ElementaryOS Opareting'i sisitimu kapena pulogalamu yowonjezera?

[Yasinthidwa mu Chingerezi]: Ndidafunsa patsamba la ZowonjezeraOS za momwe mungakhalire Marlin pa Debian osandifunsa zodalira Ubuntu mochenjera kwambiri ndidapanga lingaliro lomwe ndikuganiza lingakhale losangalatsa kwambiri.

Chifukwa ZowonjezeraOS m'malo mokhala a Njira yogwiritsira ntchito yodzaza si mtundu wina wa Nkhono o Kukwaniritsa za magawidwe omwe timagwiritsa ntchito? Kuti mumvetsetse zomwe ndikutanthauza, ndidzilongosola pang'ono.

ZowonjezeraOS ndi gulu la mapulogalamu, okhala ndi kapangidwe kocheperako kamene kamapitilira Ubuntu. Ndipo ndipamene vuto lalikulu limagona, kuti ngati sitigwiritsa ntchito kufalitsa kwa Zovomerezeka, sitidzatha kusangalala ndi zokumana nazo zathunthu zomwe timapereka ZowonjezeraOS. Chifukwa chiyani muchepetse ogwiritsa ntchito magawo ena kugwiritsa ntchito Wolemba, Maya, Marlin, Lingo, Dexter kapena ntchito iliyonse ya ZowonjezeraOS? Bwanji osasonkhanitsa mapulogalamu onsewa ndikuwapangitsa kuti asalowerere ndale, kuti safuna kudalira kulikonse? Mu Debian Mwachitsanzo, tili nazo zokha Wolemba m'malo osungira zinthu.

Chomwe chimachitika kwa ine ndikuti amayika mapulogalamu onsewa mu mtundu wa METAPACKAGE kapena padera, ndikuyika pamakina onse ngati kuti amathandizira. Mwanjira imeneyi zilibe kanthu ngati mukugwiritsa ntchito Fedora, Chipilala, Ubuntu o Debian, mutha kusangalala ndi mapulogalamu onse ndi zojambula za ZowonjezeraOS. Ngakhale magawidwe omwe timagwiritsa ntchito atha kukhala: ZowonjezeraOS. Kodi ndimadzimvetsetsa?

Mukuganiza bwanji za izi? Kodi timakumana ndikutumiza kalata kwa atsogoleri a ZowonjezeraOS ndi pempholi? 😀

Mtundu Wachingelezi.

Ndidafunsa ku ZowonjezeraOS tsamba la momwe mungakhalire Marlin mu Debian wopanda wina Ubuntu kudalira, ndipo mochenjera kwambiri ndidatulutsa lingaliro lomwe ndikuganiza kuti zingakhale zosangalatsa kwambiri.

chifukwa ZowonjezeraOS m'malo kogwiritsa ntchito kwathunthu sikungakhale mtundu wa Nkhono or Kuwonjezera za magawidwe? Ndidzifotokozera ndekha tsopano.

ZowonjezeraOS ndi phukusi la mapulogalamu omwe ali ndi kapangidwe kakang'ono kamene kamapitilira Ubuntu. Ndipo ndiye vuto lalikulu, kuti ngati sitigwiritsa ntchito Zamakono kugawa, sitingathe kusangalala ndi chidziwitso chokwanira cha ZowonjezeraOS. Chifukwa chiyani ogwiritsa ntchito magawo ena sangathe kugwiritsa ntchito Wolemba, Maya, Marlin, Lingo, Dexter kapena china chirichonse ZowonjezeraOS ntchito? Bwanji osasonkhanitsa mapulogalamu onsewa ndikuwapangitsa kuti asatenge mbali, kuti asafunikire kudalira kulikonse? Yatsani Debian Mwachitsanzo, tili ndi a Postler m'malo osungira zinthu.

Zomwe zimabwera m'maganizo mwanga ndikuti pulogalamu yonseyi imatha kuphatikizidwa KUSUNGA MALO kapena ngakhale padera, kuti athe kuyika pamakina aliwonse ngati atakhala owonjezera. Mwanjira iyi, zilibe kanthu ngati mukugwiritsa ntchito Fedora, Chipilala, Ubuntu or DebianMutha kusangalala ndi mapulogalamu onse ndi zojambula za ZowonjezeraOS. Ngakhale magawidwe omwe tikugwiritsa ntchito amathanso kukhala ZowonjezeraOS. Mukumvetsa zomwe ndikutanthauza?

