. Abin da ya ɓace Masu amfani. Bari mu ci gaba. Gwaji. Nan gaba. Debianists zaɓaɓɓu zaɓi biyu zai ƙarfafa freedomancin wannan mashahuri Software na kyauta. Debianists zaɓaɓɓu zaɓi biyu zasu ƙarfafa freedomancin wannan Software na Kyauta wanda ke haɓaka loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

(A natse) Abin da ban tsoro ba. Ban san yadda kowa zai iya son hakan ba. (Ya fahimci cewa yana cikin iska) OOOOOOOOOH Abin da ya dace da jingle ga pachanga debianera. Muna ci gaba da matsayi na lamba 8 da ɗan uwan ​​Maduro, Pedro Dalesduro ya yi.

(Jawabi ne mai ban tsoro na fim, kwatankwacin wannan talla na Pacheco. Jawabin ya ce “Zabi na daya shi ne daidaito, maganin rigakafin cuta, gaskiya. Zabi na farko shine 'yanci, tsaron sysadmins, shinge akan Poetterization. Zabi na daya shine hakikanin zabi kuma zabin daya zai cika kamar yadda yake koyaushe. »)

Flattenerrrr. Kamar yadda lambar lamba 7 ta 'Yan Matan Perarna take.

(Wannan bidiyon. Sun ce suna goyon bayan zaɓi 2.)

Kuma a matsayi na lamba 6, rashin daidaituwa da Juan Fogata ya yi.

(Waƙar CCR ta "Bad Moon Rising", aka "Brazil, gaya mani yadda kuke ji." Kalmomin sa suna cewa "Hudu, shine zaɓin da na zaɓa. Hudu, kamar yadda wannan ya riga ya nuna. Babu ƙuduri da ya zama dole. Zaɓi huɗu Na zabi. »)

Nan gaba zamu dawo tare da tofai. Mafi kyawun jingles na kamfen. Heheeeeeeeeeeeeeeey.

Wannan Palega mai fara'a. Mun dawo tare da wayar hannu Gabriela Cantero. Gabriela yayi gaba.

Barkanku da sake, labarai masu ban tausayi sun shigo. Maza biyu sun mutu sakamakon hatsarin gini. Suna cikin rubutun a rubuce tare da rubutun 'FUCK SYSTEM' wanda ba a kammala ba a bangon wani wurin gini lokacin da katako ya fado musu. Har yanzu ba a gano wadanda abin ya shafa ba, kuma ba a san ko su masu adawa ne ko masu adawa da tsarin ba. Muna fatan fadadawa.

Na gode sosai Gabriela. Za mu dakata kuma a ranar 19, sashi na biyu na wannan sakon zai zo tare da hanyar jefa ƙuri'a, ƙarin tambayoyi, manyan abubuwa biyar na jingles da sakamakon da ake tsammani. Na gode sosai Masu karatu.


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  1.   bert m

    WANNAN SADAUKARWA NE DAGA ADMINISTRATORS NA DEBIAN:

    Mu tsofaffin ma'aikata ne masu kula da tsarin UNIX kuma muna matukar damuwa da abin da ke faruwa tare da Debian GNU / Linux, har zuwa yanzu muna tunanin la'akari da shi. Wasu daga cikin mu masu tasowa ne na asali wasu kuma daga cikin mu masu kula da tsarin ƙwararru ne, amma dukkan mu muna damuwa da waɗanda suke hulɗa da Debian da dangin ta a rayuwar su ta yau da kullun. Ba mu so a tilasta mana mu yi amfani da tsarin maimakon na al'ada UNIX sysvinit init yayin da muke la'akari da cewa tsarin ya ci amanar falsafar Linux.

    Muna tunanin ɗaukar wasu hanyoyi don sysvinit, amma ba yadda za a yi, waɗanda ke lalata mahimman ƙa'idodin tunanin aikin: 'Yi abu ɗaya ka yi shi da kyau'. Ba mu son maye gurbin sysvinit tare da hadaddun rukunin binaries masu karfi da rijista wadanda ba su da gaskiya ”

    Muna iya tabbatar maku cewa babu wani daga cikin mu da yake tumaki kuma idan tsari ya canza sysvinit, za mu nemi Debian da kuma kirkirar sabon rarraba. Muna fatan wannan ba zai zama dole ba amma mun shirya.

    1.    diazepam m

      Idan lokacin da na jefa kuri'a na rasa shi, nan da nan na kasance kullun.
      Amma da kyau sun kara kaifata don kawar da mulkin kama karya.

      Jorge Lazaroff - Mutane da yawa

    2.    SynFlag m

      Ku zo kan Debian, ban taɓa son shi ba amma akan wannan bankin ne, ba kamar masu tsotar ɗakunan CentOS waɗanda aka siyar don albashi daga redhat ba.

      1.    Facu m

        Me yasa kace an siyar dasu ne don su sake?

  2.   asali m

    Hahahaha! .. ..EPIC! ..

  3.   ratkill m

    lol

  4.   Tsakar Gida m

    Ina ganin mafi kyawun abin da ƙungiyar Debian za ta iya yi shi ne aiwatar da wutar gas (ko wuta, wuta, tinderbox, duk abin da suka kira shi a ƙasashensu) don mashigar wannan yanayin. 😆

    1.    Sylvia m

      Na yarda gaba daya: v

  5.   Aren m

    Mai launi! tsarin vs Sysvinit Linux Cheatsheet

    Taswirar da ke nuna fa'idodi da rashin amfanin duka tsarin da sysvnit. Muhawara mai zafi ta waɗannan mutanen da ke kare waɗannan dokokin, idan ka karanta majalisun da suke Turanci za ka fahimci cewa akwai wani abu kuma da aka tsara kuma ba kyau ga ɓangaren mutane.

    LINK:
    http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/

  6.   Azureus m

    Menene game da slackware? Ina tsammanin har yanzu kuna amfani da sysvinit kuma ba tsari ba.
    Wadanda har yanzu suke amfani da sysvinit dole ne a jefa su cikin saukarwa.
    Shakka Shin zai yiwu a koma daga tsarin zuwa sysvinit? Zai yi min aiki da yawa a baka ko a cikin wasu. Ina tsammanin (ban tabbata ba) cewa har yanzu suna amfani da baka don Pi Ina tsammanin sun riga sun yi amfani da shi, duk da haka.

    1.    ƙũra m

      slackwre baya amfani da sysVinit. yi amfani da asalin unix init wanda yake shine nau'ikan BSD kamar guda daya .rc rubutun

      Idan kuna son ambaliyar waɗanda suke amfani da systVinit tare da zazzagewa, to lallai ne kuyi kallo da yawa saboda babu

      zabin ka shine ubuntu tare da farawa har zuwa fasali na gaba {akan hakan zaiyi amfani da tsari da kuma gentoo wanda ke amfani da budeRC

      kowa da kowa yana amfani da tsarin ciki har da SUSE da ARCH har ma da mandriva / mageia suna amfani da shi.

  7.   SynFlag m

    Ina gayyatarku ku shiga da kuma yada ra'ayin, akan sabobin ba tare da tsari ba.

    http://hackingthesystem4fun.blogspot.com/2014/11/un-fork-de-debian-me-siento-un-poco-mas.html

  8.   rolo m

    Yaya ban sha'awa, duk maganganun anti system da mutane basa amfani da debian. fiye da anti systemd suna adawa da debian

  9.   Sylvia m

    Yayi kyau kwarai da gaske. Nayi dariya sosai.