Kune avo vasingade kuverenga zvakawanda: Ingoverenga iyi komendi kubva Clem akasara kubva rinenge gore rapfuura kuti nei paingova nemaviri chete matraketi emhando mushanduro 2, zvichienzaniswa ne13 mushanduro 9.
Ini ndichakumbira ruregerero pamberi pekunyomba .. ndinofanira kupa vanogadzira Gnome imwe kurova kwakaderera. GTK3 haisi API yakavimbika. Pamwe inofanira kunzi isingazivikanwe. GTK3.4 yakauya neGnome3.4, uye yanga isingaenderane nematimu epfuura eGTK3. Izvi zvinoreva kuti zvese zvinoshandiswa zveGTK3 zvaitaridzika kunge zvakashata, kwete chete nemitambo yese yeGTK2 isingatsigire GTK3 (dzinenge dzese), asiwo vashoma vanozviita. Tichifunga izvi isu tanga tine sarudzo nhatu:
1) Govera desktop ine kusanganisa kushoma uye mafomu anotaridzika akasiyana, zvichibva paAPI yavanoshandisa (izvo zvisingatenderwe zvachose)
2) Bvisa zvese zvinoshandiswa zveGTK3 kubva kuMint uye wozvitsiva neshanduro dzekare muGTK2 kana GTK2 kana QT zvinoshandiswa (izvi zvinosanganisira maGnome application, asiwo Gdebi, Streaming uye nevamwe vamwe)
3) Fuck kunge kupenga, bvisa madingindira ese, uye pedza maawa asingaverengeke uchipa Mint-X uye Mint-Z rutsigiro rwakakodzera muGTK "3.4", kunyangwe ichizotsemuka zvakare muna 3,6 ...Takaenda kusarudzo 3 "nguva ino." Ndinovimba uyu muenzaniso mudiki wakaringana kugutsa wechitatu bato vagadziri kuti vasashandise GTK3. Hapana zvinyorwa zvekuburitsa kana zvinyorwa zvinotsanangura kudzoreredza kana maitiro ekugadzirisa dambudziko zvawanikwa.Chokwadi ini ndinonzwa kuti GTK 3.4 yakagadzirirwa Gnome 3.4, kuti haina basa kana ikapwanya zvinhu uye kuti isu hatifanire ishandise kunze kweGnome.
Zvino kune avo vanoda kuverenga zvakawanda:
Mazuva mashoma apfuura, IgnorantGuru (SpaceFM mushambadzi, PCManFM pane steroids) yakatumira yakanakisa maviri-chikamu chinyorwa pane akati wandei mapurojekiti ari munzira isiriyo, akati wandei ayo Red Hat ari kumashure. Muchikamu chekutanga inotaura nezve nyaya dzeGTK. Sekureva kwake, zvese zviri zviviri zvinetso zvemukati nekuvandudzwa kweGTK uye kumanikidzwa kuenderana kwevagadziri kunomiririra dambudziko kune avo vanogadzira software yakagadzikana kunze kweGNOME. Pamusoro pezvakataurwa naClem, Glade vhezheni 3.8 ndiyo yekupedzisira kutsigira GTK2, uye izvo paDebian ivo havana kana hanya nekuita iyo yenhoroondo vhezheni (iyo ichazobudira Wheezy iri vhezheni 3.12)
IgnorantGuru vakasangana nematambudziko aya muGNOME bugzilla naBenjamin Otte (iye oga wenguva yakazara mushambadzi weGTK) ane mhinduro dzemhando yepamusoro iyo GTK isingashambi mukati mevamwe vanogadzira, vachifara kushandisa nguva yavo vachiona kuenderana netumisoro tusingawanzo shandiswa, uye vanyori vemusoro wenyaya vakabatanidzwa mukusimudzira GTK inobvuma kuti zvirinani kugadzirisa madingindira pane kuchengetedza chinzvimbo, uye kuti mushure mezvisarudzo izvi hapana nguva yekuenderana kwetimu. Emmanuele Bassi anozadzisa iyo Adwaita (iyo yepamutemo yeGNOME theme) inoshandura shanduko yega yega muGTK, uye iyo GTK inochinja kana vanyori vezvinyorwa zveGNOME uye zveWindows neMacOS vachikumbira chinhu chitsva chinodiwa.