Mukuganiza bwanji za izi? Bwanji osasonkhanitsa ndi kutumiza kalata kwa atsogoleri a ZowonjezeraOS ndi pempholi?


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  1.   Gabriela anati

    HOYGA ikuwoneka ngati lingaliro labwino kwambiri kwa ine. Dan Rabbit akukuwuzani pamenepo kuti kudalira kokha komwe ali nako ndi omvera ndi womasulidwa. Phunziro la momwe mungayikitsire "pulayimale" mu distro ina lingakhale labwino.

    Ps: english ya elva ndiyosangalatsa hahaha

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Juaz juaz… Si Chingerezi changa, ndi Google Translator, ndipo mundiyang'ane poyesera kuti ichite bwino momwe angathere hahahahaha .. Ndidayesa kulemba Marlin ndipo sizimangodalira pa libindicate, imasowanso zinthu kuchokera ku Unity, Gtk3 .. mulimonse. .

    2.    mtima anati

      Hahaha munamutcha Elva, lomwe ndi dzina la azakhali hahahahahaha. Tsopano ndadziwa kumuimbira foni akandiitana emo hahahahahahaha

      1.    elav <° Linux anati

        Hahaha mumadzipulumutsa nokha kuti muli makilomita masauzande ambiri kuchokera ku Cuba, mwana, chifukwa mwalandira ostia (kapena ndi hostia?) Kuti mupite koyipa.

        1.    mtima anati

          Ndizowonerera

  2.   mtima anati

    Kodi mukufuna nditumize? JAJAJAJAJAJA osauka ngati angalandire kalata kuchokera kwa ine JAJAJAJAJAJAJA.

    Sindinawone choncho, ndimawona anu kukhala malingaliro osangalatsa

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Malinga ndi DanRabbit anandiuza ya Arch ndikuganiza pali maphukusi .. Chifukwa chake simuyenera kulemba chilichonse nokha 😛

  3.   Erythrym anati

    Ndikuvomereza kwathunthu! Tikukhulupirira kuti zitha kuchitika, sindimakondanso kukhala ndi malo osungira anthu pakadali pano, koma pazinthu zina ndikofunikira ... Tiyeni tiwone ngati tingasinthe izi! Ngati mukuyenera kusaina china, ndiwerengereni! 😀

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Voucha !!! 😀

      1.    mtima anati

        Ndipo mumadutsa kumasulira kwanga ngati zoyipa !!!

        1.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux anati

          Osatinso chomwecho, kungoti ine (omwe mudatumizira imelo ndikumukumbutsa kuti uthenga udali wokonzeka) ndakhala ndi zovuta zingapo, ndiye chifukwa chake ndinalibe nthawi yoti ndiyang'ane ... chabwino, mwalandira: "Pepani"

  4.   Erythrym anati

    Ndangowerenga yankho lanu, elav, tiwone ngati mawa (ku Spain ndi pafupifupi m'mawa) ndingakutumizireni kumasulira kwa nkhaniyi kuti mumutumizire, chabwino?

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Uff zingakhale zabwino 😀

  5.   Nkhwangwa anati

    Pa Crunchbang ndikukumbukira ndili ndi Postler wopanda zina zopumulira (ndipo #! Ndi Debian Khola). Zomwezo ku Debian ndizokwanira kuyika repo ya Crunchbang Statler.

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      M'malo mwake, monga ndidanenera m'nkhaniyi, Postler ndiye pulogalamu yokhayo ya ElementaryOS yomwe titha kupeza ku Debian, ndipo ndayiyesa. 😀

      1.    Nkhwangwa anati

        Ah! Ndiye zabwino! 😉

  6.   Edward2 anati

    Ndikuganiza kuti ndiwe wadazi kuposa kubwerezanso (ndipo sindikutanthauza tsitsi lako)

    * Chinthu cha Marlin chimakhudzana kwambiri ndi debian ndi maphukusi ake kuposa ElementaryOS

    * ElementaryOS ndikugawana kozikidwa pa Ubuntu, OSATI NTCHITO YOPHUNZITSIRA.

