Manuel de la Fuente ya riga yayi magana game da nawa cin abinci kamar yadda Manjaro Sun bar Cinnamon kuma duk saboda dalilai da yawa:
1) Zuwan GNOME 3.8 zuwa Arch
2) Kirfa ba a aika ta zuwa GTK 3.6 ba
3) Rashin jituwa tsakanin nau'ikan GTK daban-daban.
A kan kirfa github akwai tattaunawa game da jinkirin saurin aikin kuma can Clem ya bar saƙonni 2 da ke amsa tambayoyi.
A farkon su ya bayyana a fili cewa Kirfa ba a ƙirƙira ta azaman aikin Mint na daban ba, cewa ba ta gasa don zama mafi amfani da muhalli, cewa Cinnamon ba shine burin kanta ba amma ɓangare ne na (ƙwarewar mai amfani a Linux Mint). Matsalar da Kirfa take da ita ita ce ta rashin sadarwa (kusan IRC ce gaba ɗaya) tsakanin masu haɓaka 10 "amintattu" (Amintacce ta yadda za ku iya tabbatar da cewa buƙatunsu na jan hankali an rubuta su da kyau kuma an gwada su da kyau) kuma yana ɗaukar lokaci kafin a tabbatar wannan amanar.
Ya kuma fahimci damuwar masu ci gaba kuma idan ta kasance ba ta da alaƙa da Mint zai iya haɓaka da sauri amma yana tunatar da su cewa suna mai da hankali ne kawai ga wani ɓangare na aikin kuma ba komai ba. GNOME shine kawai misalin wannan rukunin masu haɓakawa.
Amma mafi mahimmanci shine a cikin sharhi na biyu, wanda yake magana game da Cinnarch. Na fara faɗi:
Game da Cinnarch, Fedora kuma wataƙila Debian mummunan labari ne ga masu amfani da waɗancan rarrabuwa. Kodayake babban abin da ke damuna shi ne sanya masu amfani da Mint farin ciki, samar da Cinnamon ga dukkanin al'ummar Linux abu ne mai mahimmanci a wurina kuma ina tsammanin mun cimma burinmu da wannan. Ba na jin daɗi a gare su, amma mutane dole ne su fahimci alaƙar da ke tsakanin GNOME / GTK da yanayin halittarta (wanda cinnamon ɗin wani ɓangare ne) da gaskiyar cewa masu haɓaka GNOME / GTK ba su damu da daidaito na baya ba. Ba za su iya tsammanin Kirfa ya dace da sabon GNOME / GTK na minti ɗaya da ya fito ba, musamman idan gyara abubuwan da suka haifar da hakan yana nufin rasa daidaituwa da nau'ikan GNOME / GTK da muke tallafawa (GNOME / GTK 3.4 jituwa ce a gare mu saboda mun himmatu wajen kawo sabbin sigar na Kirfa zuwa Mint 13 LTS misali). Hankalinmu yana kan 3.6 saboda shine sigar da muke amfani da ita kuma zamu ci gaba da amfani da ita har tsawon watanni 6. Muna karɓar buƙatun Fedora da faci don gyara muffin da kirfa don gtk 3.7 / 3.8 kuma muna da sha'awar haɗe su. Lokacin da rarrabawa ya sabunta GNOME / GTK, mafi yawan lokuta, yakan karya jigogin GTK3, ya karya Cinnamon, kuma ya fasa wasu aikace-aikacen GTK3. Wancan ne saboda GNOME / GTK suna haɓaka bidi'a da ƙarfi kuma basa ɗaukar mahimmancin halittunsu da mahimmanci don tabbatar da daidaituwa ta baya. Wannan wani abu ne da yakamata rarraba suyi tunani game da lokacin da ya haɗa da GNOME / GTK na yanzu kafin ɓangarorin yanayin halittun su waɗanda ke tallafawa. Yanzu, tallafi ga GTK3.8 a cikin Kirfa Fedora ke buƙata kuma muna sha'awar samun ta, amma abin da ke haifar da ita shine Fedora. Yana taimaka mana mu ma, wannan yana nufin yawancin mutane suna amfani da Kirfa, yawancin masu haɓaka (wasu suna amfani da Fedora) da kuma samfoti na abin da zai zo (GTK3.8) a gare mu akan Ubuntu / Mint. Don haka kowa yana sha'awar Cinnamon yana da goyan baya ga GTK3.8 ... amma yana da mahimmanci a fahimci cewa wannan wani abu ne da masu amfani da Fedora da GTK3.8 suka kula da shi, ana biyan ni aiki a Mint, wani ɓangare na wannan yana nufin yin mafi kyau na ga Kirfa ya zama mai girma kuma GTK3.8 wani abu ne da zan fuskanta cikin watanni 6. Muna da matsala iri ɗaya a Fedora .. masu ba da cikakken lokaci a can