Asi pfungwa iyi inouya kubva kare kare, pavakange vachiri kufunga nezvekuti GNOME 3 yaizove sei.Pfungwa iyi yakazvarwa nekudzokera kuGNOME brand, ine ruzivo rwevashandisi rwakasiyana neWindows (menyu bar pazasi) uye Apple (iyo menyu bar pamusoro), uye mazano eapplet uye ekuwedzera vakatyisidzira pfungwa iyoyo. Kana isingakwanise kugadziriswa, haigadziriswe. Kana madudu anosvika achikumbira kudzorera chakadai, vanoavhara netaki yeWONTFIX. Izvi zvinotoenderera mberi. Makore maviri apfuura William Jon McCann akataura bhagi mukufambisa kukumbira kuti vasashandise mifananidzo munzvimbo yekuzivisa yeGNOME 3 sezvo vaizobvisa rutsigiro. Muchengeti paakachema-chema kuti izvi zvinogona kukuvadza vashandisi veXFCE, McCann akapindura, "Ndinofunga uchafanirwa kusarudza kana iri yeGNOME, Ubuntu, kana XFCE, uye handizive kuti chii kana chinoita. XFCE, ndine hurombo. »
Chikamu chechipiri Chinyorwa ichi chinotaura nezve udisks, gvfs, udev uye systemd. Nekusvika kweudisks2, rairo yekuraira yakashandurwa, ichityora kuenderana neiyo software uye zvinyorwa zvinoenderana nemadhisiki. Munyori waro David Zeuthen (Red Hat mushandi) akawedzera muzvinyorwa "Chirongwa ichi hachina kuitirwa kushandiswa nezvinyorwa kana zvimwe zvirongwa - sarudzo nemirairo zvinogona munzira dzisingawirirane mune ramangwana kunyangwe mukuburitswa kwekuchengetedza." Hon Jen Yee, musiki wePCManFM inodemba kusashanda kwemudiki, polkit, consolekit, uye mafambiro avari kuita kubva kufilosofi yeKISS. Ose PCManFM neThunar vanovimba neiyo gvfs API, iyo zvinoenderana naIgnorantGuru isina kuchengetedzwa zvakanaka uye isina kugadzikana. Nezve udev, vashoma vashanduri veGentoo munguva pfupi yapfuura ivo vakaita forogo (eudev) nekuti udev yainyanyo nyudzwa ne systemd, ichityora kuenderana nemaitiro apfuura. Linus anga atove achirova vanochengeta nekuti havadi kugamuchira zvimwe zvimedu zvakatumirwa kugadzirisa zvimwe zvikanganiso.
Uye nezve systemd (iyo yakarongedzwa sekutendeseka kweGNOME), pane tsananguro iri nani mupositi pane evhangeri ine hukasha izvo zviri kugadzirwa nazvo, izvo zviri kutsigirwa nemusiki waro, Lennard Poettering.
Iyi posvo yaidaidzwa kunzi "A Conspiracy Theory muLinux", sekudanwa kwechinyorwa chekutanga cheIgnorantGuru. Nekudaro, Perseus akandiudza kuti uku hakusi kurangana asi huipi, uyezve chinyorwa ichi chakanyanya Anti-Red Hat kupfuura zvandiri kukunyorera. Ichokwadi ndechekuti tizvibvunze isu, sei chirongwa chakazvimiririra sisitimu Handireve chete kuti ndinoreva kuzvimiririra kubva kuRed Hat, asi kubva kuna Lennart iye (yatove kutorwa seimwe inopokana naye kuve iye musiki)
Iyo hombe runyorwa rwezvinyorwa:
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2038
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/a-linux-conspiracy-theory
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/a-linux-conspiracy-theory/2
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638478
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687752
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-April/msg00314.html
https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/3685
http://udisks.freedesktop.org/docs/1.91.0/udisksctl.1.html
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1210.0/01131.html
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1210.0/01889.html
http://lwn.net/Articles/529314/
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/132gle/eli5_the_systemd_vs_initupstart_controversy/
http://sporkbox.us/blog/?r=page/108
Yakanaka posvo, mumablog akawanda sarudzo dzese dzezvinyorwa dzinoitwa nehunhu dzinorwiswa uye kupara mhosva mahara, pasina kana kuzora zvishoma uye kutsvaga rumwe ruzivo nezvekuti nei sarudzo idzi dzichiitwa. Kana iwe sekambani yakakomba uchifanira kuvimbisa mhando yechigadzirwa chaunogadzira, hapana nzira yaunogona kuvimba nezvido zvemugadziri uyo asingatarise kuvandudza kwako kana mipiro kune akati pasuru, iyo nguva uye nguva dzakatarwa iwe sekambani vatengi, kana chii chakaipisisa, zvinoenderana nesarudzo dzakaitwa nemakwikwi ako (tsvuku ngowani). Mushure mezvose, software yese inovandudzwa neCanonical inobvumidzwa pasi pemarezinesi emahara, kune uye kumunhu wega wega kana vachinge vafunga kuishandisa kana kwete.