    * Kodi ndiyenera kukupezanso tanthauzo la Njira Yogwirira Ntchito?

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Kuti mumve 2 zinthu:
      1- Zikuwonekeratu kuti ndikugawana, ndikuti ndi Njira Yogwirira Ntchito. Ndichizolowezi chowonera distro yonse ngati OS. Musakhale ovuta kwambiri !!!
      2- Kuti pali maphukusi ena (monga malaibulale a gtk3) omwe sanabebe mu Debian ndikumvetsetsa, koma pali ena (Unity library) omwe kulibe, komanso sadzakhala ku Debian. Ndipo ndipamene wosuta amakhala ochepa.

      1.    Edward2 anati

        CHONCHO ndi distro ndi distro, buledi mkate ndi vinyo, bwanji angaikidwe pa archlinux osati pa debian? Ndikuganiza kuti muyenera kufunsa izi pamisonkhano yamaubwino osangokhalira kutulutsa ma elementaryOS

        1.    mtima anati

          Chonde werengani kalatayi kwa EsDebian m'malo momatsegula pakamwa panu

          1.    Edward2 anati

            Sindikunena za esDebian, koma tsamba lovomerezeka la madokotala / madandaulo / malingaliro.

        2.    elav <° Linux anati

          Kodi ndikutanthauza kuti mutha kukhala ndi moyo wopanda pake ndipo sindingathe? Chabwino, zimandisenda .. 😛

          1.    Edward2 anati

            Ayi! mutha kuthamangitsa zonse zomwe mukufuna, koma yesetsani kuzichita ndi zifukwa zomveka.

            1.    elav <° Linux anati

              Ndipo simukuganiza kuti zifukwa zanga ndi zomveka? Chifukwa mudzakhala woyamba pamenepo ..


      2.    Edward2 anati

        elav, musandipangitse kuti ndiyike zinthu zoyambira za iOS pa fayilo yanga, kuti ndingokujambulani ndikuwonetsani kuti itha kuyikika muma distros ena komanso kuti ndi vuto ndi ma phukusi ku Debian osati kuti mapulogalamuwa ndi a buntus okha. Maphukusi omwe mumatchulawa ali m'malo a AUR.

        1.    elav <° Linux anati

          Mukawerenga ndemanga mwina mwawona kuti kwenikweni, a DanRabbit anandiuza kuti ndi Arch.

          1.    Edward2 anati

            Momwemonso mumandipatsa chifukwa, vuto lili ndi debian osati ndi ma elementaryOS

          2.    Nkhwangwa anati

            Tiyeni tiwone, pali mtendere.
            Maphukusiwa sali mu Arch, ndiye kuti, sali ku Pacman, koma ku AUR, zomwe zikuwonetsa kuti ndi nkhani yokhudza anthu ammudzi, osati ya distro yomwe, chifukwa chake vuto ndilofanana ndi ku Debian. Ndikuganiza elav ndikulondola, ngati atathandizidwa ayenera kukhala ndi distro yomwe, popeza alibe AUR.

            M'malingaliro mwanga, ayenera kuthandizidwa, chifukwa ndi mapulogalamu apamwamba kwambiri, koposa zonse, ndipo nthawi zonse ndimawawona, a Postler.

            Zachidziwikire, pali nthawi zonse, monga KZKG ^ Gaara akuti, nambala yoyambira, koma nthawi zonse zimakhala bwino kuonetsetsa kuti mapaketi amayesedwa mwalamulo ndikuthandizidwa.

        2.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux anati

          Ngati .tar.gz zilipo, ndi nkhani yowatsitsa ndikudzilemba nokha ... mwachiwonekere, poganiza kuti siili mu AUR, yomwe ndikukayikira 😀

  7.   Khumi ndi zitatu anati

    Vuto ndilakuti, monga momwe ndikumvera, Elementary OS imakwaniritsa mawonekedwe ake ndikumverera pakusintha nambala m'maphukusi ena ndikuwonjezera mapulogalamu ena.