ba a biya su aiki a Cinnamon ba. Don haka a game da Cinnarch, ban tabbata cewa masu kula sun fahimci halin da ake ciki ba sosai dangane da daidaituwa tsakanin Cinnamon da GNOME / GTK, abin da nake nufi shi ne cewa dukkanmu muna son Kirfa ta tallafawa dukkan nau'ikan GTK, GNOME shi baya sauƙaƙa shi, kuma babu wanda za a biya (ya zama Mint, Cinnarch ko Fedora) don sanya shi fifiko. Abin da ya faru a Fedora, kuma abin da muke yi a Mint, kuma ina fata Cinnarch zai iya yin hakan, ya daskare abubuwan sabuntawa waɗanda ke haifar da koma baya kuma idan hakan ba zai yiwu ba kuma ba a haɗa gudummawar da ke sama ba, muna facfa software . Leigh ya kasance mai aiki sosai akan Cinnamon akan Fedora, ba wai kawai yana aiko mana da buƙatun buƙata ba amma har ma yana ɗanɗana Cinnamon don yin aiki sosai akan Fedora. Wataƙila lamari ne ga masu kula da hargitsi waɗanda za su iya tuntuɓarmu cikin sauƙi kuma wataƙila a cikin wannan taron mako-mako za mu taimaka. Ina jin daɗi cewa akwai Kirfa ga masu amfani Fedora, Arch da Debian kuma suna da Kirfa da rarrabawa don yi musu godiya. Akwai wani alhaki da ya hau kan dukkan ɓangarorin biyu musamman a rarrabawar da aka ƙaddamar don kawo sabon GNOME / GTK ba tare da bata lokaci ba kuma ba tare da la'akari da koma baya da ke faruwa ba. Ba ni da wata shakka cewa Cinnamon zai gudana daidai a kan GTK 3.8, yana daga cikin aikina don tabbatar da irin abin da ya faru ga Mint 16, har zuwa wannan lokacin na fi farin ciki da taimaka wa duk wanda ya karɓi wannan don wanda goyon bayan yake da mahimmanci .
Duk da haka. Zana abubuwan da za ku yanke shawara.
Yayi kyau ga samarin Fedora, koyaushe suna ba da gudummawa ga wannan duniyar Linux.
+1, idan Kirfa ya sami daidaituwa ta GNOME 3.8 gabanin lokacin aiki zai zama babban godiya garesu.
Inda GNOME bai ba da komai ba game da rushewa kuma Mint ba ta iya kulawa da gyara, Fedora ta zo don taimakawa.
Akwai wani rukuni a cikin Fedora wanda ke turawa don sanya Kirfa a matsayin tsoho tebur. Ban sani ba ko zai kasance a cikin F19, amma ya tabbata cewa mutanen RedHat suna jan kunnuwansu don Gnome-Shell, tunda ba zai zama kamar tebur ba, a ce, kasuwanci, wanda ya sha bamban da na kowa kuma mai amfani da daji.
Shin kun ga wannan?
http://kuboosoft.blogspot.com.ar/2013/04/andrew-wyatt-se-retira-de-fuduntu-y.html
an riga an yi sabon shiga
https://blog.desdelinux.net/rip-fuduntu/
Lokacin amfani da distros kamar Fedora, Debian, nayi farin ciki da amfani da distro wanda ke tallafawa software kyauta, kuma abin da nafi so game da Fedora shine ƙirar da yake kawowa Linux gabaɗaya.
Yanzu ina amfani da distro wanda yake aiki sosai, amma amfani dashi yana sama da ruhin software kyauta, bari muga idan na sake shigar da Fedora don yin rahoton kwari.
Na gwada kuma nayi kokarin, musamman ma "popus", koyaushe ina komawa Fedora a matsayin dan bata gari… .. Sabbin fasalinsu daga murhu abun kunya ne, amma bayan wata daya, wata daya da rabi, babu abinda zan bayar su.
gaisuwa
Na yi matukar farin ciki da Debian Stable, tunda ba ku da wata matsala game da sabuntawa (waɗanda ke da cikakkun bayanai, a kan hanya), kuma ƙarfinsa yana tabbatar da cewa bayananku ba za su ɓace ba saboda ƙarancin haske ko kuma za ku jefa ma'aikata kuskuren tsoho (kamar Ubuntu).
Ina so in gwada sauran abubuwan da suka daidaita kamar Slackware da CentOS, saboda ingancin kwalliyar su, ban da jin daɗin yawancin masu amfani waɗanda suka dage kan inganta shi daga kwaya kuma ana iya girka su ta yadda kuke so (don haka sai dai a cikin slackware kuna da zaɓi don girka shi cikin salon Archlinux).