Ini ndaisa chirevo changu ndisati ndaverenga chako. Uye kunyangwe ini ndisiri mukomana anofarira zveCanonical, ndinonyatsonzwisisa kuti chirevo "dhongi rakange risina hasha, zvimiti zvakamugadzika" kamuti.
Ini ndaizoritumidza zvakanyanya kana zvishoma.
Ubuntu hwakavharwa here? Tsvaga kuti chii chinonzi Gnome! »
Chinyorwa chinonakidza.
Ufff ... ndatenda runako ndakachinjira ku KDE inoshandisa QT, saka ndinogara kure nehuipi hwese hweGnome / GTK haha
-Iyi inotevera pfungwa yemunhu uye ndinokumbira ruregerero pamberi apo kana paine munhu anogumburwa-
Ichokwadi ndechekuti Gnome KUNAI inoita kunge inonyadzisa kune iyo Linux universe, ichimanikidza mushandisi uyo akabva kuGnome 2 shanduko kamwe kamwe uye kudzidziswazve kwenzira iyo inopindirana neiyo desktop interface.
Pamusoro pekusakwanisa kuchinja chitarisiko nekuti ivo maGnome vanamati vanotenda kuti yavo yakazara batai tema nemifananidzo yavo yechinyakare yakabva kuGnome 2 inoita mubatanidzwa wakakwana ...
Neraki kune dzimwe nzira muLinux, rombo rakanaka kuti kune mapurojekiti akaita seKDE.
Iwe zvakare une imwe nzira yekubatana.
Huya zvino…
Uye Fluxbox, Openbox, LXDE, XFCE, Inotyisa, JMW, nezvimwe
Iwe murume, kana iwe uri kushandisa gnome shell, ini handifunge kuti iri nyore openbox, flubxbox nezvimwe, ndiyo imwe nzira yeiyo mushandisi chiitiko iwe chauri kutsvaga, icho chandinofunga chakakwana. Zvakare vhiki rino ndakanyadziswa nevatariri vemahwindo, ndichiona kuti nvidia yangu ndakanga ndisingakwanise kunyatsoita kubvaruka kweupenzi kwemahandara aya.
Uye zvakare Sinamoni, MATE, Razor QT uye E17. Tine rombo rakanaka kuti kune nharaunda zhinji kwazvo dzekushandisa !!
Chokwadi ndechekuti pakutanga ini ndaive nemamwe matambudziko neudisk2 (kunyanya neThunar) asi zvishoma nezvishoma zvaive zvakagadziriswa uye ne systemd parizvino handina kana matambudziko.
Ini ndine yazvino vhezheni yeGTK3, asi parizvino handina matambudziko nenyaya, kunyanya nekuti vazhinji vacho vanoshandisa GTK2 (senge Thunar, LXPanelX, Transmission, nezvimwewo) uye vamwe vane QT4 (uye imwe iine QT3 inova iyo Inotaridzika kunge yakaipa, asi ini handina basa)
Kwete, kana pakupedzisira tichazofanira kubvumirana neIcaza ...
Ini, sekutaura kwandakaita kwemakore mazhinji, ndinogara neFluxbox yangu uye ndakadzikama.
Ini ndinotenda nemoyo wese kuti kana ubuntu munguva pfupi iri kutevera, kubatana kuchapfuura kuenda ku qt, gtk3 ichave nenguva yakaoma kwazvo, mafomu akakosha akatotumirwa zvakadaro, gimp, libreoffice, chrome, firefox, blender….
Ndinobvumirana; Ini ndinofunga nei Shuttleworth aigara achifarira Qt kupfuura GTK uye nei Ubuntu akasarudza iyo nzira nhasi inowanikwa mune imwecheteyo chinyorwa. Ipapo Canonical ichaita sarudzo dzisingagutse munhu wese; asi chidhiraivho chine hwaro hwakajeka.
Zvakanaka ndosaka zvakagara zvakanaka kuti uone mativi maviri emari ...
Nguva nenguva inoenda kutaura. Canonical yakaona izvi kare tisati tave; asi zvirokwazvo, kubvira ipapo yakapihwa mhosva, kusanganisira kubva kuRed Hat uyo ave nenguva achitenda kuti GNOME ndeyavo uye anoita zvavanoda, pasina nhungamiro.
Kana izvi zvikaenderera, GNOME ine magumo asingadzivisike; pachave nemaforogo, asi kwete ese ekuchengetedza iyo yekare GNOME 2, asi kusevha GNOME kubva kuhutu hwevakagadziri vayo.