    Pankhani ya kusinthidwa kwa phukusi, pali, mwachitsanzo, "Nautilus pulayimale" yotchuka (yomwe idapangitsa kutchuka kwa ntchitoyi); Siyo mutu wa gtk kapena Nautilus "Gui", koma kusinthidwa kwa nambala yake komwe kumathera pakupanganso ntchito zake ndi zinthu zake, ndikupatsa mawonekedwe atsopano (komanso ambiri abwino) ndikuphweka kwa ntchito zake. Pankhani yowonjezerapo mapulogalamu atsopano, apanga zingapo monga Dexter ndi Postler.

    Koma Shell, monga momwe ndimamvera, imagwira ntchito mosiyana, popeza siyimasintha mapulogalamu kapena kuwonjezera mapulogalamu ena, koma imakoka kulumikizana kwa ogwiritsa ntchito mapulogalamu omwe amatha kuyanjana nawo (ngati pulogalamu yake ikuloleza. ).

    Mwinamwake ndikulakwitsa (ndipo ndikanakhala woyamikira ngati mutandikonza ngati zili choncho) koma ndikuganiza kuti kukhala zinthu zosiyana, ntchito yolemekezayo siyikhala chipolopolo kapena malo apakompyuta, popeza siwindo pazenera monga, Mwachitsanzo, Chidziwitso .

    Zikomo.

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Ndinagwiritsa ntchito mawu akuti Shell monga chitsanzo. Zikuwonekeratu kuti ElementaryOS si Shell kapena siyigwira ntchito ngati Shell. Ndangonena izi kuti mutha kulingalira china chake chomwe chimagawidwa popanda kudalira.

  8.   zigawenga anati

    Mulimonsemo, ndani ayenera kukhala wothandizira osati kugawa ndi Linux Mint

    http://www.com-sl.org/comparando-linux-mint-y-elementaryos.html

    1.    elav <° Linux anati

      Sitikulankhula za chinthu chomwecho, ngakhale zingakhale.

      1.    Khumi ndi zitatu anati

        Ndikuganiza kuti ndemanga za a Burjans ndizomveka. Ngati muwonjezera malo osungira Mint pamtundu wofananira wa ubuntu ndikusintha, muli ndi Mint kale. Ndipo ngati muwonjezera zotsalira za LMDE ku Debian ndikukonzekera pang'ono, muli ndi LMDE kale (yosavuta kuchita kapena ayi, zilibe kanthu, ndikungonena kuti ndizotheka). Ndikuganiza kuti sizingakhale zovuta kuyika izi ngati "chothandizira china." Ngati timbewu tating'onoting'ono titha kusungitsa malo osungidwa ndi ma package omwe amatumizidwa kuma distros ena amakhala ndi zotsatira zofananira, kapena ndikulakwitsa?

        Pankhani ya Elementary ndikuganiza kuti sizingakhale zosiyana kwambiri.

        1.    elav <° Linux anati

          Munthu, koma ngati tikuyang'ana choncho, bwanji Ubuntu sili gulu la maphukusi omwe awonjezeredwa ku Debian? 😀

          1.    Khumi ndi zitatu anati

            Ndikuganiza kuti ndizosiyana, popeza mukudziwa bwino, sikokwanira kuwonjezera mpumulo wa Ubuntu ku Debian, kuti mupeze Ubuntu, chifukwa chomalizirachi sichimangokhala chimodzi mwazomwe zachitika pamitundu ya Debian monga choncho , koma m'ndondomeko yazinthu zingapo (kuphatikiza kuphatikiza ndi kuyesa). Ichi ndichifukwa chake ma repos a Debian samawoneka (ndipo kwenikweni ndiosagwirizana) mumitundu ya Ubuntu.
            Mutha kuwonjezera ma PPA angapo ku Debian ndi zotsatira zabwino, koma sizingatheke (ndi zotsatira zabwino) kuwonjezera mpumulo wa Ubuntu. Sizingatheke (ndi zotsatira zabwino) kuwonjezera ma repi a debian ku Ubuntu.

            Zachidziwikire kuti Canonical distro idakhazikitsidwa ndi Debian ndipo sichingakhale, popanda icho. Koma kudalira kumeneku sikugwira ntchito ngati "wothandizira."

            Pankhani ya Linux timbewu tonunkhira (ndipo mwina ndi Elemntary OS) njira yawo yozikirira pa Ubuntu ndiyosiyana, popeza samapereka malo osungira zinthu omwe amapanga distro-base, koma kuwonjezera ena, kukulitsa ndikuwongolera kuthekera ndi ntchito (koma osasintha kapena kumanganso maziko). chifukwa chake izi zitha kuonedwa kuti ndizophatikiza.