A yanzu, zan kasance tare da Debian Squeeze kuma Wheezy ya daidaita, saboda yana kama da zai zo da sabbin abubuwa game da dakunan karatu.
Daga abin da na karanta a dandamali daban-daban, CentOS dutse ne.
Hakan daidai ne, kuma idan ba a nutsar da ku a cikin kwayar cutar mai saurin gaske ba, rarrabawa ce da za ku yi amfani da ita ba tare da gajiya ba kuma ba tare da damuwa da komai ba har zuwa 2020 (6.4). Ko kuma aƙalla har sai an buga sigar 7, wanda zai dace da sigar 7 na RedHat, azaman kyakkyawan clone na jar hular da take.
A nan, @petercheco, yayi kyakkyawar koyarwa don girka shi a kan kwamfutar tafi-da-gidanka, a nan: https://blog.desdelinux.net/centos-6-4-disponible-como-configurarlo/
Ina tsammani kowane yanayi na tebur zai iya shigarwa.
@elendilnarsil: Kuma ba zai zama ba. Gnome 2.x da KDE 3.4.3 kawai. Batun kwanciyar hankali na Centos kamar haka ne, ba abin da zai karya komai tare da sauran mahalli. Tare da masu goyon baya a ServOS, wanda ya dogara da Centos, muna ƙoƙarin saka KDE na zamani, amma hakan bai yiwu ba saboda dogaro da sauran bayanai.
Godiya ga ambaton 😀
@petercheco: ba komai, idan abubuwa sun daidaita dole ne ka basu shawara.
Menene banbanci lokacin da wani ya cika hannu cikin aikin yayi bayanin halin da ake ciki. Na fadi kamar wasu a cikin ruwan rawaya. Gafarar lamarin.
Gnomes zasu kori duk masu haɓaka!
Yayi kyau ga masu goyon baya: D!
Za mu ga abin da zai faru bayan wannan magana da za su yi da masu kula da abubuwan da abin ya shafa.
Na gode!
Yi hakuri da clem, amma ban taɓa son kirfa ba, Na fi son ci gaba da amfani da Linux Mint XFCE ɗin su ko don yanzu kuma tare da kyakkyawan sakamako Solydxk. 🙂
Godiya ga Clem don bayani. A bayyane yake cewa kowane "aikin" yana neman amfanin kansa. Don faɗi cewa GNOME yana da ƙa'idar haɓaka manufofi kamar ba zai yiwu ba a faɗi mafi ƙaranci. GNOME yana duba muhallin sa, kuma masu haɓaka ba sa kyauta, amma suna tafiya ne da saurin da suke buƙata. GNOME 3 ya dogara ne akan GTK 3, ba GTK 2. A bayyane yake kuma ya bayyana cewa wannan zai faru.
Kirfa ko ma Mate sakamakon sakamakon rashin hangen nesa ne na gaba. Tunanin farko yana da kyau, ba wai don samarwa talakawan masu amfani da irin wannan canjin canjin yanayin muhallin tebur ba, amma wannan ra'ayin an riga an haife shi da ranar karewa, tunda GTK 2 yana cikin yanayin "mutuwa".
Kula da dukkanin yanayin tebur yana da matukar rikitarwa, kuma wannan nau'in aikin za'a fara shi ta hanyar rarrabawa ɗaya tare da ƙaramin ƙaramin ƙungiyar… shine mafi haɗari. Sa'ar al'amarin shine, Fedora ya shigo ciki, amma ban san iya adadin wannan kokarin haɗin gwiwa zai sami makoma ba, tunda GNOME 3.8 da gaske ci gaba ne, kuma yana gyara da yawa daga cikin abubuwan da ake da'awar "kwari".
Idan mutum ya kauce daga tsattsauran ra'ayi, kuma yayi ƙoƙari ya zama ba mai nuna bambanci ba, mutum zai fahimci cewa Linux Mint ta gaji wannan babban kuskuren da Ubuntu yayi a zamaninsa, yana gaskanta cewa Unity ko Cinnamon zasu keɓance su.
A wani lokaci, tsarin halittu na Linux zai sake komawa asalinsa, kuma rabarwar da aka saba kawai za ta dawwama (Fedora, OpenSUSE, Mageia / Rosa (magadan Mandriva / Mnadrake), Debian ...), wanda koyaushe ke ba da gudummawar wani abu daban (a cikin akida , masu sauraro, software ...) da ayyukan kyauta tare da tushe mai ƙarfi (KDE, GNOMe, Wyland, ...)