MMM…. Ini ndatoverenga ichi chinyorwa pane esdebian
Lennard iyo inotsigira nekuti systemd ndicho chishamiso chisina bvudzi, uye ichirwisa chero munhu anoitsoropodza kusvika pakufa, ini ndakaverenga nhaurwa pane dhivhosi tsamba yekutumira nguva yapfuura uye paive nepfuti uye kubaya.
heino unayo. Lennard haatore chikamu asi anoita John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/11/threads.html#00328
Fuck, uye chero kwandinowana Matthias Klumpp .. mukomana ari kuseri kwaTanglu 😛
Zvichida vagadziri vacho vane nguva yakaipa kwazvo neGnome, zvisinei, semushandisi ndinonzwa kugutsikana nazvo (kwete ini chete, baba vangu vanoishandisa uye vanoiwana yakanakisa), saka ndinogona kungokorokotedza vanhu vese uyo anoenda kure kure kugadzira nekuchengetedza inoyevedza desktop desktop.
Kutenda nenhau, ndinovimba zvinhu zvichagadziriswa uye 2013 rave riri gore rakanakisa reLinux mune zvese.
Chinyorwa chakanaka, chimwe chinhu chakaomarara kune vedu vedu vasina kudzika zvakanyanya muzivo yekusimudzira linux nehunhu hwayo. Saka ini ndaifanira kuverenga chinyorwa uye chekutanga kutaura kaviri kuti ndinzwisise kwaienda nemusoro wenyaya.
Chiitiko changu neLinux chakasiyana kwazvo nevanhu vazhinji. Ini ndinoshandisa iyo kugadzirisa mavhidhiyo, mifananidzo, webhu kuvandudza uye iko kujairika kushandiswa kwevamwe vese tarisa facebook, twitter nezvimwe. KOMITI yangu ine makore manomwe ekuberekwa ine hunyanzvi ine mashandiro mashandiro, pandakatanga kushandisa Ubuntu komputa yakashanda zvakanaka kwazvo kusvikira vamanikidza Kubatana. Saka Ubuntu yaida zvinhu zviviri zvandinoda, nharaunda yakajeka kuitira kuti zviwanikwa zvese zviitwe nebasa rangu uye hazvifanirwe kunge zvichimomesa mwedzi yese mitanhatu kana gore rega nekuti sisitimu yacho haishande sezvainofanirwa kuita. shanda mushure mekuvandudza. Shanduko yangu kuArchLinux ndiyo yaive sarudzo yechisikigo asi kana ndichiyedza gnome7 nehombodo yayo ndinogona zvakare kutaura kuti kunyangwe iine degree rekugadzirisa zvakanyanya kupfuura kubatana, haina kuzadzikiswa zvirinani uye inoshandisa yakawanda sosi zviwanikwa. Mhedziso yangu.
Vashandisi veLinux vanewo mhosva yekuda nekunyepedzera kuti makomputa ePEDORROS "turion, AMD Sempron, ATOM" inoshandawo seMAC kana Windows 1 inoita neIntel i8. iko kukanganisa kwakarongedzwa zvisina kukwana compiz uye iyo interface, kwete yedu yakasanganiswa vhidhiyo kadhi
2.- Usashandise mari kutsigira mapurojekiti nema distros, ichokwadi kuti vazhinji havana kubhadhara mawindo avanoshandisa nezvirongwa zvavanoshandisa mumahwindo, asi chatinofanira kunzwisisa ndechekuti vanhu kana masangano anotsigira iwo mapurojekiti manzwi chete achanzwikwa. Zvinoseka kuti kambani inoti ichavhura chirongwa chakavakirwa pa linux uye otomatiki madhiraivha anotsigira Hardware anobuda.
3.- Makambani akaita seRed Hat neCanonical haawirirani nekuti vese vanoda kukwezva vatengi nekuti musika wavo uri mudiki zvekuti kubatsirwa kweumwe kunokuvadza kune kumwe. "Musika chaiwo ndiSERVER", saka marabhoritari acho idesktop uko zvinoenderana nechinyorwa chino RedHat neUbuntu vanotarisana negnome-gtk asi openSuse haina mhosva zvakanyanya mukubata kweKDE uye nekushandisa kusasarura kweMono.
4.- Chinhu chakakosha mafaera «mapikicha, mimhanzi, zvinyorwa, mavhidhiyo
Ndinganzwa kushushikana kana ndikarasikirwa neOpenBox desktop yangu iyo yakandibhadharira mari yakawanda kuti ndigadzirise asi ndinobvumawo kuti handisi kugona kugadzirisa nekuti kumisikidzwa kwebhokisi rakavhurwa manjaro palaptop yemuzukuru wangu kwakandisiya ndichigutsikana zvakanyanya kunyangwe archbang achishoropodza manjaro menyu. openbox.
Kwazisai uye ndine urombo nehurukuro.
ngowani tsvuku, ngowani tsvuku ...