            Ngati sizinali choncho, sizikanakhala zofunikira kuti Mint ipange nthambi ngati LMDE (yosagwirizana ndi LM). Momwemonso, pazifukwa zomwezo zomwe zafotokozedwa m'ndime zapitazi, LMDE imatha kumvedwa ngati Debian "add-on" ...: kapena kodi inu, panthawi ina, simunawonjezerepo mpumulo wa LMDE kwa debian wanu popanda vuto?

            Ndikuyembekeza kuti mwatha kundifotokozera ndipo ndemanga yanga siyikumveka ngati chitetezo chosaganizira cha Ubuntu, makamaka kuyimitsidwa kwa LM, chifukwa zomwe LM yachita zikuwoneka zabwino kwa ine: zonse momwe ziliri, ndi LMDE (the Ndagwiritsa ntchito ziwiri kangapo).

            Distro iliyonse ili ndi zolinga zake ndi njira zowakwanitsira; ndipo aliyense wogwiritsa ali ndi zosowa zawo, zoyembekeza komanso mwayi wogwiritsa ntchito ndikukhutira. Kwa ine, sindimagwirizana ndi distro iliyonse yomwe ndagwiritsa ntchito, kapena sindimva kuti ndikanidwa ndi aliyense wa iwo, mwina.

            Zikomo.

            1.    elav <° Linux anati

              Ndemanga yanu ndiyomveka bwino, koma nthawi yomweyo maphukusi wamba omwe amasinthidwa kuti agwire ntchito ku LM, akulekanitsa ndi Ubuntu. Kodi yankho lomveka lingakhale lotani? Mwachitsanzo, ngati Mint asintha phukusi, onjezerani ku repo ya Ubuntu ndipo ndi zomwezo, koma kuchita izi, kusinthidwa ndi chidwi cha distro iliyonse pakugwiritsa ntchito phukusi, kumatha kutsutsana ndi m'modzi wa iwo. Sindikudziwa ngati zomwe ndimayesa kunena ndizomveka. Kuphatikiza apo, ndidayika mwachitsanzo:

              Tiyerekeze kuti LM ikufuna phukusi: gnome2-ubuntu.deb (ndi zabodza mwachitsanzo). Ndi phukusi la LM mutha kuyendetsa MATE pa LM 12. Komabe, popeza Ubuntu imagwiritsa ntchito Gnome3 ndi Unity, ndizotheka kuti phukusili likutsutsana ndi gnome2-ubuntu.deb, ndipamene zoyipa zimapangidwa, chifukwa Ubuntu sidzatero kuphatikiza m'malo anu osungira ndipo Mint amafunikira. Apa ndipomwe amayamba kupatukana ngati magawidwe.


    2.    KZKG ^ Gaara <"Linux anati

      +1
      😀

    3.    mtima anati

      Man, Mint akudziyesa akukonza nsikidzi zambiri za Winb, ndikuti Ubuntu

      1.    Perseus anati

        @Courage Tranqui ndi Ubunchu wanga, kuti muyambe kukhala ndi mavuto ndi ine kupatula elav 😉

        1.    elav <° Linux anati

          ndikuganiza izi zitha kuwerengedwa bwino kwa ogwiritsa ntchito ena ozungulira pano .. ¬¬

          1.    Perseus anati

            Hahahaha, ngati adamugwera kale.

            Pali zochitika ndi milandu, ndakhala ndikugwiritsa ntchito, (motere) ma distros otsatirawa: Mandriva, Kubuntu, Fedora, Archlinux, Ubuntu, LMDE ndi PcLInuxOS, osawerengera nthawi zomwe "ndidapita ndikubwerera kwa aliyense wa iwo". Ndagwiritsanso ntchito KDE, XFCE, Gnome ndi LXDE, (OpenBox kokha pa LivesCDs), ndipo ndakhala, ngati ndikukumbukira molondola, pafupifupi zaka zisanu (zosangalatsa komanso zosangalatsa) ndafika "Linux", ndiye ngati sindinayesebe mokwanira, ndikuganiza kuti ndatha kale kupanga mwachidule zosankha zonsezi.

            Lero, ndine wa a Ubuntusers ndipo ndikumva bwino kwambiri pakadali pano, amene akudziwa kuti distro yatsopano kapena yakale ibwereranso papepala langa m'masiku ochepa, miyezi kapena zaka. Kugawa kulikonse kuli ndi zokongola zake komanso zokhumudwitsa ndipo nditha kuyesera kunena kuti onse andisangalatsa, inde ndili ndi zomwe ndimakonda, Arch, Ubuntu ndi Fedora, komanso potengera Unity, Gnome2 ndi KDE4 "madera", momwemonso ;-) .

            Mwini, chikhazikitso chomwe nthawi zina timachisonyeza ndi mutu wa "X" ndichifukwa chakusowa kwakukulu komwe anthu amafunika kumva kuti ndife amtundu wina kapena gulu lina, fuko, ndi zina zambiri. Chifukwa chake ndizomveka kuwonetsa mtima womwe nthawi zina umadalira kutengeka kwambiri.

            Zikomo.

          2.    Khumi ndi zitatu anati

            @Perseus. Ndikugwirizana nanu panjira yakuwona kusiyanasiyana kwa ma distros (ngati mwayi wosankha, podziwa kuti aliyense ali ndi "zokongola ndi zokhumudwitsa").

            (Mwa njira, ndapezanso njira yolemekeza yofotokozera malingaliro anu yoyenera)

            zonse

          3.    Perseus anati

            @ Hahaha wa khumi ndi atatu, inali mphindi yanga 5 yachisomo pantchito 😛

  9.   Christopher anati

    Lingaliro labwino kwambiri, la metadistros kwa ine yankho labwino kwambiri lomwe lingachitike, ingowonjezerani zosungira zingapo ndipo ndi zomwezo.

  10.   chithu anati

    Ndikuvomereza kuti itha kukhala malo amodzi okhaokha omwe tingagwiritse ntchito mu distro iliyonse

  11.   gmo.g anati

    mbali yanga, ndagwiritsa ntchito ma linux distros onse omwe ndamva, kufunafuna omwe amandiyenerera ndikundigwirira ntchito. Vuto langa lalikulu lokhala ndi linux nthawi zonse lakhala likuyendetsa makanema (makamaka nvidia) mukamagwiritsa ntchito skrini imodzi, pomwe ndimafunikira kusintha kernel, muyenera kulembanso ndikusintha fucking xorg ndipo zomwe zimafuna nthawi yomwe ndili nayo kale ayi.
    Koma nditazindikira kuti eOS distro idakonzeka ndidayiyika pomwepo ndipo zinali zodabwitsa kuti ndidakonza zowonera zitatu zomwe ndimagwiritsa ntchito polowa muzithunzi zosasintha ndikuyika phukusi lina lililonse. Ndimayesa w8 ndipo mukuganiza bwanji, wea anali ndi kachilombo.

    Ndadzipeza ndili ndi linux chifukwa cha distro yomwe ndi OS, ngakhale itakhala yochokera ku Ubuntu, maphukusi ake atha kuyikidwa m'ma distros ena kuti awoneke ngati ElementaryOS, koma sizofanana ndipo ndimanena izi kutengera zaka zogwiritsa ntchito linux kuyambira pomwe Ma distros oyamba omwe ndimagwiritsa ntchito, omwe anali Mandrake ndipo pambuyo pake adakhala Mandriva, Red-Hat - Fedora, Devian - Ubuntu - Kubuntu ndi onse ... buntus, Mint ambiri omwe alipo, ena monga Backtrack - Kali, ndi ena ambiri. Pali chimodzi chomwe sichinathe ndipo chinali lingaliro labwino kulimbikitsa iwo omwe amangodziwa MS kudziko la Linux ndipo anali Lindows, sangapambane zachisoni, ndikuwombera MS.

  12.   [Ameni] anati

    Posachedwapa ndayika makinawa pa laputopu ndipo china chake chimandichititsa chidwi kwambiri, ndikagwiritsa ntchito cholumikizira ndi chojambuliracho dongosololi limagwira ntchito bwino komanso molondola koma ndikalichotsa pa charger dongosololi limachedwetsa ndikutaya madzi onse. Kodi wina angandithandize?